YTSEJAM Digest 5175
Today's Topics:
1) Read all about it! - DT Aardschok interview on the Net
by mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic)
2) Read all about it! - DT Aardschok interview on the Net
by mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic)
3) Re: Re: VH rumor....waaaaaaaaay off topic
by Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com>
4) JP Clinics
by rwarren1@midsouth.rr.com
5) Metallica Concert on MTV tonight
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
6) Re: SFaM and the movie Dead Again
by "Michael Tilson" <mtilson@ionet.net>
7) Re: SFaM and the movie Dead Again
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
8) Re: SFaM and the movie Dead Again
by JamesAhab@aol.com
9) Re: The SFaM End Theory
by JamesAhab@aol.com
10) Re: Stupid toys that destroy young minds.
by JamesAhab@aol.com
11) Re: Metallica Concert on MTV tonight
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
12) Re: Stupid toys that destroy young minds.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
13) re: Mahavishnu Orchestra
by Guy Berger <gberger@sdcc13.ucsd.edu>
14) Re: Mahavishnu Orchestra
by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
15) Re: Dead Again
by Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com>
16) Re: Metallica Concert on MTV tonight
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
17) comparing DT and QR
by "Tuomas Kourula" <kourula@saunalahti.fi>
18) Re: vision thing
by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com>
19) Which is the favourite vinyl of Nick?
by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com>
20) VH
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
21) Re: Mahavishnu Orchestra
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
22) Re: VH rumor....waaaaaaaaay off topic
by MaxArbot@aol.com
23) VH
by Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com>
24) No grammar for you!
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
25) Re: VH
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
26) DT ever in Hawaii?
by Lte24@aol.com
27) SFaM stuff
by WoodyTJ34@aol.com
28) zappa in "beyond this life"
by "Heikki Kemppinen" <hkemppinen@hotmail.com>
29) Re: zappa in "beyond this life"
by Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:16:20 +0100
From: mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Read all about it! - DT Aardschok interview on the Net
Message-ID: <m11k7Zk-0005yqC@fwd01.btx.dtag.de>
Hey Jammers!
I finally finished the translation of the Dutch Interview with Dream Theater.
You can read the whole thing in Dutch, English, and soon also in German, here:
http://WideAwake.freesite.de/sfam.htm
Have fun, and while you're at it... please sign my guestbook.
Alex
-- Alex Gajic [mams.gajic@t-online.de]WIDE AWAKE @ http://home.t-online.de/home/mams.gajic/ THE FANATASY QUEST @ http://www.geocities.com/Area51/5974/index.htm
* Every breath takes me one less to my last * PULL ME UNDER (Dream Theater)
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:24:25 +0100 From: mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Read all about it! - DT Aardschok interview on the Net Message-ID: <m11k7hZ-000K2xC@fwd11.btx.dtag.de>
Hey Jammers!
MISTAKE IN THE URL! ! ! ! THE URL IS:
http://home.t-online.de/home/mams.gajic/sfam.htm
Sorry for that!
Have fun, and while you're at it... please sign my guestbook.
Alex
-- Alex Gajic [mams.gajic@t-online.de]
WIDE AWAKE @ http://home.t-online.de/home/mams.gajic/ THE FANATASY QUEST @ http://www.geocities.com/Area51/5974/index.htm
* Every breath takes me one less to my last * PULL ME UNDER (Dream Theater)
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 11:12:22 -0800 From: Angelo Lombardi <Angelo13@home.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Re: VH rumor....waaaaaaaaay off topic Message-ID: <38247D96.BF48300F@home.com>
> Good, now Gary can go make some REAL music instead of being held down by the > Van Halen brothers...he's way better than VH IMHO. I know many will hate > this response, it's just an opinion, and you're most definetly entitled to > your own...so no comments are necessary
No... I, for myself, don't hate you! I like VH & I like Gary Cherone, BUT together they sucked (IMO). Extreme was a GREAT band. And Van Halen WAS a great band. If this rumor is true, then (pretty much) it's either a break up of a once great band OR who's next??? David Lee Roth again? Yeah right it might happen.
Angelo
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 10:28:38 -0600 From: rwarren1@midsouth.rr.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: JP Clinics Message-ID: <3.0.32.19991106102838.00951210@mail.midsouth.rr.com>
I am looking for some of recent JP Clinics on video or audio. I have plenty to trade. See my list at the url below.
Later,
Richard
e-mail: rwarren1@midsouth.rr.com www: http://home.midsouth.rr.com/rwarren
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:18:04 -0600 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Metallica Concert on MTV tonight Message-ID: <19991106.111809.16374.0.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
hey all, at 11/10 pm central tonight, MTV will broadcast the Metallica Symphonica concert from MSG. I saw the video for Hero of the Day, and the symphony adds another dimension to the music, without taking anything away. true tonight will be live, but the finished product on the CD is something definately worth looking into. plus Micheal Kamen dircetd the symphony, and he kicks ass.
Kurt NP-Q2K
"and though it leads to nowhere, you part debris and keep on going"-Doubledrive New Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory" out In Stores NOW! "I don't know how the guys in Slayer are going to live past 40"-Paul Blocker See Queensryche on Tour this fall! www.queensryche.com for latest dates!
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:16:05 -0700 From: "Michael Tilson" <mtilson@ionet.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: SFaM and the movie Dead Again Message-ID: <001101bf287a$9ce77980$a97a1d26@4su1t>
>Anyone seen the movie Dead Again? Same concept as the SFaM story. Past >lives, murder, strange twists, etc.
I was beginning to think I was the only one. IMHO, there are too many similarities between the two stories for it to be a coincidence. I'm betting someone in the band has seen the movie. It's definitely a question I would have for MP.
Mike mtilson@ionet.net
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:43:17 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: SFaM and the movie Dead Again Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911061242300.29724-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Michael Tilson wrote:
> > >Anyone seen the movie Dead Again? Same concept as the SFaM story. Past > >lives, murder, strange twists, etc. > > I was beginning to think I was the only one. IMHO, there are too many > similarities between the two stories for it to be a coincidence. I'm > betting someone in the band has seen the movie. It's definitely a question > I would have for MP.
I can confirm that this was an inspiration to the band - it's in the M2 FAQ as confirmed by MP that it was. They used it as a basis for some of the storyline in M2.
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- "What makes you strange is that you don't understand that I'M the one who's normal." - Heidi Lacroix -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:29:36 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: SFaM and the movie Dead Again Message-ID: <0.739b34f6.2555cd90@aol.com>
>< I can confirm that this was an inspiration to the band - it's in the M2 F AQ as confirmed by MP that it was. They used it as a basis for some of the storyline in M2. ><
As was the ending. =]
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:36:04 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: The SFaM End Theory Message-ID: <0.b04d7977.2555cf14@aol.com>
In a message dated 11/5/99 10:51:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, tugmutton@toast.net writes:
>< After listening to the end of the album cranked up last night, I'm sure of this one. Someone had posted this theory a few jams ago, so this is just to confirm it... my apologies to the original poster - I can't remember who you were! :)
'Cut Scene Theory' (it seems an appropriate title)
- Nick is woken up by the hypnotherapist (note: 'open your eyes Nicholas' ... same as Edward's speech when he kills Victoria in 1928) - He walks to his car, starts it, drives home - Song music fades to his radio - Car pulls up at house with radio playing... he turns it off and kills then engine. - Nick walks to the house (note the gate of his walk... moderate speed) - He unlocks the front door, then shuts it. - CUT TO MOMENTS BEFORE NICK'S ARRIVAL ... NOW INSIDE THE HOUSE - the TV is on (as Portnoy said, the JFK Jr. death report is used to signify present day [and perhaps a foreshadowing]) ><
You must not've had it on too loud, or else you would've noticed that the TV is on before the door shuts. So either the cut takes place somewhere else, or it's all wrong.
Jim
np - chum: dead to the world (i'm all sfam'ed out)
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:48:47 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Stupid toys that destroy young minds. Message-ID: <0.e4b14b46.2555d20f@aol.com>
>< >Are you sure? I am almost certain that the cobra hypnotist, the guy with >the bald head, the psychadelic shield, the guy who masterminded the >creation of Serpentor WAS, in fact, Dr. Mindbender. If not, of whom am I >thinkng? Again, I'm pretty sure that it was Dr. Mindbender.
Aye. Dr. Mindbender was the mastermind behind the creation of Serpentor, but there was another guy who came with a hypno-shield. Dr. Mindbender was more of an "evil scientist" type. This other guy was one of the lame creations that were perpetuated around that time. He was like called Dr. Hypno or something. I think he came out at the same time as Raptor, who I thought was really lame as well. But that's right, he had a black moustache and black hair. Dr. Mindbender, I remember came with a nifty brain manipulation device, this other guy just came with the hokey shield. ><
You fucker, now this is gonna be on my mind all night. I know who you're talking about, remember what he looked like, remember what his shield looked like, even had the damn toy...Crystal Ball? Something like that? He was `quite` lame. His shield had that effect where it looked like it was swirling whevn you moved it or something. Ah, the good ol days.
Jim "Tripwire" Brooks
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:12:40 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Metallica Concert on MTV tonight Message-ID: <003101bf288b$13e98720$600d84d0@safelink.net>
> at 11/10 pm central tonight, MTV will broadcast the Metallica Symphonica > concert from MSG. I saw the video for Hero of the Day, and the symphony
You know? This might not be a bad thing at all. I remember lots of people here getting real torqued when MTV said something like "This is the most original thing any metal band has done in years," (lol) but this could be a HUGE break for any prog bands who might be able to "sell-out" to Metallica's originality. :)
The one thing I know is that alot of Metallica fans tend to have an appallation (not Appalachian, damn homonyms) toward symphonic music. This could lead to bigger and better things. After hearing this and that Metallica has dubbed it goche (which will appeases thousands of sheep), they may start to search for more music incorporating symphonics, i.e. Dream Theater!
Metallica may or may not realize the propensity of this action, but it could be a benefit to all of the professional musicians who have to take day jobs. :) Woo rah. -- KorgX3 needs another blo... er... day job.
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:16:58 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Stupid toys that destroy young minds. Message-ID: <003901bf288b$83b67040$600d84d0@safelink.net>
> like, even had the damn toy...Crystal Ball? Something like that? He was
That was it! Woo. Crystal Ball. heheheheh. Who the fuck would name their son Crystal? :) Yeah, he had a bio where he was the seventh son of a seventh son, could read minds, etc, etc... Perhaps the whole advent of his creation was, indeed, based upon a particular Iron Maiden album. lol. Maybe he was cooler than we though! :D -- KorgX3
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 10:37:30 -0800 From: Guy Berger <gberger@sdcc13.ucsd.edu> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>, "'Freaks'" <freaks@torchsong.com> Cc: TrevorW@ms.kallback.com Subject: re: Mahavishnu Orchestra Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19991106103730.00a3d364@sdcc13.ucsd.edu>
Trevor Hoit wrote:
>I just bought Mahavishnu Orchestra-Birds of Fire and I really like it. >Any other suggestions for MO cds?
First thing: you MUST pick up _The Inner Mounting Flame_. It has the same blistering, take-no-prisoners intensity as BoF multiplied times a 100. Unlike most fusion bands, these guys weren't just a 'chops' band.
_Between Nothingness & Eternity_ is live and less focused than the above two, but it is still incredible. I can't believe the telepathic interplay these guys had. There are several other Mahavishnu CDs, mostly by a different lineup, and you may want to check them out eventually -- but they pale compared to the original lineup. You also might want to check out John McLaughlin's work on several Miles Davis (_In a Silent Way_, _Bitches Brew_, _Tribute to Jack Johnson_ and _Live Evil_) and Tony Williams albums (_Emergency!_), though that stuff tends to be more abstract.
Guy
np In a Silent Way (Pick this one up. It's sublime!) ---- gberger@ucsd.edu "Tell everybody waiting for superman That they should try to hold on best they can. He hasn't dropped them, forgot them, or anything... It's just too heavy for a superman to lift." -- Wayne Coyne
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:43:32 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Mahavishnu Orchestra Message-ID: <004301bf288f$357eccc0$702010ac@clemson.edu>
]From: Guy Berger <gberger@sdcc13.ucsd.edu> Subject: re: Mahavishnu Orchestra
> np In a Silent Way (Pick this one up. It's sublime!)
i thought their singer died?
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:40:09 -0600 From: Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Dead Again Message-ID: <19991106.134829.-1638237.0.schnapster@juno.com>
I am kinda surprised someone didn't already mention this movie in connection with SFAM (sorry if someone already did). I watched it a few days after the release (first time I'd seen it in a few years) and noticed several similarities, at least as far as the whole past lives/hypno thing goes. The ending for SFAM is better, though, IMO.
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 15:08:06 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Metallica Concert on MTV tonight Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911061506180.37205-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Korg Ecksthrey wrote:
> The one thing I know is that alot of Metallica fans tend to have an > appallation (not Appalachian, damn homonyms) toward symphonic music.
*Ahem* That's "appellation".
> KorgX3 needs another blo... er... day job.
I ain't touchin' THAT one with a ten-foot pole. No pun intended.
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you. -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 22:59:36 +0200 From: "Tuomas Kourula" <kourula@saunalahti.fi> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: comparing DT and QR Message-ID: <000b01bf2899$ed75f060$8388c5c3@wingate>
I occurred to me to compare DT and Queensryche's albums and this is=20 what I came up with.
DT: WDaDU - QR: the Warning The First real record. Only fans like it (or own it :). Has great = moments in it, though,=20 but the production could've been better.
DT: IaW - QR: Rage For Order An early masterpiece, many fan's favorite one. Very original, clearly = defined=20 yet versatile style. Keyboards more prominent than on other albums.
DT: Awake - QR: Operation: Mindcrime A more metallic album than it's predecessor, and with a very different = (and better)=20 sound. Very dark in feeling.
DT: FII - QR: Empire Definite departure from the earlier style, far more radio-oriented than = anything=20 else they had done up to this point, and not many fan's favorite. = Features use=20 of outside songwriters or arrangers.
DT: SFaM - QR: Promised Land A combination of all styles they had gone through before, but still very = coherent.=20 A consept album (i think that PM is one) that has a very consistent feel = thoughout,=20 many fans favorite. Was written in studio and took a long time to write = & record.=20 Excellent artwork that has much to do with the consept. Very good sound = (awesome=20 production by the band), and the singer seems to have found a whole new = range=20 of expression.
(ACoS was an old song reworked, so it doesn't fit in there.)
I really, really hope that DT's next one is _nothing_ like Here in The = New Frontier.=20 And I hope QR would get their act together but it sure doesn't seem to = be happening.
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 23:03:41 +0100 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: vision thing Message-ID: <199911062303410580.00048CD2@mail.elender.hu>
Hi all and Chris Oates!
>Read "The Miracle" lyrics on Finally free. This takes place AFTER julian >and Victoria are dead. How can Nick know this if he is only seeing things >from Vic's point of view?
The spirit is considered to be around when one dies. So actually the spirit _sees_ his or her 'previous' and dead body from above.
Bye
ZZZZZ mailto:zeusz@bigfoot.com UIN:7315852 HP:http://RS.irisz.hu/zeusz
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 23:03:38 +0100 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Which is the favourite vinyl of Nick? Message-ID: <199911062303380560.000480F7@mail.elender.hu>
Hey,
<Re:flections>
>> 4. Puts on an old vinyl (because that's the hot media at the time).
As Korgy said he throws up his favourite DT - or something, - and he was joking about his. In fact, Korgy IS right, guys.
Then: TheCowGod says:
>i am no music history buff so i can't tell you what kind of >music it is or when it came from,
It really IS DT!
>it is, of course, the melody from one of the >tracks on SFAM... i cant quite remember which, but i remember it sounded >familiar. moo.
And here is the fuckin point ladies, and gentlemen.
Try to sing the part:
[10:58] Safe in the light that surrounds me [11:05] Free of the fear and the pain [11:11] <footsteps heard> My [11:12] subconscious mind <[11:13] "Open your eyes, Nicholas"> Starts [11:15] spinning ... <static>
I tried to be as accurate as I could.
And it fits!
Nick is a Frank Sinatra DT-fan.:) Cooooool. 8)
</Re:flections>
If anyone mentioned this before: Sorry for repeating.
Bye
ZZZZZ mailto:zeusz@bigfoot.com UIN:7315852 HP:http://RS.irisz.hu/zeusz
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 18:15:33 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: VH Message-ID: <3824B695.85E7BF2C@home.com>
NuGgeTMaN said: > I have to agree here...Van Halen was only good with DLR
I like the DLR-era stuff, but actually prefer their Sammy era discs (all 4 are excellent, IMO).
- Joe D.
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 21:57:37 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Mahavishnu Orchestra Message-ID: <38249641.CF567E79@mol.com.mk>
> From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> > > I just bought Mahavishnu Orchestra-Birds of Fire and I really > like it. Any other suggestions for MO cds?
Sure, get Inner Mounting Flame!!! :) Although, expect much harder shred and in general more raw power than on BOF!
> From: Younis Hilal <yhilal@cds.caltech.edu> > > Anyway, I've noticed that BoF and IMF seem to get recommended > more often than other MO CDs.
Of course, these 2 are the trademark MO sound.
> Somebody once told me that another album (called "Visions of > the Emerald Beyond", or something like that) was also pretty > good, but I've never heard it.
I have it. Funny, I didn't play it looong time, and 2 days ago incidentlly I took it to play it. It was first time I play it on my new stereo and was VERY surprised that I totally freaked out on the album, hearing it on good speakers (for a change)! It's really very good album, .. more sophisticated that IMF, but has moments of raw MO power. And just to finish the circle, the only other worth MO album is APOCLAYPSE, with symphonic orchestra! But better leave it for last one. I think there is 1 more MO album, or 2 maybve, but they suck. That's not IT anymore!
Next McLaughlin project after MO was - SHAKTI !!!!!!!!!! Guys, ... GO GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Muffin Man
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:18:46 EST From: MaxArbot@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: VH rumor....waaaaaaaaay off topic Message-ID: <0.3a4cdb30.25561f66@aol.com>
NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> writes:
<< Good, now Gary can go make some REAL music instead of being held down by the Van Halen brothers...he's way better than VH IMHO. I know many will hate this response, it's just an opinion, and you're most definetly entitled to your own...so no comments are necessary >>
How about a positive comment? I personally loved some of the stuff Extreme did, and I thought VH was actually graced with his vocal presence. I've always like Cherone...kinda wish he'd stuck with Extreme.
[eriC]
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:33:29 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: VH Message-ID: <19991107003329.20116.rocketmail@web301.mail.yahoo.com>
Hey... I'm personally glad to hear Gary's gone (is this confirmed, or is it still a rumor). His voice was a little too raspy, although I must admit I liked his inflection on "Year to the Day."
A reunion w/ DLR would rule, but I'd personally like to see what they can do as an instrumental group.
-Dan
===== Calvin: I wonder where we go when we die. Hobbes: Pittsburgh? Calvin: You mean if we're good or if we're bad? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:40:14 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: No grammar for you! Message-ID: <002901bf28d2$29c542e0$570d84d0@safelink.net>
>> The one thing I know is that alot of Metallica fans tend to have an >> appallation toward symphonic music.
> *Ahem* That's "appellation".
No. Appellation means "The act of calling by a name" Appallation means to be appalled (to dislike, despise).
Although I made up appallation (I >did< check the Webster's dictionary for that, not there), I would tend to believe it is a grammatically correct extended usage of the verb "to appall."
> I ain't touchin' THAT one with a ten-foot pole. No pun intended.
Ain't? hehehe. I rest my case. :D I know Webster recognizes it now, just kidding. hehehe. :) -- KorgX3 scolds the grammar-nazis. :)
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:47:16 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: VH Message-ID: <003801bf28d2$cfe99c20$570d84d0@safelink.net>
> I like the DLR-era stuff, but actually prefer their Sammy era discs (all > 4 are excellent, IMO).
I agree with Joe. Even though I've got all of the stuff they did with Dave, I still like Sammy better. 5150 and Balance are classics, imo. The best stuff they ever did, I think.
> Hey... I'm personally glad to hear Gary's gone (is > this confirmed, or is it still a rumor). His voice was > a little too raspy, although I must admit I liked his
Well, if Gary would have sung like he did on Extreme's first three albums, I don't think you'd complain. :) I think Gary is a marvelous singer when he wants to be. On VH3 he sounded more like he was trying to be Sammy. And I wasn't too fond of Gary on Waiting for the Punchline either. He must have beefed up his carcinogen intake after III Sides or something. :P -- KorgX3
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 23:15:00 EST From: Lte24@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DT ever in Hawaii? Message-ID: <0.79b73063.255656c4@aol.com>
Pardon my ignorance, but has DT ever toured Hawaii? I've been out of the country and now I am stuck in "paradise" so I haven't had the pleasure of experiencing a live DT show.
Thanks for any info!
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Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 00:27:23 EST From: WoodyTJ34@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SFaM stuff Message-ID: <0.8700a71b.255667bb@aol.com>
Hey, I just wanted to say that as much as I love the album, one thing bothers me. Why do Julian & Edward fight/die over this girl. Blood is thicker then water. We have no knowledge that the brothers have had a disagreement except for Victoria. I would sure look into the situation before I killed my brother over a women. I wonder if Nick doesn't die in the end. The "scream" at the end seems more out of surprise than out of death. There is nothing at the end that proves that there is a struggle or death. If he is killed, I think there would be a long drawn out scene like all the others on the album. These guys are so cool. Also, why does Nick not thank the hypnotherapist when he originally tells him to open his eyes in Finally Free. He just rises up and leaves. Very strange. That is why I think that the whole song is a dream and that the second time he tells Nick to open his is actually the time Nick does open them and "screams" because he was so overcome with all that he just went through. Although that doesn't explain the record player skipping. Just some more food for thought. See ya, Todd
"I sit down with my son, set to see the Crimson Sunset."
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 12:51:13 GMT From: "Heikki Kemppinen" <hkemppinen@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: zappa in "beyond this life" Message-ID: <19991030125113.41607.qmail@hotmail.com>
I've heard a lot of talk about a Zappa-type of section in "beyond this life" I can't seem to find it. anyone want to help? and by the way, the album is INCREDIBLE! I've listened to it 10 times in a row in just two days!
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Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 07:18:10 -0500 From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: zappa in "beyond this life" Message-ID: <38256E02.7FF7C252@yunque.net>
Heikki Kemppinen wrote:
> I've heard a lot of talk about a Zappa-type of section in "beyond this life" > I can't seem to find it. anyone want to help? > and by the way, the album is INCREDIBLE! I've listened to it 10 times in a > row in just two days!
I *think* its the part that goes from around 9:04 - 9:22..
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