YTSEJAM Digest 4934
Today's Topics:
1) Petrucci solos
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
2) Re: Genesis prog? YES!
by Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
3) Various replies
by Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net>
4) Testing... I'm really sorry, but I don't give a shit!!! :-)
by Alexandre Lymberopoulos <lymber@iname.com>
5) traffic jam at your office
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
6) MCA...
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
7) Symphony X
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
8) Re: Genesis prog? YES!
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
9) Re: Guitar's screwup and Mullmuzzler
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
10) spice wars
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
11) Alex (bruce) Skolnick
by "Gilberto Bressan Junior" <gbressanjr@sti.com.br>
12) Re: Bassists
by Diablo6491@aol.com
13) Re: Genesis prog? YES!
by Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
14) Re: Genesis prog? YES!
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
15) Dogpile on Syrinx!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
16) Re: LTE 2 Cravings/Genesis
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@iname.com>
17) Re: Bombay Vindaloo blows the FAQ out of Fred Meyer!
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@iname.com>
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:13:17 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Petrucci solos
Message-ID: <3770C14D.A8B7F95F@isd.net>
CyberDuke wrote:
>I don't like the OIALT solo, because I know JP can play with more brain.
>That solo is plain shred and as far as I'm concerned, the Live in Tokyo
>solo will beat OAILT one always!!!
I wholeheartedly agree! The LiT solo had MUCH more to offer.
Petrucci spends too much time dwelling on technically impressive
speed runs and not enough time articulating a musical theme.
When he slows down and really begins to voice his playing, he's at
his best. This is an area where Jon Finn could give him a few pointers.
IMHO, the most creative solo I've heard JP perform was the LiT offering.
But what do I know?
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Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
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Switchcraft Microsystems
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:22:47 -0400
From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Genesis prog? YES!
Message-ID: <3770C387.64A04529@frontierlogic.com>
> Ahhh, progressive genesis.
>
> We now take you on a journey -
Oh Phuhleaze!! There's about 900 other jammers, old and new that I
would rather listen to hot air it about anything (regardless of whether
its Genesis) from anyone else.
>
> But alas, I digress.
Don't bother mentioning that, asshole. You digressed the moment you
first opened your mouthhole.
> Thankfully, I have a complete Genesis
> discogprahy (and whatever else is there)
Yeah....woohoo..aren't you cool. Eat shit and die motherfucker. You
are such a detracting quality of this jam that scores of jammers have
unsubbed, just because of you. I'm saying everything that all the other
people in the world want to say, but don't -- because they're afraid to.
The big difference is that I don't fucking care. Please crawl back
under the hole that you slithered out from years ago.
Oh....and by the way. You can't sing for shit! Some YtseConer has it
all on living-proof video tape!
-mojoman
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:28:53 -0500
From: Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Various replies
Message-ID: <37716DB5.18DA@auburn.net>
First, I bought more CDs this week than I did during the first five
months of this year. I bought Paul Gilbert's "King Of Clubs," Joe
Stump's "Night of the Living Shred," and Voivod's "Nothingface," all for
a total of $13 at a local store. All three are worthwhile, though none
are worldbeaters. Paul is my hero, Joe is frightening, and Voivod used
to play Rush songs backwards and call them originals.
Last weekend I was wandering through a mall in Columbus, GA, and I
happened upon the remnants of what used to be Blockbuster Music. As it
turns out, BM was bought out and they are now called Warehouse Music. I
was very pleased to find the new Spock's Beard and LTE2 in there, so I
picked them up. LTE2 is monstrous. The chugging low-B-string-oriented
part that happens a few times during Acid Rain is incredible, as is most
of the rest of the disc. The new Spock's Beard disc - it didn't suck me
in like their other three discs did upon first listen, but it's still
damn good stuff.
Another thing about LTE2 that I really liked was the sound Jordan used
in the beginning of Acid Rain that was a good lead sound with a
percussive, xylophonish sound layered in there.
I acquired a DT promo CD called "Live Bonus Tracks." It has four songs:
"Caught In Alice's 9-Inch Tool Garden," "Take Away My Pain," "Burning My
Soul," and "Another Hand/The Killing Hand," all recorded at Birch Hell
during the Fix for '96 mini tour. Some of the words on the case are in
French. Does anyone (Steffen?) know anything about the origin of this
disc? Many thanks in advance to whomever can help me out.
The discussion about Christian music reminded me of one of my old
girlfriends. She often made me set the CD player to repeat a Petra song
called "Prayer" over and over while we...umm...procreated.
If anyone finds themselves in Chattanooga, Tennessee, go to a mall
called "Hamilton Place." The Camelot Music store in that mall has the
most incredible prog metal selection I've ever seen outside of a
specialty shop/catalog.
Does anyone else like the band Sugarloaf? If you do, please let me know.
They wrote that song "Green Eyed Lady," but I've got their "Best Of...,"
and I swear that I have played it more than any other CD I own over the
last six months. They play your basic 70's rock, I suppose, with a good
organist and guitarist, but the songwriting and soloing is better than
"your basic 70's rock."
If you're going to be at Dragon*Con in Atlanta, Georgia, during the 4th
of July weekend, and your name is neither Paul nor Phil, let me know via
private email. I like meeting Ytsejammers. They're cool :)
And, possibly most importantly, Dave Thomas, the guy that created the
wonderful Doom 2 DT level, said:
> The Matrix ... (which, btw, is easily the best film of 1999...)
Please, do not declare any film to be the best of 1999 until you see
"The Blair Witch Project." This is the first _truly_ frightening movie
that has been filmed in at least 15 years. If you're curious, check out
http://www.blairwitch.com or http://www.artisanent.com
May Blockbuster Music rest in pieces.
Take care, everyone,
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:34:47 -0300
From: Alexandre Lymberopoulos <lymber@iname.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Testing... I'm really sorry, but I don't give a shit!!! :-)
Message-ID: <19990623093447.A21266@iname.com>
Sorry again
[]s, Alexandre.
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:01:30 PDT
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: traffic jam at your office
Message-ID: <19990623140130.89265.qmail@hotmail.com>
someone speaking of I&W:
>"first major release" fair enough
>"first release that was worth a damn." some of us weird
ones actually prefer
WDADU to, say, Awake
>"first release with JLB" awright....some solid
ice, finally, can't no one
challenge this one....
question about the word "major": was MCA records ever considered a major
player in the biz? I've just got this nagging feeling that there were a few
'name' artists associated with the MCA label way back when....but i can't
pull any specifics.....just curious.....
partha
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:14:24 -0500
From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: MCA...
Message-ID: <iss.45c4.3770ebbf.2882b.1@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
Responding To: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
Original Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:03:58 -0700 (PDT)
> question about the word "major": was MCA records ever considered a major
>
> player in the biz? I've just got this nagging feeling that there were a
> few
> 'name' artists associated with the MCA label way back when....but i can't
>
> pull any specifics.....just curious.....
Skynnyrd is the only one I can think of off hand, but I know there are a
few others. That was years ago, though. I can't think of any big names on
MCA recently.
-Brian
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:27:00 -0400
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Symphony X
Message-ID: <3770EEB3.A0EC3150@home.com>
Kevin Carmouche said:
> Well, after several strong suggestions to try out Symphony X, I finally
> downloaded a few MP3's so that I could sample them out. Now, I'm not
> trying to start a Spock's Beard thing here with Symphony X(BTW, I
> absolutely LOVE Spock's Beard, they are even BETTER than I thought, really
> a great big surprise, thanks...:), but I wasn't that impressed.
*in best Samuel L. Jackson voice*
"What, you don't like Symphony X muthafucka? Die muthafucka, die!"
Heh, just kidding, BTW. ;)
Seriously though, if you don't like the "chunky" guitar tones, you
probably won't get into Symphony X. But (for curiosity's sake) which
MP3's did you hear?
Laters,
- Joe DeAngelo
jdeangelo@home.com ICQ # 1872723
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"Our worlds collide, now in disguise
You'll feel the Wrath Divine
Tears of woe fall from the sky..."
- Symphony X, "The Divine Wings of Tragedy"
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:29:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
To: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
Subject: Re: Genesis prog? YES!
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9906231023150.29782-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> > Ahhh, progressive genesis.
> >
> > We now take you on a journey -
>
> Oh Phuhleaze!! There's about 900 other jammers, old and new that I
> would rather listen to hot air it about anything (regardless of whether
> its Genesis) from anyone else.
...and your point here would be to..what, be an asshole?
> Yeah....woohoo..aren't you cool. Eat shit and die motherfucker.
can ya feel the love in this room?
> unsubbed, just because of you. I'm saying everything that all the other
> people in the world want to say, but don't -- because they're afraid to.
You know what I love? I love that when someone does this. Why?
Maybe they were dropped on their head as a child or something else, I
don't know. Regardless, it's comments like this which has turned the
Ytsejam into the downward spiral into the tiolet. I don't know what
pussywillow got under YOUR skin, Frank, but next time you might want to
stop being such an asshole - if that's within your grasp. Stop being the
problem, Frank, and start being a solution.
- mike.
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:32:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Guitar's screwup and Mullmuzzler
Message-ID: <Pine.HPX.4.10.9906231031440.2732-100000@njmsa.umdnj.edu>
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Korg Ecksthrey wrote:
> he sold it for drug money. Blah. :( Although I find it odd that the name
> Bruce Skolnick sounds familiar to me, I don't know of any guitar players by
> that name. :)
Maybe you guys are getting confused with Bruce Kulick.....
-Al
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:44:29 PDT
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: spice wars
Message-ID: <19990623144429.91481.qmail@hotmail.com>
anyone catch the name of Geri Haliwell's (aka ginger spice) new album?
"schizophonic"
nuno should sue
i guess it ain't a crime to title a disc with a word that's been used
before....but it sure would be funny if nuno did drag Ginger to court to
this :)
partha
(apologies if sent twice, interesting hotmail burp just occurred)
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:51:21 -0300
From: "Gilberto Bressan Junior" <gbressanjr@sti.com.br>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Alex (bruce) Skolnick
Message-ID: <005201bebd87$dd888960$e531d4c8@califano>
Korg "Barbrady" X3 said:
"Alex Skolnick. He's a damn good guitar player, too. A once friend of mine
used to have a signature series Ibanez of his. Sweet, sweet guitar. Except
he sold it for drug money. Blah. :( Although I find it odd that the name
Bruce Skolnick sounds familiar to me, I don't know of any guitar players by
that name. :) "
well, maybe your mind is playing tricks on you, but it could be BRUCE KULICK
from KISS :)
Gilberto
NP: Richie Kotzen - Bi-Polar Blues
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:19:59 EDT
From: Diablo6491@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Bassists
Message-ID: <a27e1fe6.24a2551f@aol.com>
<< and I can't believe nobody mentioned the late Cliff Burton, man, was
that guy a misplaced rip-roaring guitar player or what??? :) >>
I myself was waondering the same thing along with Les Claypool:> God he
rocks:> If everyone knows where this guy is coming from, you might agree
with me:> Though you may anyway if you've heard what he does with bass
RaY
-And through the eyes of truth I finally understand!-
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:24:54 -0400
From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Genesis prog? YES!
Message-ID: <3770FC46.62956759@frontierlogic.com>
SyrAss wrote:
>
> > > Ahhh, progressive genesis.
> > >
> > > We now take you on a journey -
> >
> > Oh Phuhleaze!! There's about 900 other jammers, old and new that I
> > would rather listen to hot air it about anything (regardless of whether
> > its Genesis) from anyone else.
>
> ...and your point here would be to..what, be an asshole?
No....To proclaim to the world how much of a cocksucker you are! You
annoy the living shit out of the majority of humans alive. I don't give
a fuck if you've got your dick inside Mike Rutherford's ass. Don't come
on here putting on airs about your expertise and knowledge. Cuz it aint
worth shit, fucko!!
> > Yeah....woohoo..aren't you cool. Eat shit and die motherfucker.
>
> can ya feel the love in this room?
Who the fuck said anything about Love, Assmunch? You're annoying, shut
the fuck up and go away!
>
> > unsubbed, just because of you. I'm saying everything that all the other
> > people in the world want to say, but don't -- because they're afraid to.
>
> You know what I love? I love that when someone does this. Why?
> Maybe they were dropped on their head as a child or something else, I
> don't know. Regardless, it's comments like this which has turned the
> Ytsejam into the downward spiral into the tiolet. I don't know what
> pussywillow got under YOUR skin, Frank, but next time you might want to
> stop being such an asshole - if that's within your grasp. Stop being the
> problem, Frank, and start being a solution.
No Syrass, it is you that has turned the Ytsejam into a spiraling
toilet-flush. Remember, oh useless one, I wasn't around for quite some
time. But I was here on this list, over 5 years ago. I'm one of the
veterans (but I don't force feed that to people, because I don't feel a
need to) The list was a respectable list, worth anyone's valuable
time...because it dealt with a common love of a great band and the
family that contributed to the list. Five years later, we have a much
different list. Here's what happens when you post to the jam:
*you get slammed because you posted something already on the faq
*you get slammed cause your opinion isn't welcome
*you get some "I am holier than thou" response from yours truly,
Syrass!
Well, you mention that I am part of the problem??? How could I be part
of the problem? Most of the time, I am in deep lurk mode. Remember, oh
useless one, I unsubbed 2 years back and only recently returned. If you
are concerned about who is a problem, get up from your dumb tech support
job, go to the bathroom and look in the fucking mirror.
You ask me to stop being part of the problem and instead, be part of the
solution??? I am being part of the solution. The solution to expose you
for what you are, a loser that thinks he's far more important than we
all know. Do us all a favor, and just stop speaking and posting. There
would probably be alot more Dream Theater fans out there on the net, if
they never bumped into you on the ytsejam or the newsgroups!
-m o j o m a n
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:28:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
To: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
Subject: Re: Genesis prog? YES!
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9906231224390.26499-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> You ask me to stop being part of the problem and instead, be part of the
> solution??? I am being part of the solution. The solution to expose you
> for what you are, a loser that thinks he's far more important than we
> all know. Do us all a favor, and just stop speaking and posting. There
> would probably be alot more Dream Theater fans out there on the net, if
> they never bumped into you on the ytsejam or the newsgroups!
Frank, I gotta thank you for making my position on this
matter even more clear. I will not stoop down to your level, nor should
anyone else for that matter. Misery loves company, but I refuse to follow
you. This is my last comment on the matter, so have fun spewing venom at
others!
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1993 10:56:23 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Dogpile on Syrinx!
Message-ID: <001a01b803e7$6c3303e0$0201010a@meserver.com>
> anyone else for that matter. Misery loves company, but I refuse to follow
> you. This is my last comment on the matter, so have fun spewing venom at
Yah, I had a dream the other night that Syrinx really pissed me off and I'm
having a really difficult time separating fantasy from reality! Syrinx, you
cornhole! I should never have loaned you my library card, you bastard!
What's the first thing you do but go buy a bunch of CD's on it, violating my
virginity! Blah! :) Don't ever take Syrinx out for dinner cuz he'll just
eat all of the asparagus without even asking if you wanted any! Blah!
> Who the fuck said anything about Love, Assmunch? You're annoying, shut
> the fuck up and go away!
LOL! Settle down Mojo, you're making me horny! BLEAT!
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KorgX3 thinks Mojoman must not have chewed his doozer thoroughly.
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:25:10 -0300
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@iname.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: LTE 2 Cravings/Genesis
Message-ID: <19990617232510.A250@iname.com>
On Jun 17 1999, Rob Pociluk wrote:
> "Ripples" by Genesis from the album Trick of the Tail. Lead vocals:
> Phil Collins (before he wimped out). <grin> A great album.
BTW, if you can, do yourself a favor and check out the cover
of this song with Annie Haslam on vocals.
This is the perfect example of an lady that's got an excellent
set of attributes: she's intelligent, she's beautiful, she's
got one of the most incredible voices. Too bad she seems to
have problems with breast cancer, AFAIK. :-(
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:15:42 -0300
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@iname.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Bombay Vindaloo blows the FAQ out of Fred Meyer!
Message-ID: <19990619011542.A436@iname.com>
On Jun 17 1999, TheCowGod wrote:
>
> >> From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
> >
> >> >of. :) Maybe Bombay is Indian for chicken or something.
> >> Who would name the capital of their country "chicken"? :)
> >
> >..and as Bombay is not the capital of India - Delhi is -, I think it's
> >safe to say that "bombay" means chicken indeed. :-)
>
> bah, and new york should be the capital of the US too :) moo.
And isn't it the capital? :-) You know, like Rio de Janeiro or
Sao Paulo being capitals of Brazil... :-)
[]s, Roger...
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