YTSEJAM Digest 5147
Today's Topics:
1) Re:SFaM plot *SPOILERS!!!*
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
2) Re: SFAM storyline
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
3) A message to Bernd Basmer
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
4) RE: Medeski, Martin & Wood
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5146
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
6) Re: new album cover (no spoilers)
by <strangebrew@mindspring.com>
7) Radio Plug
by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersv.edu>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5146
by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
9) Hypnotherapist at the end, record player, Spirit Carries On, etc.
by Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com>
10) The real deal behind the final 30 seconds
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
11) Re: Sfam on CDnow...
by "Chuck Reis" <korgx3@safelink.net>
12) A Video Should Be Made of Finally Free
by "Mike Kramer" <blexkin3@hotmail.com>
13) DT related Tattoo...
by "Lauzon, Gary: #IHAB-NGR - AAI-RND" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
14) Therapist's voice
by Adam Sanford <ahs8t@virginia.edu>
15) SFAM story problems
by Ryan Veety <ryan@ryanspc.com>
16) SPOILERS
by "Christopher Ptacek" <someone@digitalrodent.com>
17) My personal Review on SFaM
by mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic)
18) What everyone else is talking about, of course.
by Chris Oates <coates@objy.com>
19) misc. ramblings
by Rachel Goldenberg <wisha@li.net>
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5144
by "Stan Tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com>
21) <no subject>
by "Stan Tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com>
22) US leaders
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
23) Re: SPOILERS
by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
24) Re: A Video Should Be Made of Finally Free
by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
25) Re: DT Tattoos
by "Chad L. Cook" <ccook@infolibria.com>
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:06:54 -0400
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re:SFaM plot *SPOILERS!!!*
Message-ID: <3817312E.3E97DFE6@wezl.org>
So I still don't get the farm thing...am I just stupid?
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:09:35 -0400
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: SFAM storyline
Message-ID: <381731CF.653E4F14@wezl.org>
I think he sounds just like Terrance...more Canadian than English, and
if you listen VERY closely (A good pair of headphones, and the volume
cranked) you can hear in the background a fart, and someone giggling and
saying "Hahaha that was a good one Terrance" It's VERY sublte though so
you have to pay close attention.
"I.S.I. Billing Department" wrote:
>
> >
> > ReSent-From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
> > ReSent-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
> >
> > The Miracle can't be the hypnotherapist; whoever heard of a US senator
> > with an English accent? ;-)
> >
>
> It didnt sound like a english (im presuming you mean from england) accent?
> It sounds a lot like Dr Katz (cool cartoon on comedy central) to me heh
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:09:11 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: A message to Bernd Basmer
Message-ID: <381731B7.FE5C0975@isd.net>
Bernd,
With all your praise of Dream Theater's new album, I hope you haven't
lost sight of one important fact...
You never have to look far to find quality song writing and musicianship.
Look in the mirror my friend.
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes,
it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:11:31 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Medeski, Martin & Wood
Message-ID: <5070B1B3F78AD3119681009027A36BEF0F5B91@MESSAGING>
Comubustication or Shack-man - I love them both about equally... :)
David Dixon
Internet Developer
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
ytsedave@asu.edu
-----Original Message-----
]From: Fernando Rauber [mailto:ferer@conex.com.br]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 8:59 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Medeski, Martin & Wood
What album to start with this band?
[]s Fernando Rauber
ICQ: 2281311
http://fast.to/frmp
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:23:22 +0100
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5146
Message-ID: <4957aa21f8graham@picsel.com>
> From: billing@yunque.net (I.S.I. Billing Department)
> Subject: Re: SFAM storyline
> > The Miracle can't be the hypnotherapist; whoever heard of a US senator
> > with an English accent? ;-)
> It didnt sound like a english
It sounds *exactly* like an English accent; I've lived in the UK for 22
of my 24 years, so I should know. :-P
> (im presuming you mean from england) accent?
What other kind of English accent is there?
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:44:52 -0400
From: <strangebrew@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: new album cover (no spoilers)
Message-ID: <Springmail.104.940617892.0.73883200@www.springmail.com>
ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote:
>
Mark Bredius wrote:
> I think it's actually kinda cool that people are trying
> God knows how many filenames, just to see a few 50 x 50
> pixel images a couple of day early... ;-)
sdts@home.se wrote:
> Yes, but what's cool about it is the insane dedication some
> people have for finding out stuff about SFaM, and that does
> nothing to detract from the fact that it's disrespectful.
> It's not just UACM, it's all homepages.
Did you ever wonder if that "insane dedication" was the precise REASON for the "Veil of Secrecy?" It seems the logical conclusion to me.
L8r,
Toby
NP: Signs Of A Vacant Soul - Virgos Merlot
http://strangebrew.home.mindspring.com
"Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control again. Here -- here's American Gladiators. Watch this. Shut up. Here's American Gladiators. Here's fifty-six channels of it.... Here you go, America: you are free...
.. to do as we tell you" - Bill Hicks
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:30:55 -0400
From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersv.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Radio Plug
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991027131502.00bf7640@cs.millersv.edu>
To any other 'jammers out there in Lancaster County. PA (do any exist?):
"Pull Me Under", Millersville's very own progmetal radio show, is on every
Wednesday night from 10pm-1am (eastern). This week, we'll be playing the
entirety of DT's new masterwork, "Scenes From A Memory", plus about another
hour and a half of proggie (though not necessarily so) gems. 91.7 on your
FM dial, 10PM -- don't miss it.
To everyone else:
WIXQ broadcasts on the web, as of a few months ago, in streaming
RealAudio. If the album ain't available yet in your part of the world, or
CDNow suckerpunched you with a backorder, you know what to do.
http://www.millersv.edu/~wixq/
(Mind the timezone complications, of course.)
Brian
[NP...Fear Factory -- Demanufacture]
===================================
Name:
W. Brian Henderson, Esq.
Contact:
wbhender@cs.millersv.edu
WIXQ ON-LINE:
http://www.millersv.edu/~wixq/
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:42:36 -0300
From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5146
Message-ID: <000901bf209a$46be6b00$37351ec8@yunque.net>
> > From: billing@yunque.net (I.S.I. Billing Department)
> > Subject: Re: SFAM storyline
> > > The Miracle can't be the hypnotherapist; whoever heard of a US senator
> > > with an English accent? ;-)
>
> > It didnt sound like a english
>
> It sounds *exactly* like an English accent; I've lived in the UK for 22
> of my 24 years, so I should know. :-P
>
> > (im presuming you mean from england) accent?
>
> What other kind of English accent is there?
Heh, i know i know..
>
> --
> _______________________ ___________________________
> |o o| |o o|
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> | graham@picsel.com |:: | Glasgow, Scotland |::
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:43:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bert Baldwin <rcb@vectorbd.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Hypnotherapist at the end, record player, Spirit Carries On, etc.
Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.95.991027174101.22803C-100000@vectorbd.vectorbd.com>
To those who aren't yet convinced that the person who surprises Nick at
the end is actually the therapist, listen to his voice. He has a very
distinctive voice throughout the album, and it's obviously the same voice
at the end that says, "Open your eyes, Nick."
The scratching is the record player which somehow got jarred in all the
commotion.
The Spirit Carries On is a major kick-ass song. In a slow way. :)
-- Bert
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:57:01 -0400
From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: The real deal behind the final 30 seconds
Message-ID: <4.2.1.19991027134707.026511a0@po7.mit.edu>
Here's what I've come to understand about the last 30 seconds
of Finally Free.
Apparently, the band members read all of Ytse-Al's speeches about how
analog is the best and that you can only achieve the best sound quality
by listening to vinyl.
Well, so what did the band do? Yes, they printed some VINYL copies of
Scenes From A Memory. And, to get the best sound on the CD version,
they just ended up dubbing from vinyl to CD!! How did the scratch and the
static get there? Apparently, LaBrie's caribou raided Beartracks Studios
because
they missed him so much, and during their stampede, one of them bumped into
the record player they were using to dub the CD version of SFAM --- right after
Nicholas screamed! The record got knocked off its track and you hear the
sounds of a record still spinning.
After hearing what the caribou had done, the band decided to just leave that
ending in to create this sense of mystery because they realized that the whole
Edward/Victoria-become-gay-lovers-in-another-life ending they originally had
planned was just too silly!
Like I said, this is only what I've heard. I'm not sure if this is true...
-Bogie
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Dream Theater - Lines in the Sand
http://dreamtheater.mit.edu/
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:10:34 -0600
From: "Chuck Reis" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Sfam on CDnow...
Message-ID: <009301bf20a6$9301ec60$480d84d0@safelink.net>
> you know CDNOW has a few "what's hot" CDs on the frontpage... as I checked
> them today, Sfam was there... this is what was said about it:
Yah, but the stupidist thing about that is the soundclip listed below it is
the intro to Regression. :P No music at all. Just the Hypnotherapist
talking. I would throw part of Overture 1928 instead. At least it would
give someone a better 1st impression of the album, imo.
--
KorgX3
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:19:04 PDT
From: "Mike Kramer" <blexkin3@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: A Video Should Be Made of Finally Free
Message-ID: <19991027181907.49442.qmail@hotmail.com>
I would shit my pants if Dream Theater made a video with actors playing out
the scenes that Finally Free portrays. Hell i'd even direct the f'n
thing...if DT wants to make a kick ass video I'd do it!
How many of you would love to see it played out on Screen! it would just be
so cool..kinda like Guns n roses - novemeber rain triplogy ofvideos...why
dont' dream theater do somethign like that! I would just faint in ecstacy!!!
later
blex
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:04:31 -0400
From: "Lauzon, Gary: #IHAB-NGR - AAI-RND" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DT related Tattoo...
Message-ID: <199910271823.LAA26489@fugazi.torchsong.com>
>I have the burning heart on my leg.
>> So people which of you have DT related tatoos?
>> Steve
I may have posted this before.. but I have the burning heart on my right
arm.. with their logo engraved in the flames! it's awesome! email me if you
want to see it, i have a jpg unfortunately it's a bit blurry.
Mr. ProG
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:20:57 -0400
From: Adam Sanford <ahs8t@virginia.edu>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Therapist's voice
Message-ID: <199910271820.OAA147766@unix.mail.Virginia.EDU>
>>
It didnt sound like a english (im presuming you mean from england) accent?
It sounds a lot like Dr Katz (cool cartoon on comedy central) to me heh
>>
No, the accent is definitely Australian, though not someone still living
there. More like an American/Australian, or an Australian living in the
states for a long time. A South African accent is somewhat similar.
Anyone ever watch Adventure Bound with Alby Mangels (it's on discovery or
the travel channel, I forgot which)? The pscyhotherapist sounds EXACTLY
like Alby Mangels!
Adam S.
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:47:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ryan Veety <ryan@ryanspc.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: SFAM story problems
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.20.9910271403450.3895-100000@RyansPC.com>
I've been reading all these ideas on the story, some great idea guys. But
I still have some questions. Every time I listen to the cd I change my
mind as to reincarnation/spirit visiting theory. The hypnotist definatly
said "Now it is time to see how you died." I listened many times to make
sure it wasn't "die." That surely points to reincarnation. But the
problem is that Victoria talks to Nicholas more then once in the
"present". She tells him not to cry at her grave, but to remember her
(sorry, I'm at work and don't have the lyrics with me). So how could they
be the same person? There was another time when she talks to him but I
can't remember now, I'll mention it when I get home tonight. This has
been bothering and I just can't seem to work it out. Oh, another thing,
he refers to Victoria as a friend not a lover, and he said "We'll meet
again my friend someday soon." Did he somehow know he would die soon? I
like the scratching sound at the end meaning his death, it makes perfect
sence. His "record", as in his body, is thrown off track. Now he can't
tell us "living" people his story anymore and there is just noise. A
perfect ending. So does anyone have any text pointing to Nicholas'
age? If the face on the cover is supposed to be him (which is what I
think, and the objects in his face are the Scenes From -his- Meomory) he
looks to be in his 30s, and I don't see too many 71 year olds listening to
DT, but I'm still looking for that station that Nicholas is listening to
in his car =)
Ryan
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:04:58 -0500
From: "Christopher Ptacek" <someone@digitalrodent.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: SPOILERS
Message-ID: <000901bf20ae$2afd39a0$013ca8c0@madstation>
If you accept that once you hear the JFK Jr. report you're in the present,
AND you believe that Edward IS the hypotherapist, in the same life as the
one in which he killed Victoria, then Edward MUST, no ifs ands or buts about
it, MUST be an absolute minimum of 101 years old. the U.S. Constitution
states that one of the requirements of being a U.S. Senator is meeting or
exceeding the minimum age requirement of 30 years old. 1999-1928 = 71+30 =
101. If you believe that we're NOT in the present when we hear the JFK Jr.
report, then I'd just have to ask why we're hearing a report on a critical
and recognizable event from 1999, instead of something current from whatever
timeframe you theorize it to be?
Chris Ptacek - someone@digitalrodent.com
"Everything that can be invented has
been invented." -- Charles H. Duell,
Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:24:15 +0200
From: mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Cc: greatstoat@aol.com, gordon@krawall.de, Beatles2002@yahoo.com,
Subject: My personal Review on SFaM
Message-ID: <m11gYgB-0004sYC@fwd03.btx.dtag.de>
Dream Theater
Metropolis Pt. II - Scenes from a Memory
A Review
Before I begin: A short flashback of what happened
to me before I bought SFaM:
It must have been in early 1996 that a friend of mine
showed me this CD by a group I had never heard of. "You'll
like them", he said. "The drummer is cool." I listened
to "A Change of Seasons" in all its entirety and I was
impressed. I as a drummer myself had never ever heard
such musical perfection on a drumset before, playing
off-beat and not 4/4 most of the time was completely
new to me. In a time where I had never liked most "Metal"
music (except some Metallica every now and again) and
most of my CD-Rack was stuffed with CDs from Roxette and
2 Unlimited -I had, however, always LOVED Queen and thought
the Bohemian Rhapsody Part in "The Great Medley" was
fucking great (better than anything on 'Dragon - A Tribute
to Queen')- , my friend introduced me to the world of
Progressive Rock and how "Metallic" Music and melodic
tunes can come together in harmony.
It didn't take long until I was completely hooked to
Dream Theater. I have every album except OiAL, but
instead I bought the 5YiaL video. Images and Words
was always my favorite with ACoS close thereafter.
In fall 1999 I joined the Ytsejam mailing list, and
boy was that cool! I wanted to know things first
about this new incredible album on the horizon.
Well, we were told not to talk about it, but
anyway I made a few new friends, finally got
my hands on SubConscious (Hey, Olaf!) and
found someone, who will drive me to Cologne,
where I will see OFB live, and I laughed a lot!
You guys are just great!! Monday, I bought the
album, and here is my review:
The album is great. No one and I mean NO ONE
can doubt that. The story is amazing -I still
haven't figured it out- and there is a new era
of musical perfection coming our way. Jordan Ruddess
is THE BEST Keyboard Player Dream Theater had since
Kevin Moore (I have lost track of them... small joke)!
But Still... I have listened to this Album four
times now and I will definitely give it a lot
more listens in the future, but this IS NOT BETTER
THAN I&W - IT JUST ISN'T!!! Let me review the songs
in detail.
ACT ONE
1. Regression: This is a really great entry! The
hypnotherapist's voice (who spoke him, anyway?)
calms you down and then there is this soft guitar
part with a GREAT James LaBrie on Vocals.
2. Overture 1928: THIS SONG RULES!!! It is IMO the
most DT-ish song on the album! It features a lot of
hidden and obvious (the first three chords in the
beginning) references to Met.1. It just has the typical
DT-Sound (high melodic guitar with great drums and
piano in background - as heard on such great songs
as Met.1, Learning to Live and The Darkest Of Winters)
3. Strange Deja-Vu: The Song with the best Chorus
on the whole album! "I just can't help myself..."
makes you want to jump through the room, your body
twitching in audiophile orgasms. In the end, it gets
a bit heavier (I always liked the less heavier songs
better), but that doesn't matter.
4. Through my Words: We're settling down again. There's
not really much to say about this intro to 'Fatal Tragedy'.
5. Fatal Tragedy: Now comes the part of the album which I
didn't like at first, but have learned to like now. Heavy
guitars (you know what I mean by heavy: Like in 'Lie') and
an ever repeating riff in 4/4. This gets (somehow) annoying
when you are listening to the CD over headphones and really
concentrate on the music. Then there is the chorus, which
brings the unregular part of DT back (YOU ARE FUCKING AMAZING,
MIKE!!!!), the scheme carries on and in the end the song gets
a bit messy... but it's still good.
6. Beyond this Life: This Song kicks ass! Great Drums again
and the best song on the album concerning atmosphere and change
of 'tenor'. Except for the part 'Had a violent struggle(...)
losing you', which is just to confusing to follow IMHO, this
song is cool and worth every second of its 11:22. (I have always loved the long
songs! ACoS, Trial of Tears and Learning to Live are the best!)
7. Through her eyes: Come on, we have heard this song before!
It was on the bands last album only that it was called 'Hollow
Years'. If you compare rhythm and melody of the first two lines:
She ne ver really had a chance, on that fateful moonlit night
She's just the kind of girl, you hear a bout
I mean, it's good and all and it gets better in the end and
not as repetitive as Hollow Years, but it is IMHO the weakest
song on the album. And then there's the woman's voice in the
beginning.... I DON'T GET IT? IF you already get a female solo-
ist to sing on the album, why do you give her some 'mmmm' and
'oooh...' on two songs instead of letting her SING VICTORIAS
PARTS OF THE LYRICS?! Think about it, wouldn't that have been
cool?
ACT 2:
8. Home: This song is good and an excellent choice for a
single, but the intro is a bit long. It takes you more than
two minutes before the song actually starts. It also has
the aspect I moaned about in 'Fatal Tragedy'. And the part
in the middle with the different sounds on the left and right
speaker... it's important for the storyline but it bores you
when you listen to it - sorry! In the end the whole soloing
gets just so weird my head hurts when hearing that. A clear
structure becomes nothing more than a scene from my memory,
but still, if you want the best musicians in the world: Listen
to DT!
In the end, you actually think, Metropolis Part 1 starts, but
9. The Dance of Eternity: a big boom destroys your thoughts!
Then you think: Hey, the freaking CD is broken, but then you
realize, that it's only DT taking you on a quick tour through
Metropolis' past. This song is just great if you look at
versatility. That little ragtime piece in between makes you
open your mouth, close it again and kiss the cover. How do you
actually get those kinds of ideas, thanks Jordan! One of the
best songs on the album, if you don't look at it as a whole,
which I am clearly not doing at the moment.
10. One last Time: IMO there is nothing special about this
song, except that it makes great use of atmosphere and changing
between slow and fast just as in 'BTL'.
11. The Spirit Carries On: This Album needed a great ballad
and here it is. I was tempted to say that it's a second '
Anna Lee' but it's a thousand times better, especially in the
end. When they play it at the concert, I think we should all
get out our lighters, wave them and sing: "If we come home
tomorrow, we'll be allright, because we believe, that when we
are gone, DT will carry on!"
12. Finally Free: THE SONG on the album. A great melody that
really makes you think of being finally free. INCREDIBLE
drumming in the end (This man is not human) and a great but
still confusing outtro that makes you yearn for more! But you
can get more, if you just hit 'play' again, hear the album
another time and discover more facets of this incredible masterpiece.
There are a few 'this could've been done better' parts in this
review and if it sounds too negative, I didn't mean it. SFaM is
a G*R*E*A*T Album. I would give it a 9.7 out of 10. But Images
and Words is better, it is 10 out of 10. SFaM just doesn't have
the melodic genius of a PMU, TTT, Surrounded, Met1 or LTL. That's j
ust my opinion. I can't wait to see you rip me apart ;). Until then,
keep on jamming. I hope you had fun reading my review
Alex
from Germany
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* Kjeldoran's should rule supreme. And for the rest ... death! * AVRAM GARRISON
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:25:50 -0700
From: Chris Oates <coates@objy.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: What everyone else is talking about, of course.
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991027122550.00bcb720@objypop>
Why didn't they use a female vocalist for Victoria?
Because all we hear of her is through Nicholas's regressions. Therefore,
it is Victoria speaking _through_ Nicholas, and hence James' voice is perfect.
~Chris
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:27:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rachel Goldenberg <wisha@li.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: misc. ramblings
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.4.10.9910271456380.2121-100000@linet01>
I'm finally almost done listening to the entire new cd for the first time,
no thanks to cdnow, the headphones that died on me this morning at work,
and too many interruptions and phone calls. I really need to listen to
this at home. I did hear parts of the cd last night at the signing on LI.
That was a really great experience; although I thought I'd recognize more
ppl there, some ppl on line just didn't want to talk, and I really
couldn't think of what to say to the band and whatever I did end up saying
probably was uncomprehensive :)
.. I think the band will be on Saturday Night Rocks this wknd, the only
music show left on WNEW 102.7 I still hate the fact that they went
talk, but that's another story.
Glad to see some good discussions going on here.
-Rachel
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:32:59 -0400
From: "Stan Tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5144
Message-ID: <199910271933.MAA29381@fugazi.torchsong.com>
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>From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
>Subject: YTSEJAM digest 5144
>Date: Wed, Oct 27, 1999, 4:18 AM
>
>Does anyone else have this thing on the inside of the case? I got mine at
>Tower Records, so maybe it's strictly a Tower thing. When you open the case
>and lift the CD out, theres a silver strip on the back insert that you can
>see through the clear plastic. Its a silver strip on another silver strip on
>top of white strip that looks like its glued to the back inside case. Is that
>a security thing or something? What the hell is it?
that is a little known V-chip. it serves a purpose, it keeps the musically
illeterate from understanding the intensity, casts avote in every
presidential election, and is Y2K compliant.
no, just kidding, I believe it is a security thing
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:45:34 -0400
From: "Stan Tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: <no subject>
Message-ID: <199910271946.MAA29731@fugazi.torchsong.com>
and ohh yeah, that bad ass guitar riff that opens up Beyond this life -
Simple yet VeRy ass-kicking.
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:41:03 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: US leaders
Message-ID: <3817554F.43959E71@isd.net>
Graham Borland wrote:
>The Miracle can't be the hypnotherapist; whoever heard of a US senator
>with an English accent? ;-)
That's funny! What's really strange watching your nation's President
speaking on television ... Expecting to catch a glimpse of the girl under the
podium. Ala "Police Academy."
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes,
it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:02:00 -0300
From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: SPOILERS
Message-ID: <000f01bf20ad$c00be7e0$37351ec8@yunque.net>
>
> If you accept that once you hear the JFK Jr. report you're in the present,
> AND you believe that Edward IS the hypotherapist, in the same life as the
> one in which he killed Victoria, then Edward MUST, no ifs ands or buts
about
> it, MUST be an absolute minimum of 101 years old. the U.S. Constitution
> states that one of the requirements of being a U.S. Senator is meeting or
> exceeding the minimum age requirement of 30 years old. 1999-1928 = 71+30
=
> 101. If you believe that we're NOT in the present when we hear the JFK
Jr.
> report, then I'd just have to ask why we're hearing a report on a critical
> and recognizable event from 1999, instead of something current from
whatever
> timeframe you theorize it to be?
>
Ok what i believe is that they took the broadcast from any JFK Jr coverage,
and used it on the album, but not to represent the JFK Jr tragedy, but the
tragedy surrounding the US senator.....and that could be set anytime in the
particular modern time.
> Chris Ptacek - someone@digitalrodent.com
> "Everything that can be invented has
> been invented." -- Charles H. Duell,
> Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:07:03 -0300
From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: A Video Should Be Made of Finally Free
Message-ID: <001d01bf20ae$74984dc0$37351ec8@yunque.net>
> I would shit my pants if Dream Theater made a video with actors playing
out
> the scenes that Finally Free portrays. Hell i'd even direct the f'n
> thing...if DT wants to make a kick ass video I'd do it!
>
> How many of you would love to see it played out on Screen! it would just
be
> so cool..kinda like Guns n roses - novemeber rain triplogy ofvideos...why
> dont' dream theater do somethign like that! I would just faint in
ecstacy!!!
>
> later
> blex
It would be cool, but it would require a lot of dough to make it look as
good as the GNR videos, if not, it would look verrrrry cheesy. Also, in last
night's interview, portnoy mentioned that the money theyd spent on "single"
videos, theyd rather spend it on long form/live videos, because afterall DT
isnt a "single" band.
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:05:43 -0400
From: "Chad L. Cook" <ccook@infolibria.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: DT Tattoos
Message-ID: <38175B17.C87D00FC@infolibria.com>
>
> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:27:14 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
> Subject: Re: AW: My thanks to the Band!!!!(spoilers if you care)
> Message-ID: <Pine.HPX.4.10.9910271026470.19242-100000@njmsa.umdnj.edu>
>
> I have the burning heart on my leg.
>
> > So people which of you have DT related tatoos?
> >
> > Steve
> >
I have the majesty logo near my ankle.
Chad
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