YTSEJAM Digest 5146
Today's Topics:
1) Re: AW: My thanks to the Band!!!!(spoilers if you care)
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5144
by KOSTAS <karban@rodopi.cc.duth.gr>
3) SFAM vs. SFaM
by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
4) who's lucky, who's not
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
5) METROPOLIS II - Scenes From A Memory
by "Lionel" <rurouni@singnet.com.sg>
6) It's good to be Home
by "Nicole R. Stachowicz" <ytsekirby@yahoo.com>
7) Re: chat transcript?
by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
8) Open your eyes Victoria
by "Wingell, Joshua" <Joshua.Wingell@compaq.com>
9) SfaM *Spoilers*
by "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
10) Sfam on CDnow...
by O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
11) Re: Met. 2 demo w/ Derek: Sounds From My Trinity
by "Jason Skewes" <jskewes@sightline.com>
12) 2nd car pulling up
by Alexander Coassin <alex@nemaweb.com>
13) Scenes From A Memory - Review (*****Spoiler?*****)
by "Jonas Opsal" <jonasops@online.no>
14) Medeski, Martin & Wood
by Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br>
15) Re: McKean's SFaM cover (*VERY minor spoilers about the cover*)
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
16) SFAM storyline
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5144
by William Cary Hall <hall@cs.unc.edu>
18) Re: tourbus.com
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
19) DT on FiringSquad
by "Jason Birzer" <longshot@pressroom.com>
20) the REAL ending
by john jens <jjens@darkhorse.webzone.net>
21) PMU
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
22) <NDTC>[Fwd: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E4r=20=E4r=20n=E5got?= att suga
by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
23) Re: Met. 2 demo w/ Derek: Sounds From My Trinity
by MaxArbot@aol.com
24) Re: SFAM storyline
by billing@yunque.net (I.S.I. Billing Department)
25) Re: the REAL ending
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
26) Keeping Portnoy in stiches
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:27:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: AW: My thanks to the Band!!!!(spoilers if you care)
Message-ID: <Pine.HPX.4.10.9910271026470.19242-100000@njmsa.umdnj.edu>
I have the burning heart on my leg.
> So people which of you have DT related tatoos?
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> Steve
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:28:37 +0300
From: KOSTAS <karban@rodopi.cc.duth.gr>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5144
Message-ID: <38170C15.98F878B5@rodopi.cc.duth.gr>
I dont want any more emails please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:30:06 +0200
From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: SFAM vs. SFaM
Message-ID: <38170C6E.FF6F4D4C@home.se>
Reading the countless posts about this new masterpiece I wonder what the
correct way of abbreviating the album title is? Some write SFAM and some write
SFaM.
The SFaM is probably because "a" is not a really a word, but on the promo it
says "Scenes From A Memory" (capital A) and on the official release everything
is in caps so there's no way to tell.
There are surely more important SFAM (SFaM) issues to discuss, but this is
really bugging me.
Andreas Skarin
Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet
http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:sdts@home.se
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:52:45 +0200
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: who's lucky, who's not
Message-ID: <381711BD.58976C26@mol.com.mk>
> From: "Sasha" <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
>
> >From: Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
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> >To all of you who just got the album
>
> I just wanna know where you slovenian guys bought the album!
He-he, don't make ME open my mouth! :)
BTW, congratulations to the guy who offered shipping CDs to other
jammers - bravo, finally some goodness on the jam! :)
And yeah, thanx Mark! :)
> anyhow... Matej, have you taped Petrucci`s clinic at Friday?
Pih, Sasha, didn't you know Slovenians always had it better, even in
ex-YU? ;) Damn Europeans.
Balkan rules!
Just a question:
I just read some jammer thanks to the band! IS it true DT recorded this
album JUST FOR US, THE FANS??
Or was it planned? The first one really seems hard to believe, but if
I'm wrong - you guys rule!!!
Awaiting my SFAM in 2 weeks (I guess). Damn, damn Ytsejam!!! :)
-- CyberDuke ________________________________________________"What do you think about it?" "Shocking!" "Yeah, but do you think it was funny?" "Of course not! That would be REALLY shocking!"
The 2 balcony fossils, "The Muppet Show" ________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:52:03 +0800 From: "Lionel" <rurouni@singnet.com.sg> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: METROPOLIS II - Scenes From A Memory Message-ID: <000c01bf208b$321bf820$c7a115a5@tmcht>
Oh man!
Ladies and Gentlemen, THIS is the Dream Theater legacy! Their best work to date and by far the most beautiful! I was so overwhelmed with emotion when I heard "The Spirit Carries On" that I really wept. Especially when JP's solo came in! Man! That pitch harmonic really hit the spot! This is what DT is supposed to sound like! This album seems to carry their very essence! I'm sure glad I took Mike's advice seriously about not checking out those MP3s. This... oh man! I could just go on. In fact, I'm still tearing slightly. heh.
For those who have yet to check it out, don't worry. The wait is damn well worth it!
By the way, anybody know who's face that is on the cover? I dunno if anyone thinks the same, but it sure as hell looks like JP's face to me (before he had that goatie). Especially the mouth. Hmm... but don't quote me. I could be wrong.
Lionel Wong
"...If I die tommorrow, I'll be all right. Because I believe That after we're gone, the spirit carries on..."
- Dream Theater
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:05:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz" <ytsekirby@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: It's good to be Home Message-ID: <19991027150548.23098.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com>
Hey 'jammers,
It's good to be back on the list. :) I'm glad I unsubbed and waited 'till last night to hear SfaM. It was DEFINITELY worth the wait. I haven't made any judgements on it other than it TOTALLY rocks in every way... I'll have to hear it another 20 or so times to really get the full concept. However, Through Her Eyes hit me MUCH harder than I thought it would. Crying and driving on the freeway aren't a good combo. More thoughts later....
Oh yeah, and thanks to all the Houstonians who attended the release party last night. Another total success! :)
-Nicole/Kirby goes to sleep now
===== Nicole R. Stachowicz US Coordinator for the Dream Theater International Fan Club http://www.mikeportnoy.com/usdtifc.html Kirby on irc.dreamt.org:2112 #ytsejam and #ytseradio YtseKirby on irc.ram-page.com:6667 #mikechat ytsekirby@yahoo.com -=- http://www.christopherlloyd.net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:58:35 +0200 From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: chat transcript? Message-ID: <3817131B.97942CBD@home.se>
Adam Sanford wrote:
> Does anyone have the chat transcript from last night? I can't find the DT > chat info on Sonicnet anymore. Please contact me off list with details if > you know anything about it.
Eh....or maybe on list?
Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:sdts@home.se
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:05:47 -0400 From: "Wingell, Joshua" <Joshua.Wingell@compaq.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Open your eyes Victoria Message-ID: <11EB515FBDB3D111BF270000F84A9ED604BE13C4@shrexc1.shr.dec.com>
I didn't hear this until just now.
At 4:35 in Finally Free, you can hear "The Miracle" say "Open Your Eyes, Victoria." Pretty damn freaky. You have to turn up the volume and listen closely. It is right after the 2 gun shots. He says "Open your eyes, Victoria," and you hear 2 more gun shots. Like I said, really freaky.
Finally Free is a great way to get a good handle on what the entire album is about while Nicholas goes over everything in his head on his way home.
Josh
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:12:00 -0400 From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: SfaM *Spoilers* Message-ID: <001e01bf208d$9e5dfae0$b084c5cf@crp.crp.org>
Haven't heard anyone mention this yet (and probably nobody cares), but my favorie song is "Home." Such an infectuous rhythm!
And Home (along with DoE - which I think is just an extension to it) is the song that ties in the most musical and lyrical themese between parts I and II (I'm writing an essay on this - will share when I write it). although I haven't cried from listening to this, I get goosebumps and chills when James sings "Victoria watches and thoughtfully smiles, she's taking me to my home" using the exact melody line (and most of the words) of "Metropolis watches and thoughtfully smiles, she's taking you to your home." Will need further exploration.
Gotta go back an keep working, but SfaM is just haunting me! Thanks to DT for this masterpiece.
joe
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:18:28 +0200 From: O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Sfam on CDnow... Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991027181828.00944bb0@trade.hamkk.fi>
you know CDNOW has a few "what's hot" CDs on the frontpage... as I checked them today, Sfam was there... this is what was said about it:
"The band's first studio release in two years proves to be the epic masterpiece that fans have been expecting"
op777
Thoughts while Eating at McDonald's "...if people were actually shaped like those little "throw litter away" people-figures with the pointy limbs that appear on the boxes the burgers come in, they'd fall into gratings all the time and get stuck. But getting out of jail would be really easy." -Kevin Madden
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:16:58 -0500 From: "Jason Skewes" <jskewes@sightline.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Met. 2 demo w/ Derek: Sounds From My Trinity Message-ID: <HEEGKFFABJFPAJPNDFOMOEENCAAA.jskewes@sightline.com>
>I was searching the net and I found an MP3 of the Metropolis 2 demo >with Derek on keys! Apparently, Metropolis 2 used to be titled, >"Sounds From My Trinity" before he was asked to leave the band...
This is a classic... :-)
Jason
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:15:36 -0400 From: Alexander Coassin <alex@nemaweb.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: 2nd car pulling up Message-ID: <38171718.C618EA4F@nemaweb.com>
Wow!!!
At the suggestion of someone else on the list... I listened carefully to the very end. You can clearly hear another car drive up with the radio on ("finally free" playing), which is obviously the therapist. My question is: is that a rocking chair like people are suggesting, or is it the therapist slowly opening the door, thus the creaking sound.
- alex
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:16:35 +0200 From: "Jonas Opsal" <jonasops@online.no> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Scenes From A Memory - Review (*****Spoiler?*****) Message-ID: <004a01bf208e$42f105c0$2fe54382@janopsal>
A rather lenghty review which is written for my website Surfing Into = Infinity at http://dreamtheater.tsx.org
-------------- So here we are, one of the most anticipated CD's of 1999, and certainly = the most anticipated disc for years on my part. "Dream Theater - = Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory"... Even the title sounds great, = but first things first.
The veil... I can't possibly talk about the SFAM without mentioning the = veil of secrecy. This veil was supposed to keep information about the = new album from reaching the masses (or the fans anyway) and the band put = a lot of effort into this secrecy. There were however some people who = had obtained promotional copies of the new album and made mp3's from it = for the internet. So in one way, the veil failed. I don't think it = failed completely though, because it was still possible to stay away = from the information that emerged because of the mp3's. And the people = who did would be rewarded for it.
The cover art.... Some saw the resemblance to Fate Warning's "Still = Life" at once they saw the front cover, but the first sightings of the = cover was from CDnow for most people, in a small compressed jpg image, = so it was difficult to judge the cover based on this. I have to admit = that the first thing that went through my head when I first saw it was = "Lemur Voice - Divided", but after comparing the two, I have found that = the two aren't even remotely related. The thing that seemed to excite = most people about the cover, was the Dream Theater logo. Dream Theater = had returned to using the old logo from the IAW, Awake and ACOS days. A = lot of fans had been making request for this, and there it was. Another = thing that caught people's eyes was the full title: "Metropolis Pt. 2: = Scenes From A Memory". Some fans had dared to hope for an inclusion of = Metropolis 2 on the new album, but few had dreamed that the entire album = would actually be Metropolis 2. The main title "Scenes From A Memory" = fits perfectly to the story and it is a great name, even though it is = also the name of one of Mike Bahr's DT Boots. Back to the cover itself. = There is a picture of a man's face, with lots of small pictures = 'morphed' into the picture. We can clearly see the Majesty symbol, as it = is included on all of Dream Theater's official releases. The liners were = a little disappointing to me, as they are in black\white and only = features the texts for the songs plus the general information (produced = by... Thanks to... etc.). I was hoping for some pictures of the band, or = at least some form of colored layout. I guess that's the least important = thing about the album, but I still miss it.
The tracks... The 12 tracks are divided into two acts (Act I and Act II) = and in nine scenes. Only the scenes have track times (like 8:49) and = this was a little annoying to me. It means that there are only three = song without track times on the back of the CD. Not that it really = matters... The total running time of the CD is 77:14, and there is no = need to tell you all that this is a long CD. As a matter of fact, the = average length of the 12 tracks is close to 6:30!
The story... As this is a concept album, there is a story going through = all of the songs, and we get drawn into the CD like if we were watching = a movie. This is probably the main reason that there was a veil of = secrecy, as the story could be ruined for you if you knew the ending = before you listened to the whole album. It still takes a couple of = listens before you understand the whole thing. I have listened through = the whole thing about 7 times during the last week, and I have = discovered new aspects of the story almost each time. There are several = twists to the ending, and there are many ways to interpret it. In my = opinion the story is very good, and I think it would beat most of the = movies I've seen lately. The excitement inside when you figure out more = aspects of the story is incredible, and I thank the band both for = writing such a story, and for 'making' the veil of secrecy. I am certain = that my experience wouldn't have been the same without it.
The lyrics.... The Lyrics are very good, as we've come to expect from = Dream Theater. Portnoy and Petrucci still writes most of the lyrics, but = there are also contributions from both LaBrie and Myung. Rudess has yet = to put his name on a song, but with him being new to the band, that is = really no big surprise to me. Maybe next time. I feel that Dream Theater = has matured in their songwriting, and combined the best from all of = their earlier albums in the writing of the lyrics.
The Music... Ahh... It is absolutely amazing. There is no doubt that = these people have the ability to create great music. They have proved it = time after time, and they have done it again. Whether you call their = music "Progressive Metal" or "Progressive Rock", they still progress. In = this album there are really heavy moments and there are acoustic = guitar-moments. There is both top class shredding, and jazzy sections. = There are parts of songs that sound like geniusly performed = improvisations, and there are parts that feel like well thought through = compositions. A little bit of everything. As a concept album should = have, there are themes returning throughout the album, and also some = stuff from Metropolis Pt. 1 and other songs sneak in. The band sounds = really tight, and still everybody gets to shine and show off a little. - = Without ruining the songs! LaBrie doesn't have the high screams that = turned some people off, and I am sure all these songs will sound better = live than some of really tough vocal parts in for example Voices from = Awake that were hard to pull off live. Portnoy can still drive any = drummer crazy with his playing, but he is not all over the place on this = album. He is exactly where he should be, and he does it better than = anybody. Petrucci delivers top class shredding and is wonderful on the = acoustic guitar, he is truly one of the best in his genre. Myung, who = have often been 'lost' in the mix or hard to hear, is also brought out = of the dark. There are even a couple of bass solos for him here. He = shows why he is in a band like this, and that he knows how to use his = instrument the right way. Myung doesn't have to talk, his instrument = does all the talking for him. Rudess lives up to the expectations that = he himself created by playing like he did on "Liquid Tension = Experiment". He fits the band like a glove. I know I am praising them = all, but if you listen to the album you will know what I am talking = about. I am merely describing how they play... Also, Portnoy and = Petrucci's background vocals sound great, and they have really improved = over what I have heard them do live. Lovely.=20
The samples... Dream Theater has 'always' used samples of some kind. = They are not absent in this recording either. All samples that have been = used fit the music really well, and have a meaning for the story. None = of them are very dominant, and they won't ruin the flow in the music for = anybody.
Liquid Dream Theater... Some feared Dream Theater would sound like = Liquid Tension Experiment when Rudess joined the band, and others hoped = for LTE with vocals. None of you should stay away from this album. You = can hear some of the LTE style in their music, but it is certainly not = LTE 3. This is Dream Theater, nothing else. I really don't want to = compare SFAM to DT's earlier work, but if someone held a knife to my = throat I think I would say that this new album is a blend of IAW, Awake = and ACOS, with some of FII and LTE thrown in. You really have to hear = it.
The BIG question: Is it better than their best album? I don't know. In = my opinion, it probably is, but I have had years to digest the other DT = albums, and only one week with SFAM, so it is hard to say. Right now, I = consider "Scenes From A Memory" Dream Theater's best work up to date.
I would give it 9.5 out of 10 points because I hope that they will = return and make something even better in the future. One can always = dream!
Jonas Opsal (Norway) - jonasops@online.no Dream Theater web: http://dreamtheater.tsx.org
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:41:27 -0200 From: Fernando Rauber <ferer@conex.com.br> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Medeski, Martin & Wood Message-ID: <38171D27.CD1AE9C5@conex.com.br>
What album to start with this band?
[]s Fernando Rauber ICQ: 2281311 http://fast.to/frmp
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:50:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: McKean's SFaM cover (*VERY minor spoilers about the cover*) Message-ID: <Pine.HPX.4.10.9910271143360.3122-100000@njmsa.umdnj.edu>
I agree about McKean - he is truly one of the most ingenious artists out there today.
Some of his other stuff includes artwork for Toad the Wet Sprocket ("Coil"), as well as Stabbing Westward's "Darkest Days", the entire Cages, Black Orchid, and Sandman series (with Neil Gaiman), artwork for the latest in Stephen King's "Dark Tower" series.......as well as tons and tons of other material as well.....definitely worth checking out!
-Al
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Joe DeAngelo wrote:
> 2. Using the incredible Dave McKean for the cover artwork! I was 95% > sure the first time I glimpsed the cover that it was him, and I was > delighted to find that I was correct! > > Everybody should check out the unofficial Dave McKean site "Dreamline". > It's got some nice galleries of this great and prolific artist's work, > including most of the MANY CD covers he's done (including DT, > Mullmuzzler, Testament, Paradise Lost, Tori Amos, Dali's Dilemma, Alice > Cooper, Fear Factory, Front Line Assembly, the ELP tribute, My Dying > Bride, and James Murphy to name a few). > > I think my fave covers are the SFaM, as well as Testament's "Low" and > "Demonic", FF's "Demanufacture", and Lowcraft-"One of Us" (I don't know > that band, but the cover rocks!) > > Here's the site: > http://www.erasing.org/dreamline/ > > > Laters! > > - Joe D. > > P.S. - note to Mike P. - - > > > You guys surely didn't disappoint us > with ANY aspect of the new disc! DAMN! >
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:47:36 +0100 From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SFAM storyline Message-ID: <4957a15d82graham@picsel.com>
ReSent-From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> ReSent-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
The Miracle can't be the hypnotherapist; whoever heard of a US senator with an English accent? ;-)
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:58:10 -0400 (EDT) From: William Cary Hall <hall@cs.unc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5144 Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910271155240.29378-100000@eagle.cs.unc.edu>
Someone wrote:
"Senator's brother doing some crazy shit like that (maybe the Headline part was vague for the purpose of keeping us in suspense). Anyway. I think it's Edward going home, hearing the news, pouring himself a drink (notice how on the back of the booklet, there's a newspaper and a glass of something, I know it's dated the same day as the events but hey it's just artwork...besides I'm stretching here so humor me). Anyway so yeah Edward hears the news (which he was of course aware of) and has a drink and puts on a record...then the Open your eyes is the therapist waking Nick up, and now he really wakes up.""
I respond:
Maybe Nick is startled/scared when he wakes up b/c he realizes that it was him (in a past life, as Edward) that killed Victoria and Julian. I really love this story line.
Cary
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:53:41 -0700 From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: tourbus.com Message-ID: <19991027.211742.197.0.willeyatc@juno.com>
> Whats up with that tourbus.com site where you can send some > questions for > Mike when he does that radio interview in saturday. you click on the > dream > theater link and some picture from 1988 comes up. i see nothing > about > submitting any question.
the site is under alot of construction. You have to click on the front window of the drivers seat in the bus and it will take you to the message board.. you have to register with them also. If you hold the mouse over each window it will tell you what they are for!
ytseJon
Jonathan Willey, ATC WSU
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:25:22 -0400 From: "Jason Birzer" <longshot@pressroom.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DT on FiringSquad Message-ID: <199910271225.AA77529688@pressroom.com>
Something I just noticed. Was reading the Ask Buck column on Thresh's FiringSquad. www.firingsquad.com He gives a nice little plug for the new DT. Nice to know there are some cool gamers out there.
Jason
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:24:45 -0500 (CDT) From: john jens <jjens@darkhorse.webzone.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: the REAL ending Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9910271101550.4238-100000@darkhorse.webzone.net>
Dan Wait sed:
| Ok, I'm sure we all know the words to Met1, but just | to review: "Death is the first dance eternal"; "Deceit | is the second with out end"; "The third is love, love | is the dance of eternity". | | And in SFAM, there's the past (where Victoria dies) - | this might correspond w/ Death; there's the 'present' | - the words of Fatal Tragedy seem to correspond w/ | deceit; and then at the very end, Nicolas is told | "open your eyes"... for the second time. I guess one | might call this the 'future', since we don't know what | happens - might this correspond w/ the third, love?
So Nicholas/Victoria goes home, closely followed by the therapist/Ed. Nick pours a drink, puts on a record, ponders his findings when the therapist comes in, startles Nick. This is where it gets real.
The therapist/Ed now knows the Nick is Victoria, the girl he still loves obessively. So he follwed Nick home to be re-united with his love. So what if she's in a man's body? The record gets bumped after Ed gives Nick a wet, sloppy kiss; lovers entwined.
and can someone tell me wtf that *screach* sound is at 2:24 of Finally Free?
-- john jens jjens@webzone.net http://www2.webzone.net/~jjens
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:29:17 +0200 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: PMU Message-ID: <v0421010db43cd88d5d0e@[192.168.1.1]>
>Open your eyes, Matt! :) >Where's the Ytsejam?? TTT?? PMU? Lines in the sand??
There are some people in the band who *won't* miss PMU, that's for sure ;-))
Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:41:17 +0200 From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se> To: Ytsejam list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: <NDTC>[Fwd: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E4r=20=E4r=20n=E5got?= att suga Message-ID: <38172B2D.11E98861@home.se>
This has nothing to do with Dream Theater, but yesterday I came across the most hillarious homepage I've ever seen. You have got to check this one out!
http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/primall/mahir/index.html
Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:sdts@home.se
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:46:06 EDT From: MaxArbot@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Met. 2 demo w/ Derek: Sounds From My Trinity Message-ID: <0.b2f333bc.2548864e@aol.com>
Agh! You tell us about it and even give us lyrics, but you won't let us hear it? <sniff>
[eriC]
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:50:21 -0300 From: billing@yunque.net (I.S.I. Billing Department) To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: SFAM storyline Message-ID: <000d01bf2092$fa04dd00$37351ec8@yunque.net>
> > ReSent-From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> > ReSent-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > > The Miracle can't be the hypnotherapist; whoever heard of a US senator > with an English accent? ;-) >
It didnt sound like a english (im presuming you mean from england) accent? It sounds a lot like Dr Katz (cool cartoon on comedy central) to me heh
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:01:02 -0400 From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: the REAL ending Message-ID: <38172FCE.EBBC0C5B@wezl.org>
Actually Mattymo and I touched base on that aspect too, and thought about a Freudian version of the story, and how damn funny it'd be...like Nich and Ed being gay lovers, and Julian being into bestiality (thus the farm) but we figured even though it'd be funny as hell, it's kinda disrespectful to the band.
Also to those who've been discussing this with me...I FINALLY figured out the 1928...god am I stupid...but I still stick with my theory...due to the Kennedy thing...I think Chris P. was the one I was explaining that to. Cheers
john jens wrote: > > Dan Wait sed: > > | Ok, I'm sure we all know the words to Met1, but just > | to review: "Death is the first dance eternal"; "Deceit > | is the second with out end"; "The third is love, love > | is the dance of eternity". > | > | And in SFAM, there's the past (where Victoria dies) - > | this might correspond w/ Death; there's the 'present' > | - the words of Fatal Tragedy seem to correspond w/ > | deceit; and then at the very end, Nicolas is told > | "open your eyes"... for the second time. I guess one > | might call this the 'future', since we don't know what > | happens - might this correspond w/ the third, love? > > So Nicholas/Victoria goes home, closely followed by the therapist/Ed. > Nick pours a drink, puts on a record, ponders his findings when the > therapist comes in, startles Nick. This is where it gets real. > > The therapist/Ed now knows the Nick is Victoria, the girl he still loves > obessively. So he follwed Nick home to be re-united with his love. So > what if she's in a man's body? The record gets bumped after Ed gives > Nick a wet, sloppy kiss; lovers entwined. > > and can someone tell me wtf that *screach* sound is at 2:24 of Finally > Free? > > -- > john jens jjens@webzone.net http://www2.webzone.net/~jjens
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:00:35 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Keeping Portnoy in stiches Message-ID: <38172FB3.F0AC94B@isd.net>
With all the creative analysis surrounding this new album, I'll just bet that Mr. Portnoy is kicking his feet and giggling his ass off! Something tells me that a few trinkets have been placed in there just to fuck with us. I just can't see them passing up the opportunity.
As the resident ProGtologist, I tip my glove to DT! (Either that or I glove my tip :)
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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