YTSEJAM Digest 4922
Today's Topics:
1) March of the Korg.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4921
by "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
3) Ok... now all the Superior mp3's are up...
by basmer@med-rz.uni-saarland.de
4) a couple flaws in the Korg Trinity's design (NDTC)
by ShadowBor@aol.com
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4918
by "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
6) If it doesn't start with a K, it's gotta suck.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
7) Lead Sounds
by Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
8) Puff the Bearded Dragon
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
9) Right, JP doesn't improv, but does Jordan?
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
10) RE: Bruce Skolnick
by "xxx" <hipodilski_@web.bg>
11) Spock's and some other shizola
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
12) WDADU Cover
by "Samah" <woolcock@camtech.net.au>
13) More of my trash
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
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Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:22:19 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: March of the Korg.
Message-ID: <004e01bebba6$0b09a7e0$730d84d0@korgx3>
>So I'm sitting here wondering just how clueless you'd have to be to post
>something like this. Why am I wondering this? Because I consider it
>sacrilege to slag the Beard?
And so it thus makes it wrongful for the guy to not like Spock's? I think
it's a good idea for other people to express (or reinforce otherwise) that
"Band X" (Not to be construed as Phil Collins' Band X, yet it can be
inclusive) is not omni-enjoyable. Simply because it's possibly a majority
opinion on this list that the Beard may in fact be "The Shit" doesn't
disadvocate any person the rights to express that Spock's Beard is "Shit" or
any other form of excrementory matter thereof. IMO.
I can say that the latest Crash Test Dummies CD is absolute shit, and I
highly doubt that I would receive a negative affirmation in response as they
are likely not enjoyed by any other than I on this list. Yet, shouldn't my
post be echoed with a negative response if the latest Spock's Beard CD is?
Folly, I say! Tis majority opinion I think I hear! What is not appropriate
for the majority must be inappropriate for everyone? Poppycock! Legalize
marijuana, public sex, and graffiti-pissing on buildings! There aren't
enough freedoms to go around, so don't try to push your zealous pretentious
insecurities on me because I can't take it anymore!
Actually, Spock's Beard is an absolute bitch to listen to. I've noticed
(and yeah, I've done it, too) that the people who can actually dig the Beard
(and other prog bands like DT) furtively don these "Holier Than Thou" caps
and march around looking down their noses at people. Hell, I think Day for
Night has an order form for these caps. So Trent thinks they aren't any
good. He gave his reasons, no matter how absurd you find them to be,
respect them and move on. Jesus, it's like a bunch of banty roosters all
trying to get on the same hen. Why not just reinforce his idea. God, I
wouldn't want to look like any of you guys either. :)
Rah. I'm bored. :)
-- KorgX3 cleans this blood off of his monitor. Damn mosquitos. NP: Need for Speed - High Stakes, killer game.------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 06:47:20 -0000 From: "Charlie Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4921 Message-ID: <007201bebbb1$eb124080$095195c1@pentium1>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:59:23 EDT ]From: Jimbojorda@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: When Dream and Day Unite -- Back Cover > >Is it just my copy, or does everyone's WDADU back cover have a >blue blotch with a strange shape on the T of track listing 7 (The >Ones Who Help To Set The Sun)? If it isn't a printing error (only >on my copy), what exactly is it?? Any ideas?
I have the same thing on mine (at least the one issued by MCA/ One Way Records). The Mechanic version of the disk (which I also have) lists the songs by Side One/Side Two - as if it's a vinyl LP rather than a CD
Charlie
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:19:26 +0200 From: basmer@med-rz.uni-saarland.de To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Ok... now all the Superior mp3's are up... Message-ID: <9906210619.AA04762@krzsun.med-rz.uni-saarland.de>
Hi!
I have uploaded now all the acoustic songs just for the hell of it which means that there are 5 more songs now!!!! :)
Have fun...
Bernd
--------------------------------------------------------- Bernd Basmer Guitar - Superior
For information about Superior have a look at: http://www.free-minded.de/ http://www.fine.de/superior http://www.noiserecords.com --------------------------------------------------------- Why be normal?
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 02:22:18 EDT From: ShadowBor@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: a couple flaws in the Korg Trinity's design (NDTC) Message-ID: <398964ef.249f341a@aol.com>
Another reason Jordan likes the Kurzweil is that when you switch patches, it doesn't cut any notes - that is, if you were playing a string sound, and were holding chord with the sustain pedal and then wanted to immediately switch to piano, you could do so and play piano with the string sound still sustaining until you release the pedal (I asked Jordan about this at the RPM clinic at Berklee). The Trinity, unfortunately doesn't do this. As soon as you switched to the piano sound the strings would cut short. Whenever you switch sounds on the Trinity, there's a split second while it brings up the new sound where no notes can be sounding (whether sustained or played). This sucks for live performance. The other big problem with the Trinity (in my opinion) is the 32 note polyphony (for the unfamiliar, polyphony is how many notes can be played simultaneously - hence if you have 32 notes playing on the Trinity and hit a 33rd note, the first one will cut out and so on. If you have a piano string sound with the strings in octaves, that's 3 notes going just from pressing one key. Layered sounds eat up polyphony). It should have had at least 64 - personally I'd go for 128. Other than these two things, the Trinity rocks. It just blows my mind though, that Korg would make such a bad - assed machine, and then leave such major flaws like that. It's like paying tons of cash for a really nice Corvette ZR-1 convertable, but the top has to be folded down manually and you can't adjust the mirrors or something. But anyway those are the only two big things that the Kurz has over the Trinity (as far as technical goes), and it holds more sounds although the Trinity's memory is expandable for more $. As far as sounds, it's personal preference. I happen to prefer the Trinity's sounds. Although, you can significantly edit the sounds on both units. Oh, one other thing: I don't know about the Kurz, but the Trinity Pro X weighs a f*ckin' ton. It's great in my basement, I absolutely LOVE my Pro X - it's the coolest thing I've ever owned (the only keyboard I've ever owned actually, other than a Yamaha PSR-48), but it does NOT lend itself to the road. But anyway. Rock on.
Rob
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:51:55 +1000 From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4918 Message-ID: <376DE10B.52DB333E@alphalink.com.au>
Hi, Could someone please fill me in on what a Chapman Stick is. Is it a brand name or is it something different? Thanks.
Ok, I'm not a bass player or a keyboard player but I really liked the lead sounds Jordan had when he did the show with Dream Theater a few years back. It could just be the recording quality of the show, but I thought they sounded cool.
I've been interested to see the number of people who are into Dream Theater but who don't play
an instrument. Being a guitar player myself, I got into them through hearing about JP, but I was thinking it must have been 'hard' for those people who don't play an instrument to really appreciate them. Unless you know lots of musicians or something. Just a thought.
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 01:17:31 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: If it doesn't start with a K, it's gotta suck. Message-ID: <001401bebbb6$23432ec0$730d84d0@korgx3>
> Another reason Jordan likes the Kurzweil is that when you switch >patches, it doesn't cut any notes - that is, if you were playing a string >sound, and were holding chord with the sustain pedal and then wanted to
I dunno, though. I still feel like I'm interfacing with a toy whenever I play a Kurzweil. Even with that $4000 2500XL or whatever it was (hehe. I can't remember the exact name, but I'll assume a $4000 'board is their top or close). I also didn't have enough time to mess with it or even hear it for that matter. The lame-asses at the Musician's Friend showroom were too busy showing off the masterful piece of shit that let's you push a couple of buttons to crank out a random 5-minite "masterpiece." One of the guys finally broke away to see if I was breaking the Kurz or whatever and all I could do was bitch about that piece of dung random thingy. Blah. All at once you can use the thing to separate inspiration, creation, and emotion from a song. What a pity that there are probably a couple of ten thousand kids with these occursed things in their bedrooms. :(
Anyway, I was pretty certain that Trinities had 64 note polyphony. What a trip. Mebbe that was something that was corrected with the v3? I certainly won't buy another keyboard that has only 32. I looooove to layer stuff, and 32 puts a serious damper on doing that. :P
As far as I could tell anyway, Kurzweils seem to be the king boards for truer analog recreation. Kurz's have the best piano, string, etc. sounds I've heard, whereas Korgs seem to be better at random tone generation and synths. Sooo... I guess it's a matter of personal preference. I'd use both if I could. :)
Anywho... It's time to go sleep with the spiders. -- KorgX3 wonders why his tummy hurts. NP: John Tesh - One World (naptime music)
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 02:37:16 -0500 From: Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Lead Sounds Message-ID: <4.1.19990621022343.00972dd0@mail.msy.bellsouth.net>
You know, it's interesting to see how people differ so much, even with respect to things we all generally like...such as with the Jordan Lead Sounds thing(One thing is nice, this discussion has been so nice and civil...hehe) I thought is was something that some people liked the percussive sounds he used. Personally, that's what makes me like him less....They stick out and don't blend as well, at least IMO...They are good though for showing off his technique, which he has an abundance of...My preference definitely tend to go more towards Derek's organs and guitar type lead sounds(sorry, all I'm using is a Yamaha DX7, and using outboard gear for sounds...no Kurzweils or Korgs or anything fancy here...hehe So my knowledge on specific names and all is limited) They tend to blend better with the guitars, and set a better background for the music...Now, perhaps this is just the way I was brought up(with jazz, funk and blues) but I find also that the sounds are a big reason that Derek seems to get so much more in a groove(Something about an organ that just kicks ass...hehe). Now, it's just my opinion, but I like the more groove oriented DT than the "hey, we've got the best chops in the land and we're going to show it" DT...and I think Jordan would be more the latter...Also, I personally preferred the way Derek would play just straight piano sounds...he had this more jazz-fusion touch and voicings, while Jordan will be much more busy showing off his classical training....Once again, it's all personal preference...
Also, I've been reading the Spock's Beard thing, haven't heard them yet, but I did buy Day for Night, just haven't opened it yet, I am encouraged hearing that it has some good harmonies and isn't as much a metal type album...I'll be listening to it soon....One album that I just recently got was Black Light Syndrome, damn that album was incredible, especially Duende...Wish more of the album was like that...hehe....Finally I got to see why people raved about Bozzio...:)
np: Dave Matthews Band "Live at Red Rocks"
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:34:56 -0700 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Puff the Bearded Dragon Message-ID: <376DEB20.340B4536@ucla.edu>
> 2) Amanda will attend her first Beard show yelling, 'Hey!!!!! Play 'Puff > the Magic Dragon'!!!!!' Her request will go unanswered. Ha, not likely. I actually was gonna see SB here in Hollywood, even though I don't like em much, until the tour got canceled. i mean, I went to see Fate's Warning, and King's X and Galactic Cowboys not knowing who any of them were, and had a damn good time at both shows.
> How can anyone NOT consider Genesis prog Don't ask me. Every time I try to generalize music around here, I get shat upon. So I've stopped trying to say "this band is this genre".
DT content: Am I the only one who, while still loving Petrucci, wishes he would slow down once in a while? He's a phenomenal guitarist, but I think he relies on the fallacy of good=fast too much. I've been listening to LTE2 a bunch (usually in the dark, at night, before drifting off to sleep, so i don't know the song names) and there are a few totally sweet parts where he plays a bit slower, and the music is still very emotional. I wish he would do it more often, just for some variety.
~~Amanda
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:52:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Right, JP doesn't improv, but does Jordan? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990621005059.6398F-100000@otter.mbay.net>
Greetings jammers, I'm in full agreement with Madsman, that JP composes every one of his solos, but Jordan sounds like he improvs somewhat. What do ye'all think? Wellness. Matt B
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:22:10 +0300 From: "xxx" <hipodilski_@web.bg> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: RE: Bruce Skolnick Message-ID: <001c01bebbbf$2e687d60$0a06a8c0@xxx>
His name is Alex Skolnick, not Bruce. Indeed a kick-ass guitarist. Check out Savatage's "Japan Live 1994".
Victor
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 03:33:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Spock's and some other shizola Message-ID: <199906210833.DAA09419@adam.enteract.com>
> >And I'm sorry it did. This could be the worst CD I've > >ever heard in my entire life. Seriously, I was > >listening to it and all the vocal harmony and stuff > >make it sound like a Christian music CD. Bleh.
This guy has apparently been to only a very select few Christian churches, namely those in which the musicians had some control over harmony. That's not quite the norm. All sarcasm aside, using "Christian music" in that light A). is a bash at several DT songs, and B). is an attack on Christians if you're using it as a derogatory remark. So yeah, I back whoever called you an asshole or whatever you were called. Fuckhead. :)
> I'm not supposed to post something simply b/c some > people don't agree with what I have to say? Heh. Oh, > can you hear that? That's the sound of my knees > shaking. No really, it is. I promise. Whatever. Loser. No, but you're certainly not supposed to make religious attacks on this list. That happens to be on the list rules... but don't worry, we all break rules. Like me, now, I'm calling you a fuckhead.
Lisa > If you haven't totally given up on the Beard yet, you might want to check > out The Light... you just might like it better than Day for Night. In fact,
The Light is lighter than DfN. Be forewarned (though I think both albums are equally awesome).
Amanda > songs. I've come to the conclusion that I just don't like prog, except > for Genesis if you consider that prog.
Don't worry, Amanda... there is room in this world for all kinds... even "metal tards." :)
> From: "Brandon Vaughn" <bvaughn@snowhill.com> > Subject: Jordan's lead sound > > I don't think he is against any of it. But most of these keyboard players > today don't seem too interested in using "old school" sounds anymore. If > they did, number priority would be for Dream Theater to use Mellotrons!!! > The lame attempt on FII is pathetic (not their fault, probably Shirley's or > Derek's fault).
Derek was one of "them" during FII, remember? What was the "lame attempt" though?
> But I don't necessarily think this is bad. Each one of these guys is > pressing forward with their own voice. I noticed in LTE2 that Petrucci has > an Eventide harmonizer in his rack now.
Did you notice via picture or via gear list? Because I don't think he had one in the LTE vids (which I believe are post recording phase on LTE2) and I am almost positive I didn't see one in the holiday show rack. NBD, but just curious, because the Lex and the T.C. stuff can do similar effects... I don't know why he would add an Eventide.
> What if on the next album, his > whole sound changed around that instrument? (It totally changed Vai.)
No it didn't. It just facilitated some of what he used to do via multitracking. Vai has always sounded like Vai to me, from the Zappa, to the PiL to the Reckless Fable to the current stuff. I think it's a traceable progression in sound.
> Well, I guess we will get used to it. I personally still favor the guitar > sound off of I&W. I think Awake sounds "better" to some because of the way > it was recorded, and the fact the Petrucci's chops were so much improved by
Actually, I think I read somewhere that he said he never had an opportunity to really experiment with sounds and stuff until Awake.... but that could be about touring rigs, so I dunno. Yes, though there's a ridiculous improvement in technique between the I & W tour and the Awake tour. No doubt there.
> I really like Jordan's lead sounds. They are more like Kevin's type sound.
Please consider what you're saying. Kevin's leads were mostly of the DW8000 variety. I don't see how you could say that they sound remotely similar to the Kurz stuff... but that's up to your ears I guess.
> And the classical piano in the mix . . . wow! To me it is like Kevin left > the band, went and studied classical piano for 12 hours a day, and came back > into the band.
Yeah, like 15 years later, after getting some classical chops PERIOD. Technique wise, comparing KM or Derek to Jordan is like comparing Van Halen to Vinnie Moore. At least in the technique department, we're talking running CIRCLES around the competition.
> But you'll probably learn to love Jordan (and his sounds). I felt that I > would never like FII because of Derek's lead sounds. I used to skip past > songs that featured him heavily. But I eventually grew to like it.
I was a Jordan fan before I was a DT fan. I was listening to Rudess as a kid, before DT were called Dream Theater. > Like you said, it is a matter of taste more than anything else. I'm sure, > I'm probably alone in my opinions anyway . . .
Totally agreed though.
> he's only known to have said anything once on LiT. But as a bassplayer I > (and hopefully everyone else on this list) find him absolutely > arse-kickingly amazing. Therefore all that we can say about him is the
Hmm. No comment, so everyone can be smiley.
> IMO JM is actually the greatest musician in DT...not that the other guys are > bad or anything...the other guys are excellent but JM is just a nudge > better.
WOWOWOW... how do you come to this conclusion? The E.T. finger "Econony of motion is nothing to me" technique? The complete inability to take a meaningful solo? The guy is an excellent songwriter, and a good bassist in the "behind the band" sense, but the only time he meaningfully takes the center is Metropolis, and only for like... a second. He's a good bassist, but he's sloppy, has probably improved the least out of all the members since I&W and is WAY overrated on the Stick (which he'd probably admit since he's rather new to it). I could name 10 bassists off the top of my head who I think are leaps and bounds beyond him (and I have in past threads of this nature). No offense to any of you pedestal pushers out there.
> BTW: does Mike Portnoy have EADGBE???
He very well may own a guitar somewhere in his house. Is that what you mean? Why? - Chris
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:16:35 +0930 From: "Samah" <woolcock@camtech.net.au> To: "YtseJam Mailing List" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: WDADU Cover Message-ID: <004701bebbc2$aa136580$07646464@shane>
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Nope, not on mine.
(my 2 cents for the year - i'll just shrivel back into my hole) Samah
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:10:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: More of my trash Message-ID: <199906210910.EAA12678@adam.enteract.com>
> Actually, if I remember from all those clinics that I saw Jordan > play at, the Kurzweil has a ribbon strip above the keyboard for just that > cool thing. He plays the opening seconds of Don't Look Down (from the
He has like... a 2 foot long ribbon controller on his board, and I know there's a version of the board that also has an X Y pad too (like a multidirectional ribbon controller). A ribbon controller is just something that sends a midi or system message. You can theoretically do a lot of what it can do using a mod wheel (which has no other purpose on your instrument anyways, because fake vibrato is for R & B bands, not prog keyboardists).
> From: Ryan Good <rtgood@students.wisc.edu> > Subject: jimbojorda@aol.com > > WOW- > Jimbo...take a cold shower. You seem to have a hang-up or > something. Do you defend yourself and your beliefs alot? You seem to have > your lecture memorized word for word. Nice job. When are your office > hours? Will the philosophy exam be multiple choice or essay? > Man, all I was sayin' was this: If some "fucker" is standing next > to me talking shit about a band that I like, I'm going to ask him to get up > on stage and do it himself. Not do it better than anyone, but to shut the > hell up and give credit when credit is due. I doubt anyone who knocks Dream
And doing this would prove what? So if you can't go up on stage and blow Eddie Vedder and Stone Gossard out of the water, you lose the right to say "I hate Pearl Jam. Their vocals are obnoxious, their lyrics trite, and their guitars are sloppy and cliche."? I don't see how you can say this. It sounds to me like you have a problem with people disagreeing with you. :) I don't know anyone like that, personally. "My mom always told me there was always one weirdo on every bus. I never saw him." Another problem with this logic is that it would require me to LEARN Pearl Jam songs in order to knock them... I don't have the spare 12 minutes it would take to master their catalog, so I am sure I'll just have to put on a flannel and get stoned and crowd surf with a bunch of jocks who really know how to rock, baybay! (and yes, I'm being a dick) If you don't like people using "logic" in an argument against you, then you should probably just not argue, man.
> >What you cannot say for example is "it needs > >more butter" unless you are experienced in cooking. People make the mistake > >of thinking those are the same things. When you appreciate something as a > >listener it is different than when you critic things as a musician. They are > >NOT EQUAL. > > Thanks for speaking for me!!
So if I hand you a plate full of shit, fresh out of my dog's arse, and you eat it and say "Man, this tastes like Bombay Vinaloo! Get that away from me!" you're unable to say that it's "Bad" because you don't know how to make dog shit taste good? (hint: ketchup) That's not what this guy was saying anyways, Ryan. It's nice to let people speak for you, but bad to twist what they're saying into a pile of bullshit (dogshit is okay though.) > From: Compadre32@aol.com > Subject: Bruce Skolnick > > I am a HUGE fan of Testament....ive always admired the exceptional playing > ability of former lead guitarist Bruce Skolnick. Ok...i was surfing around > on the web aimlessly one night and saw a link to a "Bruce Skolnick solo > project" website. I went totally apeshit. What i wanted to know is if any > fellow jammerz had heard any of his solo material and if so, is it worth > checking out. ive yet to find mp3 samples of any of his stuff either. I > heard that his new stuff is very different than Testament, with a more jazzy > feel. I am actually looking foward to hearing this fusion of speed metal and > jazz. (if thats what it is)
Oh MAN, Bruce is fucking WICKED. You should check out his playing on "Born in the USA" and on Rick Springfield's album "They Call Me Bruce." Totally wicked! Could you post the URL to the Bruce Skolnick web site? /me is just having a little fun. No hard feelings. :)
> From: Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com> > Subject: Jordan and Kurzweil Lead Sounds > > There is NOTHING that one of those K2500s will not do. As much as I > would like a Trinity myself, if you really want to dig into it, then Kurz > will chew up the Trinity and spit it out. It has a ribbon controller, a
Simple task for you, then. Play the LitS intro without sampling Derek. Play the "attack of the electronic elephant" sound in the middle of ACoS without sampling Derek. Play through any song on Planet X with your Kurzweil. :) Give me a break. The Kurz is a more powerful board (it's basically a computer) but without the samples, the only real winner on that thing IMO is the Piano and some of the orchestral sounds. The Trinity will always sound better as a lead player's board to me, over a K2500 (and I'm not biased by owning either, unfortunately).
> So, as much as I would like a Trinity (or better yet the new Triton), > don't you dare tell me that there's something my dear Kurz can't do. :)
This may be a protective sentiment (or a joke, considering the smiley) so that you feel you made the best investment, and you may well have, for your tastes, but isn't that like the same thing as someone coming on here and saying "I can sound exactly the same as your 7 string and do anything it can do, with my 6 string tuned down to B"? It's a nice attempt, and some things can be done similarly, but it's easily proven false. The Kurz is not like buying a board with a Trinity inside, hiding in a corner, waiting to be released one day when someone realizes that there are actually good lead sounds on it. :) - Chris
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