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    Today's Topics:

      1) MP3's of To Live Forever and Cover My Eyes
     by MutantFOOT@aol.com
      2) Jens
     by Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
      3) Re: CD Speeds
     by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
      4) Re: Brethren
     by AnalogGal@aol.com
      5) Re: Weather and why im peeved
     by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
      6) Songs For Newbies...
     by "Jono Sinclair" <sherrif@geocities.com>
      7) Speed 3: Bafu's Revenge
     by "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
      8) Re: Run for your lives!
     by "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net>
      9) Re: Jens
     by Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com>
     10) knitting factory
     by Bens1Grrl@aol.com
     11) Re: knitting factory
     by Coldfire the Gallery Mistress <coldfire@pacbell.net>
     12) Re: knitting factory
     by Bens1Grrl@aol.com
     13) Re: MP3's of To Live Forever and Cover My Eyes
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     14) New Eloy
     by Mc-Merc <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com>
     15) Here is GE
     by Kyle McCabe <kmccabe@wavetech.net>
     16) Re: Here is GE
     by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
     17) Re: Here is GE
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>

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    Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:20:23 EST
    From: MutantFOOT@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: MP3's of To Live Forever and Cover My Eyes
    Message-ID: <9a8d6121.36913ea7@aol.com>

    Hey-

    I was just wondering if anyone has high quality MP3's of Cover MY Eyes or To
    Live Forever, or Where are you Now. I have a poor quality of To Live Forever,
    but I need a better version, so if anyone has them or knows where to find
    them, please let me know- Thanks-

    Mike

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    Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 09:26:47 +1100
    From: Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Jens
    Message-ID: <36914027.4B04241C@ozemail.com.au>

    Hi Jens,
           Yes I know I am a dumb fuck, I should
    send this to your private mailing address, but
    everytime I type your name in the 'to' box the
    forces of nature change the address to
    'ytsejam@ax.com'.......

    Anyway my toilet is blocked and I am having trouble
    finding a plumber, would you be able to use your
    profound influence on world events and send a plumber
    round to my place please ?

    <phone number and street address surpressed>

    GaZ

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    Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:42:56 -0800
    From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Re: CD Speeds
    Message-ID: <199901042242.OAA05849@gms.gmsnet.com>

    Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Uroborosss@aol.com thus begged:
    >
    >A compact disc can sound faster than normal, but it's because of the listener,
    >not the technology. If a piece of music sounds faster right after you wake up,
    >it's because of the speed of your body, not the cd, and I'm not kidding. I've
    >noticed this for years. Once I tried to tape a song in the morning with a tape
    >recorder, to PROVE to people that music is faster in the morning. I think I
    >was eight years old. But when I played the tape back later in the day I found
    >that the song had magically slowed back down to normal speed, and boy did that
    >piss me off. That was when I realized that the source of the changing pace was
    >not the song itself, but my body/mind.

    But see, here you're talking about ANALOG casette, which means that the speed
    you recorded at does not necessarily equate the speed which you playback at.

    Hell, if the tape player is nice and cool in the morning, it might play the
    tape faster than in the afternoon because the tape player might be heated up
    or the tape medium could be stretched out, etc, etc...

    -The Doc

    -- 
    > drkhoe@gmsnet.com
    > http://progmetal.gmsnet.com
    > Windows will rule the world... and one day, you'll have to reboot the entire
    > thing cause it'll crash.
    

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    Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 18:16:02 EST From: AnalogGal@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Brethren Message-ID: <82702262.36914bb2@aol.com>

    Paul stated: <>

    Yeah, I'm a New Yawka, tough guy. You got a problem with that? No? Good. Now, shut up and give me your wallet! :)

    ....TAXI!!

    "It's raining, raining on the streets of New York City." (And it really was raining when DT played Irving Plaza last week!!) Christina NP: Finger Eleven "Tip"

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    Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 20:30:27 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Weather and why im peeved Message-ID: <002001be3842$a0cdee40$9322ead0@eduardo>

    >notes were way off. i tuned pretty high ( d,a,d,g,b,e ( the tuning for the >song im working on ) )...and i struck one note and wham. the E string snapped

    well it wasn't exactly an E string now was it? unles you popped the 6th string... which was tuned normally in which case the fact that the guitar was tuned higher was superfluous. please clear up this suspenseful confusion. moo.

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    Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:44:19 +1100 From: "Jono Sinclair" <sherrif@geocities.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Songs For Newbies... Message-ID: <01be3844$87a7b840$86e13ecb@iansincl>

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    Howdy All. Just curious as to people's opinions on which are the best DT songs to = play to those who have never heard them. My best mate is a guitar teacher, so it was an easy choice (J.P's killer = solo on O.I.A.Livetime), but for most people, they seem to be put off a = little by the complexity and sound of DT. =20

    I am fully aware that the strength of DT is their ALBUMS, not songs, but = time doesn't always allow for this, so what do you guys think is their best work. Personally, I find 9 out of 10 people (including = myself) absolutely love Space Dye Vest, with Pull Me Under and Lie close = behind. No surprise they were all written by the strongest songwriter = in the band. (THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH KEVIN VS = DEREK!!!!- JUST THAT I'M PRAISING KEVIN FOR WHICH HE DESERVES)

    So please let me know which songs you think are the most likely to grab = people's attention to this wonderful music. I host a radio show here in = Melbourne, and so far have only played You Not Me and Caught In A Web on = air- what response I get here will probably determine what I play from = now on. =20

    Many Thanks,

    Jono Sinclair=20 Melbourne Australia

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    <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Howdy All.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Just curious as to people's opinions = on which=20 are the best DT songs to play to those who have never heard = them.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>My best mate is a guitar teacher, so = it was an=20 easy choice (J.P's killer solo on O.I.A.Livetime), but for most people, = they=20 seem to be put off a little by the complexity and sound of DT.&nbsp;=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I am fully aware that the strength = of DT is=20 their ALBUMS, not songs, but time doesn't always allow for this, so what = do you=20 guys think</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>is their best work.&nbsp; = Personally, I find 9=20 out of 10 people (including myself) absolutely love Space Dye Vest, with = Pull Me=20 Under and Lie close behind.&nbsp; No surprise they were all written by = the=20 strongest songwriter in the band.&nbsp;&nbsp; (THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY = NOTHING TO DO=20 WITH KEVIN VS DEREK!!!!- JUST THAT I'M PRAISING KEVIN FOR WHICH HE=20 DESERVES)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>So please let me know which songs = you think are=20 the most likely to grab people's attention to this wonderful = music.&nbsp; I host=20 a radio show here in Melbourne, and so far have only played You Not Me = and=20 Caught In A Web on air- what response I get here will probably determine = what I=20 play from now on.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Many Thanks,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Jono Sinclair </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Melbourne Australia</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>

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    Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:53:18 -0500 From: "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Speed 3: Bafu's Revenge Message-ID: <19990105005331.DMCF18419@239157822worldnet.att.net>

    Hey all, >If a piece of music sounds faster right after you wake up, >it's because of the speed of your body, not the cd, and >I'm not kidding.

    To exemplify this, try playing any instrument when you're inebriated and I guarantee you'll think you're ten times faster. I've taped myself playing what I thought was the coolest shit when I was hosed only to return ten hours and a hangover later and find I was for all intents and purposes mimicking Justin Hayward solos. On the Birch Hill show: >the patrons were not aware that they would have to stand >out in the cold for 45 mins. then wait over three hours for >them to come out.

    And still people wonder where those nicknames for the Birch Hell come from. :P Take it from someone who has seen one too many shows at that club, if you think something was handled poorly, it was the club's fault and DT couldn't have helped it. Mike Kizer wrote: >(and we won't piss off the list admin by endlessly debating >things like... who sells that great 8 string guitar,

    I never did get an answer for that... And I'll still post that off-topic stuff... :)

    Stodgers

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    Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 18:45:21 -0600 From: "Geoffrey Simmons" <radharc@aculink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Run for your lives! Message-ID: <199901050209.TAA13890@ganymede.aculink.net>

    Christian you are absolutely right. My exposure to that dangerous laser caused me to shrink to a mere 5' 4", and get an unpleasant metallic taste in my mouth whenever I hear any top 40 music.

    -Geoffrey

    "...we exist in a world where the fear of illusion is real..."

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    Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 21:29:45 -0500 From: Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Jens Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990104212945.0074ad18@popserver.panix.com>

    On 14:58 1/4/99 -0800, you wrote:

    > Anyway my toilet is blocked and I am having trouble > finding a plumber, would you be able to use your > profound influence on world events and send a plumber > round to my place please ? > <phone number and street address surpressed>

    OK, there. I've used what profound influence I have left, the plumber should be arriving shortly, although Australia is a bit far for this trick to work accurately. But i know for _sure_, somewhere in Australia, someone is going to get visited by a plumber, sometime very soon. HTH

    --- Jens. (offline) <jens@panix.com> (http://www.panix.com/~jens/)

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    Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:40:29 EST From: Bens1Grrl@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: knitting factory Message-ID: <e5be4d87.36917b9d@aol.com>

    someone mentioned "Liquid Tapedeck"...LOL .....and also the Knitting Factory in NYC....does anyone know the PH # to that place? i'd like to call about other upcoming shows...

    thanks so much : )

    nicole

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    Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:56:18 -0800 From: Coldfire the Gallery Mistress <coldfire@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: knitting factory Message-ID: <36917F51.6F04@pacbell.net>

    Bens1Grrl@aol.com wrote: > > someone mentioned "Liquid Tapedeck"...LOL .....and also the Knitting Factory > in NYC....does anyone know the PH # to that place? i'd like to call about > other upcoming shows... > > thanks so much : ) > > nicole

    Hi Nicole.

    Um the Phone # and info was in my post, but I'll post it again.

    "TUESDAY, JANUARY 5 When the next generation asks "Whatever happened to Michael "Soybomb" Portnoy?" the answer will probably involve some outrageous lie about his band, Liquid Tapedeck -- who mix hard rock with irresistibly stupid social commentary. They're hard to hate. Knitting Factory, 74 Leonard St., (212) 219-3055. 9 p.m. $6."

    --

    Coldfire GalleryMistress@dreamt.org ICQ: 4656934 http://www.dreamt.org/coldfire The Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List galleryofshadows@onelist.com Gallery of Shadows http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows/

    "The way you come to me is such a mystery, I just reach out and connect" - Mystery - Shadow Gallery

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    Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:52:54 EST From: Bens1Grrl@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: knitting factory Message-ID: <a899e95d.36918c96@aol.com>

    my bad. i deleted it before i realized i needed the info.

    nicole

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    Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:35:01 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: MP3's of To Live Forever and Cover My Eyes Message-ID: <001801bd1993$6d156ed0$500d84d0@korgx3>

    >I was just wondering if anyone has high quality MP3's of Cover MY Eyes or >Live Forever, or Where are you Now. I have a poor quality of To Live

    I'm putting Cover My Eyes (from the Xmas CD, live) and To Live Forever (Lie single, studio) up for all pronto. :) Enjoy, just follow my links, they always um. link or something. Fuckin' Toucan Sam said it would work. Damn rehab.

    http://www.safelink.net/washburn/Dream_Theater_To_Live_Forever.mp3 http://www.safelink.net/washburn/Dream_Theater_Cover_My_Eyes.mp3

    Get 'em while they're hot as I won't leave them up for long. Perhaps someone can transfer them to a perm. location laterz. Enjoy yer asses off!

    As far as Where Are You Now, jus' be patient for a good one comin' soon, hopefully. :) BTW, I'm uploading these now. I'm assuming they'll be done by the time this gets posted, but they may not, so all you ackers be patient. I'm off to watch a pikchur schoe or something. -- KorgX3. Yes, I know I'm cool. :P

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    Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:24:57 -0800 (PST) From: Mc-Merc <b.pulgar@rocketmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: New Eloy Message-ID: <19990105052457.1209.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com>

    Hey dudes! I bought Eloy's new album called 'Ocean II-The Answer' and would like to tell you about it. But before I continue, I must say that it's not metal. Instead it's symphonic rock, so if you're not interested, skip this post.

    I'm really excited about this album because Eloy is one of my favourite bands and they're quite underrated. They're very symphonic and have always sounded like a 'heavier' Pink Floyd. Guitarrist, vocalist and main composer, Frank Bornemann, the only member remaining from the original Eloy, is the soul of this German band, and he's kept it together all these years, he's seen many incarnations of this band, and as a result, Eloy has put out many (excellent) albums, first they were kind of spacey, psychodelic you could say, and then they turned a bith heavier but with symphonic layers of keyboards all around. This new album, 'Oceans II-The Answer', is like something I've never heard before from Eloy: it's like all their albums put together in one wonderful masterpiece. It's got everything that Eloy stands for: layers of spacey and textured keyboards by Michael Gerlach, excellent and tight drumming from Bodo Schopf (ex-Michael Schenker Group), they've got one of the best bass players (IMO) in Klaus Peter Matziol and Frank Bornemann is simply, a true musician. It's not like they all shred or anything. Their music is well written, has a lot of melody (incredible melodies on this CD) and it just creates ambience from the start, with the slow build up of 'Between Future and Past', just keyboards and guitar, to the grand finale 'The Answer', with full choir. 'Reflections from the Spheres Beyond', 'Ro Setau', 'Paralysed Civilization' and 'Awakening of Consciousness' are no doubt the best songs on this record (um, I should've written all songs for that matter!), with Klaus Peter Matziol playing bass with such a groove and his sound is so thick... he's a living proof that you don't have to shred to kick serious ass, and a dense wall synthesizers everywhere, you know, REAL sounding keyboards. Production is excellent throughout the album. Frank Bornemann sings with a bit of an accent (not much), so this can annoy some of you, but it's fine with me. People who are interested in old Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Camel, King Crimson, should definitely check this incredibly good and talented band, and specially, this album. Few would be disappointed. I would be more than happy to make mp3's of these (long) songs and pass them over to you if you're interested. Just e-mail me.

    Regards: Bernardo

    NP: Eloy 'Oceans II-The Answer'

    _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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    Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 23:47:56 -0600 From: Kyle McCabe <kmccabe@wavetech.net> To: Ytsejammers <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Here is GE Message-ID: <3691A78C.45BA2343@wavetech.net>

    check this out:

    http://www.media-awareness.ca/eng/issues/mediaown/general.htm

    Thats what GE owns...

    -Taur

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    Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:44:43 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Here is GE Message-ID: <199901050644.WAA11354@gms.gmsnet.com>

    Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Kyle McCabe thus begged: > >check this out: > >http://www.media-awareness.ca/eng/issues/mediaown/general.htm > >Thats what GE owns... > >-Taur

    What does this have to do with Dream Theater? Did you break something in your head? Or did you feel the irresistable urge to stroke your keyboard and fire off a post to ytsejam cause you felt you have contributed nil in the last year alone... so you made a new years resolution?

    -The Doc

    -- > drkhoe@gmsnet.com > http://progmetal.gmsnet.com > Windows will rule the world... and one day, you'll have to reboot the entire > thing cause it'll crash.

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    Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 02:05:56 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Here is GE Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990105020243.2945A-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    Before the final cut was made and his intestines were pulled free from his body, releasing the last bit of blood from his system, Dr. Mosh gasped forth:

    > >http://www.media-awareness.ca/eng/issues/mediaown/general.htm > > > >Thats what GE owns... > > > >-Taur > > > What does this have to do with Dream Theater? Did you break something in > your head? Or did you feel the irresistable urge to stroke your keyboard and > fire off a post to ytsejam cause you felt you have contributed nil in the last > year alone... so you made a new years resolution? > > -The Doc

    He posted that because we progressed from our perfect pitch discussion to musical intervals, which brought along the "NBC" gong which just happens to be a major sixth. Then I wrote in saying that the reason those notes are played for NBC is because the owners of NBC were the General Electric Company, and hence the "GEC" gongs. So he wrote with this info. Don't you read these posts?

    ------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu http://oz.plymouth.edu/~a_couter/ ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------- "In the New Year, hold your right hand out always in friendship, but never in want." -- Irish toast -------------------------------------------

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