YTSEJAM Digest 4967
Today's Topics:
1) Re: in flames, other stuff
by "sK@RRe" <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
2) Portable CD Players
by Anna <sionell@airmail.net>
3) Savatage & SavaCon 99
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
4) Island In The Stream update...
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
5) Anathema
by "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
6) Re: in flames, other stuff
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
7) Re: Portable CD Players
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
8) portable cd players break in 6 mos.
by bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst)
9) Mike Portnoy Web site
by Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <ytsekirby@yahoo.com>
10) Re: Suggestions for portable CD players?
by Younis Hilal <yhilal@cds.caltech.edu>
11) 800.COM discount...
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
12) Live Prog mp3 server update!
by Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com>
13) what part of NO/SotC/cdplayers/Therion
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
14) portable CD players
by Raivo Hool <raitz@cafe.ee>
15)
by ivexx2001@usa.net
16) Tiamat
by Shane Hunziker <Shane.Hunziker@harbinger.com>
17) RIO...
by Niall Connaughton <nconnaug@socs.uts.edu.au>
18) Re: Mike Portnoy Web site
by "sK@RRe" <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:55:29 +0200
From: "sK@RRe" <skarre@2.sbbs.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: in flames, other stuff
Message-ID: <3788DA91.DE2CCDAD@2.sbbs.se>
My 2 cents: If you have got either "Jester Race or Whoracle, don't bother to
buy "Colony". "Colony" was a major disappointment for me as it sounds just
like the previous 2 albums. True "In Flames" fans is up for a real anticlimax.
-- sK@RRe mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se http://hem.fyristorg.com/dtConrad Chi wrote:
> Go and buy the new IN FLAMES album now. This band rocks, > I have said it before but I must say it again. 'Colony' > continues in their style of kick ass metal. Anyone stuck > on the lighter side of metal and needs a good melodic > band that is heavier, check this shit out.
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:44:40 -0500 From: Anna <sionell@airmail.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Portable CD Players Message-ID: <3788E617.EDEA6794@airmail.net>
> From: "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com> > > Please suggest some QUALITY portable units that will stand the test of time.
I can only speak from personal experience, but I've got a Panasonic that I've used just about every day--all day--at work for the past 5 years, and it never skips on CDs... unless I bang on the desk, of course... :)
-- Anna .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. http://www.cyberramp.net/~sionell
"All of us get lost in the darkness Dreamers learn to steer by the stars" ~ Neil Peart
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:57:19 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: "fates@listservant.com (Parallels List)" <fates@listservant.com>, Subject: Savatage & SavaCon 99 Message-ID: <3789052F.C979DFC9@ivorygate.com>
For all you Sava fans out there, I was asked to pass along some info for this year's SavaCon. It is in New Jersey and sounds like a big event, more details are at: http://www.savatage.com/savacon99
-- ~Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> <ICQ # 2070538> "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." - http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Listen to YtseRadio at: http://www.dreamt.org/ytseradio <<<
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:51:21 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: "fates@listservant.com (Parallels List)" <fates@listservant.com>, Subject: Island In The Stream update... Message-ID: <378911D9.2CF036E8@ivorygate.com>
Added lots of info on Ray Alder's "Engine" album, a new MIDI file for The Ivory Gate Of Dreams and news that Ray sang the track "Murders In The Rue Morgue" for an upcomming Iron Maiden tribute album. The band he hooked up with on this track is Cosmosquad. If you haven't checked these guys out yet, do it now at: http://fyreshowcase.com/cosmosquad/ Their debut album is a killer instrumental release...
-- ~Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> <ICQ # 2070538> "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." - http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Listen to YtseRadio at: http://www.dreamt.org/ytseradio <<<
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 01:34:08 -0000 From: "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Anathema Message-ID: <006301becc06$a41719c0$985b95c1@pentium1>
>Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 10:55:49 +0100 >From: Graham Borland <graham@epage.ltd.uk> >To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: Anathema
>By now, I was hoping to have seen Anathema live again, performing their >new Judgement material. The gig was cancelled (with no explanation). Bag >o'shite.
And I had the chance to see them, but chose to go and see Ministry instead. bad move!!
> Instead, I'll just have to content myself with reiterating what everyone > else seems to be thinking: Judgement is an exquisite experience. These > days, I have neither the time nor the motivation to write lengthy album > reviews (or even short ones), but this album really does deserve all the > praise it's been getting (and more).
Couldn't agree me. Along with the new Lemur Voice CD - 'Divided' it's keeping LTE2 in its jewel case.
Can't say I thought the Digipack was well designed. I ripped my cover trying to get the booklet out. Maybe I'm just clumsy, though :-))
Got your ticket for the Beard in London yet Graham? II have - even though I was distinctly 'underwhelmed' by D4N - live should be another thing though.
Charlie
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:54:58 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: in flames, other stuff Message-ID: <37893CE2.A2F88B6D@yunque.net>
"sK@RRe" wrote:
> My 2 cents: If you have got either "Jester Race or Whoracle, don't bother to > buy "Colony". "Colony" was a major disappointment for me as it sounds just > like the previous 2 albums. True "In Flames" fans is up for a real anticlimax. >
And IMO for anyone new to in flames, or whos gonna buy a first time album, you need to go with either jester race or whoracle... hell im a big fan, and own those two, and i havent gotten used to Colony yet...and its not growing on me... anyone interested should really stay away from it...and go with Jester race imo..
> > -- > sK@RRe mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se http://hem.fyristorg.com/dt > > Conrad Chi wrote: > > > Go and buy the new IN FLAMES album now. This band rocks, > > I have said it before but I must say it again. 'Colony' > > continues in their style of kick ass metal. Anyone stuck > > on the lighter side of metal and needs a good melodic > > band that is heavier, check this shit out.
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:57:13 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Portable CD Players Message-ID: <37893D69.9A65EC1E@yunque.net>
Anna wrote:
> > From: "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com> > > > > Please suggest some QUALITY portable units that will stand the test of time. > > I can only speak from personal experience, but I've got a Panasonic that I've used just > about every day--all day--at work for the past 5 years, and it never skips on CDs... > unless I bang on the desk, of course... :) >
I second that comment, me and my 2 brothers were given a panasonic portable each about 4 years ago, and we each still have ours...the only thing thats been replaced are the headphones...
> > -- > Anna .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. > http://www.cyberramp.net/~sionell > > "All of us get lost in the darkness > Dreamers learn to steer by the stars" ~ Neil Peart
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:14:34 -0500 From: bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: portable cd players break in 6 mos. Message-ID: <199907120114.UAA02642@mail.busprod.com>
>>portable CD player. The problem is, the dang things never seem to last 6 >>months! Oh, sure they play, but they skip on every track and believe me - > >>My last two were Sonys and before that I had a Magnavox. > >ah feel yur payun. hehe. my last two discmans were Sonys and both died >within 6 months of buying em - no matter what cd you put in, it said "no >disc". incredible coincidence, for the same thing to happen twice in a row >and both times relatively soon after buying it. sure, i can get it fixed on >warranty, but i think it's a pretty good indication that sony sucks. so i'm >thinking of getting one of those Rio portable mp3 players. anyone have >experience with em? i'm particularly interested in durability. will this >outlive my sony discmans? thanks. moo.
I've decided that I just won't buy anything from Sony unless I absolutely have to. Their discmans are pure and utter SHIT! I've had two and the reason I bought the second was because the 1st was a gift and I treated it pretty rough (this was back when they first came out too) I've decided that I'm just gonna get one of those really really really ( I mean like 19.95) cheap ones next time because I forked out over a 100 bucks for this sony I have now (with ESP-2 and shit shit...) and it didnt last for very long... and it always skips.
If your looking for a solution like I am... where you want one player that you can take with you in the car.. keep with you on the desk and take with you on trips there isnt much of an option. unless someone can point me to a QUALITY CHEAP cd player portable...
ANYONE??
some solution that I heard worked for my forst one for a while before it died. if your cd player skips, turning it on its side seems to help... don;t ask me how.. but it seemed to help. I also hear that the laser gets out of alignment pretty easily and that accounts for the skipping and the inablity of the player to locate the disc.
solution? buy cheap ones and throw them away?
I dont like doing this, I still believe that I should be able to buy a product and expect a decent life out of it. That any company that sells products that predictably break should be held accountable by their customers and put out of business... yeah right... sony..out of business....
consumer education... much needed in the US.
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:23:53 -0600 From: Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <ytsekirby@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mike Portnoy Web site Message-ID: <l03110701b3af01b95275@[209.30.64.253]>
Hi all,
I got this from Itchy today:
> As of tonight (July 11th, 1999) at 9:00 PM EST, > Mike Portnoy will have his own official website! > > http://www.mikeportnoy.com/
Hmmm... this is what Derek did just before he "split the band" as Elton John would say. hmmmmm.....
-Nicole/Kirby just causin' trouble and making sure EVERYONE knows about the site ;)
Nicole Stachowicz McWatters ytsekirby@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039 Kirby on irc.dreamt.org:2112
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Younis Hilal <yhilal@cds.caltech.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Suggestions for portable CD players? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990711181534.4327A-100000@crane.cds.caltech.edu>
On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> From: "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com> > > Please suggest some QUALITY portable units that will stand the test of time. > Are there such things? ...or do I need to invest in a bulky boombox? > > Any help is appreciated. Feel free to post to the 'jam if you feel it's > info we all can use. I recommend getting a Panasonic portable CD player. That's what I have now. I bought it in January '97. Since then, I've dropped it once (or was it twice? don't recall now), and I've generally played it for 4 to 8 hours each day. No problems. The ONLY flaw I can think of with this thing is that every 6 months or so, it skips 2 or 3 times on a CD. I use this lens-cleaner CD thing on it, and everything's cool again. Oh yeah, this player doesn't have anti-skip, because I was a cheapskate when I bought it. I should add, though, that I don't put this thing through a whole lot of abuse. I occasionally carry it in my back-pack somewhere, but it generally stays at home. There's another student in my department who I guess uses exactly the same CD player I have (I know it's also a Panasonic, I just don't know if his model number's the same). I watched him drop it (on a carpeted floor, mind you), pick it up, put the CD back in, and keep playing it. I asked him what he thought of his player, and he said that he's had it for a couple of years and he loves it. FYI, the model number on this player is SL-S145. It's a few years old, so I'd recommend looking for a newer Panasonic model.
Younis Hilal------------------------yhilal@cds.caltech.edu
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:47:31 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: "fates@listservant.com (Parallels List)" <fates@listservant.com>, Subject: 800.COM discount... Message-ID: <37897363.8D99E297@ivorygate.com>
By clicking through the link on my page at: http://www.ivorygate.com you can save $8 on any purchase over $15... They have music, movies & electronics with really decent prices... Happy shopping.
-- ~Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> <ICQ # 2070538> "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." - http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://listen.to/ytseradio <<<
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:59:32 -0400 From: Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Live Prog mp3 server update! Message-ID: <4.2.0.56.19990712003955.0098b460@pop.mindspring.com>
Hey folks...
My live mp3 server has been updated with two special shows.
The first is Symphony-X's 6/23/98 show from Japan. Very good quality and an excellent setlist.
The next will only be available for a very limited time. It's the raw soundboard takes from Queensryche's 4/27/92 taping of MTV Unplugged. It's the entire taping including multiple takes of some songs and treats like only the second (and last, actually) "Anybody LIstening?". Get this while you can.
So here's the total list of shows available, in their entirety.
Bela Fleck - 4/5/98 Dream Theater - 12/3/97 and 5/9/98 Medeski, Martin, Wood - 11/15/98 Pink Floyd - 2/28/80 Queensryche - 4/29/95 and 4/27/92 Symphony-X - 6/23/98
Soon to be put up are another Dream Theater show, another Queensryche show (Empire era), a King Crimson show, and a Kansas show. Look for this stuff sometime in the next couple of weeks. Enjoy!
Adam alpine1 (-at-) mindspring.com FTP anonymously to 24.5.106.175 (6 users at a time, 50k/sec max speed)
_________________________________________________ Adam Pye (Alpine) alpine1(-at-)mindspring.com ICQ: 41032734 http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1 ^^ Above URL for MP3 of the Week and Tapelist w/ Setlists __________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:09:23 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: what part of NO/SotC/cdplayers/Therion Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F44A7@ms.kallback.com>
> 1. Is Mike Bahr still around, and if so, what is the address of his > website? No. > 2. What was the story behind Derek's leaving the band. I've read all the > official stuff, but is there more to the story? No. > Please email me privately. Thanks. No.
> KorgX3 drops a Certs in his Cherry Coke to see what happens. and? > NP: Stephen King - Storm of the Century (DVD) Oh my God that sucked. Here's the story.(Some spoilage) Setting: Small New England town in a blizzard. Guy: "Give me what I want and I'll go away." Townfolk: "What do you want?" Guy: "One of your kids." Townfolk: "Ok, here you go." Length: 6 HOURS!
> Subject: Suggestions for portable CD players? My Magnavox boombox (AV 8068) is holding up quite well. Comes with 3-band equalizer (sorry Al) for around $80. I have played 40-45 cds a week for over a year.
The new Therion, Crowning of Atlantis is really good if you like Theli and Vovin. 10 tracks. 5 operatic vocals, 2 halford-esque vocals, 3 live tracks from the last tour including the kick-ass first song off Theli.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:17:53 +0300 (EEST) From: Raivo Hool <raitz@cafe.ee> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: portable CD players Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9907121015090.17950-100000@pillemati.cafe.ee>
]From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
> ah feel yur payun. hehe. my last two discmans were Sonys and both died > within 6 months of buying em - no matter what cd you put in, it said "no > disc". incredible coincidence, for the same thing to happen twice in a > row and both times relatively soon after buying it. sure, i can get it
I can see a repeating pattern... which indeed shows that the lens had turned dusty and needed cleaning. ;-)
The same thing happened to my Sony Dickman as well, and I thought about the warranty and all, but as soon as I had cleaned the lens, no more problems. Maybe you should try that, helps often. ;-)
The Leitz cleaning kit worked for me. Your mileage may vary. Computer shops sell those nifty little things. :-)
Raitz
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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:51:25 +0200 (CEST) From: ivexx2001@usa.net To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-ID: <199907091351.PAA00440@intercom.2mtv.no>
David Dixon, the no-wanker wrote: IMHO, "jamming" does not necessarily mean "wankery" - listen to pretty much any jazz album
Well...isn't jazz just "collective wanking"? (-just in a meaningless, dull, neverending way)
the hoe
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:42:04 -0400 From: Shane Hunziker <Shane.Hunziker@harbinger.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tiamat Message-ID: <FB6DDB4A76FED21181170090273C5FA8256638@atlmisech1.harbinger.com>
Hey, all!
Has anyone (Neil?) picked up the new Tiamat disc "Sumerian Cry"? I saw it and noticed that they are no longer with Century Media but some label that I am not familiar with. Were they dropped or did they leave CM of their own free will? Anybody have details? Also, any opinions on the new disc would be appreciated. Started to pick it up but got Opeth's "My Arms, Your Hearse" instead. Damn, that CD rocks!
Shane Hunziker Harbinger Customer Support -------------------------------------- "You can find all you need in your mind If you take the time."--Dream Theater
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:23:50 +1000 From: Niall Connaughton <nconnaug@socs.uts.edu.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RIO... Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990712232350.0079e790@labmail.socs.uts.edu.au>
>ah feel yur payun. hehe. my last two discmans were Sonys and both died >within 6 months of buying em - no matter what cd you put in, it said "no >disc". incredible coincidence, for the same thing to happen twice in a row >and both times relatively soon after buying it. sure, i can get it fixed on >warranty, but i think it's a pretty good indication that sony sucks. so i'm >thinking of getting one of those Rio portable mp3 players. anyone have >experience with em? i'm particularly interested in durability. will this >outlive my sony discmans? thanks. moo. > First of all, I think you should get them fixed. You payed for them! It's not your fault they fucked up... If Sony is giving you shit gear, complain. Jump up and down.
Secondly, on the RIO thing... I'd recommend a Mini Disc player over the RIO. I don't know how the prices compare, but the discs hold about the same amount of music, and the compression used on Mini Discs is supposed to sound a lot better than MP3. If you're prepared to listen to slightly lower quality sound in order to get a reliable portable music source, what about a high end walkman? Record the music on high quality tapes, get yourself a walkman with Dolby... This should be cheaper than a RIO, and from what I've seen of Mini Disc player prices here in Australia, it's a hell of a lot cheaper than MD...
Anyway, just a bit of food for thought. There are plenty of people on this mailing list who know a lot more about audio gear than I do, so I'm sure someone can give you some good advice about what to get.
Keep on jammin', be it from CD, tape, Mini Disc... whatever!
Niall
NP - LTE2, Another Dimension :)
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:40:40 +0200 From: "sK@RRe" <skarre@2.sbbs.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Mike Portnoy Web site Message-ID: <3789F057.E8AE268D@2.sbbs.se>
Nicole Stachowicz McWatters wrote:
> Hi all, > > I got this from Itchy today: > > > As of tonight (July 11th, 1999) at 9:00 PM EST, > > Mike Portnoy will have his own official website! > > > > http://www.mikeportnoy.com/
Did anyone visit succesfully? I just couldn't connect! -- sK@RRe mailto:skarre@2.sbbs.se http://hem.fyristorg.com/dt
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