YTSEJAM Digest 4714
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Forget Gypsy Kings / Paco is Da Man
by TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
2) Old font question
by MentalHunk@aol.com
3) re: uh oh
by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
4) re: Friday Night in SF
by "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com>
5) Strunz and Farah Story(LTE Content)
by "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
6) Re: DT tribute
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
7) Looking for a show
by Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4713
by ANGELO LOMBARDI <angelo13@home.com>
9) Most Frequent Poster lists!
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@globalxs.nl>
10) Re: Most Frequent Poster lists!
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
11) Re: Most Frequent Poster lists!
by Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com>
12) Re: Damn the Machine
by lerxst@pop.erols.com
13) Check this out... actual DTC, sorta.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
14) Re: NDTC: Damn the Machine/DT In NC?
by Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net>
15) New DT CD news (fwd)
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
16) Re: New DT CD news (fwd)
by DragynLMC3@aol.com
17) YtseJam on Drums mp3
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
18) DTM/Poland
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
19) Oh where oh where has the ProGtologist gone...?
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:36:55 -0500 (EST)
From: TheCowGod <demccor@clemson.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Forget Gypsy Kings / Paco is Da Man
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990301103300.17805D-100000@hubcap.clemson.edu>
i don't believe i've seen em mentioned, so i'll throw in a name: Strunz &
Farah. Ok, two names. these dudes kick ass at flamenco guitar. Jorge
Strunz and Ardeshir Farah - one is (i believe) american and the other is
from (don't kill me for this generalization) the middle east, i'm not sure
what country (guess which is which :). sorry, i'm just not up on my strunz
& farah trivia :) anyways, back when i was basically strictly a metalhead
and listened to joe satriani and steve vai simply to go "listen to that!
that's fast!", my friend gave me a copy of Primal Magic (that he stole
from his mom, hehe) saying check these guys out, they can shred as fast as
the dudes you listen to on an ACOUSTIc. so i checked it out and fell down,
and then once i got into the musical part of music and not just the
technical, i realized their songs are good too. check them out. moo.
--"You are what you eat, you fucking cannibal!" -- KorgX3
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:58:54 EST From: MentalHunk@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Old font question Message-ID: <3d626d14.36dab93e@aol.com>
I was wondering if anyone knew of a website with the old style Dream Theater font going up and down, rather than left to right....I want a jpg, gif, or bmp of the old style font going up/down so I can make some cassette covers...my program won't let me rotate it....Any help would be greatly appreciated ! Private e-mail, preferably....
Tom
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 08:53:07 PST From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: re: uh oh Message-ID: <19990301165307.15815.qmail@hotmail.com>
>ROCK TOP 10: > >1 - LIQUID TENSION EXPERIMENT >2 - DREAM THEATER >3 - RUSH >etc. >etc.
oh shit.. not this again
inferno
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:17:31 PST From: "Isaac Trumbo" <inferno_one@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: re: Friday Night in SF Message-ID: <19990301171731.28746.qmail@hotmail.com>
>If you want real Spanish / Flamenco guitars check Paco De Lucia, >Segovia. I dunno how good it to recomend Friday Night in SF >since this is the shred of the century, and person really can't >get into the whole flamenco vibe out of it! > >:)-- CyberDuke
that's cause mclaughlin and dimeola don't have a flamenco vibe :).. they're the biggest, baddest jazz monsters ever!! paco definately gives the trio a latin feel, but it's not exactly flaminco.. but that's besides the point because Friday Night in SF kicks ass!! also their newest release "the guitar trio" i like almost as much..
inferno
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:52:22 -0500 From: "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Strunz and Farah Story(LTE Content) Message-ID: <007201be640c$42cbf300$0200005a@Kez>
>i don't believe i've seen em mentioned, so i'll throw in a name: Strunz & >Farah. Ok, two names. these dudes kick ass at flamenco guitar. Jorge >Strunz and Ardeshir Farah - one is (i believe) american and the other is >from (don't kill me for this generalization) the middle east, i'm not sure >what country (guess which is which :). sorry, i'm just not up on my strunz >& farah trivia :) anyways, back when i was basically strictly a metalhead >and listened to joe satriani and steve vai simply to go "listen to that! >that's fast!", my friend gave me a copy of Primal Magic (that he stole >from his mom, hehe) saying check these guys out, they can shred as fast as >the dudes you listen to on an ACOUSTIc. so i checked it out and fell down, >and then once i got into the musical part of music and not just the >technical, i realized their songs are good too. check them out. moo.
This is pretty funny. Strunz and Farah were originally scheduled to play at the TLA in Philly on the night that LTE ended up playing. There were a few people in line before the show who had not gotten the word, so we had to give them the bad news, though there were two guys who had heard of Dream Theater, and so we told them if they liked guitar, they might want to stick around. They ended up staying for the whole show, had a kickass time, and even hung around out front waiting for the guys after. Only catch was, they paid $32 to see the same show that I saw for $17. I think they still got their money's worth. :)
Kez
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:01:01 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: DT tribute Message-ID: <199903012001.MAA16441@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Steffen Barabasch thus begged: > >>Now WHAT is interesting then, you shmuck?? > >I can imagine a lot of more interesting things, like DT being in the >studio, the release of LTE 2, stuff like that. > >I don't need a whole album of uninspired DT covers. I like cover versions >as long as the covering artist creates something new without losing the >respect for the original. Most of these bands weren't able to do something >new on their *own* albums, and I don't believe they suddenly start being >original.
I'll have to agree with Steffan, a DT tribute is just fucking lame... half those bands are DT clones... so hearing them try to do DT songs as perfectly as possible is not that interesting... now if you had bands like Corrossion of Conformity, Sevendust, Fear Factory, Slayer or something doing DT covers, THAT might be interesting... or even bands like Spock's Beard, King Crimson (hahahah, DT should be doing KC covers)...
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 17:06:35 -0500 From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Looking for a show Message-ID: <36DB0F6A.D3EC633B@ic3.ithaca.edu>
Does anyone have this DT show on tape? 10-2-92 - Ithaca, NY
Email me privately.
~chris
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 18:11:53 -0500 From: ANGELO LOMBARDI <angelo13@home.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4713 Message-ID: <36DB1EB9.D74087C@home.com>
> >Just perusing through my CD's to find something that I haven't > >listened to recently (just bought a new CD player, finally), and came > >across the CD "Damn the Machine" by the same band. At first I > >thought, "what the hell is this?" So I opened up the case and saw the > >name Chris Poland. Then the cogs and wheels in my head started > >spinning, then it hit me, "oh yeah! He used to be in Megadeth!!" So > >I popped it in, still not able to recall what it sounded like. Boy > >was I surprised!!! It kicks some serious ass!!!! Anyone remember > >this one/have any info on them? Are they still together and releasing > >new music? Are they still the same? I can't believe I forgot about > >this one. It will get played a lot now!!!
Would ANYBODY know where I can find this CD??? I have been looking for it for years. I have Chris Poland's "Return To Metalopolis" CD and it kicks ass. But I can not find Damn the Machine ANYWHERE here in Philadelphia.
Angelo
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:50:42 +0100 From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net>, "Freaks mailinglist" <freaks@axnet.net> Subject: Most Frequent Poster lists! Message-ID: <7726C76B14C6.AAA41BD@Iguanodon.big-orange.net>
Yup, the new MFP lists are up again...
Freaks mailinglist:
http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/
Ytsejam mailinglist:
http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/indexdt.htm
To the lucky "winners" of this month's MFP lists, I only have the following to say: It's quality that counts, not quantity!
:-)
Mark Bredius _______________________________________________________ Under A Cyber Moon - The Official Dream Theater Website http://www.dreamtheater.net/ E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org *** Join the FREE weekly Dream Theater newsletter ! *** Send email to <uacm-subscribe@egroups.com> to subscribe
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 17:01:55 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Most Frequent Poster lists! Message-ID: <199903020101.RAA21524@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., "Mark Bredius" thus begged: > > > Yup, the new MFP lists are up again... > > Freaks mailinglist: > > http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/ > > Ytsejam mailinglist: > > http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/indexdt.htm > > To the lucky "winners" of this month's MFP lists, I only > have the following to say: It's quality that counts, not > quantity! >
That guy on the top of the list has got one fucking big mouth, he should shut the hell up...
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:26:37 -0500 From: Frank Benenati <fmb@frontierlogic.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Most Frequent Poster lists! Message-ID: <36DB3E4D.CA56A71D@frontierlogic.com>
"Dr. Mosh" wrote: > > > That guy on the top of the list has got one fucking big mouth, he should > shut the hell up... > > -The Doc
"I say, rise up and stab him with your plastic forks....."
-mojoman
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 22:15:26 +0000 From: lerxst@pop.erols.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Damn the Machine Message-ID: <199903020307.WAA27462@smtp1.erols.com>
Remember them, I burned more than a few tanks of gas looking for it the day it came out! I have been a Chris Poland fan since the first time I saw Megadeth in Trenton N.J. and passed out during the opening band. And the second time I saw them in Brooklyn, NY at LaMore(sp?) when his stack caught fire. Not real good reasons to like a musician, but I certainly will never forget each experience! I will also never forget seeing DTM open up for Voi Vod in Philly. There were about 25 people in the Trocodaro. Three of us in front of the stage. It was kind of a shame because no one was into them. But it was also kinda cool. Anyway, yes that CD does rule! As does his solo CD before DTM. It was called Return to Metopolis. A MUST HAVE ! ! ! A friend sent me some info about a new band Chris is in. It called OHM. You can get more info at www.thuntek.net/~rich/ohm/index.html There is some RealAudio clips on that page, and they sound very cool.
Also, my first DT show was the Philly show just after x-mas last year. I stood next to a couple that had been into DT for several years. One of the bands we talked about was DTM. The guy said that he had a promo CD from DTM which had some unreleased stuff on it. If any one has this and is in a position to make a CD-R or wants to trade, PLEASE email me.
> Just perusing through my CD's to find something that I haven't listened to > recently (just bought a new CD player, finally), and came across the CD > "Damn the Machine" by the same band. At first I thought, "what the hell is > this?" So I opened up the case and saw the name Chris Poland. Then the > cogs and wheels in my head started spinning, then it hit me, "oh yeah! He > used to be in Megadeth!!" So I popped it in, still not able to recall what > it sounded like. Boy was I surprised!!! It kicks some serious ass!!!! > Anyone remember this one/have any info on them? Are they still together and > releasing new music? Are they still the same? I can't believe I forgot > about this one. It will get played a lot now!!!
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:59:17 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Check this out... actual DTC, sorta. Message-ID: <004d01bd44ce$cf1a9720$690d84d0@yoda-q--jedi>
>"I say, rise up and stab him with your plastic forks....."
Which one? Mosh or Itchy? :)
BTW, I >think< I have a very legitimate DT-related question to ask. Yes, the perveyor of all ytse-knowledge is lacking on current events, so rape me with a garden weasel...
Question: Who is producing the new album?
I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. :P I just read somewhere they were recording at Bear Tracks... Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that where they recorded I&W? Back to basics? :) As long as they aren't working with Prater again.... :P Those drums... those DRUMS! They drive me MAD!!!!
Anyway. Just thought I'd ask, so if anyone would care to enlighten me, please feel free. Light Bulb enemas are, as always, optional. -- KorgX3 thinks the new album should be called, "Cauliflower Testicles." NP: Windows NT 4.0 Installer
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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 08:27:19 +0300 From: Peter Tatischev <tatisch@null.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: NDTC: Damn the Machine/DT In NC? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990302082719.009213f0@messagebox.com>
>Just perusing through my CD's to find something that I haven't listened to >recently (just bought a new CD player, finally), and came across the CD >"Damn the Machine" by the same band. At first I thought, "what the hell is >this?" So I opened up the case and saw the name Chris Poland. Then the >cogs and wheels in my head started spinning, then it hit me, "oh yeah! He >used to be in Megadeth!!" So I popped it in, still not able to recall what >it sounded like. Boy was I surprised!!! It kicks some serious ass!!!! >Anyone remember this one/have any info on them? Are they still together and >releasing new music? Are they still the same? I can't believe I forgot >about this one. It will get played a lot now!!! > Hmmm... Chris Poland... Never knew he ever was in Megadeth (I'm not much of a fan of them), but I definetely heard of Chris Poland. He's the head of the recording company, called EclipseRecords now (www.eclipserecords.com) - they do thrash-death-doom kinda stuff, I own a CD by a band called Cipher that was released in Eclipse -nothing really outstanding, but overall it's a really nice CD, slight resemblance to Bruce Dickinson...
hope this helps a bit, ~Peter ========================================================== The maintainer of the YtseJamCD Project site: http://www.glasnet.ru/~tatisch/Ytze IRC: Hammman ICQ:425-8962 ===========================================================
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:32:56 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net> To: YtseJelly <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: New DT CD news (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.4.10.9903020031100.12658-100000@viking.cris.com>
For those of you who missed it the first time (Korgx3):
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:01:33 -0800 (PST) ]From: Portnoy420@aol.com Reply-To: ytsejam@ax.com To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New DT CD news
We will begin work on the new Dream Theater CD this coming week.... We will begin writing and recording on Monday, Feb. 8th 1999 at Bear Tracks Studios in Suffern, NY with engineer Doug Oberkirker. (same studio and engineer as I&W, Live at the Marquee and ACOS....)
We will self-produce (with a mixer TBA) and spontaniously write & record (ala LTE). (The big difference will be that we will have 2-3 months to do it, instead of 1-2 weeks.)
Recording will probably last through to May, as we will take March off for the birth of my son......
We are very excited to begin the latest chapter of DT history and begin "the Jordan era".....
The music will be all new and freshly written material...
For everybody inquiring about Metropolis Pt. 2: the only comment I will give is that we hope to be able to incorporate it, but if we do, it will definately be different from the version we wrote with Derek as we want to have a fresh start with Jordan....
This is all I will comment on it for quite a while, so spread the word.......
Mike Portnoy
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 01:12:13 EST From: DragynLMC3@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: New DT CD news (fwd) Message-ID: <4feb001.36db813d@aol.com>
Rick reposted: > ]From: Portnoy420@aol.com > Subject: New DT CD news
WOW!!! damn, thank you for reposting this, I hadn't even the slightest clue as to this. Whats really awesome to my mind is that i grew up right near suffern. HEHEHE ok, I'm getting over it... later. anyway, have there been any updates or what? wow well that cheered me up from a bad mood! :}
~Lisa
DragynLMC3@aol.com "May you have an interesting life" ~chinese curse my page~> http://members.aol.com/dragynlmc3/index.html If people listened to themselves more often, they would talk less.
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 22:25:03 -0800 From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: YtseJam on Drums mp3 Message-ID: <009901be6475$6a84ec80$8cadd6d0@multimedia>
i just uploaded an 'YtseJam' mp3 at my site. Its only drums though if any are interested.
peace, --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com mail@jamesthorpe.com
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:02:55 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: DTM/Poland Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA0F3D1A@ms.kallback.com>
> >"Damn the Machine" by the same band. At first I thought, "what the > hell is > >this?" So I opened up the case and saw the name Chris Poland. Then > the > >cogs and wheels in my head started spinning, then it hit me, "oh > yeah! He > >used to be in Megadeth!!" So I popped it in, still not able to > recall what > >it sounded like. Boy was I surprised!!! It kicks some serious ass!!!! > >Anyone remember this one/have any info on them? Are they still > together and > >releasing new music? Are they still the same? I can't believe I > forgot > >about this one. It will get played a lot now!!! > Killer album, unfortunately, they aren't together anymore, and haven't > been, > for roughly 3 years Also check out Chris Poland's "Return to Metalopolis", now back in print and available at CDNow. Trevor
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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 04:39:49 -0600 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Oh where oh where has the ProGtologist gone...? Message-ID: <36DBBFF5.182FEAF9@isd.net>
Howdy!
It took me over two hours to get caught up on the jams.. Whew! I've been busy building another kick ass pair of speakers. I have all the components and am 70% finished constructing the cabinets. The thinnest wood I'm using is 1"! Fucking heavy though. The main cabinets are going to be about 135 lb. each, empty! The satellite cabinets will weigh about 40 lb. each loaded and finished.
I'm using a digital camera to illustrate this project and I plan on placing the plans & photographs on my web page shortly after I have them finished and tested.
The material costs are going to be about $1735.00 This includes the cost of having a cabinet shop do all the critical cutting. This does not include the exterior finishing. (You could just paint them) I'm going to veneer mine in a dark cherry wood and finish them with a high gloss. I also am going to have a slate top on the main cabinets. The slate will be recessed into the top and be resting on a gel mat. The satellite cabinets will be using an MTM (D'Appolito) dual midrange configuration, with the tweeter sandwiched between the midrange drivers. Killer imaging! The reason for the slate-over-gel top is to isolate the satellite cabinets from vibration, they will be placed on top of the mains. The slate-over-gel is optional. I've been quoted $500.00 for the cut-to-order slate tops. The gel pads are cheap. This in NOT included in the $1700.00 minimum cost.
I know $1700.00 sounds like a ton to spend on a DIY project, however, to purchase a similar commercially manufactured speaker system it would set you back at least $6500.00. I warn you though, it will take over 100 hours to build these. Isn't that half the fun? The rewards are priceless...
Anyway... On to the Jam.
Where do I start?
1st Fates Warning: Get EVERYTHING from "No Exit" on... You could skip Chasing Time... I have a sneaking suspicion you will eventually own everything from the post Arch era Fates. With that in mind... save some gas money and make one trip for all! I started with APSoG & Parallels. I now have everything (post Arch) including Chasing Time. They all get regular rotation, but APSoG and No Exit get VERY regular play. "The Ivory Gate of Dreams" (No Exit) RoCkS mY wOrLd!
On the topic of DT playing at that Jammer's wedding... I'm there dude!
What kind of toaster do you want?
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's supposed to pack an awesome buzz" --Butthead
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