YTSEJAM digest 5139

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Tue Oct 26 1999 - 02:44:26 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5139

    Today's Topics:

      1) Vitalij Kuprij
     by Matt Guillory <mguillory@verio.net>
      2) Re: Many Returns
     by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
      3) NEW DT!!!(not a spoiler)
     by Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu>
      4) Re: THE UNVEILING!!!!!!!
     by "scott@powerup.com.au" <scott@powerup.com.au>
      5) SMPTe
     by "Dan Meyers" <dabda@hotmail.com>
      6) Re: Tuonela and free servers
     by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
      7) Re: free servers
     by JamesAhab@aol.com
      8) IM VERY DISSAPOINTED IN DT!!!!!!!!!(spoilers)!!!!!!!!!!
     by Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
      9) The Veil
     by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
     10) Re: Oh no
     by "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu>
     11) No holds Barred Radio
     by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
     12) No holds Barred Radio
     by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
     13) Re: amazon.com sucks
     by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
     14) Keyboard wizards
     by "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
     15) [Fwd: Dream Theater]
     by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
     16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5137
     by Brian Deuel <bdeuel@pathwaynet.com>
     17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5136
     by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
     18) Re: free servers?
     by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
     19) Re: SMPTe
     by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
     20) SFaM Veil Lifted...FINALLY!!!
     by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
     21) My earlier post...SORRY!!!
     by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
     22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5132
     by "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu>
     23) me want new DT!
     by Adrian K Tunggono <pluki7@indosat.net.id>
     24) SFAM etc.
     by Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
     25) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5137
     by "Guido Mercati" <mercatig@iol.it>
     26) jimi/stevie
     by "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:46:10 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Matt Guillory <mguillory@verio.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Vitalij Kuprij
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910251738590.1194-100000@flea.best.net>

    Yo,

    Re: Vitalij

    I've always pronounced it as Veh-tal-ee

    He's never corrected me, so either he's very polite, or I'm right! ;)

    -Matt

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    Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 02:55:00 +0200
    From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Many Returns
    Message-ID: <3814FBE4.BA034D2F@home.se>

    Someone wrote:

    > PS-To Birzer-how come your messages in the digests are the only ones that
    > scroll off the page? Ever hear of a return key? It gets real annoying
    > having to horizontally scroll to read.

    The simple solution (for Netscape users) is to check the "wrap incoming
    messages" box in preferences > mail & newsgroups > messages.

    --
    Andreas Skarin
    Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet
    http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:sdts@home.se
    

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:18:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: NEW DT!!!(not a spoiler) Message-ID: <199910260118.VAA15344@polaris.sju.edu.sju.edu>

    I was lucky enough to purchase Scenes from a Memory today...Simply incredible Anyone who was disappointed with FII need not worry about this one. Can't wait to chat about the cd, but I don't want to ruin it for anyone who didn't purchase it yet Happy listening

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    Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 01:29:59 "GMT" From: "scott@powerup.com.au" <scott@powerup.com.au> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: THE UNVEILING!!!!!!! Message-ID: <199910260129.LAA16272@fep8.mail.ozemail.net>

    > As of Midnight tonight New York time, the veil is > OFFICIALLY lifted..... > (not that everybody seemed to care anyway) > > So POST AWAY after Midnight!!!

    Yippee.

    Now, Mike, can you please make a phone call to your Australian distributor so I can find out when I can buy the CD and start reading the 'jam again? ;)

    Gordo

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:39:37 PDT From: "Dan Meyers" <dabda@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SMPTe Message-ID: <19991026013937.40152.qmail@hotmail.com>

    >Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:39:19 -0700 >From: Lisa Marie Palma <firegirl@FLASHCOM.NET> >To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >Subject: side project >Message-ID: <3.0.32.19991025163618.02334b68@mail.flashcom.net> > > >Okay, for the time being, the project name is "Second Nature" and the album >title is "SMPTe"...

    which stands for "Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers"

    kewl.

    later fiends, dan

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:49:48 -0700 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Tuonela and free servers Message-ID: <381508BC.80E4EBF0@ucla.edu>

    As for Tuonela.. I listed to the verse in the title track where they say "Tuonela". They say it "Two-nuh-LAH" but the first syllable is long. It's almost as if someone snuck another syllable in there so it sounds a bit like "Two-uh-nuh-LAH". i gotta stop taking these linguistics courses.

    Free servers? Do NOT got to crosswinds.net. As far as I know, they still do not have a decent FTP server. Last I heard, when I emailed support, the FTP server sucks rocks and connecting via FTP session is near impossible. You must upload through your browser, so people using Web TV or that have javascript disabled are screwed. They banned me for a month from uploading, because they thought I was connecting with multiple machines. What was really happening was that my session kept getting interrupted and I'd get booted, then have to reconnect. They had a big thing on their front page saying that they were sick of people complaining about the suckage of their FTP, and it was our fault for not clicking on their banners. They also threatened to ban people who complained too frequently about the troubles with uploading. Yeah, I have some beef with these folks.

    You can always come to AcmeCity (;P just had to say that since I "work" there). Only thing is you cannot upload files larger than 1 MB. But that's better than the 250 KB at DenCity.

    -- Amanda web in my eyes -- a Depeche Mode file archive http://depechemode.acmecity.com/kaleid/9/

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:15:57 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: free servers Message-ID: <0.7617edc5.254668dd@aol.com>

    The best webspace provdier out there is definitely arealcity...arealcity.com. free unlimited space, and it doesnt suck like crosswinds

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:21:19 -0400 From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: IM VERY DISSAPOINTED IN DT!!!!!!!!!(spoilers)!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <3815101F.141D54D0@yunque.net>

    IM VERY DISSAPOINTED IN DT!!!!!!!! I WAS EXPECTING I&W PART 2 WHEN EVERYONE IS SAYING HOW MUCH GOOD THIS CD IS, BUT WHAT IS THIS?!!!!!!!!! PUFF DADDY HAS NO PLACE ON A DREAM THEATER CD!!!!!!!!!

    Now seriously , I just got my retail copy and obviously this cd is marvelous. Anyways, ive been discussing with my friends, about how a lot of the first half of this cd sounds a lot like it was written with Derek on keys , now were curious on how much of SFAM is leftover from when they had written met2 with DS. The keyboard parts on track 2, 3, and the beginning of home specifically are VERY derek-style IOHO (in our) Now that got us thinking, and i wish i could get a straight answer from someone with knowhow preferably mike..is that id like to know if anything was used from the previous met2. Since making a concept album THIS good is not something that easy to achieve and to do in a write/record kind of way. Aside from that well, i could use without the full minute of r&b vocalizing on through her eyes (half a minute wouldve been better) and well some of JR's sounds. All in all im very pleased with Jordan's work, specially within the band enviroment itself ( i dont care much for his solos, but his work within the rest of the band is awesome) I was/am one of the few die hard derek fans, and was a bit aprehensive, because i had gotten used to the ballz and chunk that DS added to the keys, but Jordan's work is awesome, at least in the full band spectrum of playing...derek is still my pick for memorable leads....ALTHOUGH the double leads with JP that JR does are truly SICK. Now, little Mikey...all i can say is GODDAMN. I have a very good friend who is an awesome drummer, and usually can do a lot of what mike can do...like emulating him...but he is truly scared now...id love to know if there are any drum overdubs on this cd? :) I doubt it but who knows...Jaimz laBrie is singing his best IMO. His voice sounds gorgeous, passionate, emotional... Myung as always is very solid and well the man is sick too! JP is experimenting a bit with some sounds he previously didnt use, althought some leads seem right out of Explorer's club...but well..they are still Awesome, and i feel hes grown a lot, in the "feel" side of playing and in overall guitar quality, than in soloing technique. (IMO you can only have as much technique, but you can never have enough feel, emotion, sense of melody, and good phrasing, and JP has tons of the latter, even if there is always room to get beter) . Oh well ..like i said IM VERY DISSAPOINTED!! =)

    --

    Without love, without truth, there can be no turning back. Without faith, without hope, there can be no peace of mind. Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:20:48 -0500 From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The Veil Message-ID: <19991025212048.A53418@enteract.com>

    Hmm. This is an interesting situation. We have an American nationalistic kind of vibe going on, and we have an anti American vibe going on, and we have an indifferent vibe going on, and we have a couple assholes who are posting reviews of the album without spoiler warnings.

    Does anyone else find it a little disheartening that some people are sort of at odds with each other here, even though we're all pretty much into the same things? It's wild. Racism/ignorance in a new Dream Theater form. That's really fucking sad.

    Anyways, I just wish that those of you from other nations who have complained about having to adhere to this "Veil of Secrecy" would realize that it was Mike Portnoy's idea, and it does sort of make sense. I don't think the band will ever try to do something like that again... it seems like it was just a big pain in the butt. And I, for one, will certainly put ***SPOILERS*** in any new album posts for a while, until most people have had a reasonable chance to get the album. I also think that there are a couple American fans who ought to consider what they say a little more, rather than say "It's an American band, so screw off" or something like that. I don't think it got that bad, but you know what I mean. No reason to divide the group up!

    Wow. I'll shut up now.

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:40:02 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@clemson.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Oh no Message-ID: <00d201bf1f5b$6b4c22e0$702010ac@clemson.edu>

    ]From: Drew Schinzel <schi2299@fredonia.edu> Subject: Oh no

    > This isn't looking too good. I just checked the status of my SFAM > pre-order, and it's showing it on backorder already. I -hope- this is > just some mistaken middle ground between "order in process" (which it was > shown as this morning) and "shipping," but I doubt it. Let's hope it

    i was sort of expecting this. DT obviously wasnt expected to do as well as they have (like getting on the top 10), so i doubt CDnow ordered enough of their CDs to support that kind of demand. even before that started happening i refused to preorder it from cdnow cuz i knew there was little chance of getting it on time - once they started climbing the charts, i knew all hope was lost :) moo.

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:43:50 -0700 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: Pc Audio mailing list <pc-audio@egroups.com>, Subject: No holds Barred Radio Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991025224128.00957be0@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>

    Well, Tuesday is almost here, meaning that there will definitely be another episode of No Holds barred radio polluting the internet. This week, we are going to do most of what we did last week. Be generally annoying, rude and obnoxious. I have to take my revenge on my radio partner for making fun of me publicly, and we may play some tracks off of the new Dream Theater CD if, 1. they are requested, 2. they are under 10 minutes long, and 3. if Mike will let me. Tune in by pointing winamp to 216.32.166.89:21944, or goto http://www.nhbradio.com. To make things easier, just open the attachment. I promise the only ill effects it will have on your computer is hearing us. Tommorrow night from 8 to 11 p.m. eastern time.

    -- Damon Fibraio dfibraio@home.com computer consultant, musician, radio broadcaster, and public nuisance Listen to No Holds Barred Radio every Tuesday night from 8 to 11 p.m. Eastern time. go to http://www.nhbradio.com for more details or point winamp to 216.32.166.89:21944. Comedy on the Internet. "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take the Time, Images and Words

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:44:37 -0700 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: Pc Audio mailing list <pc-audio@egroups.com>, Subject: No holds Barred Radio Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991025224413.00966140@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>

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    Forgot attachment. Well, Tuesday is almost here, meaning that there will definitely be another episode of No Holds barred radio polluting the internet. This week, we are going to do most of what we did last week. Be generally annoying, rude and obnoxious. I have to take my revenge on my radio partner for making fun of me publicly, and we may play some tracks off of the new Dream Theater CD if, 1. they are requested, 2. they are under 10 minutes long, and 3. if Mike will let me. Tune in by pointing winamp to 216.32.166.89:21944, or goto http://www.nhbradio.com. To make things easier, just open the attachment. I promise the only ill effects it will have on your computer is hearing us. Tommorrow night from 8 to 11 p.m. eastern time. --=====================_1152834==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

    [playlist] File1=http://216.32.166.89:21944 Title1=http://216.32.166.89:21944 Length1=-1 NumberOfEntries=1 Version=2

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    -- Damon Fibraio dfibraio@home.com computer consultant, musician, radio broadcaster, and public nuisance Listen to No Holds Barred Radio every Tuesday night from 8 to 11 p.m. Eastern time. go to http://www.nhbradio.com for more details or point winamp to 216.32.166.89:21944. Comedy on the Internet. "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take the Time, Images and Words --=====================_1152834==_--

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:56:20 -0700 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: amazon.com sucks Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991025225556.009ac640@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>

    James. The computer rads to me through synthetic speech generated by the sound card using a special program designed to read the screen. At 08:35 PM 10/23/99 , you wrote:

    > >< Trent, i did open it, I had no sighted help around at he time, (I am >blind) and when I put it in the CD player, that ended any hope of a refund. > >< > >I hope you're not insulted by my asking this, but how do you read the >computer screen? I've always wondered this. I thought I heard something about >monitors for the blind, but I don't see how that's possible (I'm sure it is). > >JB > >np - spock's beard: kindness of strangers

    -- Damon Fibraio dfibraio@home.com computer consultant, musician, radio broadcaster, and public nuisance Listen to No Holds Barred Radio every Tuesday night from 8 to 11 p.m. Eastern time. go to http://www.nhbradio.com for more details or point winamp to 216.32.166.89:21944. Comedy on the Internet. "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take the Time, Images and Words

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    Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:54:35 -0200 From: "Adriano F. Giacomini" <randy_rhoads@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Keyboard wizards Message-ID: <199910251954161@randy_rhoads.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    I remember that a few days ago somebody posted some comments about Derek's departure from the band, and said he'd like to have seen an ex-Malmsteen keyboardist take over DT's keys (or something like that, I don't remember his exact words)... I know I probably should've talked about this earlier, being this the eve of the most antecipated day in a while for most jammers... But, assuming that the guy he was talking about was Jens Johansson, I've only 2 words to say about that: Fuck yeah!!!! I mean, nobody can argue Jordan's "dominance" of his Kurzweil, but Jens has been my favorite keyboard player since I've first heard him play with Malmsteen, and I always felt that he wasn't able to explore his full potential with Yngwie, in spite of all the great thinks he did... Now with Stratovarius he just continues to blow me away... I know Jens is on this list, and I remember reading somewhere he was one of the guys who auditioned to replace KevMo, if I'm not mistaken... Does anybody know (Jens?) if there is any tape of his audition available? I'd die to listen to that...

    Well, having gotten that out of my mind, I must say that I think Jordan's gonna have us all wondering: "How the hell does he do that?" with his playing on SFaM... :-) Hopefully, I'll be able to get a hold of the album by the end of the week, so I guess my curiosity won't last much longer... :-)

    Later, Adriano

    "A daily dose of eMpTyV will flush your mind right down the drain" DREAM THEATER Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ___________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:45:01 -0400 From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: [Fwd: Dream Theater] Message-ID: <381523BD.46D898E5@wezl.org>

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    Return-Path: BusDriver@TheTourBus.com Received: from lance.LANCEPRODUCTIONS.COM (www.lanceproductions.com [206.99.94.41]) by infinite.wezl.org (8.8.7/wezl.org+pimp) with ESMTP id LAA11621 for <emoeglin@wezl.org>; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:14:02 -0400 Received: from icnt ([216.70.157.252]) by lance.LANCEPRODUCTIONS.COM (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57118U1000L100S0V35) with SMTP id COM for <emoeglin@wezl.org>; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:10:52 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991025105515.007ad740@206.99.94.41> X-Sender: ttb_busdriver@206.99.94.41 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:55:15 -0400 To: emoeglin@wezl.org ]From: "The Tour Bus - Bus Driver" <BusDriver@TheTourBus.com> Subject: Dream Theater Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

    Hi.

    I See that you host the Dream Theater webring...

    I am emailing to tell you that Dream Theater will be performing Live on the Radio this Saturday night on WDHA 105.5 FM's new show 'The Tour Bus' The show is on every Saturday night from 8pm to 1am.

    This Saturday Dream Theater will be interviewed, we will be playing some new songs from the album, and they will be performing live. You can hear the whole thing no matter where in the world you are. If you live in Ny/Nj tune us in WDHA 105.5 FM but if you live anywhere else in the world go to the web site www.thetourbus.com or www.wdhafm.com and tune in the live audio when the show is live on the air.

    The big news is that if you go now to www.thetourbus.com and post a question to ask Dream Theater on the Dream Theater msg board, and we read it live on the air. You will win an autographed CD from the band!

    Please spread the word to all Dream Theater Fans.

    Ralph www.thetourbus.com

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:52:50 -0400 From: Brian Deuel <bdeuel@pathwaynet.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5137 Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991025233402.00b11320@mail.pathwaynet.com>

    >What does everyone think of Saga? > >The reason I ask is that I recently aquired thier "Defining Moments" CD, = >which >is basically a best of, and I am really digging it. >I wouldn't call them "prog" myself, but there are prog-ish elements, and = >even >some stuff that reminded me a little of DT. >Anyone?

    Saga is great! "Defining..." was the first album of theirs that I picked up after 15 years of NOT hearing them. They had a few minor hits in the US back in the early '80s (On The Loose, Wind Him Up, The Flyer, Catwalk) then seemed to disappear. They just released a new album called Full Circle overseas, and all of the Americans on the Sagafans list are waiting for CDNOW to pick it up :) Here is my (maybe slightly flawed, anyone can correct me if I'm wrong) summary of Saga:

    The early Saga albums (Saga, Images At Twilight, Silent Knight) were most definitely prog by any standard definition, but they started to drift more towards a commercial sound with their World's Apart album (which is a must-own for any Saga fan). They took it even further with the Heads Or Tales LP (my favorite! Catwalk, The Pitchman, Intermission, and The Flyer are just incredible songs). Two of the members then left the band, and they stayed within this commercial realm for the next few albums (as evidenced by "Defining...."), using studio drummers and another keyboardist. The two members that left then returned in 1994 for the excellent The Security Of Illusion album. With this album, they started a return to a more prog- oriented sound. The concept album Generation 13 followed, and then Pleasure and Pain. I have heard mixed reactions to P&P, but I've only heard a couple of (live) songs from it, so I cannot give my opinion. As for Full Circle, all of the fans on the list say that it's a return to their old sound. Sure would like to hear it for myself, but that's not an easy task at the moment.

    Funny thing is, when I really got into Saga, I wasn't a DT fan by any means, and I thought it would be great to see Saga live. They haven't toured the US since 1984, and my thoughts were that DT would be a great band for them to pair up with. And this thought led me to pick up I&W, which leads me to here!

    Well, that's that. Oh, and I GOT MY CDNOW CONFIRMATION!!!!! Hope to get the album tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Brian Deuel bdeuel@pathwaynet.com http://coinop.vintagegaming.com

    In my CD player: Split Enz- History Never Repeats (The Best of Split Enz)

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    Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:08:25 +0200 From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5136 Message-ID: <38152939.FB7B0BFE@home.se>

    Majesty1 wrote:

    > No prononciation of Vanden Plas is Van (like the van) den (as for Dragon's > Den from SymphonyX) Plas (like the "a" in van)

    On behalf of everyone, I'd just like to say: What are you talking about? -- Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:sdts@home.se

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    Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:08:42 +0200 From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: free servers? Message-ID: <3815294A.F6072426@home.se>

    The Gatherer wrote:

    > www.crosswinds.net > > You get unlimited space and no banners but in the agreement you can't have > mp3s, put them in zips and I don't think they'll mind

    The best way to hide your mp3's is to rename them to *.pdf, *.jpg or something unsuspicious.

    Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:sdts@home.se

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    Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 06:08:49 +0200 From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: SMPTe Message-ID: <38152951.84DDD3AE@home.se>

    > From: Lisa Marie Palma <firegirl@FLASHCOM.NET> > Okay, for the time being, the project name is "Second Nature" and the album > title is "SMPTe"...

    Eh......Stolt, Morse, Portnoy, Trewavas, but what's with the "e" at the end?

    Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater Sallskapet http://sdts.cjb.net - mailto:sdts@home.se

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    Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:24:05 -0400 From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SFaM Veil Lifted...FINALLY!!! Message-ID: <38152CE5.9973DF6C@wezl.org>

    So now after a month or so of listening, I can FINALLY Say...This Album RULES!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats Mike, John, John, Jordan, and James on a perfect masterpiece!

    Also for the last month I've been playing this CD in my store (FSU Students go to the Cd Warehouse on West Pensacola street...that's me) and the response has been HUGE!!! We've ended up ordering more DT CD's for tomorrows release than we are STP, Bush, or Alice in Chains...not to mention that the owner (a good friend of mine) has given me permission to order a crap-load of P.O.P. for the store (Posters, Flats, Stickers...etc) So we'll see how all that stuff goes...I'm in VERY tight with my distributer, and she said she'd totally hook me up with cool DT stuff...who knows, maybe I'll hook some of you guys up.

    As for this whoole radio bombardment thingy...just play the CD for people you know, if you're in a position to legally broadcast the album (radio, music store, etc) play it, and discuss it with people...the music speaks for itself, and all these people need is the proper direction for aquiring the CD. C-ya!

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    Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 00:25:52 -0400 From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: My earlier post...SORRY!!! Message-ID: <38152D50.EA6B1C90@wezl.org>

    Ooops, I forwarded something to the jam, and it had all this stupid Mime and HTML garbage, I'm VERY sorry for this!!!

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    Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 01:12:14 -0400 From: "Josh Calkin" <j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5132 Message-ID: <02d001bf1f70$aaefbe60$47ab889e@plymouth.edu>

    Guido Mercati wrote: > You all,American fans,are too trendy to understand and love an album like= > Metropolis II.

    Oh, I see. And I suppose that the reason you like M2 is because you're so open-minded? ;)

    Mark C. Healey wrote: <Is this list an Americans only club? Only Skadz club?? Why should you ask others> <to refrain from discussing SFaM until late Tuesday morning when some won't get> <the record> <for several days later or even weeks. So then what's fair for you and Europe>

    The fact of the matter is, everyone on the 'jam has access to the internet, and as such they can order it by/on the 26th. True, Europe got it early, but the rest of us ask that they refrain from ruining the disc for us until the 26th b/c we have NO WAY to get it prior to that date. After the official date, EVERYONE on the 'jam can get it, so we are free to discuss it. Unless, of course, it goes on backorder or something...

    I apologize if I've just restated things said a hundred times before, but I was away for the weekend and couldn't read the 'jam. As such, I just went thru 367 new messages. Worst possible time to be away from the 'jam, IMO.

    Regards, Josh Calkin: URL: http://members.tripod.com/~DarkHarmony E-Mail: darkharmony13@hotmail.com j_calkin@oz.plymouth.edu ICQ: 22473371 AOL IM: Mortua IRC: Mortua

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    Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 01:48:24 +0700 From: Adrian K Tunggono <pluki7@indosat.net.id> To: ~status seekers <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: me want new DT! Message-ID: <3814A5EC.EA210099@indosat.net.id>

    Yo, Singaporean jammers! Any sign of the new DT in your stores yet? A few of my relatives and friends will be there around November 10th or so, and I'm kinda hoping...

    As to all of you, it's already October 26th here, and in Oz, NZ, Ph, Sg and Ma. And every small country around us. May we start discussing the CD now or must we wait till it's 26th in the West Coast? That would, what, about 12 more hours? What about Alaska? And Hawaii?

    Ooohh, the anticipation... -- pluki 8498006

    "You can fight without ever winning But never ever win without a fight"

    -N. Peart

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    Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:11:19 +0200 From: Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SFAM etc. Message-ID: <3814B967.65005DA5@siol.net>

    Anyone noticed how our boys listened to all our wishes, bitching, ranting, moaning etc. etc. :) I mean, they even went back to old font!! :) Our faithful drummer has been listening, GOOD JOB MIKE! :)

    To all of you who just got the album, listen to it at least 5 times before you post a review.

    I'd like to thank the band for making the most kickass album, DREAM THEATER FUCKIN' RULES!

    And for those of you who wish to participate in radio attack, here's a radio list from the official home page: http://www.dreamtheater.net/air-idx.htm

    I wanna hear, who beside me, will send request emails to ALL of them :)

    Carpe Diem!

    Matej

    P.S.

    Itchy, nice job on the page :)

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    Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:27:55 +0100 From: "Guido Mercati" <mercatig@iol.it> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5137 Message-ID: <199910260827550460.0013135D@mail.iol.it>

    Metropolis II:Scenes from a memory is definetely the BEST album ever made= by someone on this Earth. I've got no words to review this INCREDIBLE album. It's absolutely= unbelievible. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=

    GUITAR CHEF c/o Guido Mercati via Ilario Tabarri,5 47100 - Forl=EC (FO) Italy - Europe http://auditorium.it.fortunecity.com/strumento/4

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    Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:30:32 +1000 From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: jimi/stevie Message-ID: <38154A88.DC5E7DA9@alphalink.com.au>

    yer i think your right in some ways. Stevie definately had an awsome technique, tone and touch that Jimi couldnt match. but i think Stevie really lacked in the creativity department when compared to Jimi. Remember when Jimi came out there was nothing like it out there, and in fact there hasn't been anything like it since. Also, I remember a quote from Stevie himself which was something like- "I'm nowhere near as good as Jimi Hendrix. I can't play every rhythm known to man, behind my back with my teeth, while singing and smoking pot." You have to give Jimi credit for the fact that most of the time he was playing he was half asleep on another planet.

    > I do... Actually, I do think Steve, as a guitarist, was much > better than Hendrix... No, I don't discuss Hendrix's > importance to guitar history, that can't be argued... > I discuss this with an uncle of mine who grew up listening > to Hendrix all the time, and he still can't conceive I think > Steve is better... > And I do agree his style fit "Little Wing" much better than > Hendrix's... On the tone department, however, you have to > remember that Hendrix's version was recorded 17 years > earlier, and I'm no tone expert, but sound tecnology > must've improved a lot during that time... And, after all, > it was Jimi who came up with the original stuff... :-)

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