YTSEJAM Digest 4917
Today's Topics:
1) Steinway to Heaven
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
2) Underrated?
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
3) FW: Underrated?
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
4) re: selection question
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
5) CD's For Sale
by Neil Elliott <Images_and_Words@compuserve.com>
6) NO FURTHER INTEREST !
by "Ballast & Kalksma" <mkalksma@daxis.nl>
7) Ang:YTSEJAM digest 4916
by tomas.jutenfaldt@arrow.se
8) all BABS
by "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com>
9) Re: Dali's @ CDNow...
by JamesAhab@aol.com
10) Re: new therion/underrated
by JamesAhab@aol.com
11) I need a friendly IT consultant. :) (No - DTC)
by "McClure Engineering" <mcclure@magiclink.com>
12) Ayreon's next cd
by "Dave Leon" <masterpsy@networktel.net>
13) RE: LTE 2 Cravings
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
14) Dali's @ CDNOW, and otras yerbas...
by "Yan E." <yanelmar@rieder.net.py>
15) Iced Earth in Columbia House
by The Central Scrutinizer <hender@wam.umd.edu>
16) Survey Says: Bullshit (NDTC)
by MusicSnob@aol.com
17) Curries
by "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:49:09 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Steinway to Heaven
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE710@messaging>
<<<<
Is "Steinway To Heaven" any Good...
on a scale of 1 to 10 (one being bert and ernie on keyboard and 10 being
God......God can be replaced with either Rochmoninoff or KevMo)
>>>>
Well, if you consider KevMo to be God, the JR piece (Chopin's
"Revolutionary" Etude) is the work of God's God. "Steinway to Heaven" is
pretty solid, though I disliked David Bryan's interpretation of Beethoven's
"Moonlight Sonata" and Chris Ingles' sorry excuse for an interpretation of
Brahms' "Variations on Paganini". Ingles pretty much established the theme
of the piece and then played little jazz runs over it (I mean, it's not bad,
but that's not what I was looking for on this disc) - so be prepared...
Overall I'd give it a 7 out of 10 - for the reasons mentioned above and the
fact that Jordan's K2500 piano patch sounds better than the recordings on
the rest of the album...
David Dixon, MCP
Consultant
E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
ytsedave@asu.edu
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:08:09 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Underrated?
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE711@messaging>
> CS is, in the
> mainstream, one of the most underrated bands of
> all time.
I'll have to go ahead and disagree with this statement. I don't think CS is
underrated, I think CS's music is just taken like you would take a Matchbox
20, Days of the New, or Blink 182. People aren't expecting their music to
be meaningful or deep (though WE all know it is), so they listen to it for
two weeks, toss it aside, and never listen to it again (anyone remember Ace
of Base?). Very few people in the mainstream music listening group realize
or care about the depth of music. There are two types of people in this
world: those who listen to music in the background, and those who, when they
are listening to music, do little else. Only people of the second type,
IMHO, can fully realize the depth and meaning of a certain piece of music.
And take this with you: the very best bands go unnoticed for a LONG time
before being discovered by the mainstream populous, if they EVER get
discovered. I would much rather have CS (who sell platinum albums already)
stay further away from the mainstream and retain their musical integrity
than have them sell out. Wouldn't you?
David Dixon, MCP
Consultant
E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
ytsedave@asu.edu
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:08:59 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: FW: Underrated?
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE712@messaging>
SORRY!!!!!
Wrong list!!!
Fuck.
David Dixon, MCP
Consultant
E-Commerce & Internet Technology Solutions
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
ytsedave@asu.edu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Dixon
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 10:08 AM
> To: 'ytsejam@ax.com'
> Subject: Underrated?
>
> > CS is, in the
> > mainstream, one of the most underrated bands of
> > all time.
>
<snip>
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:27:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: re: selection question
Message-ID: <19990618172757.5381.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com>
"indii" <indii@vistatech.net> asked:
> looking for some new cd's to buy.
> I am currently listening to DT, Explorer's Club,
Symphony X, and need
> something in this style.... Echant? Royal Hunt?
Tempest? Cairo? Shadow
> Gallery? and which album?
Enchant - Highly recommended by many. More "mellow"
than ST and S-X. Nice keyboards with mood. But songs
tend to be slower and more like ballads. Drumming is
considered very good.
Tempest - Stay away, unless you like Irish folk rock.
Shadow Gallery - Beware. Highly recommended by many.
Considered way too cheesy by many. Best to listen
before buying.
Lemur Voice/Insights - Give this one a try. Kinda like
DT mixed with Fates Warning and Queensryche. Very
KevMo style keyboards. Some people have a problem with
the singer's poor pronunciation of english.
Vanden Plas/The God Thing - Another very similar to
Awake era DT. Get it.
> Are the other 2 Symphony X cd's as good as "Divine
Wings of Tragedy".
Very close. Since we know that you like Symph-X,
you'll want to pick up Twilight in Olympus and The
Damnation Game.
my $.02, BH
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:25:30 -0400
From: Neil Elliott <Images_and_Words@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: CD's For Sale
Message-ID: <199906181325_MC2-79EF-55B@compuserve.com>
I have the following DT items for sale. If anyone is interested or wants =
further details mail me privately:
Albums
AWAKE - PRCD 5831 - US promo black and white cover
ACOS - PRO-61842-2 - US promo generic packaging
FII - 2-62060-P - US promo generic packaging
FII - PROP282 - European promo
FII - 62060-2 - US full packaging promo stamped sleeve & disc (sealed)
Bootlegs
Classic Live - RC 1045 - Live Ft. Lauderdale Dec. 5,'92 - 1CD
Skyway Of Nightmares - SR 9361 - Live Augsburg Apr. 7, '93 - 1CD
Dream In Progress - DTJL 931/2 - Live Japan Aug.'93 - 2CD
CD Singles
Caught In A Web - PRCD 5966 - US promo generic (edit & album versions)
Lie - PRCD 5807-2 - US promo in digi-pack sleeve
Burning My Soul - PRCD 9898-2 - US promo (edit/album version & Audio bio)=
You Not Me - PRCD 9954-2 - US promo (edit & Album)
Hollow Years - PRCD 849 - European promo (edit & album)
Others
Winter Rose - German promo in card sleeve
Platypus - When Pus Comes To Shove - German promo in card sleeve
Neil
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:24:33 +0200
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To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: NO FURTHER INTEREST !
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:37:40 +0100
From: tomas.jutenfaldt@arrow.se
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Ang:YTSEJAM digest 4916
Message-ID: <TFSVNXRH@arrow.se>
Hi!
I will be on vacation during week 25 & 26, and will be back in business on
the 5th of july.
Richard K„rrstr”m, here in the warehouse, will handle my phonecalls during
this time, but this job is new for him, so for more complicated matters,
please contact Fazil G”ker.
Best regards,
Tomas Jutenf„ldt
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:30 -0800
From: "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: all BABS
Message-ID: <199906181915.MAA05150@knight.axnet.net>
Babs writes: "Hello everyone, it's Babs...."
Not to nitpick or anything but I believe it was:
"Hello all, it's BABS." I only remember this because you had
the first post in the first jam I received when you posted a lot in
the pre-Awake days. The all-caps of your name struck me...so I
remembered...plus Bafu made fun of your name :)
-Rahul Ananda-
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:22:29 EDT
From: JamesAhab@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Dali's @ CDNow...
Message-ID: <a7ce66a9.249bf675@aol.com>
>< FWiW, my Dali's is still listed as on backorder there. Of course, I'll
probably get my cancellation notice today. CDNow probably sells a relative
shitload of Magna Carta releases. How in the world are they deleting
brand-new releases?! ><
E-mail Magna Carta and ask them.
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:45:38 EDT
From: JamesAhab@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: new therion/underrated
Message-ID: <d4d1b22d.249bfbe2@aol.com>
About new Therion, I have this Summer 99 Nuclear Blast catalogue/magazine
which mentions Crowning of Atlantis several times. There's a review of it and
an interview with Christofer Johnsson, but they're both in German. I have no
idea what they say, but I can make some of it out, and it seems to me like
this new CD has some cover songs, some live stuff, and some different
versions of old songs. One line says "eine neue Version von Clavicula Nox."
Also in the interview, it says "Therion Coversongs" and goes on to list bands
Like Manowar, Accept, Primal Fear, and more. And finally, "drei klasse
Livetracks das Album ab." Also, it says "Mini-CD" a lot. So, I'm just going
by `context clues`, its a wild guess, but it seems appropriate seeing as they
just released an album last year and then toured. they wouldnt have time to
make a new one so fast.
>< SORRY!!!!! Wrong list!!! ><
well, it's still relevant here.
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 15:55:06 -0600
From: "McClure Engineering" <mcclure@magiclink.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: I need a friendly IT consultant. :) (No - DTC)
Message-ID: <003001b80023$60bc57e0$0201010a@chuck.meserver.com>
I know we've got a ton of techie people here and I have a (Dali's?) dilemma.
I'm the Drafter/Designer/Network Admin/Computer
Analyst/Pretty-much-underpaid-for-overworking-guy for the small Engineering
firm I work at and I've hit a snag in the last two days:
We run a small 13 client network on Windows NT through TCP/IP. The Boss
wants every computer on the network to have full internet access(!), so I
said "I think we can do that." So I bought a 56k modem, installed it in the
NT server (somehow miraculously on the 1st try), got a copy of WinProxy, and
set the ball rolling. The problem I've come across is that even though I've
gone over all of the settings within WinProxy and all the client machines,
'net sharing works superbly, etc., the overall performance of the network
has decreased phenominally. I'm not schooled in netspeak so I'm not sure
what the problem is exactly, but it seems like a major bandwidth problem,
even though we're running a full duplex 100BaseT network. ICQ seemed to be
the culprit, but the problem still occurs randomly. Perhaps someone here
has had a similar problem? :) Any info would be greatly appreciated.
PRIVATE MAIL ONLY! :) I hate to clutter this place with blah any more than
I already have.
Thanks!
-- KorgX3 is near to ripping out his precious hair. NP: I haven't had time to listen to anything all day. :P------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:20:18 -0500 From: "Dave Leon" <masterpsy@networktel.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Ayreon's next cd Message-ID: <001701beb9d8$c0255860$5719f5d0@oemcomputer>
]From the the official Ayreon web site (www.ayreon.com)
New confirmed singer on the new Ayreon projects: Spock's Beard singer Neal Morse!
Confirmed singers on the new Ayreon projects: Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden) Fabio Lione (Rhapsody) Andi Deris (Helloween) Ian Parry (Elegy, Ayreon) Ralf Scheepers (Primal Fear, ex-Gamma Ray) Robert Soeterboek (My Brother Jake, Ayreon)
Edward Reekers (Kayak, Ayreon) Lana Lane (Lana Lane)
Confirmed musicians on the new Ayreon projects: Clive Nolan - keyboards (Arena, Pendragon, Ayreon) Erik Norlander - keyboards (Lana Lane, Rocket Scientists) Keiko Kumagai - keyboards (Ars Nova) Ed Warby (ex-Elegy, Gorefest, Ayreon) - drums
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:54:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: RE: LTE 2 Cravings Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9906190050070.27352-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Simon Long Krogh wrote:
> NP: Genesis - Harold the Barrel
WHIIHAA!! Harold the Barrel!! One of my favourite Genesis tracks... Think i'm gonna listen to it again in a minute...
More importantly: all you guys waiting for LTE2 to arrive: picked up my copy today... WOW even better than the first one (at first listen)... Just incredible... I heard Acid Rain and Biaxident before, but the rest of the tracks are at least equally stunning. Check out When The Water Breaks!
BTW: It seems to me that JP's guitar sounds sound cleaner and more balanced (more 'produced'?) than on LTE1... Anyone agree?
Cheers
Zaphod
|Peter Geerts "...And for an encore, Man | |zaphod@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be proved that black is white | |ICQ: 13122363 (weekend) and got himself killed on | |Political Science Student the next zebra crossing..."| |Leuven University, Belgium (Douglas Adams) |
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:54:50 -0400 From: "Yan E." <yanelmar@rieder.net.py> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Dali's @ CDNOW, and otras yerbas... Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990618185450.0079fd00@mail.rieder.net.py>
Hi y'all! Just tired of lurking..
]From: Pat Daugherty
>>The same damn thing happened to me. I had ordered Ice Age and Dali's. I get a message saying both were canceled... I sent them an email saying WTF, especially since I had used a $10 off coupon. They said if I wanted they would redo the order with the coupon. So I have gotten Ice AGe but Dali's is "out of stock". Mergers (cdnow with musicblvd) suck.>>>
I've ordered Dali's about 2 weeks ago along with Chromakey's Dead Air..... Both of them were backordered, and yesterday I've received Dali's... But Chroma still appears as backordered... Funny thing is that.. I live in Paraguay ! (that's South America, you 1st. world inhabitants !)
>>Concerning Ice Age, what does everyone think they are so great for? They are good but they didn't impress me that much.>>>
How are they ? If they're on MagnaCarta, they're supposed to be good, but what should I expect from this guys ?
To the ppl. that have Planet X ? How is it like ? I hope it isn't like Platypus AT ALL... I just didn't like it.
I remember someone posted about why Derek didn't play in FII like he did on Platypus... I will say it quite contrary: WhY the h.. he didn't play on Platypus like he did on FII, you know... LITS intro type thing...
And finally.. I've seen many times Symphony X mentioned here.. I've heard to Mike Pinella and the other Mike (can't remember the last name) in the Working Man Rush tribute.. They sound quite interesting.. How is Divine Wings.. ?
]From Indii :
>>I am currently listening to DT, Explorer's Club, Symphony X, and need something in this style.... Echant? Royal Hunt? Tempest? Cairo? Shadow Gallery? and which album?
I'm almost on the same stage. I have SG's TYRANNY... which is GREAT... and besides, it features almost 10 seconds of La Brie....Really dunno about their other discs, there are sooo many things to hear...
My portal to all the bands that appear on it was AGE OF IMPACT.. I just love the whole disc ... I REALLY hope Trent and Magna Carta put something like that someday again ...Unfortunaly, I wasn't still subscribed to the jam at Age of Impact's release time, so I dunno the jammer's opinion about it... But, given the repetition of threads.. Any opinions will be welcome !! (either private or on the jam )
>>I also got the new Def Leppard (flames to /dev/null). What is with their new look? At least the music doesn't match their look...
DEF LEPPARD ?? New album ?!?!? COOOL!!!! I didn't know that... I thought I was the only DL fan over here !!
Well that's all for now.. Be good and watch out with the spicy food !
_________________________________________
- . Yan Gonzalez Acosta . - _________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:34:55 -0400 From: The Central Scrutinizer <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Iced Earth in Columbia House Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19990618153455.009d0500@pop.wam.umd.edu>
Iced Earth is making it bigtime. In the latest Columbia House "Music Mix" newsletter's "Buzz Bin" section ("new" stuff)...
Iced Earth Something Wicked This Way Comes. Iced Earth is the complete metal band - powerful, intense, intelligent and *loud*. Packing enough velocity and ferocity to band your head to dust, their roaring guitars and bone-battering rhythms create the impenetrable "wall of sound" on 'Consequences'; 'My Own Savior'; 'Birth Of The Wicked'; 'Stand Alone' and more. (Century Media) 1998
Pretty lame review, but it's better than nothing.
Brian
[NP...Porcupine Tree -- Signify]
=================================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: hender@wam.umd.edu ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ His Faithful Bootleg Page: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/Musik/Boot/ ===================================
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:01:59 EDT From: MusicSnob@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Survey Says: Bullshit (NDTC) Message-ID: <f5a59d8d.249c4607@aol.com>
Someone spouted out of his anal orifice: >I've always wanted to say that when someone talks smack about music I like. >"ok, fucker, let's see you get up there and perform." It's so true.
/me cues Family Feud buzzer
The ability needed to perform a given piece of music is in no way related to its relative value. If one plays something extremely difficult (ie. something I can't play), am I not allow to judge its musical merit? That sounds like bullshit. According to the logic found in the quoted matter, if the reader is unable to play "chopsticks" on the instrument of his choice, then said reader is unable to dislike anything as difficult or more difficult than the aforementioned musical composition. Like I said. Bullshit.
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 02:16:00 -0000 From: "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com> To: "Ytsejam list" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Curries Message-ID: <00bd01beb9f9$ad79f9c0$c44695c1@pentium1>
> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:32:15 +0100 > From: "Dreamgirl" <dreamgirl@dreamtheater.zzn.com> > To: ytsejam@axnet.net > Subject: Aloo There!!
> Vindaloo is just about the hottest curry dish you can get - > avoid if you have never tried curry!!!
You surprise me! Most Brits - or at least those who have been students, would have gone one step further after too many beers and been brave enough to try a Phal.
The order of 'hotness' in Manchester curry houses, going from the mildest to the hottest used to be
- korma (only for wimps) - madras (respectably hot) - vindaloo (bloody hot) and - phal (Arrggh I think I'm burning inside)
Various establishments encouraged the student trade, by touting even hotter extremes, such as
- Charlie's special and - Suicide (aptly named)
These were usually attempted on a Friday evening and if you needed less than the entire weekend to recover from the after-effects then you were deemed to have a superhuman constitution.
Of course, young people today are probably competing over who can eat the hottest chilli .... or whatever
Charlie
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