YTSEJAM Digest 5205
Today's Topics:
1) Buckethead
by Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com>
2) Re: Metheny / LTE / Vai
by Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
3) re: Keyboard debate, "string" sounds
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
4) down with solos (was This may be the longest post today...)
by Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
5) Re: Too many web pages!!!
by Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
6) Re: Steve Vai tour dates
by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com>
7) Dance of Eternity- my opinion
by YtseSryche@aol.com
8) re: How many keys do I need?
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
9) jokes
by "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
10) Re: Al - Ytse's newest torch
by AyameYuki@aol.com
11) OT: Info Scanner....HELP!
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
12) PAL/NTSC
by Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
13) Primus tour + Incubus?
by Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
14) Attn: Australian Jammers
by "Scott Gordon" <gordo5150@hotmail.com>
15) LTE 'self-indulgence' & the IBANEZ Infinity Custom 7s
by Vince LuPone <vgl@syspac.com>
16) MP video is here!!!
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
17) Toad's Place/Jazz is Dead/Mortgenstien
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
18) Short QR review
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
19) SFAM
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
20) sequal?
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
21) jordan
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
22) Re:How many keys do I need?
by "Nissinen Tommi"
23) (NDTC) For any SERIOUS (or INSANE) guitar out there ...(NDTC)
by "Jeff Storck" <jtstor@hotmail.com>
24) res variae
by "M P" <mremann6@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
25) multiple keys setups
by "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com>
26) Re: multiple keys setups
by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
27) Oooh! A new keyboard vs. guitar debate!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:37:24 -0600
From: Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Buckethead
Message-ID: <19991122.154923.3454.0.schnapster@juno.com>
Now, I did really dig the nunchucks thing he did. I have to admire that.
I'd be hitting myself in the nuts so bad... .
I really dug it when he jammed with Primus, it's just that his solo set
had no band (except a DJ that came out and did some stuff during a song
or two), which was kind of lacking in a live setting. It was also kind
of difficult to tell when he was actually playing (I was a little far
from the stage, so I couldn't see real well), and when it was the tracks
he was playing along with. The mask and bucket were alright, it was just
his overal presentation that I'm not sure I got. The music was actually
pretty decent, though. Some pretty fast (and somewhat tasteful)
shredding.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:46:59 -0500
From: Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Metheny / LTE / Vai
Message-ID: <B45F3114.4BEF%marc@merespass.net>
>>>> which PAt MEtheny's album to buy.
>>>> Which one is the best for a new listener?
>>>
>>> Hmm..tough question..all of his stuff is so good..Here are some
>>> general considerations about each of my favorite Metheny albums
>>
>> Oh Bright Size Life. Definitely! :)
>
> Mua-ha-ha. He copied his reply and actually chose my sugestion! That
> must hurted. ;o)
> Go boy, get the CD.
I'm not even going to reply to that ;)
--Marc R
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:56:54 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: "ytse WHAT? oh yeah, ytse J A M" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: re: Keyboard debate, "string" sounds
Message-ID: <3839CA36.BDA99E02@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Brian 7 of 9 wrote:
> As for this infamous "synth brass sound" at 8:28 in
> Beyond This Life, I appreciate it for it's
> fusion/Zappa references. But I do think that section
> would have fit much better in TDoE. The overall
> instrumental break in Beyond This Life is one of my
> favorite moments on all of SFaM. It really has a hard
Thanks. I thought I was going crazy from all the bashing I've been
hearing that song take in different forums. That's got some sweet DT
prog moments in there too!
> rocking groove, kinda like a mutation of early Black
> Sabbath, but heavier. The short Zappa section breaks
> up the overall flow of the hugh groove going on there
> in BTL. IMHO, it would fit better somewhere else.
Interesting that you mention Zappa. To my ears, DT constructs many of
their tunes similarly. What I mean is, there'll be a vocal section with
some hooky groove, then BAM, they hit you with an extended improv
section filled with prog and general jamming. What works for me is how
it's all packaged into a song.
Ok, so they're not talking about a getting an ice pick in the forehead
as the drummer polyrhythmically rips over the comedic lyrical content.
Different beast :)
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:58:42 -0500
From: Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: down with solos (was This may be the longest post today...)
Message-ID: <B45F34D1.4BF6%marc@merespass.net>
> I edited out all of JP's
> guitar solo in TOT, but kept Derek's keys solo AND YOU'D NEVER KNOW! I took
> out the whole second verse of TAMP, and YOU'D NEVER KNOW! The copy of FII
> that I have is thus (and I recomend it):
I'm not sure if you mean that you can't tell John's solos from Derek's or if
you mean cutting the solos doesn't detract from the album. I'm guessing the
latter. To that, I have to completely agree. You can cut all the
instrumentals and all the solo sections and it won't matter! The songs will
still be good songs and the album will still be a good album. Solos are
always expendable.
I can certainly understand if some people don't like the solos and
instrumentals. I can't relate but I can understand that some wouldn't like
it. As I said, the solo is always expendable. It's not like a symphony or
something. It's just another section of the song. A song, by definition, has
words and tells some sort of story. A solo is just an added bit. But some
folks are saying that they are a waste and that they're boring and they
shouldn't be there and DT needs a producer to tell them when to start
singing again and when to stop jamming. I guess so. I can't disagree that a
producer is a good idea. It's always good to get an outside opinion. But I
love DT's instrumental stuff. I don't have any problems with it. I love
SFaM. I couldn't disagree more that the instrumental parts are a waste and
that the solos are boring. Of course, all of this is subjective anyway.
I feel that the solo parts and instrumental sections and pieces are such a
part of what DT is about that if you don't like them, you're missing out on
a part of the band's music. I guess all I have to say is Fast Forward. If
you hate the instrumentals or solos so much that you want to spend time
cutting them out, go for it.
--Marc R
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:06:35 -0500
From: Marc Respass <marc@merespass.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Too many web pages!!!
Message-ID: <B45F35DB.4BFD%marc@merespass.net>
> I still contend that there are entirely too many junk web-pages out
> there..Their only purpose is to pad the ego of the maintainer. Many are of no
> useto anyone and should be deleted.
>
> Now, if anyone could share information on how to avoid these pages whendoing a
> search on the web, or search engines to avoid, I'm all ears (as I'msure is the
> rest of the 'Jam).
Talk about ego! Some bastards have their frickin name right in a damn domain
that they paid $70 for!
Freaks. And the site serves no purpose to the public at large, it's like a
damn forum for these losers. Don't even get me started on email signatures!
Jerks.
-- Marc Respass mailto:marc@merespass.net http://www.merespass.net/"The one thing Apple provides leadership in now is colors. It won't take long for us to catch up with that, I don't think." --Bill Gates
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 00:19:44 +0100 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Steve Vai tour dates Message-ID: <199911230019440350.000C46F2@post.hem.hu>
Hi,
>04.13.00 --- Budapest, Hungary --- TBD >04.14.00 --- Ljubjana, Czech Republic --- TBD
>Now, is it Ljubljana or is it Prague???? Anyone???
I donno. But Budapest is Budapest, and as such, it is in Hungary.:) As far as I am concerned...:))))))
Bye
ZZZZZ, a guy from Budapest;) mailto:zeusz@bigfoot.com UIN:7315852 HP:http://RS.irisz.hu/zeusz
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:28:01 EST From: YtseSryche@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Dance of Eternity- my opinion Message-ID: <0.b87ef555.256b2b81@aol.com>
Okay, here's the reason I think this song is here for what reason. I don't think it's meant to move anyone or anything remotely like that. I think it's for all the musicians out there to have fun trying to get the song to sound just as cool as they did. It's like a little taste of metropolis 1 on the album. I'm not that great of a drummer, but even just faking some of the parts on that song is so much fun! It sounds cool, and it's fun to play. There's really not a whole lot you can ask for!! Just my little idea... TonyC
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:41:24 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: re: How many keys do I need? Message-ID: <19991122234124.11671.rocketmail@web110.yahoomail.com>
Chris Oates <coates@objy.com> wrote:
> In other words, Jordan could have 8,000 Kurzweil k2600s on stage, > and he still couldn't replicate the solo sound Derek got from the Trinity+Prophecy.
Hmmm... I'm no keyboard player, but if someone had one physical "keyboard" on stage, couldn't they control a whole rack full of synths? Including a rack-mounted Trinity?
Of course there's probably a reason this might not work that I'm not aware of...like compatibility or playability problems?
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:37:52 +1100 From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: jokes Message-ID: <3839D3D0.A6E46367@alphalink.com.au>
how many drummers does it take to change a light bulb? Two. One to change it and one to argue that Neil Peart would have done it better.
how many guitarists does it take to change a light bulb. Two. One to change it and one to argue that he would have done it better.
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:51:52 EST From: AyameYuki@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Al - Ytse's newest torch Message-ID: <0.f7422adc.256b3118@aol.com>
Kudos to Al for that spirit filled reply, i agree that that guy shouldnt have talked through his butt using his defenseless computer. but i wonder, how did that impact his mind ? is it smaller, or did he learn not to go on auto piss off each time something seems "stupid" or "feeble-minded" when some people who are smarter than you couldn't know a computer from a tamgotchi.
Nicole
PS. what's a pikachu? < NDTC
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:23:32 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: OT: Info Scanner....HELP! Message-ID: <3839FAA4.448BCA7C@home.com>
Hi folks. Perhaps somebody can lend a hand here.....
I have an INFO ImageReader Ultra scanner I bought about a year ago. A while back, my comp. had a big crash, and some stuff (including the InfoCenter Lite scanner program) got erased.
Anyhow, I went to re-install the Infocenter Lite software....... and lo and behold, when it asks for the serial number (and I enter it CORRECTLY) it tells me it's an invalid number! WTF!? It worked before!? Anyhow, I would call INFO up (and in fact I tried) but I believe they went out of business!!!
Is there anything I can do? Any way I can bypass the damn serial number or something?
HELP!
Thanks, - Joe D.
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 00:10:32 -0500 From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: PAL/NTSC Message-ID: <383A21C8.136FFE42@yunque.net>
Hey all, is there a way to succesfully convert from PAL to NTSC? What would i need to do that? Private email is ok .... Thanks in advance
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:37:17 -0600 From: Jim Shields <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Primus tour + Incubus? Message-ID: <l03130300b45fc81d3fd2@[128.83.253.171]>
Hey, for you folks that have seen primus, is Incubus still playing with them? I heard that a leg of the tour was going to be Incubus, Buckethead, and Primus, and I just about creamed. Incubus is one of my favorite bands. For their older stuff, think of 311/korn-style adidas metal with a really badass singer (very reminiscent of Mike Patton) and you have Incubus. They branched out a lot on their newest album, which came out the same day as SFaM. The new music is a lot more chill, and definitely more mature; it's so full of emotion and expression that it is absolutly amazing. it's a shame they don't get more exposure. they are better than any of the other new metal bands I've heard. Bass Player magazine called their bassist one of the ten bassists to look out for in the next ten years (it was like a 10th aniversary issue). Incubus is awesome. I highly recommend checking them out, esp. if you're going to see primus.
PS - Antipop RULES, as does Monsters and Robots!
NP - Al DiMeola: Infinite Desire
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:55:16 EST From: "Scott Gordon" <gordo5150@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Attn: Australian Jammers Message-ID: <19991123055517.58606.qmail@hotmail.com>
You may have seen in the latest UACM Newsletter that a new mailing list has been set up for Australian DT fans. In case you missed it, or if you haven't yet done so, you can subscribe by sending a blank email to aus-dream-theater-subscribe@egroups.com or by going to http://www.egroups.com/group/aus-dream-theater/info.html.
If you have any queries, you can contact the list owner, Chris Lawrence, at thebear@innocent.com. He has also set up a website at http://ausdreamtheater.tripod.com
Thanks!
Gordo
"I'm not an air guitarist, I'm an air guitariste." - Rob Burrows (1967-1994)
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:08:30 -0700 From: Vince LuPone <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: LTE 'self-indulgence' & the IBANEZ Infinity Custom 7s Message-ID: <3.0.32.19991122230829.006bc5b4@pop02.syspac.com>
At 10:54 PM 11/21/99, Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com> wrote: >And someone else called LTE 'self-indulgent', using >that to describe the instrumentals in SFAM. Might this >be due to the improv nature of LTE?
hehe, we kinda have a joke about that here in Arizona started by Eckie calling LTE "Liquid PreTension Experiment" :) I for one love LTE (especially the first disc), but I can see where it gets that kind of connotation. Also, I truly do not get it when people say "The Dance of Eternity" is not a valuable song. Heck, TDoE, "Fatal Tradgedy" and "Finally Free" are the biggest selling points of the disc for me. Well, that and the 'punk in 5/4' stuff is damn cool too :)
For all the guitarists out there, ***check out*** this URL:
http://www.jemsite.com/ax_z-rm7.htm
It's a custom 7 string design that some guy here in the Phoenix area has done and apparently it has Ibanez's seal of approval on it. Damn fine guitars. Ebony fretboards, EMGs, mahogany bodies, and a HUGE cutaway for the left hand on the upper strings. Now I just need $3000 to get one of these beauties.
Donations, charity, and Eventides are most welcome :)
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff,
Vince LuPone Guitarist for Obscure http://www.ivorygate.com/obscure/
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:51:34 -0800 From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: MP video is here!!! Message-ID: <19991122.225134.-1602471.2.willeyatc@juno.com>
I just got the MP video... You all have to get this one! It is great.. he goes trhough some of the SFAM stuff and explains alot of their writing teqnique and such... for those who have seen it, how cool is that "Shrink and Grow part"!!!! That was so complex but i never really figured it out listening to FF...I always just thought that part was kindof repetative but now I have a whole new respect for it... MP said it was one of the most challenging parts in the album!!! WOW, what a great two video set... and it's signed by Mike himself! Well some of them...
Let's lift the veil on this video and start talking about it instead of all our PC problems!!! i think there may be PC problem lists out there to vent on! **pelt*, *thud*...ouch...(don't get me wrong, i'm cool with it, this is a DT list though!!!) Any ideas Al?? *snicker*...
ytsejon
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:49:54 PST From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Toad's Place/Jazz is Dead/Mortgenstien Message-ID: <19991123074955.71875.qmail@hotmail.com>
I just got back from checking out Jazz is Dead at Toad's Place in New Haven, CT. I'm pleased to report that the infamous 'net' separating the drinking area from the main area is now on the other side of the stage, so if you're under 21, you don't have to stand off to the side (man, I was SOOO bitter at last year's christmas show....especially since I don't drink at all in the first place......). I'm not sure that every show is like this, but, Mr Portnoy, if you are reading, PLEASE TRY TO HAVE TOAD'S DO IT THIS WAY NEXT TIME YOU PLAY THERE! thank you. Moving on, Jazz is Dead was absolutely MINDBLOWING. On guitar; Jimmy Herring (Aquarium Rescue Unit), on keys; T Lavitz (Dregs?, Widespread Panic), on bass & stick; Alphonso Johnson (WEATHER FU*$&#N' REPORT!), and on drums, our freind Rod Mortgenstien. And, needless to say, they play only Grateful Dead tunes. They did a REALLY good job transferring the Dead's spaced-out country rock into hard driving funk-fusion. (very progressive, too, I might add). And, unlike most of the jambands, the majority of the fans were there for the MUSIC, not for the drugs. In fact: -There were only a select few who sported cheap do-it-yourself-in-a-day dreadlocks and wispy adolescent beards -I encountered no one wandering around asking "doses....doses...." -(Best of all) I DIDN'T SEE ONE PHISH T-SHIRT!!!! (I also discovered that you CAN dance in 7/8 and 11/8. I felt so cool being the only one who could dance to 'king solomon's marbles'. I guess the Ramones DO suck ;^) Anyway, during setbreak, I spoke with Rod Mortgenstien, and he had this info to offer -Ther WILL be a third band on the Metropolis 2000 tour, but it will not be Spock's Beard. It will most likely be some up-and-coming prog band, or 'the guitar guy from King Crimson'. I'm guessing not Fripp, but I'm not familiar with the currint KC incarnation... -Platypus 2 will be out early next year. I asked if they planned to do any shows once it was released, and he replied with a hesitant 'maybe'. Oh well...... -Met 2000 will mostly be in theaters rather than clubs. -[not really related, but] Aquarium Rescue Unit plans to tour once again in April. I apologize if the majority of this post is WAY off the topic, but I'm still very excited because this was one of the best shows i've seen in a while (and i've seen Ravi Shankar AND Tribal Tech recently!) God bless ya -Banjoman np: nothing ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Memory is nothing but a gimmick - Col. Bruce Hampton, Ret. ======================================================================
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:14:46 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Short QR review Message-ID: <19991123.021500.11742.1.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
My honest opinion, they never sounded better. I met them after and Geoff said he (vocally speaking) is feeling the best ever. He held the 18 second long note on Right Side of Mind perfectly. I felt like it was a Q2K show, but also a Mindcrime show, they played the whole Cd except for The Mission and Suite sister Mary. Kelly was rockin even getting close to the fans, putting a leg to the safety rails, and rockin hard with the crowd. I made of with pictures of me and Geoff, Michael, Ed and Scott. Both Ed and scott sung to me back and forth during the show, the first thing they said backsatge was: I remeber you, the hyper guy in the front and Scott-You raelly know your lyrics. I made off with a shirt, the setlist from next to Mike's pedals, the pictures, my Q2K CD completely autographed and one of Scott's drum sticks. Pretty cool night. The new stuff sounds really good live, and it was bad ass to see them head bang and play fast again (Mike was going nuts during the end of Breakdown) Two weeks, Megadeth and Doubledrive, my new favorite band of the week.
kurt party on wayne party on garth!
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:39:23 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: SFAM Message-ID: <3839E23B.C90C48EB@mol.com.mk>
Yah, the Bulgarian / Russian pirate serie of SFAM arrived in Macedonia! :) Nah, I didn't buy it, I wait my original CD any day now by mail, but a friend bought it! E-mail me privately if anyone wants to stab him, ya legal whiners!
Won't say much, just that there's 3,4 pure Pink Floyd rips off on SFAM! :) Piano line in the back and James singing - WHENEVER I HEAR IT ROGER WATERS COMES TO MIND! I wonder why? :) No bash, but the influence is right there! Too visible to be unnoticed. Pink FLoyd rules loosers! ;o)
Also there is one part where LaBrie wails a-la U2 / Bono Vox!
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:03:41 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: sequal? Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB50E0@ms.kallback.com>
I hardly think SFaM can be called a sequel to Met. 1. I have listened to it many times and have found no reference to the SECOND dancing turtle.
Trevor NP-Andre Anderson-Changing Skin (This cd is totally flab!)
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 02:06:02 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: jordan Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB50E1@ms.kallback.com>
I like the fact that he only uses on keyboard. It shows that he is confident and doesn't need a whole rack to be showy. At Yes, Igor had at least 10, which I thought was about 7 too many. IMO, Trevor
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Date: 23 Nov 1999 13:39:00 +0300 From: "Nissinen Tommi" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:How many keys do I need? Message-ID: <JA8AAAAAAF7TpAABYQADbpMOAcxU@kesko.fi>
Chris Oates (23.11.1999 0:45): > >>He had 1 - repeat ONE - Keyboard in front of him at the concert and he got >>everything=20out of it, the solo was amazing.
Just like Jens Johansson of Stratovarius.He creates such nice soundscapes= with that little=20keyboard in front of him plus he has that solo-sound extraord= inaire. I don=B4t know exactly which keyboard he uses (self-made maybe=3F!), but so= unds are pretty cool.
Maybe you could tell little about your equipment Jens, if you read this=3F
-Tommi
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 07:54:00 EST From: "Jeff Storck" <jtstor@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: (NDTC) For any SERIOUS (or INSANE) guitar out there ...(NDTC) Message-ID: <19991123125400.87640.qmail@hotmail.com>
Ok, here's the deal. I went to Sam Ash yesterday, and bought the Allan Holdsworth video on a whim. I saw it and had to grab it. :) I wouldn't call it an instructional video, but at least it has SOME instruction on it. I was wondering, with those 10 scales... out of all 10 of them, one has fingerings that I know, but the rest seem all sorts of crazy. Anyone else with this video... what kind of tricks did you use to memorize the scale patterns? or did you go about just memorizing them string by string or something?
It's definately cool to see Holdsworth run around the fretboard like he does... I thought he did more fret-board tapping. Anyway, I think any Holdsworth fan would love the video, even if they don't play guitar. There are some great songs on there, and the drummer (minus the hair) is really good! :) Chad Wackerman(n) :)
Thanks...
Jeff
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:59:33 -0500 From: "M P" <mremann6@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: res variae Message-ID: <199911230554262@mremann6.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
]From: "Dave Peterson" <glyde@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Too many web pages!!!
>I still contend that there are entirely too many junk web-pages >out there. Their only purpose is to pad the ego of the maintainer. > Many are of no use to anyone and should be deleted. >Now, if anyone could share information on how to avoid these pages > when doing a search on the web, or search engines to avoid, I'm all > ears (as I'm sure is the rest of the 'Jam).
ages ago, one of us maintained a list of various prog pages, with some minor commentary. DT had the most pages, but this was mainly due to a desire for completeness. Lots of worthless pages then too.
The Gateway to Erpland has been down for years now, and to get it back into working order would take more time than D has to give it. It was attempted earlier this year; with web pages moving sites, students losing school accounts, and so forth, just checking the list and pinning down new locations would take months. Then there is tracking down new sites, making sure links are spelled correctly... you can see what kind of headache this entails.
Believe it or not, progressive rock has proliferated on the web. D accumulated nearly 900 bands and better than 1000 links before deciding tothrow in the towel. He currently recommends Ghostland and progrock.com
>From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com> >Subject: European Tour Thoughts >(Aren't all keyboard players merely guitar player wannabes who >couldn't make the grade ??)
We hope you cleaned your asbestos jammies. You'll probably need them tonight.
>4) MP's vocals. After suffering through listening to MP attempt >to sing over the last couple of years, he has really improved.
practice and quitting smoking have likely helped.
> I dont know how a drummer can hold a steady voice while banging > away like a monster but he is doing it.
check out Queen or The Cross. a similarly skilled drummer there.
Subject: Jordan / Latin
>Coito, ergo sum, eh?:) >Er- Zeus, what you probably mean is 'Cogito ergo sum', I don't >know what you were thinking but don't mix 'Cogito' with 'Coitus' ;)
Aliquibus summa vitae recondere in vaginas suos penes est.
(For some, the whole of life lies in "sheathing their swords".)
JAJUID
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:22:17 GMT From: "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: multiple keys setups Message-ID: <19991123142217.64617.qmail@hotmail.com>
This relates to the guys saying avout JR using 1 board vs Derek/KevMo using 3: Which it may be the case that JR can get all the sounds out of the 1 keyboard, he can't get them all at once. For example, I'd love to know how he proposes to play the intro of FF live - he uses strings, and then - with NO break - it's striaght into piano. You CAN'T do that smoothly on one board. Furthermore, you can forget using more than one - maybe two if he's clever - voices at once live. Even if the Kurzweill is the board of the gods
Si
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:27:11 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: multiple keys setups Message-ID: <002901bf35c7$3699db00$702010ac@clemson.edu>
]From: "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com> Subject: multiple keys setups
> he proposes to play the intro of FF live - he uses strings, and then - with > NO break - it's striaght into piano. You CAN'T do that smoothly on one > board. Furthermore, you can forget using more than one - maybe two if he's > clever - voices at once live. Even if the Kurzweill is the board of the
hmm maybe the same way he did 98% of RMP live - he splits his board. has a little magic pedal that he taps with his foot and it completely rearranges the configuration as needed. moo.
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:48:26 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Oooh! A new keyboard vs. guitar debate! Message-ID: <002c01be16f8$bba66fa0$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
>NO break - it's striaght into piano. You CAN'T do that smoothly on one >board. Furthermore, you can forget using more than one - maybe two if he's >clever - voices at once live. Even if the Kurzweill is the board of the
>From what I hear of Jordan's prodigal playing, he splits the keyboard in half and plays say, the strings, with his left hand and the piano with his right. Considering his current board's 64 note (or is it 128 now?) polyphony, I don't see how this could be a problem. :) I wouldn't Look Past Him to use foot controllers to pedal any bass notes he needs (like an organ).
>(Aren't all keyboard players merely guitar player wannabes who >couldn't make the grade ??)
Doh! Explain Tony McAlpine! Explain Derek! Explain Me! Well, maybe not me, but I'm equally capable on each unit. :P Not like either of them are difficult or anything. :P -- KorgX3 picks his nose and discreetly wipes it under the 'jam. NP: Echolyn - As The World
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