YTSEJAM Digest 5071
Today's Topics:
1) new DT on FTP site
by JamesAhab@aol.com
2) Q2K - a positive review
by Awake77@aol.com
3) Question for veteran 'jammers...
by Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
4) Not the new album title
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
5) Re: Tour Dates
by "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5069
by "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com>
7) Re: Question for veteran 'jammers...
by "Toby Guidry" <stranger@cajunnet.com>
8) Back to School with Mail.com!
by "Mail.com News" <news@mail.com>
9) Great idea!
by Barbara B <babs@pop.geneseo.edu>
10) New DT on CDNow
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
11) Re: Q2K
by "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
12) Here's a new one for ya
by Oddvar Lovaas <flail@online.no>
13) Prog POWER tour
by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
14) Queensryche tour info
by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
15) Re: Here's a new one for ya
by Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
16) Re: Q2K
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
17) I'm disappointed
by "Nicole R. Stachowicz" <ytsekirby@yahoo.com>
18) Re: Question for veteran 'jammers...
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
19) Re: Queensryche tour info
by "Toby Guidry" <stranger@cajunnet.com>
20) Q2K.....wish I hadn't bought that one!
by "Chris Anderson" <Chris_Anderson@siecor.com>
21) Possible web spoiler...
by "Pat Sullivan" <psull@ici.net>
22) WTF? CDnow just did something interesting! (No Spoilers)
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
23) AAAAAAAAARRRGGHH!
by mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic)
24) Re: WTF? CDnow just did something interesting! (No Spoilers)
by "Toby Guidry" <stranger@cajunnet.com>
25) Innocence Faded Tab?
by "Sasha" <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
26) what ruins an album
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 01:35:09 EDT
From: JamesAhab@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: new DT on FTP site
Message-ID: <d62a7660.25132d0d@aol.com>
I know of two new DT MP3s on an FTP site (it's not my site). It's a huge prog
metal MP3 FTP, and there are two MP3s from the new album. The FTP is
ftp://teof:or1on@209.211.132.144/mp3/
This is not a spoiler. I can't be banned for this. If you wish to go to this
FTP and ruin the surprise for yourself, then by all means, go head. I can
understamd it. I'm not gonna do it myself, but I thought that a lot of people
might be interested in it. And maybe it will satisfy the people who keep
bitching about the "veil of secrecy."
Jim
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 03:20:17 EDT
From: Awake77@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Q2K - a positive review
Message-ID: <d251d54.251345b1@aol.com>
Well, Ive got the new Queensryche too. It is listenable, Im thinking their
next album after this one will be something worth talking about. You can
actually listen to Q2K in its entirity and not want to skip any tracks out of
lament for the band they used to be. I mean, after listening to Promised
Land (IMO their best work), this dosent even come close. Some of the tunes
(Right Side of My Mind, Liquid Sky) almost have that Queensryche sound that
most of us yearn for the return of.
I know they cant release another empire, or an 80's metal styled concept
album, but I thought they were headed into the right direction with Promised
Land...thought provoking lyrics and powerful instrumentation. But they threw
everything away and came out with HITNF, which sucked royally. I guess its
going to take some time for them to master whatever new sound they're trying
to come up with.
Well, just my thoughts....
-Chris
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 02:38:04 -0500
From: Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Question for veteran 'jammers...
Message-ID: <37E1EFDC.E5C@earthlink.net>
..and I mean VETERAN 'jammers. Anyone remember some guy that went by
the name of Mindcrimer, or something like that? He would always rip DT
to shreds while extolling the virtues of Queensr=FFche. Anyway, I'd love
to hear what he thinks of Q2K.
Never mind,
Mark Peters
epididymisle@earthlink.net
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 01:12:22 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Not the new album title
Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB4DCE@ms.kallback.com>
> Besides, i think we're gonna have to need to know the name of the disc on
> October 26th anyway....you KNOW it's gonna be backordered at CDNow, and
> you
> KNOW already that record store clerks have no idea what "Dream Theater"
> (it
> might help if you told them "Theatre" unfortunately), we'll probably need
> the album's name to find it in the record stores.....
Plus CDNow has pre-orders like 3-4 weeks before it is actually
released. So you should be able to find out the title in a couple weeks.
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:13:32 -0400
From: "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>, <jtracy@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Tour Dates
Message-ID: <000b01bf00f5$4f23d880$da21f7a5@com>
I'd guess that if the short Pre-New Year tour starts in December, the dates
will be primarily East Coast stuff, NJ, NY, PA, CT, Maybe MA and/or RI. It
depends on how long they want to be off before the holidays. I'd bet that
if they want 2 weeks before Christmas off, the dates will be similar to
that. When DT does short legs of a tour in the US, it's usually in the east
coast.
~~Art
Webmaster
http://www.joestump.com
"Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep
and at odds with our senses we'll climb
But if faith is the answer, we've already reached it
And if spirit's a sign
then it's only a matter of time"
-Kevin Moore, Dream Theater 1989
<<<On UACM they said that there would be a brief stint in the US before the
new
year and after the New Year the full scale tour would begin. Does anybody
know if they're returning to the US at any point during this? This is the
first time they've been on tour since I became a DT fan (just heard of them
in 1998) and I hope they don't do shows in New York, L. A., and Phoenix and
leave the rest of us Americans hanging until the next album comes out!!!
-John>>>
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:16:58 -0400
From: "Art Ellis" <artellis@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5069
Message-ID: <001101bf00f5$c6dca640$da21f7a5@com>
<<<
Please take me off the list.
Thanks
>>>
It's amazing. The list has been on the new server what, like 2 weeks? And
idiots are already forgetting how to unsub. You'd think they'd have a vague
recollection of how they subscribed in the first place, and that unsubbing
would be similar!
:-)
~~Art
Webmaster
http://www.joestump.com
"Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep
and at odds with our senses we'll climb
But if faith is the answer, we've already reached it
And if spirit's a sign
then it's only a matter of time"
-Kevin Moore, Dream Theater 1989
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:18:46 -0500
From: "Toby Guidry" <stranger@cajunnet.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Question for veteran 'jammers...
Message-ID: <002e01bf00f6$07cb9300$fe9666d1@cajunnet.com>
----- Original Message -----
]From: Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 2:47 AM
Subject: Question for veteran 'jammers...
>
> ..and I mean VETERAN 'jammers. Anyone remember some guy that went by
> the name of Mindcrimer, or something like that? He would always rip DT
> to shreds while extolling the virtues of Queensr=FFche. Anyway, I'd love
> to hear what he thinks of Q2K.
heh...I'm not exactly a VETERAN 'jammer, but I do know the very Mindcrimer
you're referring to. Check out Mike Wilton's site
(http://www.firesky.com/wilton). Rich (Mindcrimer) is the webmaster and he
might have stuck a review up there.
L8r,
Toby
http://www.cajunnet.com/~tobyg
"You can't be a Real Country unless you have a BEER and an airline - it
helps if you have some kind of a football team or some nuclear weapons, but
at the very least you need a BEER." - Frank Zappa
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Date: 17 Sep 1999 04:05:43 -0600
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Subject: Back to School with Mail.com!
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:55:50 -0400
From: Barbara B <babs@pop.geneseo.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Great idea!
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990917085550.006c346c@pop.geneseo.edu>
>
>I suggest that everyone who TRUELY wants to be surprised on Oct. 26th to
unsubscribe until that date, like I will be doing in about 3 minutes.
Hey, now that's a very funky idea. Besides "it's better to save the
mystery, than surrender to the secret....."
See everyone on October 26!
Babs
PS If you hadn't all guessed, I'm notorious for shaking and peeking at
Xmas & birthday presents.
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:15:54 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: New DT on CDNow
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AE9FA@messaging>
The new DT is now available for pre-ordering on CDNow (get it NOW before it
goes on backorder). For those spoil-weary ones among us, THERE IS NO
TRACKLISTING. The title is there, however, SO CONSIDER YOURSELF WARNED...
:)
David Dixon
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:27:30 -0400
From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Q2K
Message-ID: <000a01bf0110$643a2560$b084c5cf@crp.crp.org>
Toby wrote:
>P.S. I'm hoping that the sarcasm I detected was actually there, and I
>didn't really ruin your listening experience.
Of course it was sarcasm - while I respect DT's "veil of secrecy" I don't
understand how knowing the title or tracklisting would affect my judgement
of the record. After all, as someone else pointed out, we'll need to know
the title before we can go get it at the shops - plus, once we have it in
our hands we'll see the track listing before getting home/work and listening
to it.
Now, I won't want to hear about the concept (if any), or really care about
reading lyrics or hearing samples before listening to the full thing.
Ahh... I'm just repeating what has been said before, so I'll shut up.
joe
NP: PC69 - "Shame" (Hard rock as it should be)
"Winners never quit. Quiters never quit. But if you never win and never
quit, you're just an idiot."
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:30:34 +0200
From: Oddvar Lovaas <flail@online.no>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Here's a new one for ya
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990917163034.006f8f18@online.no>
>"Hey, so there's only three guys in the band right?"
>I finally meet another person who likes DT, and he'd never noticed
>they had a keyboardist ;)
And the second missing member is?
< flail - Oddvar Lovaas - http://home.sol.no/~flail - ICQ: 3253879 >
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:41:08 -0500
From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>, "Symphony-x" <teof@egroups.com>
Subject: Prog POWER tour
Message-ID: <000f01bf011a$adfd4f60$b82d88cf@jammer>
PROGPOWER 1999
11/14/99 - Tilburg, The Netherlands
Threshold, Pain Of Salvation, Sanvoisen, Superior, Lemur Voice, Symmetry,
Harrow, Paynes, Gray, Wolverine
Two of my personal faves... Superior, and Lemur Voice.
Dammit, I'm hitching a flight to the Netherlands! :P
JM
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:42:09 -0500
From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>, "Symphony-x" <teof@egroups.com>
Subject: Queensryche tour info
Message-ID: <001001bf011a$d1e6bb00$b82d88cf@jammer>
QUEENSRYCHE
10/29 - Las Vegas, NV
10/30 - Las Vegas, NV
11/01 - Seattle, WA
11/03 - Spokane, WA
11/04 - Portland, OR
11/06 - San Jose, CA
11/07 - Los Angeles, CA
11/09 - San Diego, CA
11/10 - Phoenix, AZ
11/12 )B– Salt Lake City, UT
11/13 - Denver, CO
11/14 - Albuquerque, NM
11/16 - El Paso, TX
11/18 - San Antonio, TX
11/19 - Dallas, TX
11/20 - Houston, TX
11/23 - Kansas City, MO
11/24 - St. Louis, MO
11/26 - Chicago, IL
11/27 - Milwaukee, WI
11/28 - Minneapolis, MN
11/30 - Detroit, MI
12/02 - New York, NY
12/03 - Boston, NY
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:48:49 -0300
From: Carlos Andres Alfaro <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Here's a new one for ya
Message-ID: <37E246C0.E3F83F1D@yunque.net>
Oddvar Lovaas wrote:
> >"Hey, so there's only three guys in the band right?"
> >I finally meet another person who likes DT, and he'd never noticed
> >they had a keyboardist ;)
>
> And the second missing member is?
I was thinking he either was thinking of Rush, or ya know how rumours
and misinformation spreads, and maybe this guy had heard of DT, and
someone instad of saying that they "sound" like rush, that theyre 3 guys
(like rush)
I hear all kinds of misinformation when it comes to DT ( from ppl who ve
heard of them but not actually heard them)
--
You learned well, through your hell
Your Pain was nothing, you longed for more
Your shameful heaven is full of devils
Just like me, Just for You
Carlos Alfaro , Internet Solutions Inc
mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:31:31 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Q2K
Message-ID: <002501bf00b4$c4e02380$0201010a@chuck.meserver.com>
>of the record. After all, as someone else pointed out, we'll need to know
>the title before we can go get it at the shops - plus, once we have it in
Not the people who actually support local commerce. I trust the guy at the
local CD shoppe with order in about 6 copies and save one specifically for
me. :)
I don't have to know one damn thing about the new album until I unwrap it
and pop it in the CD player. And I eagerly await the moment that my fancy
will be most thoroughly tickled.
So quit trying to justify your reasons to post info here. :)
--
KorgX3
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:19:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz" <ytsekirby@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: I'm disappointed
Message-ID: <19990917151930.27423.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com>
Hey all,
I wanted to let everyone know that as of right now, I'm unsubscribing
from this list until October 26. I'm tired of the bickering and the
general lack of brains of some of you.
On top of all that, I am THOROUGHLY disappointed in ALL of you who have
posted spoilers/tracklistings/title/other information about the new
album. What happened to the days of putting several lines of
***SPOILERS*** in an email to warn those of us who didn't want to know?
What happened to the common courtesy (and common sense) of respecting
other peoples' wishes about what they did and did NOT want to know
about the new album? Oh, I forgot. We're not overrun with people who
can't figure out ways to NOT post in MIME and where the average IQ is
3.
And to the people who bitched other people out about posting spoilers
and then went on to re-post the same spoilers: SHAME ON YOU! You
should know better too.
To those of you who are trying to do the right thing, I apologize for
this email. Most of you know this is out of character for me, and I
really feel bad that it has come down to this. I also wish to
apologize to Skadz and to wish him good luck over the coming weeks.
I wish everyone good health and happiness. I'll see you all on October
26. And if anyone has anything to say to me (or Korg, if you post
another funny), send it privately as I won't read another 'jam until
then.
Peace,
A very disappointed Nicole/Kirby
===
Nicole R. Stachowicz
Kirby on irc.dreamt.org:2112
ytsekirby@yahoo.com
http://www.christopherlloyd.net
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:11:50 -0700
From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Question for veteran 'jammers...
Message-ID: <37E25A36.642B49E1@ivorygate.com>
Mark Peters wrote:
>
> ..and I mean VETERAN 'jammers. Anyone remember some guy that went by
> the name of Mindcrimer, or something like that? He would always rip DT
> to shreds while extolling the virtues of Queensr=FFche. Anyway, I'd love
> to hear what he thinks of Q2K.
hehe... I remember that guy... I am sure he wrote his raving review of the
album before he even heard it... that guy was truly annoying from what I
remember... ;)
--
~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 >
"Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com
>>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<<
>>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<<
>>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:17:08 -0500
From: "Toby Guidry" <stranger@cajunnet.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Queensryche tour info
Message-ID: <014201bf011f$b531b190$13a3fbce@latelco.com>
There are a few dates added since that list...
Jan-Michael <jmsouter@airmail.net> wrote:
> QUEENSRYCHE
It actually starts 10/27 in Boise, ID
> 10/29 - Las Vegas, NV
> 10/30 - Las Vegas, NV
> 11/01 - Seattle, WA
> 11/03 - Spokane, WA
> 11/04 - Portland, OR
> 11/06 - San Jose, CA
> 11/07 - Los Angeles, CA
> 11/09 - San Diego, CA
> 11/10 - Phoenix, AZ
> 11/12 - Salt Lake City, UT
> 11/13 - Denver, CO
> 11/14 - Albuquerque, NM
> 11/16 - El Paso, TX
> 11/18 - San Antonio, TX
> 11/19 - Dallas, TX
> 11/20 - Houston, TX
> 11/23 - Kansas City, MO
> 11/24 - St. Louis, MO
> 11/26 - Chicago, IL
> 11/27 - Milwaukee, WI
> 11/28 - Minneapolis, MN
> 11/30 - Detroit, MI
> 12/02 - New York, NY
> 12/03 - Boston, NY
That should be Boston, MA actually.
TENTATIVE: 12/04 - New Haven, CT
TENTATIVE: 12/06 - Toronto, Canada
TENTATIVE: 12/07 - Akron, OH
2000
01/14 Stockholm
01/16 Hamburg
01/17 Berlin
01/18 Liepzig
01/20 Ludwigshafen
01/21 Stuttgart
01/22 Zurich
01/25 Nuremberg
01/26 Munich
01/27 Milan
01/29 Offenbach
01/30 Brussels / Koln
01/31 Bremen
02/02 Koln / Brussels
02/03 Rotterdam
02/04 Paris
02/06 London
L8r,
Toby
http://www.cajunnet.com/~tobyg
"We've been telling the press for years we have an intelligent audience.
That's only to make us look good." - Geoff Tate at MTV Unplugged taping,
April 27, 1992.
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:35:47 -0400
From: "Chris Anderson" <Chris_Anderson@siecor.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Q2K.....wish I hadn't bought that one!
Message-ID: <862567EF.00564749.00@internet-503.interliant.com>
Hello all!
I'm a new guy to ytsejam but not to Dream Theater and the progressive
metal scene. I have seen these posts about Q2k's poor quality.
My question is: Is this Queensryche the same Queensryche who wrote
master pieces like Operation Mindcrime, Best I Can, and I AM I????
Poor album in my own opinion. There is a decent touch of "feel" on songs
and some people (who like the typical 4-4 guitar-loud kind of music) might
like this album As for me, I think Queensryche should really consider
this album to be a let down for atleast the "so-so" Ryche fan like
myself.....flame me if you like.
I can't wait for Dream Theater's new one! I just watched "5 years in a
Livetime"
last night,,,,,,,this band is close to being my favorite. They're right up
there
with Rush and U2.
By the way, if you're a Dream Theater fan and you live in North Carolina,
let me know.
There are not many DTers down this way; many more in PA where I'm
originally from!
Chris Anderson
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:56:15 -0400
From: "Pat Sullivan" <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Possible web spoiler...
Message-ID: <199909171551.LAA05388@mercury.bidmc.harvard.edu>
A note for anyone who is trying to avoid finding our anything about
the new CD - DON'T GO TO CDNOW. I found out while surfing
there that the new album is out for preordering. There's not a whole
lot of information there, but even seeing what I saw pissed me off a
little.
Consider yourselves warned.
__Pat Sullivan______________________________
Email: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://home.ici.net/~psull/psull.html
AIM: TOWHTSTS ICQ: 23499229
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:56:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: WTF? CDnow just did something interesting! (No Spoilers)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909171155050.42567-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
This is something VERY interesting - I just went to pre-order the new DT
on CDnow, and it had listed the price as $12.49. When I re-entered my
credit card info and address info, it jacked the price up to $14.99!
What's the deal with this?
-------------------------------------------------
Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
http://cout.home.dhs.org/
Cloak on IRC
ICQ: 2513441
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Before you criticize somebody, walk a mile in his
shoes. That way, when you DO criticize him,
you'll be a mile away AND you'll have his shoes.
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:24:59 +0200
From: mams.gajic@t-online.de (Alex Gajic)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, todasco@yahoo.com
Subject: AAAAAAAAARRRGGHH!
Message-ID: <m11S0ol-000JvNC@fwd11.btx.dtag.de>
It's not true! Tell me it's not true!!!!
How can a single person be so fucking stupid???????
Not only that you don't no the fucking ytsejam-request address. You possess the
incredible genius to quote the whole 900 lines of jam because you clicked the
"reply" button.
Thank god, yahoo saved us. Thank you, Yahoo, we owe you one digest less.
Michael, CAN YOU READ?!?!?! Dammit!
-Haschkeks
* Oh come, let us adore him, abuse and then ignore him..." DREAM THEATER
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:24:50 -0500
From: "Toby Guidry" <stranger@cajunnet.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: WTF? CDnow just did something interesting! (No Spoilers)
Message-ID: <017801bf0129$2ae87eb0$13a3fbce@latelco.com>
Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> wrote:
> This is something VERY interesting - I just went to pre-order the new DT
> on CDnow, and it had listed the price as $12.49. When I re-entered my
> credit card info and address info, it jacked the price up to $14.99!
>
> What's the deal with this?
I noticed that as well, and hence didn't pre-order since it looked a little
fishy. Maybe it's related to the disappearing info at Elektra? Maybe
somebody out there is having a little fun being a tease. LOL
L8r,
Toby
http://www.cajunnet.com/~tobyg
"We've been telling the press for years we have an intelligent audience.
That's only to make us look good." - Geoff Tate at MTV Unplugged taping,
April 27, 1992.
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:29:45 +0200
From: "Sasha" <sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr>
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Innocence Faded Tab?
Message-ID: <000701bf0129$e0f06100$55e91dc3@sasa>
hey!
i was looking for a Innocence faded tablature (for guitar) and came across
the one on www.dreamtheater.net and frankly, i can`t understand a thing
there... it has been transcrubed by a certain Adam Bodnar and i can`t even
figure out the intro solo... he did a fine job alright tabbing out both the
guitars at the beggining but it looks very confusing (at least to me).
Anyhow, if anyone has that tablature scanned from the Tab book or maybe some
other "more understandable" version, i`d be very grateful if you`d mail that
to me... I have Metropolis scaned from the tab book, so if anyone needs
that, feel free to contact me...
"Lifting shadows off a dream
Once broken
She can turn a drop of water
Into an ocean..."
John Myung of Dream Theater
["Lifting Shadows Off A Dream"]
sasa.cabaravdic@pu.tel.hr
http://chronosphere.zambizzi.com
ICQ UIN - 6098813
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:42:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: what ruins an album
Message-ID: <19990917164249.20102.rocketmail@web109.yahoomail.com>
With all this talk about secrecy on the new recording,
thought I'd throw in my thoughts...
Knowing the title or song listing doesn't bother me.
That's something I'm going to know before HEARING the
album anyway. It's the first thing I'll see when I
pick up the disc. What bothers me (and is probably
what DT had in mind) is pre-reviews and related
arguments. If you read a lot of other peoples opinions
about the music before you hear it, it creates strong
prejudices in most people. I think this is what we're
trying to avoid here.
The best situation would be for everyone to give it at
least 10 listens before reading anyone else's comments
or giving any opinions of your own.
What really is unfair is when someone listens once and
then tells the world that the recording sucks.
Everyone remembers that. When they post their opinion
a week later and say "whoops, I was wrong, it's the
greatest recording ever made!", it's too late. People
only remember that first impression.
my $.02, BH
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