YTSEJAM Digest 5138
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Other Stuff
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
2) Re: Other Stuff
by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
3) re: how do you pronounce?
by Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
4) Re: Pronounciations
by Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
5) 98 Rock
by "Jason Birzer" <longshot@pressroom.com>
6) Re: Prog music suggestions
by Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
7) Re: SFaM In CDnow Top 10!!! *Album cover spoilers!!!*
by Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5136
by jammindude@webtv.net (Ben Straley)
9) Re: home/tool
by The Gatherer <gatherer@louisville.crosswinds.net>
10) Re: free servers?
by The Gatherer <gatherer@louisville.crosswinds.net>
11) Re: Home
by The Gatherer <gatherer@louisville.crosswinds.net>
12) Re: CD NOW delivers!!!
by Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
13) Speaking of Best Buy
by Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
14) THE UNVEILING!!!!!!!
by Portnoy420@aol.com
15) Re: Fear Factory
by Wes Foll <follwes@sc.llu.edu>
16) One more friggin day!!!
by "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com>
17) Hukd En Fonecks Wurcz Phor Mee!
by "Chuck Reis" <korgx3@safelink.net>
18) Re: free servers?
by "Edward Polzin" <polzin@mindspring.com>
19) Pronouncing Myung
by Bunny1682@aol.com
20) Re: SFAM, CDNOW, and BACKORDERS
by Wes Foll <follwes@sc.llu.edu>
21) Re: Fear Factory
by Bracken MacLeod <anitya@erols.com>
22) Subconscious
by Bracken MacLeod <anitya@erols.com>
23) RE: The Little Brother Test
by "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com>
24) Stores open late???
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
25) dream theater in conn.
by Cooz33@aol.com
26) side project
by Lisa Marie Palma <firegirl@FLASHCOM.NET>
27) I bought it!!
by "Virgil Starkwell" <flandersland@sinectis.com.ar>
28) Happy Story
by Michael Pontrelli <ponte@epix.net>
29) SFaM***possible spoiler***
by "Mike & Susan Verstraete" <homewks@sound.net>
30) Re [buying] SFaM
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:57:51 -0500
From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Other Stuff
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19991025185751.0159df8c@pi-r-squared.com>
>If you look at history, I would suspect that this kind of grassroots effort
>works sometimes with up and comers, but doesn't with a band like DT. Someone
>who wants to make me wrong (I'm sure there are a lot of you ;)), try and
>come up with bands who had their "breakthrough" hit, then a few lean albums
>(in terms of mainstream/commercial success), and then finally got big (at
>least relatively speaking, not necessarily platinum-selling big). I think it
>would be an interesting thing to look at.
>
Two words: Pink Floyd. Their debut in 1967 "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" was
pretty big (they had two top 20 singles). Then Barret went nuts, and the
band dropped off the mainstream markets (however they still sold a lot of
records, kinda like DT). Then in 73 they released Dark Side of the Moon and
became superstars. Darkside spent 741 weeks on the Billboard charts. How's
that for "making it big" It also helps that they're another prog band
Palpatine
Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian
of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"What an incredible smell you've discovered" -Han Solo, Star Wars: A New Hope
"He said I was crazy, and it's not true! Although I did try to burn his
house down once..." - Werner Herzog regarding Klaus Kinski
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:35:12 -0500
From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Other Stuff
Message-ID: <B43A2930.6EA%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
> From: "Jason Birzer" <longshot@pressroom.com>
> Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:10:33 -0700 (PDT)
> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
> Subject: Re: Other Stuff
>
>
>> come up with bands who had their "breakthrough" hit,
>> then a few lean albums
>> (in terms of mainstream/commercial success), and
>> then finally got big (at
>> least relatively speaking, not necessarily
>> platinum-selling big). I think it
>> would be an interesting thing to look at.
>
> Not to be funny, but what about Meat Loaf? He had one great album and it took
> him 15 years to follow it up.
Dude, good call. I'm a Meatloaf fan too, how could I forget that one.
-Brian
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:38:31 -0400
From: Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: how do you pronounce?
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991025163831.007c1500@pop.mw.mediaone.net>
I say "mee-YUNG", but so fast that it's basically one syllable.
At 07:44 PM 10/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>and while we're at it: Myung
>MY-yung? MEE-yung? my-YUNG? mee-YUNG? i've heard all four at some
>point...please forgive my ignorance of OFBP
> -Banjoman
>np: Bela(pronounced "Bayla", not "Bella")Fleck - Tales From the Acoustic
>Planet
>
>
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:41:52 -0400
From: Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Pronounciations
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991025164152.007c3a20@pop.mw.mediaone.net>
At 08:06 PM 10/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing Therion is theer-ee-on (theer rhymes with fear)
>
>I have no idea if I'm correct or not.... but I pronounce the first
>syllable to rhyme with "air".
>
>
>> ><< ..Vanden Plas? >>
>> >Van-den Plah?
>
>I could be wrong again, but I used to pronounce it like that (silent S),
>but then somebody I knew was pronouncing it with sorta a hard C sound at
>the end. If anybody is a auto enthusiast maybe they can clear this up?
>(the band is named after the Jaguar Vanden Plas).
>
>
>Here's a few more toughies....
>
>Meshuggah
As far as I can tell, the first syllable is "meh", and you pronounce the
rest kind of like "sugar" ;)
>
>Stratovarius (does the var syllable rhyme with "car" or "air")
>
It rhymes with air. Stratovarius is some kind of violin...I saw one on
Nash Bridges last Friday :P
>Tuonela (the Amorphis album)
>
Best guess..."too-oh-NELL-ah"
>
>
>- Joe D.
>
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:53:11 -0400
From: "Jason Birzer" <longshot@pressroom.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: 98 Rock
Message-ID: <199910251653.AA415040152@pressroom.com>
>I agree here: used to be better, but right now they're, like, the
>least of 3 evils (98Rock, DC101, and the abyssmal 99.1 WHFS).
Still thought it was the best back in the early 90s. Back when Stash was the morning DJ. I think it was more the music industry changing than the radio station. It still tries to be cool and succeeds more often than not.
>I don't remember much support in the Awake days, but in the I&W days,
>hells yeah. I heard Under a Glass Moon IN ITS ENTIRETY on 98Rock once
>(granted it was 4 in the morning). They used to have a show called
>"The Moshpit" and one night they kicked off the show with the live
>version of Metropolis - Part 1 from LatM - again, the whole unedited
>thing. The day of the phenomenal Pier Six Concert Pavilion in
>Baltimore's Inner Harbor, James and John P. were in the 98Rock studio
>and played, on the air, the acoustic version of Another Day (just like
>the one on acoustic dreams).
I thought the host of The Moshpit introduced them at the Hammerjacks
(RIP) show...
Jason
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:47:56 -0400
From: Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Prog music suggestions
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991025164756.007cb100@pop.mw.mediaone.net>
My $0.02:
Shadow Gallery
Fates Warning
Royal Hunt
Liquid Tension Experiment
Rush
Enchant
Symphony X
Spock's Beard
That's all I can really comment on for now...I'm a fairly new prog fan
myself ;)
At 01:12 AM 10/25/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Since I am relatively new in the whole prog (metal) music thing, I would
like to have a few suggestions from people who know. Which groups are the
best to begin with and what albums should I look for?
>Don't tell me DT! I am a fan since I&W.
>
>What's your opinion about:
>
>Psychotic Waltz
>Fates Warning
>Yes
>Gentle Giant
>Eldrich
>
>Do you know any Website where I can find information for the above groups
(discography, biography, lyrics a.s.o.) and other groups too?
>
>Private mail would be appreciated.
>Thank you in advance.
>
>Manolis Samarakis
>
>P.S. 1 day to go!!
>
>
>Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/
>___________________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:54:33 -0400
From: Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: SFaM In CDnow Top 10!!! *Album cover spoilers!!!*
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991025165433.007b6ca0@pop.mw.mediaone.net>
Who cares about Dixie Chicks and Indigo Girls? They're SMOKING Limp
Bizkit! =)
And the Backdoor Boys are their next victim ;)
At 08:09 AM 10/25/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>
>http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=152137459/pagename=/RP/TOP100/inde
x.html
>
>Yes ladies and gents...overnight SFaM beat out Dixie Chicks, and Indigo
>Girls (ulch) to take over #10 and now the cover is posted...can we make
>it go to #1?????
>
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:55:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: jammindude@webtv.net (Ben Straley)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5136
Message-ID: <14437-3814C3AF-23426@storefull-111.bryant.webtv.net>
Could I be removed from the mailing list please??
Thanks!
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:23:03 -0400
From: The Gatherer <gatherer@louisville.crosswinds.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: home/tool
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991024112303.00803c10@pop.louisville.crosswinds.net >
>Isnt portnoy a tool fan? ....im pretty sure ive read that somewhere.
Yes, I read on his site his fav song is Eulogy by tool.
Everyone should be a tool fan
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:29:43 -0400
From: The Gatherer <gatherer@louisville.crosswinds.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: free servers?
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991024112943.00804440@pop.louisville.crosswinds.net >
www.crosswinds.net
You get unlimited space and no banners but in the agreement you can't have
mp3s, put them in zips and I don't think they'll mind
At 04:28 PM 10/21/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>
>I need a free site where i can upload some mp3 bigger than 500k.
>Someone know if this is possible?
>
>Thanxx!
>
>C-ya
>
>_______________________________
>Check my DREAM THEATER site!
>http://www.underargentinaskies.com.ar
>
>"When I was kidnapped, my parents snapped into action.
> They rented out my room."
> (Woody Allen)
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:25:21 -0400
From: The Gatherer <gatherer@louisville.crosswinds.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Home
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991024112521.008041e0@pop.louisville.crosswinds.net >
At 07:09 PM 10/20/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Apparently I am one of the few who hasn't heard the new single. Can
someone please e-mail me privatly with a web address or somewhere I can
download it? South Florida radio sucks. I haven't heard a good song on
the radio in years here.
SAme here, I live in kentucky of all places. I have to live on mp3s, I
a;ways e mail the bands in apology though.
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:57:24 -0400
From: Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: CD NOW delivers!!!
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991025165724.007c4e00@pop.mw.mediaone.net>
I didn't yet >:(
Hopefully I'll get it by the end of the day...I want SFaM TOMORROW! :P
At 11:21 AM 10/25/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>I got my CD now order shipment confirmation. Has anyone else got their
>confirmation? They say they sent it out on the 23rd. Just thought I would
>let people know that they are shipping at least some of our CD now
>pre-orders!
>
>ytseJon
>
>Jonathan Willey, ATC
>WSU
>
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:00:07 -0400
From: Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Speaking of Best Buy
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19991025170007.007c5950@pop.mw.mediaone.net>
Last weekend I was in Best Buy looking for CDs (of course I couldn't find
much because their prog selection sucks :P), and I noticed that the divider
cards for DT said "Dream Theatre".
Next time I go in there I plan to give the nearest employee a VERY hard
time ;P
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:21:59 EDT
From: Portnoy420@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: THE UNVEILING!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <0.6c14b5c4.254623f7@aol.com>
Hi all,
As of Midnight tonight New York time, the veil is OFFICIALLY lifted.....
(not that everybody seemed to care anyway)
So POST AWAY after Midnight!!!
I'm looking foward to watching the flood gates open!
Hope you all enjoy the album!
Mike Portnoy
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:42:39 -0700
From: Wes Foll <follwes@sc.llu.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Fear Factory
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991025143730.0099a880@sc.llu.edu>
]From: Rob Grant <robgrant@mediaone.net>
>Subject: Re: Fear Factory
>
>
>]From the little bit of FF that I've heard, I think that their music is good
>(for non-prog) but their vocals just SUCK :P
>
>At 12:27 PM 10/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >Just wondering what you guys thought of Fear Factory. Kind of a silly post
> >but i'd like to see how many people don't only listen to prog.
Which probably means you should hear more, they're not totally about
screaming etc. There are lots of song, or lots of parts in songs too, that
Burton C Bell has great melody or whatever. But I can see how it would
ruin it for ya if you don't like rough vocals like that...since that is
their mainstay style. I for one totally dig it! I'm not just into prog
rock though... so that explains much. 8-)
------------------------------------------------------
I wonder how much deeper the oceans would be without sponges.
What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an
endangered plant?
Wesley Foll, Geology B.S., Loma Linda University
follwes@sc.llu.edu
wfoll00g@ns.llu.edu
beavis@ytseradio.com
ICQ #4550740
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:44:02 -0700
From: "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: One more friggin day!!!
Message-ID: <009b01bf1f32$0eba9d00$2aace1cc@falcon.wlv.esltd.com>
This Palpatine person wrote:
>>Yes ladies and gents...overnight SFaM beat out Dixie Chicks, and Indigo
>>Girls (ulch) to take over #10 and now the cover is posted...can we make
>>it go to #1?????
>Damn! And people say that DT fans can't do anything. We didn't even have a
>concentrated movement going on here! Cheers everybody. This rocks!
Way cool. But don't tell Brian, he'll only tell us it's just an anomoly,
and anything else is futile on our parts :-) Just kidding Brian, you've
made some good points, albeit repeatedly, but I think you're missing another
one that I think someone else (sorry, I'm horrible at remembering these
things) tried to make. Where did you first hear DT? IT DOESN'T MATTER
WHERE! (Sorry, just kidding, had a Rock flashback there) I heard them on
the radio back in 92 with Pull Me Under. And if it wasn't for that, I might
not have found them. And I'm sure there are many other fans that found them
on the radio. My point is that I don't think DT has reached every potential
fan yet. And if we can help (politely, mind you) get them some exposure,
and they find a few new fans, hell, even one new fan, that's way cool. And
nobody in the world can say when a new prog fan might be born, just like I
was back in 92... And I am not trying to convert the masses :-) There is
no right or wrong when it comes to tastes... I just say let people hear
them, and make up their own minds, like I did...
Profuse apologies to all for dragging this thread on... I expect I won't be
able to speak for the next few days, cuz I'm gonna be too busy
listening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Paul
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:44:09 -0600
From: "Chuck Reis" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Hukd En Fonecks Wurcz Phor Mee!
Message-ID: <001801bf1f32$2bb26280$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
>Stratovarius (does the var syllable rhyme with "car" or "air")
Actually, I think that's mostly dependant on which country you're in. I
believe the original pronunciation (and common amongst more latin based
languages) would use the soft a sound as in "car" and the same soft a sound
for the Stra syllable. (Strah toe var ee us) Whereas us daffy english
speaking types come up with our own ways of saying things all the time and
I've heard it here more as the long a as in "air" and the short a sound for
the Stra syllable as in the word "had." (Stra toe vair ee us)
However, I'm sure you could show it to someone here in the US and they'd
swear it was: "Stray tah var ai oos" or something. We're all fucked up. :)
I think though that one of the most confounding names I've never bothered to
pronounce is Meshell Ndegeocello (I think there's an apostrophe in there,
too). You know, the bass player? :)
Anyway, who wants to bet that tomorrow when 95% of the people start
cancelling their backorders of SFaM from CDNow, DT's rating falls off of the
Top 100 chart? They better not be backordering mine or I'm goona be pizzt!
-- KorgX3 iz hukd en fonecks. NP: Bon Jovi - Stick to Your Guns.mp3------------------------------
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:52:38 -0500 From: "Edward Polzin" <polzin@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: free servers? Message-ID: <00fd01bf1f33$47a74180$929d8ad1@boner>
crosswinds sucks. good luck uploading your files. tried that and wasnt able to upload more than 1 file without having some sort of connection problem. finally gave up. later.
> www.crosswinds.net > > You get unlimited space and no banners but in the agreement you can't have > mp3s, put them in zips and I don't think they'll mind > At 04:28 PM 10/21/1999 -0700, you wrote:
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:02:48 EDT From: Bunny1682@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Pronouncing Myung Message-ID: <0.2873c050.25462d88@aol.com>
I think it's pronounced just how it looks. Say young, and add an m sound to the front.
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:02:50 -0700 From: Wes Foll <follwes@sc.llu.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: SFAM, CDNOW, and BACKORDERS Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19991025150000.0099ca70@sc.llu.edu>
>I got my CD now order shipment confirmation. Has anyone else got their >confirmation? They say they sent it out on the 23rd. Just thought I would >let people know that they are shipping at least some of our CD now >pre-orders! > > >ytseJon > > >Jonathan Willey, ATC >WSU >
Well, I got an email confirmation that cdnow had sent the cd I ordered along with SFAM, but they apparently ran out of cds in their "A" Wharehouse, which means it got stuck on backorder for me. I proceeded to cancel that order and go ahead with going to Best Buy tomorrow. I'll get it before I would have with cdnow as it is and I'll be happier.
Anybody else get their SFAM order put on hold like I did? That'll teach CDNOW not to order enough cds!! 8-)
------------------------------------------------------ I wonder how much deeper the oceans would be without sponges. What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant? Wesley Foll, Geology B.S., Loma Linda University follwes@sc.llu.edu wfoll00g@ns.llu.edu beavis@ytseradio.com ICQ #4550740
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:14:50 -0400 From: Bracken MacLeod <anitya@erols.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Fear Factory Message-ID: <3814D65A.3CEF0BA0@erols.com>
I am a huge Fear Factory fan. I love this band. I have one gripe, however. On the last two regular releases - not remix albums - they released an expanded version of the album a couple of months after they released the regular version. The first time (w/Demanufacture) I simply gave the album to my brother and went to buy the re-release. However, they did it to us again with Obsolete. Now I love this band, but I'm getting frustrated at the idea that the fans who buy the album when it first comes out get screwed. I am no longer willing to... well, it's a lie that I'm not willing to buy the album again. I did it before, and I just bought a Japanese import of the Resurrection single which has three tracks from the re-release. I am not, however, going to buy the next album until six months after it comes out. Hopefully, I won't have to shell out twice what it's worth for the extras (which, in the case of Demanufacture, weren't even that good in the first place).
Namaste, Bracken
> ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:20:30 PDT > From: "Justin Sepulveda" > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Fear Factory > Message-ID: <19991024192030.45733.qmail@hotmail.com> > > Just wondering what you guys thought of Fear Factory. Kind of a silly post > but i'd like to see how many people don't only listen to prog. > > laters > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ >
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:20:15 -0400 From: Bracken MacLeod <anitya@erols.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Subconscious Message-ID: <3814D79F.30C0ACDF@erols.com>
Hello all, I know I've posted something like this before. However, it didn't work out the first time I tried it for reasons beyond my (or anyone else's) control. So here I go.
I am auctioning off my copy of Mike Bahr's Dream Theater Subconscious. For those of you who weren't around when this was first released this is a CD compilation of old demos and live tracks. It contains an original version of A Change of Seasons, clocking in at 19:19 and substantially different than the version on the ACOS EP. Also features "Carry That Weight" Beatles cover, "Tears" Rush cover, and Tori Amos' "Winter" cover. Number 125 hand numbered and initialed by Mike Bahr - released on Prism Records. It is in mint condition. Very limited edition! There were only 500 of the original pressing made!
If you're interested in this item follow this link http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/exchange-glance/Y01X4847981X5491214/002-6295452-4112204
Thanks for your patience. I'd really like for this to go to someone who'll enjoy it more than I do.
Namaste, Bracken MacLeod
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:50:52 -0700 From: "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: The Little Brother Test Message-ID: <000b01bf1f3b$6462eec0$046400c0@oemcomputer>
I really liked this test. It reminded me of a psych project I did in college, where I played various styles of music for people and got their responses. It's where one of my all time favorite quotes about music came from, where a HS student said "I only like songs I know."
This particular statement probably does more than anything else to explain why most people listen to the music they do. But that's a subject for another message.
What I'd be curious to see someone try is to perform the same experiment, but use someone in the same peer group to introduce the DT (or whatever band you want to try) to the listener. Often times, siblings tend to really disagree with each other, and will turn down anything the other one likes just because they're related. For example, when I was a kid buying Led Zeppelin and Yes albums, my brother was listening to The Carpenters and other top 40 stuff. I wonder if someone else in the same peer group, especially if it's someone the other kids think is "cool", introduces DT (or another band) to them, if the results would be different?
As far as James voice goes, I'm not surprised that it was sort of a turn off. Simply because not only do you not hear anyone with a higher pitched voice on the radio, you rarely hear anyone singing on the radio anymore. They're either rapping, yelling, or growling (sometimes combinations of all of them at the same time), often not quite in tune with everything else. Actual singing might confuse people.
Dave Thomas - Editor, Pixel Planet Reviews of books, music, comics, movies, games, CG software, programming tools and more! http://www.pixelplanet.com
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:04:50 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Stores open late??? Message-ID: <3814E212.7DEF33DA@home.com>
> I have some good news for those of you in the Twin Cities metropolitan > area. Cheapo Records on Snelling Ave. in St. Paul is keeping the doors > open until 12:30 AM. At 12:01 AM SFaM will be on sale!
Does ANYBODY know any Detroit-area stores that may be open late tonight?
Thanks,
- Joe D.
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:02:20 EDT From: Cooz33@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: dream theater in conn. Message-ID: <0.16b3bd86.25463b7c@aol.com>
ticketmaster.com reports that Dream Theater will be playing at Toad's Place on December 10th at 9:00 pm its a friday tickets have supposedly already gone onsale this is only info through ticketmaster not through Dream Theater or the website
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:39:19 -0700 From: Lisa Marie Palma <firegirl@FLASHCOM.NET> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: side project Message-ID: <3.0.32.19991025163618.02334b68@mail.flashcom.net>
Okay, for the time being, the project name is "Second Nature" and the album title is "SMPTe"... but apparently that is subject to change... or not.
How's that for a firm answer? ;o)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lisa Marie Palma firegirl@flashcom.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:46:22 -0300 From: "Virgil Starkwell" <flandersland@sinectis.com.ar> To: "Ytsejam List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: I bought it!! Message-ID: <000801bf1f45$e0052020$270f33c8@matute>
Hi Mike! & jammers.
Congratulations ,I just heard it. Exellent work. I only hope to hear the live version of "The dance of eternity"
A big challenge,right?
Bye!! _______________________________ Check my DREAM THEATER site! http://www.underargentinaskies.com.ar
"When I was kidnapped, my parents snapped into action. They rented out my room." (Woody Allen)
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:50:10 -0400 From: Michael Pontrelli <ponte@epix.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Happy Story Message-ID: <3814ECB2.A772E563@epix.net>
Just wanted to express my pleasure in that at a bonfire/party this weekend, I played some DT music, and caught the ears of two people there, who plan on grabbing the new album as soon as it comes out. And better yet, one of the people works at a music store and is planning on putting DT in regular rotation there ;) :) :) :)
-Ponte
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:15:12 -0500 From: "Mike & Susan Verstraete" <homewks@sound.net> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: SFaM***possible spoiler*** Message-ID: <001301bf1f47$2cc1ca20$d55299d1@default>
I wanted to post this before I got the CD tomorrow. I don't want anyone including any band members to question my thoughts because of the euphoric effects of the new music. I don't think I'm letting any secret out at this late date by my next comments. We as Dream Theater fans owe the band our thanks and support. Mike and the guys didn't just answer our demands for Met 2 by giving us a 10-12 minute follow up, they dedicated the whole damn CD to us! They could have sat down and kicked out a CD with a dozen new unrelated songs that might have gotten decent air play, but they didn't. They listened to us and they gave us one of the best earliest Christmas presents I will probably ever get... a 70+ minute Met 2. I know of no other band at DTs level that would say F*** the air play, let's make a kick ass CD that OUR fans want! So Mr. Portnoy, as I sit here waiting for tomorrow to arrive. Thanks for the present that sits under the Christmas tree tonight, I'll probably not be able to sleep at all.
Mike
Mike and Susan Verstraete www.sound.net/~homewks
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:44:48 -0700 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re [buying] SFaM Message-ID: <3814F980.175D9DF9@ucla.edu>
Well Al.. you can pick me up a copy. I spent my the last of my money (the usual amount I carry on me.. I still have my bank accounts and an Arizona ice tea bottle full of quarters) on a Star Wars Halloween costume. Damn. Maybe I can sit around and whine with the Indonesian jammers about not getting the album ;)
-- Amanda web in my eyes -- a Depeche Mode file archive http://depechemode.acmecity.com/kaleid/9/
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