YTSEJAM Digest 5213
Today's Topics:
1) Scaterd Few/bassist
by Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5212
by Stixntrixx@aol.com
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5212
by "Daniel T. Chen" <daniel_chen@unc.edu>
4) Record sales SFaM?
by "Verhoef, Pieter-Joost" <Pieter-Joost.Verhoef@nl.origin-it.com>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5212
by Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
6) Re: FII Opinions
by ToxicSheep@aol.com
7) Superior demo now available without Flash
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-saarland.de>
8) Re: Bass Extremes
by Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
9) FII, SFAM, and various ramblings(long)
by Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
10) SFAM at no. 12
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
11)
by "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
12) MachineHead
by "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
13) Napalm Death
by "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
14)
by "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
15) Re: lte
by "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com>
16) Universal Mind
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5212
by "Janne Lunnas" <janne_lunnas@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
18) Drummers, Steve. :)
by "Jeff Storck" <jtstor@hotmail.com>
19) Re: Breaking up ACOS = Sacrilege?
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
20) 99 Gallop Poll
by "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com>
21) Re: FII Opinions
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
22) Punk
by Benjamin James Gateno <bg003i@mail.rochester.edu>
23) Re: LTE sales figures...
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
24) Re: Adam's FTP Site
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
25) Advice on QR albums
by "Julien Ferrant" <julien.ferrant@hei.fupl.asso.fr>
26) Something nifty...
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
27) *DT rarities for sale*
by Bigman <martinah@csd.uwm.edu>
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:31:08 -0600
From: Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Scaterd Few/bassist
Message-ID: <19991128.203338.-1608735.1.schnapster@juno.com>
> Rock on man!!!!! I know the guy, Steve Meiggs who played bass on
Grandmother's Spaceship...
Actually, I was thinking of Scaterd Few's original bassist, Omar Domkus,
who played on Out of the Attic, Sin Disease (my personal fave Few disc),
and Jawboneofanass. I remember seeing Scaterd Few on the ...ass tour,
standing there amazed at the different and creative sounds that Omar was
getting out of his rig. I do agree that ...Spaceship just kills. Kind
of mixes the good elements of ...ass and Sin Disease. I caught the band
at Cornerstone a couple years ago. The newer members were great, though
I'm nto sure if I am really into the whole space theme. I personally
like the older ...Few image better. Anyway, for anyone interested in
checking out some very creative punk-type stuff (a lot fo weirdness
thrown in :), Scaterd Few would be a great start, if you can find their
stuff. Also, the person that replied to my original post (sorry, can't
remember the name) mentioned Spyglass Blue. Some great Bowie-esque kind
of goth (I hate that term, though) stuff.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:05:22 EST
From: Stixntrixx@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5212
Message-ID: <0.8dc8d89.25735582@aol.com>
In a message dated 99-11-28 21:09:51 EST, you write:
<<
Anyway, some people from California said that Dream Theater is extremely
popular over there, and get a lot of airplay as well. Can this be true??
After reading all about all our problems with radio-stations, recently,
I just can't imagine this is true... >>
Well, I've never heard DT on the radio here in L.A. (aside from PMU back in
the day). But on the FII tour, they did two nights at the House Of Blues,
which is pretty impressive for a band that receives no airplay in a city that
is very trend-oriented. Part of the reason that DT doesn't get any airplay
here is that we don't have a rock station, which is sad considering that at
the beginning of the decade we had two big ones (KNAC and Pirate Radio). Ah,
the good ol' days....
Richie
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Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:55:47 -0500
From: "Daniel T. Chen" <daniel_chen@unc.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5212
Message-ID: <38420753.1A42CA60@unc.edu>
Stephen LaMonica wrote:
>
> No beef taken...just checked my email in a week.....I have heard Cynic...but
> I only heard them once about 6 years ago.....I do remember Reinert sounded
> pretty good.....
Cynic is IMNSHO the best metal band that ever existed. Period. I just
finished listening to _Focus_ for the trillionth time (okay, just a
slight exaggeration, okay? ;-), and I honestly say that it is even more
impressive than the first time I heard a snippet from "Textures."
Everyone in this band is amazing... Wow, I can drone on and on, but
check the website: http://veilmaya.org/cynic/ It has not been updated
for over six months, but it still links to a plethora of pertinent
information. Oh, and Aghora is amazing, too.
Perhaps I should state why this band is my "perennial favorite."
They're technically unmatchable and have tons of "groove." There.
Additionally, they add a twist to the whole voicebox bit.
I'm *STILL* amazed...
dtc
-- Daniel T. Chen chenda@cs.unc.edu NP : Dream Theater - Bombay Vindaloo------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:31:40 +0100 From: "Verhoef, Pieter-Joost" <Pieter-Joost.Verhoef@nl.origin-it.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Record sales SFaM? Message-ID: <B13A246878CBD0118B6300805FC14755A7C1E6@nldhx001.dhajvn.nl.origin-it.com>
Hi there,
Is there ANY news about SFaM record sales? In Holland I noticed SFaM being sold in a lot of CD-shops that I wouldn't have expected (normally sell only Pop-stuff). Could this mean DT is having their expected breakthrough??
regards pj ************************** >
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:44:00 +0100 From: Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5212 Message-ID: <384220B0.AE77CA08@siol.net>
> I would like to ask a question. Lately I've downloaded a bootleg mp3 - > Metallica's Damage Inc. played by DT. Can anyone tell me who's that > growling voice ? Is he Charlie Dominici ? Can't be James !
Oh you mean Britaney Spears before MTV got her and put her voice through all the pitch shifters :)
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:46:39 EST From: ToxicSheep@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: FII Opinions Message-ID: <0.f52ec3d0.25737b4f@aol.com>
<< >I've never heard so many fussy listeners complain about various songs of an >album in all of my life!!! >>
I agree. When I first heard FII, I thought it was an incredible album. I think everyone should stop complaining and just enjoy the music. There IS progressive stuff on there too, most of which happened to be Sherinian-inspired actually. I enjoy the whole album as I do all other DT releases. It seems that people always have something to complain about instead of just finding the good in things. IMO, LitS is one of the best DT songs, and there is a certain groove on that album in songs like JLMB that make it addictive. Also, don't forget that FII is probably the easiest DT album for Joe Public to listen to...if I ever try to turn someone on to DT, I'd start with FII...it has the best of both worlds. ..but SFAM still kicks it's ass. :)
A--d--a--M
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:47:05 +0100 From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-saarland.de> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Superior demo now available without Flash Message-ID: <4.1.19991129074536.00965900@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi!
Ok, now the first part of a demo song is also available for all of you who don't have the Flash plug-in. Just follow the link at the bottom of the very first page and go to the previous site. You can find the demo in the "Samples" section.
Feedback is welcome! :)
Greetings
Bernd
---------------------------------------------------- Bernd Basmer Guitar - Superior
For info about Superior have a look at http://www.free-minded.de/ ---------------------------------------------------- It's only work if somebody makes you do it.
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:59:03 +0100 From: Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Bass Extremes Message-ID: <38422437.3E81C01C@siol.net>
Greg Kristianson kindly replied to my Q:
>> Matej,
The Bass Extremes book is put together well. It is split up into a lesson section where Steve and Vic discuss and demonstrate the techniques used in each song, and then the song section where each song is transcribed in full, with a few exceptions; vamp sections, intro solo figures, and solo accompaniments are not always scored in full, i.e. the transcriber was feeling *lazy*! I agree with what you say about Steve being the harmonic-god;his solo feature"Moonridge" kills! If you don't already have his instructional books, they are a must! He's twice the teacher as he is a player. If you want to check out Pino Palladino it will entail sitting through some pretty bad brit-pop schlock; he played on a number of albums by Paul Young and Phil Collins through the 80's and early 90's. Some quick song references: Young's "Everytime You Go Away" and Collins' "I Wish it Would Rain Down". Stellar Bassist! I'd try and check him out on the web to get a more detailed discography; I read one in Bass Player several years ago but can't remember alot of the stuff he did.
Grp <<
Thank you so much dude :) I was wondering if the book was as useful as the video and CD are. I ordered it a month ago and it still hasn't come, can't wait though :)
Regarding Pino.. I'm metacrawling through his discographies and it is getting a bit scary :) (nah.. actually I kinda dig some of this music):Don Henley,Elton John, Clapton (which songs??anyone??),Jools Holland and The Millionaires(WTF?),Paul Young, Phill Collins, Seal.. and the list goes on... what a sellout <G> :) Pretty impressive for a studio musician..can't find any of his solo (read: serious music) stuff...
Matej
NP: Bassicaly Yours, Bass Extremes
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 01:42:33 -0600 From: Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FII, SFAM, and various ramblings(long) Message-ID: <4.1.19991129010202.021f3100@mail.msy.bellsouth.net>
Well, seeing the few posts about FII finally got me to write this message. I've been a very dissapointed man for the most part his fall, except NIN surprised me with one of the best albums of the decade with The Fragile. Both of my favorite bands, Queensryche and Dream Theater, have very much dissapointed me. Queensryche puts out an album with 10 copies of the same song, i mean, that album has no variety in tempos, textures, nothing. The 1st two songs are okay, but the rest, is dreadful. Now, on to DT, and, well, SFAM sounds exactly like what I feared it would sound like with Jordan on keyboards. I know there are alot of fans of his here, but I'm not one of them. He does okay on LTE1, but on LTE2 i didn't care for him as much, and with DT, he's nowhere. He has no soul, no groove, and I cringe everytime I hear him try to solo. His sound choices are dreadful in several spots, they sound so FAKE(yeah, i know, it really is fake, but i hope you know what i mean, i can't describe it right.) Derek had the ability to really rock, and it showed on FII and ACOS. KevMo could too, but he was alot more laidback with it, and I think of all the guys he is the one who could have made SFAM great. Now, I give DT credit for making a fan's album, this is what alot of people have been crying for since Met. 1 was on Images and Words, and they've also been crying for a concept album. I admire DT for their efforts, but IMO, they didn't succeed. I know alot of people here subscribe to the theory that anything that is musically accessible is bad, but I'm not that way, and I don't find this album to be accessible at all. I've listened to it all the way through 3 times, and I couldn't walk away any of those times remembering a single thing I heard. It was like one big jumbled up blob in my head. I mean, I've read what many of you have said about FII and that having "songs" means selling out trying to make a hit, but I'm sorry, IMO there has to be some base to the music, I mean, the greatest concept albums of all time (The Wall, Operation Mindcrime, even other solid but not legendary ones such as APSOG) all have some kind of recognizable songs in them. You walk away, singing the songs, fingering the licks in it, it made some kind of musical impression. I'll give Labrie, Portnoy, and Petrucci credit, they played their asses off, but it just sounds like them jamming while Labrie sings a long newspaper article or something. Myung I can't hear most of the time, he's not mixed near as well as he was in FII, and like I said before, Jordan, while the kid is talented, does not belong in a rock band, he belongs in a progressive group like Renaissance or in a classical concert hall. NOT in DT, he turns them into a band full of Yngwie's...as for the story, i haven't had the patience to figure it out, maybe one day i will. One thing I did like, was the use of the chorus, it's a branching out that I'd like to see more of from them. As for the talk about FII, I really don't have any problems with it, in fact, it's definitely my favorite album of theirs. Why??? because Derek rocks his ass off, he grooves so much and drives the band so well. I also love the songs on the album. LitS, ToT, TAMP, HK, PS, NM, JLMB, all are great songs. And LitS and ToT were very much "prog" type songs but I could still walk away remembering the songs, their words, and their music. The album was excellently produced IMO as well. I don't care if it had more "hit-potential" songs on the album. Very many prog (and jazz) fans seem to think that they have to be on a pedestal and feel better than everyone, and don't want anyone else listening to the same thing they are. I'm not that way, I want people to listen to better stuff than Puff Daddy and the Backdoor Boys. I'd love for more people to dig DT, and that doesn't make them a worse band. Popular is not always bad. Now, I haven't been reading the Jam lately, in fact, I haven't since the gag rule was implemented on this list regarding the new album, and I just now read about two jams back. I'll say this, probably if I would have heard some people slamming the album, I would have gone in with much lower expectations and maybe not have come out so dissapointed. But, the past is past. Well, I'm sure I've pissed alot of people off with this message, but oh well, it's an album that I'm dissapointed about, and I'm curious to see what reaction I get.
np: Nine Inch Nails "The Fragile-Right"
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:39:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SFAM at no. 12 Message-ID: <49687e487dgraham@picsel.com>
ReSent-From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> ReSent-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Metal Hammer magazine here in the UK has placed SFAM in 12th place in its "Top 20 albums of 1999" feature.
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:53:45 +0100 From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Message-ID: <F999CB08F9C7D21195E30008C70D3506CC4463@julia.um.be>
>would be it. Overall I give SFAM an A just like Awake. I&W gets the A+ >despite the production and same with ACOS for that matter.
I could agree on the ACOS production, but totally not for I 1 W. I am not a sound engineer, but sounds really well IMHO. Not sure it was at Bear Tracks (I think it was...) and I think I remember that DT recorded ACOS at Bear Tracks to recall the sound / spirit / atmosphere of I & W. So that would mean that DT themselves liked the I & W production...
HeinV
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:14:49 +0100 From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: MachineHead Message-ID: <F999CB08F9C7D21195E30008C70D3506CC4464@julia.um.be>
Try their first one, Burn My Eyes. The two others are not as good IMVHO.
HeinV
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:52:17 +0100 From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Napalm Death Message-ID: <F999CB08F9C7D21195E30008C70D3506CC4466@julia.um.be>
<I would like to ask a question. Lately I've downloaded a bootleg mp3 - <Metallica's Damage Inc. played by DT. Can anyone tell me who's that <growling voice ? Is he Charlie Dominici ? Can't be James !
You must be joking... It is Mark Greenway (Barney) from Napalm Death... Charlie Dominici could never do that IMVHO. They play death metal, grind-core, whatever name you want to give to that noise ! Nevertheless, check them out, maybe you'll like them, I don't.
HeinV
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:02:26 +0100 From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Message-ID: <F999CB08F9C7D21195E30008C70D3506CC4468@julia.um.be>
<wish ACoS had been broken out myself. I always love to peel Innocense and <Carpe Diem away and make them a standalone track on DT comp. CD's I make for
Strange... I really prefer these pieces together as a whole, as was intended to be...
HeinV
PS. Braking the song up into pieces would reaaly be some kind of sacrilege...
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 06:12:30 -0500 From: "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: lte Message-ID: <001101bf3a5a$a1b62640$ab21f7a5@pbcustomer>
<<<Punk fans???? LTE (and prog in general) is everything that punk isn't! Either you have some very openminded punk friends, or you really need to explain them what punk is... <<<
It's funny that he mentioned punk fans, because I went to a small communications school in Boston for a year, and in my advanced recordings class, there was this punk dude that liked LTE.
~~Art
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:24:44 CET From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Universal Mind Message-ID: <19991129112444.99978.qmail@hotmail.com>
well, if i remember correctly they did play it until the piano thing (as transition to JR's solo) in Hamburg and Hannover.
seb
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:29:57 +0200 From: "Janne Lunnas" <janne_lunnas@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5212 Message-ID: <199911290426131@janne_lunnas.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
Hi, I'm a quite new Jammer from Finland, my name is Janne Lunnas and I play guitar and am a BIG fan of DT and progressive rock/metal.
>Hi =A0DT fans !! >I would like to ask a question. =A0Lately I've downloaded a bootleg mp= 3 >-Metallica's Damage Inc. played by DT. =A0Can anyone tell me who's th= at >growling voice ? =A0Is he Charlie Dominici ? =A0Can't be James !
He's not Charlie or James -he's Napalm Death's lead singer whose name I can't remember. It's very funny version of Damage inc. if you ask me.=
Janne L
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:56:35 EST From: "Jeff Storck" <jtstor@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Drummers, Steve. :) Message-ID: <19991129125635.34915.qmail@hotmail.com>
>From: Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu>
>No beef taken...just checked my email in a week.....I have heard > >Cynic...but I only heard them once about 6 years ago.....I do >remember >Reinert sounded pretty good.....
Cool, but you should check out Gordian Knot then, if you haven't. Sean Malone was Cynic's bassist on "Focus" and has gotten together with Reinert and Jarzombek, Trey Gunn, Alex? Snelwar (or close to that.. never heard of the guy before this album) and even a guest appearance by our own John Myung! You can get it from Laser's Edge, and it's DEFINATELY worth the $25 or whatever it is for the Japanese import, for those bonus tracks. :)
Jeff
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:42:31 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Breaking up ACOS = Sacrilege? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911290840480.78780-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Vandenabeele, Hein wrote:
> PS. Braking the song up into pieces would reaaly be some kind of > sacrilege...
Oh, you mean like DT did in their tour? Yeah, I always thought the world was going to end whenever they stopped playing it on the beginning of OIALT. Honestly... They did it themselves; how bad can you really think it is?
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:19:17 +0100 From: "Gallop, Neil" <Neil.Gallop@softwareag.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: 99 Gallop Poll Message-ID: <C23163F98473D311874C0008C7E62107E788A9@daemsg02.software-ag.de>
Hi all
December is nearly upon us, and it's time to start the annual Ytsejam "top 10 albums of the year" poll. Once again, I'm offering to run the poll and publish the results (I'm just too nice for this world, sometimes).
OK, here's what I require from those of you who wish to participate. Simply send me a list, in any order, of your favourite 10 releases in 1999. Please send the lists to me personally, not to the Ytsejam mailing list. And please note that I mean 1999 as the year of release, not the year that you may have discovered something. Each album mentioned will get one point, and the band with the most points from everybody wins - simple, huh?
I'm already willing to place bets on the positions 1 and 2, but after that, everything could be wide open. I like looking lower down in the final list, because I often hear about stuff I missed out on during the year.
The poll is open as of now, and will close at midnight on the 31st of December. I'll post the results as soon as possible in the new year. Get thinking...
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (neil.gallop@softwareag.com) Currently playing: UNIDA - Coping With The Urban Coyote (a hot candidate on my list)
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:05:21 -0600 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: FII Opinions Message-ID: <2.2.32.19991129150521.0162d800@pi-r-squared.com>
> I agree. When I first heard FII, I thought it was an incredible album. >I think everyone should stop complaining and just enjoy the music. There IS >progressive stuff on there too, most of which happened to be >Sherinian-inspired actually. I enjoy the whole album as I do all other DT >releases. It seems that people always have something to complain about >instead of just finding the good in things. IMO, LitS is one of the best DT >songs, and there is a certain groove on that album in songs like JLMB that >make it addictive.
Hmm... why is it, on this list, that everyone time someone likes an album, they find it necessary to go out of their way to point out how "anal" and "picky" the people who don't like it are? Did it ever, even for a second, occur to you that there may actually be... *gasp* people who HONESTLY DISLIKE FII? Just a thought... but then, that word and the Jam are rarely, if ever, associated aren't they.
By the way, IMO, the definition of a "bad album" or a "negative review" is when the BAD OUTWEIGHS THE GOOD. The reason they don't concentrate on the good of the album, is because in there opinion, there was such a ratio. In other words, they thought that OVERALL, the album was bad, and they're going to express their OPINION that this is so. It's really all very simple.
As for me.. I like a lot of FII, especially LITS, but there's a whole handful of songs on there that I really don't like; not being picky, or wanting the music to be a certain way, but finding them unpleasant to listen to....
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:41:23 -0500 From: Benjamin James Gateno <bg003i@mail.rochester.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Punk Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.10.9911291031090.13202505-100000@mail1.ats.rochester.edu>
Some dude on the list said "LTE (and prog in general) is everything punk isn't." I recommend this dude, and others to start listening to more punk, especially the west coast pop-punk bands. Check out "Allroy Saves" by ALL, or anything else by ALL, Descendents (ALL with a different singer), Propagandhi, Quit (if you can find it), and Big Drill Car to name a few. Check out the song "Educated Idiot" by ALL, and just try to tell me that's not progressive. I'd recommend you to listen to my buddy's old band, Marble, but you'd never find their stuff even though they toured around the U.S. They're all big DT fans, Cynic fans, Iron Maiden fans, etc...and it all shows in their music which is clearly pop-punk. I'd have to say while all of these bands are not always as complex as DT (sometimes they are), they are definitely in the same league. There is more to punk than the Sex Pistols.
Ben
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:19:56 -0800 (PST) From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: LTE sales figures... Message-ID: <19991129161956.17119.rocketmail@web301.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Mike Patrick <mvpatrick@home.com> wrote:
> LTE 1: 30k-ish > LTE 2: 15k-ish > > Now, I cannot speak to the accuracy of the numbers, but if true, THESE > TOTALS SUCK. > > What makes them even worse? I know, given the haunts I haunt, that a LOT of > folks who bought one (or both) of the LTE albums would NEVER buy a DT > release, sooo...that leaves that many MORE DT fans that passed on LTE. > Wonderful.
Hmm...that's strange, but I won't argue with you. It's strange, because (at least seemed to me) ever since the LTE 2 cd was released here, a small prog feast started around this town...(okay okay, maybe 'feast' is exaggerated :) but the fact was that when LTE 2 had been around for a couple of weeks, both bigger music shops (yeah, it's a small town I live in) ordered all DT records to the stock and other prog releases too.
The same happened again when SFaM came...
===== Janne Jokitalo
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:48:08 -0800 (PST) From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Adam's FTP Site Message-ID: <19991129164808.8161.rocketmail@web306.mail.yahoo.com>
Thanks Ed...(Now I only hope I didn't delete that number ;)
--- Edward Polzin <polzin@mindspring.com> wrote: > > the reason why it's invalid is because he's in the middle of moving and t= > he > site isnt online. check back in about 2 weeks or so when he gets settles > in. later. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > ]From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com> > To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 4:18 PM > Subject: Adam's FTP Site > > > > > > Hi there ! > > > > I'd like to know the IP address for Adam's ftp site, since the number a > > saved doesn't seem to be valid anymore, or is the server occasionally > > down ? > > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > Janne Jokitalo > > > > Boss Information: jaska@boss.fi > > Jyv=E4skyl=E4 University: jajokita@st.jyu.fi > > Homepage: http://www.jyu.fi/~jajokita > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > >
===== Janne Jokitalo
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:20:47 +0100 From: "Julien Ferrant" <julien.ferrant@hei.fupl.asso.fr> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Advice on QR albums Message-ID: <199911291700.SAA11384@mailhost.hei.fupl.asso.fr>
---------- De : Julien Ferrant <julien.ferrant@hei.fr> A : ytsejam@torchsong.com Objet : Advice on QR albums Date : samedi 27 novembre 1999 11:07
Hi there. I have just bought the "Hear in the now fronteer" album, which I find pretty cool, and I was wondering which other Queensryche albums to buy. The old school or the latest ones?
Although, an opinion about Metallica's S&M. This album was incredible the first time I heard it, especially the first CD, but with a closer look, I think some tracks do not fit with she orchestra (the outlaw torn for example). The atmosphere of the song was particularily strong on the Load album, and I think it has lost it (maybe because of the vocals which are especially bad on this track). However, some are really cool, RTL hasn't been so heavy for a long time, and this is maybe the first album on a long list which will include a REAL (not synth) complete symphony. Maybe Metallica's is not the first one (remember Rage?) but it will be the most influent one.
Well, that's all folks. ----------------------
"Come on God, answer me. Where is justice, where is Punishment? Or have you already answered, have you already said to the world : Here is justice, here is punishment." Biohazard "No hope = No fear" Soulfly
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:27:50 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Something nifty... Message-ID: <000701be1bc6$05b9f4a0$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
Did anyone catch the oddity in "End of Days" that was somewhat reminiscent of our favorite scene in SFaM? The part where Satan walks into the Visionary Tomas' hospital room and moves toward the bed.
"Open your eyes, Tomas." Tomas gasps.
No record player scratchies though.
I cracked up at that part and everyone had to look at me funny. -- KorgX3 thought End of Days was a pretty good movie.
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:30:16 -0600 (CST) From: Bigman <martinah@csd.uwm.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: *DT rarities for sale* Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.991129132929.2339B-100000@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu>
Hey there everyone, I've got some rarities that I'm looking to sell. I don't want to waste bandwidth, so if you are in any way interested, e-mail me privately and I'll send you a brief list of what I have. Later on. . . Andrew H. Martin "DaBigman"
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