YTSEJAM Digest 5148
Today's Topics:
1) Re: DT Tattoos
by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
2) 71 years
by Richard <karies@wxs.nl>
3) Hi and Re
by "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com>
4) Reincarnation
by Daniel Bosen <bosen@ph-cip.Uni-Koeln.DE>
5) Re: jam bands/grassroots promotion
by Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5146
by Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
7) RE: DT Tattoos
by "Lisa Marie Palma" <firegirl@flashcom.net>
8) A message to Bernd...pt 2
by "Christoph" <schroedhelm@gmx.de>
9) **SPOILERS** Body order?
by Matthew Turk <sataiwilco@usa.net>
10) Re: Scenes From A Memory - Review (*****Spoiler?*****)
by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
11) SfaM - Where the hell do they take....
by "Thomas Neubaum" <Thomas.Neubaum@jura.stud.uni-erlangen.de>
12) SfaM Connections
by Compadre32@aol.com
13) Clear as mud
by "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5147
by "Stan Tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5147
by "Stan Tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com>
16) SfaM *SPOILERS*
by "Rob Reid" <booreid@hotmail.com>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5146
by "T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
18) Video Follow up to SFaM
by "Mike & Susan Verstraete" <homewks@sound.net>
19) blathering away about SFAM
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
20) DTC, but NSFAMC
by MTeiper@aol.com
21) still wild
by Thrak75@aol.com
22) PLEASE REPLY TO THIS!!!!
by Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu>
23) Re: blathering away about SFAM
by Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
24) Re: DTC, but NSFAMC
by Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
25) Re: Video Follow up to SFaM
by Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
26) Re: blathering away about SFAM
by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
27) Re: SfaM Connections
by Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:19:59 -0500
From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: DT Tattoos
Message-ID: <B43CC89F.7E4%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
I carved the Majesty symbol in between my eyebrows with a razor blade.
-Brian
> From: "Chad L. Cook" <ccook@infolibria.com>
> Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:14:41 -0700 (PDT)
> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
> Subject: Re: DT Tattoos
>
>
>>
>> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:27:14 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
>> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
>> Subject: Re: AW: My thanks to the Band!!!!(spoilers if you care)
>> Message-ID: <Pine.HPX.4.10.9910271026470.19242-100000@njmsa.umdnj.edu>
>>
>> I have the burning heart on my leg.
>>
>>> So people which of you have DT related tatoos?
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>
> I have the majesty logo near my ankle.
>
> Chad
>
>
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:23:33 +0200
From: Richard <karies@wxs.nl>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: 71 years
Message-ID: <38175F45.131D@wxs.nl>
The person who walks out of the car at the end, who some assume is a
71-year-old Nicholas, is perhaps Nicholas but not that old. If you
listen to much detail then do not forget the detail of the person's
sprightly gait up the stairs to his front door. That's no 71-year-old's
gait.
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:34:07 +0200 From: "Zeusz dA ReAl V0CalISt" <zeusz@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Hi and Re Message-ID: <199910272234070540.00124E29@194.143.224.1>
Hi guys and girls,
Zeus from Hungary is back again from his virtual death.
So see you out there.
ZZZZZ mailto:zeusz@bigfoot.com UIN:7315852 HP:http://RS.irisz.hu/zeusz
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:36:33 +0200 From: Daniel Bosen <bosen@ph-cip.Uni-Koeln.DE> To: "ytsejam@torchsong.com" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Reincarnation Message-ID: <38176251.E7D66ED3@ph-cip.uni-koeln.de>
Hi, all this talk about the story of the CD made me think about reincarnation, you know, things like do I believe in it or not, are we just quite sophisticated machines, or is there something, a soul or spirit or whatever, which "carries on". I don't know, but I must admit, that I think of myself as a "machine" which will stop working, when I die and that's it. Maybe its because I'm a engineer, I really don't know. But I know, that I'm very interested in knowing what others think about this. So I ask you, what do you think about reincarnation? Wow, I think no CD made me think about such things before.
Daniel
N.P.: DT - MII: SFAM
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:26:40 -0500 From: Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: jam bands/grassroots promotion Message-ID: <19991027.154628.11518.0.schnapster@juno.com>
I was actually thinking of how Dave Matthews got his popularity built up through a grass roots following and such. However, with bela Fleck and the Flecktones, I was introduced to them as more of a jazz group, not a "jam band" (although they do have similarities mostly with the folk/bluegrass influences, and the fact that they, well, do jam :). And they're not (at least I haven't seen) playing huge arenas like DMB, Phish, etc. They do get considerable radio airplay on jazz stations, too (and have been for a while, from what I've heard on such stations, of course, those aren't "pop" stations). I'd say that a lot of punk (and related) bands have gained popularity (i.e. The Clash) (albeit a relatively small amount, in some cases (i.e. Fugazi, Black Flag, Minor Threat, Dead Kennedys, Social Distortion, The Misfits, etc.) through sort of a grassroots following (generally fiercly loyal, much like DT fans :), too. The sad thing is that this popularity gave rise to a lot of really shitty "punk" bands (i.e Green Day, Blink 182, etc.). Anyway, I'm through ranting, I'm gonna go listen to SFAM. It's about damn time since I've had it a day and still haven't heard it all).
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:54:32 +0200 From: Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5146 Message-ID: <38161508.D7DE106F@siol.net>
My best friend has a great looking infinity signe on his arm. John said it looks very cool :)
> So people which of you have DT related tatoos? > > Steve >
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:08:36 -0700 From: "Lisa Marie Palma" <firegirl@flashcom.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: DT Tattoos Message-ID: <000201bf20bf$6f1458b0$f9d80a0a@gx266-fw1tm.worldres.com>
> I carved the Majesty symbol in between my eyebrows with a razor blade. > > -Brian
Well, that explains EVERYTHING! ;o)
-- Lisa Marie Palma firegirl@flashcom.net
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:22:39 +0200 From: "Christoph" <schroedhelm@gmx.de> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: A message to Bernd...pt 2 Message-ID: <199910272129.OAA02334@fugazi.torchsong.com>
On 27 Oct 99, at 13:15, Al wrote:
> Bernd, > > With all your praise of Dream Theater's new album, I hope you haven't > lost sight of one important fact... > > You never have to look far to find quality song writing and > musicianship. > > Look in the mirror my friend. > > -- > Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
Oh what a word! This mu=DF have runnergang sin wie =D6l odda? ;o)
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PS: How about trying to top SFAM? Perhaps some concept album?
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Date: 27 Oct 99 18:06:13 EDT From: Matthew Turk <sataiwilco@usa.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: **SPOILERS** Body order? Message-ID: <19991027220613.17502.qmail@nw176.netaddress.usa.net>
Among other questions which I'll post at a later date, I've just got one major one to pose --
We assume that Edward killed both Julian and Victoria in the murder section of Finally Free. BUT -- it says earlier, in the newspaper article, that Julian was *ON TOP* of Victoria. YET -- He says "Open your eyes, Victoria" *after* the first two gunshots and *before* the second two. If so, how did =
Julian's body end up on top of Victoria's - was it Julian, after all?
mjt
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:24:40 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Scenes From A Memory - Review (*****Spoiler?*****) Message-ID: <00bc01bf20ca$0fc95a80$702010ac@clemson.edu>
]From: Jonas Opsal <jonasops@online.no> Subject: Scenes From A Memory - Review (*****Spoiler?*****)
> is included on all of Dream Theater's official releases. The liners were = > a little disappointing to me, as they are in black\white and only = > features the texts for the songs plus the general information (produced = > by... Thanks to... etc.). I was hoping for some pictures of the band, or = > at least some form of colored layout. I guess that's the least important = > thing about the album, but I still miss it.
you dont get it. i think its supposed to look like a Playbill, the booklet they give you at Broadway plays/musicals so you can follow along and see who is in the play and stuff. they made it look like that on purpose. moo.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:35:41 +0100 From: "Thomas Neubaum" <Thomas.Neubaum@jura.stud.uni-erlangen.de> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: SfaM - Where the hell do they take.... Message-ID: <002501bf20d4$340101a0$78f50a0a@sjthneub.dialin.rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
..their awesome creativity from? Alright, I'm into the new album now, and I cant' help agreeing with most of you....I can't think of a more adequate and possibly better review than: Congratulations on this masterpiece to DT and each single band member. We just need to thank you. You've done a hell of a job here - I won't face the need to buy another CD for a long time, since I won't have the time to play ist anyway. Songwriting, melody lines and instrumentation are incredible, revealing these guys' abundance of musical genius. The story and the concept as a whole is perfect, making it impossible to point out a single track (but "Fatal Tragedy" is just not from this world). SfaM is to be mentioned along with the two existing top-of-the-heap-masterpieces of concept albums - Pink Floyd's "The Wall" and "Lamb Lies Down..." by Genesis (and imo, surpasses both of them). J. Petrucci's guitar play and Jordan's keys are compelling and fascinating - complex, yet tight and beautifully melodic. J. Myung's bass play is as intriguing as ever, and as to Mike - is there anything he can't do or keep up with? And there is James' singing, which essentially gave FII its depth....he still has been able to top his former performances. That applies for the whole album, but what is this guy doing on "The Spirit Carries On"? I've never heard a more expressive and colourful voice (and, whoever it was, that's right - it was the line "And vou're only given one shot" that struck me in the first place). To cut a long story short - DT have impressively underlined, that they are in fact unique. It will take years to discover every detail of this album (I'm not sure of having discovered every detail on IAW until the present day), and I'm sure I'll still be enthusiastic about it a decade from now. Now I'm looking forward to seeing them live on November 15th, desperately hoping for at least one track from WDADU (beside Ytse Jam) - German audience is longing for "Only A Matter Of Time", "The Ones Who Help..." or "Killing Hand". So long, you all enjoy SfaM....
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:10:48 EDT From: Compadre32@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SfaM Connections Message-ID: <0.83809ad2.2548e078@aol.com>
Hey jammerz, i havent posted in a very long time because ive tried to put my feelings about the new album into words! Its soo amazing. Its the greatest album that you can listen to all the way through in the fuckin world. And to think, i thought this CD was gonna be LTE 3 with vocals and John Myung on bass. Good thing it was true to the bone Dream Theater. I got a few questions and comments---
1) Which songs are the Chapman stick used on?
2) Why doesnt Jordan write any lyrics? (this is somethin ive always wondered)
3) Is it just me or is that gospel choir a perfect addition to this cd?
4) Was this the first time Jordan was involved with arranging a choir?
5) I dont know if this has been brought up, but I think DT (mainly Mr. Portnoy) should get the story line together and make a tripped out movie like Pink Floyd's "The Wall". I bet Mikey would love to make a movie. A perfect addition to his entertainment career.
Alrighty folks, thats about it. Keep the answers flowin if any of yall find the time.
-YtseTex-
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:03:33 -0700 From: "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Clear as mud Message-ID: <021101bf20cf$801bfc20$2aace1cc@falcon.wlv.esltd.com>
What's all this about reincarnation? It's perfectly clear that this cd is about the world's first successful sex change!
Sheesh, what are you people thinking?
Paul - wondering how everyone else can be so silly... :-)
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:27:59 -0400 From: "Stan Tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5147 Message-ID: <199910272341.QAA04281@fugazi.torchsong.com>
>
>So I still don't get the farm thing...am I just stupid?
the farm is bear track studios. thats it.
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:28:58 -0400 From: "Stan Tyszka" <drumguy@uscom.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5147 Message-ID: <199910272341.QAA04285@fugazi.torchsong.com>
---------- >From: ytsejam@torchsong.com >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Subject: YTSEJAM digest 5147 >Date: Wed, Oct 27, 1999, 4:17 PM >
>) you can hear in the background a fart, and someone giggling and >saying "Hahaha that was a good one Terrance" It's VERY sublte though so >you have to pay close attention.
possibly from south park?
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:58:39 PDT From: "Rob Reid" <booreid@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SfaM *SPOILERS* Message-ID: <19991027235839.43390.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hello Jammers!
First off, this CD rules. It's truly a fantastic effort. The guys should be proud of themselves. Well done! Secondly, on the back page of the booklet (the picture with the newspaper) there are three or four books. You can only read the title of one of them, the rest are out of focus. The title that you can read is a D.H. Lawrence novel, "The Plumed Serpent." Does this have any significance? The book was published in 1926, so maybe it's just a point of reference of the year the murders took place (1928). I just thought that it was strange that all the other titles were out of focus, but not "The Plumed Serpent." Has anyone read this book?
Again, this is a masterpiece and beyond my expectations! I'm so glad that I waited until the 26th to hear anything from SFaM. A wonderful "early" Christmas present. Thanks guys.
Rob Reid Isn't it great that we use *spoilers* now that the veil is lifted! :)
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:05:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5146 Message-ID: <19991028000505.5970.rocketmail@web2104.mail.yahoo.com>
It sounds like JP's fingers on the strings of his acoustic guitar, but it's awfully loud. I'm not sure what else it could be though.
tb
--- ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote:
and can someone tell me wtf that *screach* sound is at 2:24 of FinallyFree?
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:11:40 -0500 From: "Mike & Susan Verstraete" <homewks@sound.net> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Video Follow up to SFaM Message-ID: <001101bf20d9$03372180$925299d1@default>
Since Mr. Portnoy is a film buff, how about a FULL LENGTH video to cover the whole CD (ala Operation:Mindcrime). Maybe open the video with DT playing Met. Pt.1 live, and then cut to actors playing out the scenes as the whole CD acts as a narration/sound track........How about it Mike, would you like to direct?????
Mike
> > I would shit my pants if Dream Theater made a video with actors playing > out > > the scenes that Finally Free portrays. Hell i'd even direct the f'n > > thing...if DT wants to make a kick ass video I'd do it! > > > > How many of you would love to see it played out on Screen! it would just > be > > so cool..kinda like Guns n roses - novemeber rain triplogy ofvideos...why > > dont' dream theater do somethign like that! I would just faint in > ecstacy!!!
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:34:11 PDT From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: blathering away about SFAM Message-ID: <19991028003413.15576.qmail@hotmail.com>
WOW. I don't think I can listen to anything else for weeks, which sucks because I'm gonna go see the String Cheese Incident, Galactic, and the Disco Biscuits all in a row this weekend...oh well A thought entered my mind as I was lisening to all of the Met 1 quotations (musical AND lyrical) on this album: It's gonna suck for the newbies who hear Met2 one BEFORE Met 1. There should be a warning on the package to buy I&W before SFAM, IMHO. I just emailed all my 'semi-into DT' freinds and warned 'em. I almost fell out of my chair laughing at the honky-tonk piano solo in 'The Dance of Eternity', the same way I fell out of my chair laughing at the 'circus melody' from LTE's 'universal mind'....I think it's great that even in this incredibly serious story, they include riff that could only have been meant to be lauged at. One microscopic bit of critisism, however: I think an actual acoustic piano would have fit this album much better than Jordan's piano patch, although that would just be an extra gummy worm on an already thoroughly iced and decorated cake. More on TDoE(am I the first one on the jam to use this acronym!?? whoohoo!!): Myung takes a SICK solo in that song. Despite what my signature suggests, I'm a bass player myself, and Myung is my favorite, because he has absolutely incredible chops, but RARELY flashes 'em...about once an album, I think: WDADU-tapping solo on Ytsejam I&W-tapping solo in Met1 Awake-can't think of one, sorry ACoS-killer unison line with JP, 12:17 FII-flurry of harmonics in Lines in the Sand SFAM-Dance of Eternity I also think it's very cool that he didn't TOUCH the Stick on this record...I can't think of anywhere it would have fit in. That kind of restraint is the essence of JM's style. Listen to 5:45 of track 12...JP sounds like he's about to quote 'that darn titanic song' in his solo, but doesn't...did anyone else notice this? One last thing...I sure hope they DON'T make any music videos for this...that would bastardize the whole thing, IMHO. I like the fact that you can't see the characters, and that the plot is very vague and mysterious...it lets you interpret it any way you want, rather than being TOLD what it's supposed to make you think...Kind of like a book versus a TV show...If DT had meant for the plot to be clear and straightforward, they would have made a movie of M2 rather than writing music for it. Just my opinion. REALLY one last thing this time. This album has to have the coolest ending of any I've ever heard. I already can't wait for Met3...today I embark on the longest ten years of my life =^)...
-Banjoman np: last 30 seconds of SFAM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The scientist's dogma seems awfully religious to me - Ty Tabor ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:37:33 EDT From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DTC, but NSFAMC Message-ID: <0.7a449b00.2548f4cd@aol.com>
> It would be cool, but it would require a lot of dough to make it look as > good as the GNR videos, if not, it would look verrrrry cheesy. Also, in last > night's interview, portnoy mentioned that the money theyd spent on "single" > videos, theyd rather spend it on long form/live videos, because afterall DT > isnt a "single" band.
Like my newly invented acronym? :-) Yes, that's right... Non-SFAM Content here, although I will very quickly throw my 2 cents in here and say that the album is fucking AMAZING... could be their best ever. OUTSTANDING JOB, GUYS!!!
Now then, onto my post... seeing Mike talk about the "spending money on a video" issue has reminded me of some questions I'd been meaning to ask for some time here. First off, I'm not a musician, and obviously have never been in a band or anything, so I really don't know the answers to these.
I was wondering some time ago who actually pays for what in a band/record label relationship? The way I figure it, a band signs a contract with a label, and the label pays them perhaps a flat rate per album, plus a small percentage of all albums sold. That said, who pays for music videos, for example? From the sound of what Mike's saying, the band would. But wouldn't it be in the label's best interest to pay for a video to get the band/song promoted?
Mike also hints that they would have to shell out money to make a home video... again, wouldn't the label want to subsidize this sort of thing to eventually make a profit? I assume that the label would still get a sizable chunk of all revenue for home video, much like an album. So the concept really doesn't make sense here - the band would pay to make a video that the label would make almost all profit on.
Also, what's the deal with actually making albums? For example: studio time, producers, etc. Does the band have to shell out all of this out of their pockets too, or does the label pay for it?
And finally, touring? Wouldn't the label want to support a band's tour so that they get more publicity, therefore selling more CD's, etc.
I guess in general, I don't understand the band/label relationship very well. If anyone can shed any light on this, I'd be most grateful. Maybe Mike himself??
Thanx, and now back to your regularly scheduled SFAM analysis... Matt T.
NP: What else?? :-)
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:09:23 EDT From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: still wild Message-ID: <0.1091e58e.2548fc43@aol.com>
hey there. it's been a long time. i'm not on the jam (i don't even know if this'll go through), but i just wanted to give mad phat props to all the "aged veterans" who remember me from days passed.
that, and i just picked up "scenes" today. i haven't even finished listening to it, and i'm already like, "damn."
i'm just glad to see that dt's still running wild, even after the departure of derek. he might not have been popular to some, but i thought dt was in deep shit. jordan, who we ALL know can rock the house, still had me a little worried, there.
worry no more. this album's gonna fuck some heads up. peace out. wild koba
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:38:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: PLEASE REPLY TO THIS!!!! Message-ID: <199910280138.VAA17292@polaris.sju.edu.sju.edu>
Ok, I posted this yesterday, and I don't think anyone replied, though I might have missed it in the sea of posts that have been pumped through the net :) Does anyone other than myself hear Eve and To Live Forever in Through Her Eyes???? Listen to the piano part at times in it.....it sounds a lot like the guitar opening in To Live Forever. Also, the guitar part in Through her Eyes seems to me to be very reminiscent of the guitar solo in Eve (also the the solo I am talking about is the same melody as the piano opening in Eve) Someone else must hear this, or maybe I am just going nuts :) Stephen La Monica
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:56:39 -0400 From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: blathering away about SFAM Message-ID: <3817AD57.E3799041@yunque.net>
Fran Brennan wrote:
> I almost fell out of my chair laughing at the honky-tonk piano solo > in 'The Dance of Eternity', the same way I fell out of my chair laughing at > the 'circus melody' from LTE's 'universal mind'....I think it's great that > even in this incredibly serious story, they include riff that could only > have been meant to be lauged at.
Well i feel that little bit on TDOE has its place in the story, since that kind of ragtime(?) music is music from the 1920's/30's. Sounds like something out of Johny Dangerously ( heh ) And in that sense "fits" the storyline.
> Listen to 5:45 of track 12...JP sounds like he's about to quote 'that > darn titanic song' in his solo, but doesn't...did anyone else notice this?
It does have a ring to it...altho that whole lead sounds more like one of the leads out of Age of Impact more than anything..
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:00:21 -0400 From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DTC, but NSFAMC Message-ID: <3817AE35.667B6E90@yunque.net>
MTeiper@aol.com wrote:
> > > Now then, onto my post... seeing Mike talk about the "spending money on a > video" issue has reminded me of some questions I'd been meaning to ask for > some time here. First off, I'm not a musician, and obviously have never been > in a band or anything, so I really don't know the answers to these.
Those *are* good questions...anyone care to comment? It would be my guess that in the case of a more popular hit single band, the label would take the expenses, since theyre raking in the big bucks with sales, but in DT's case, maybe they have to pay for some things, like the videos and/or video releases. Im pretty sure DT doesnt pay for its tour...since thats even more down the line ..for unsigned bands or bands signed to magna carta :)
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:02:40 -0400 From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Video Follow up to SFaM Message-ID: <3817AEC0.6822799@yunque.net>
Mike & Susan Verstraete wrote:
> Since Mr. Portnoy is a film buff, how about a FULL LENGTH video to cover the > whole CD (ala Operation:Mindcrime). Maybe open the video with DT playing > Met. Pt.1 live, and then cut to actors playing out the scenes as the whole > CD acts as a narration/sound track........How about it Mike, would you like > to direct?????
I think it would cost way too much money for it to happen.. or at least for it to be actually *decent*. Films are very expensive, even if we jammers volunteer to be cast/crew. :)
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:59:21 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: blathering away about SFAM Message-ID: <01f201bf20e8$0d2519e0$702010ac@clemson.edu>
]From: Fran Brennan <okelnard@hotmail.com> Subject: blathering away about SFAM
> WDADU-tapping solo on Ytsejam > I&W-tapping solo in Met1 > Awake-can't think of one, sorry
well, its not as obvious and in your face as the other examples, but the little (i assume) improvisational runs he does during the segue from Erotomania to Voices are quite impressive. moo.
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:07:42 -0400 From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: SfaM Connections Message-ID: <3817AFEE.BB7E72E0@yunque.net>
Compadre32@aol.com wrote:
> > 1) Which songs are the Chapman stick used on?
I dont think JM used any chapman stick on this album.
> > 2) Why doesnt Jordan write any lyrics? (this is somethin ive always > wondered)
I think that is because since when the album was written he had just joined the band, he had his hands full with the music. ( he also mentioned this in the interview last night, that hed love to write lyrics in the future, but in the sfam sessions there was too much going on with the musical side, plus learning stuff from the earlier albums too i guess, since they mentioned they had a pretty nice surprise going for the upcoming world tour in y2k)
> > 3) Is it just me or is that gospel choir a perfect addition to this cd?
Hell yeah! Second only to what its been mentioned already of an actual female singer doing Victorias parts, or at least, since someone mentioned that since she is being channeled thru Nicholas, it wouldve been cool at least have james sing the lines with the female vocalist (Like he does all the Victoria lines, but instead of him singing both high and low register, get a real girl to sing the high register with himl , ie: imagine Anneke van Giersbergen dueting with James on Strange dejavu!)
> > 5) I dont know if this has been brought up, but I think DT (mainly Mr. > Portnoy) should get the story line together and make a tripped out movie like > Pink Floyd's "The Wall". I bet Mikey would love to make a movie. A perfect > addition to his entertainment career.
I feel that it would be too expensive for them to make a movie..i mean its a 5 minute long video and the best theyve done is the Hollow Years one..(which is pretty good ImO, but dont cut it for a whole movie)
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