YTSEJAM Digest 5080
Today's Topics:
1) Listen up die-hard old era metal heads!
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
2) Re: MP3's
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
3) Tempest, Caliban
by "Jason Birzer" <longshot@pressroom.com>
4) I got WDADU for $2.49... on CD today!
by "Jeremy Kube" <kube@fullnet.net>
5) Re: Type O Negative album design
by "W. Tugmutton" <tugmutton@toast.net>
6) To Venus & Back - new Tori album
by Luke Bateup <lbateup@bond.edu.au>
7) re: Frequency response
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
8) RE: To Venus & Back - new Tori album
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
9) Re: To Venus & Back - new Tori album
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
10) Re: To Venus & Back - new Tori album
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
11) Comments on JAM 5079; still no DTC
by "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com>
12) Planet X legal battle?
by "Bill Blanchard" <wildbill2112@hotmail.com>
13) Re: To Venus & Back - new Tori album
by JamesAhab@aol.com
14) Bass Transcriptions
by Greg Kristianson <gkristia@ucalgary.ca>
15) OT: Philips CD-RW recorder
by JamesAhab@aol.com
16) OT: Philips CD-RW (got cut off)
by JamesAhab@aol.com
17) Re: Philips CD-RW recorder
by "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org>
18) New album arguments
by WoodyTJ34@aol.com
19) wired on mp3's
by Joseph Bissonnette <jabisson@cdr.wisc.edu>
20) loads o' stuff
by "Simon Long Krogh" <finn2@get2net.dk>
21) once upon someone else's time
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
22) M 3's (oop's, I dropped a bit)
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
23) TON
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
24) Petrucci clinic
by Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
25) Joint Stereo
by MaxArbot@aol.com
26) Compression
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:42:11 +0200
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Listen up die-hard old era metal heads!
Message-ID: <37EA8293.94A1EC4F@mol.com.mk>
I'm selling my recently bought CD:
Black Sabbath - Reunion (Double CD, live)
It's been played only 3 times so I consider it brand new!
I'm willing to sell it, but prefer some kind of trade if possible!
I'm ready to offer a REALLY good deal!
Mail me privately if interested.
-- CyberDuke ________________________________________________"What do you think about it?" "Shocking!" "Yeah, but do you think it was funny?" "Of course not! That would be REALLY shocking!"
The 2 balcony fossils, "The Muppet Show" ________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:26:15 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: MP3's Message-ID: <37EA54A7.4E6B4DB7@mol.com.mk>
> From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> > Subject: MP3's > > CyberDuke wrote: > >About the quality thang: I think, ... no, no, I KNOW that 128kbps > >MP3 has drastic worse sound quality than a CD, but do it at 256 > >kbps and you have ummmmm ... the original quality! :) > > Not a chance, even at 256k.
Now Al, that why the smiley face was there for! :) I didn't really mean it EXACTLY!
> Your statement: "Original quality" is highly dependent on the > playback gear. Your playback gear will be processing data that has > had some of the original information striped away in the interest > of minimizing bandwidth. This CAN'T maintain the "Original quality"
True, very true! But later I wrote about the range OUR EARS picks, and that actually this is what we care about. I don't care if a dog notice slight deviation from the REAL original quality in my 256 kbps MP3! :) I really don't! Same as I don't care SEEING the horn sound wave or HEARING the sound of the light, except that it would be incredibly cool and put me in mental hospital (frequency overdose) after 20 minutes! ;)
But anyway, I still don't claim anything too strong until I hear my 256 kbps MP3s on my stereo! It is said that you Al have good equipment, why don't you try it and tell us? -- CyberDuke ________________________________________________
"What do you think about it?" "Shocking!" "Yeah, but do you think it was funny?" "Of course not! That would be REALLY shocking!"
The 2 balcony fossils, "The Muppet Show" ________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:37:38 -0400 From: "Jason Birzer" <longshot@pressroom.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Tempest, Caliban Message-ID: <199909231737.AA20972158@pressroom.com>
>Having just received a magna carta cd (Tiles-Presents of Mind) I was >flipping though their little ad flier and was hoping there might be >some jammers who could give me reviews and/or recommendations of the >following groups: Tempest, Caliban, Attention Deficit, and the Floyd >Tribute, 'The Moon Revisited.'
I can speak for Tempest. They are an oddball on Magna Carta in that they are a Celtic rock band. Pretty good actually, but I wouldn't expect too much prog.
Caliban is a project of Leif Sorbye, the main man in Tempest. I haven't heard it, so I can't comment on it.
Jason
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:41:41 -0500 From: "Jeremy Kube" <kube@fullnet.net> To: "ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: I got WDADU for $2.49... on CD today! Message-ID: <000701bf060c$6d0ff600$2a1ee2d8@jeremyku>
Can you guys believe this shit. I was flipping through the CD section at a place called "Hastings" its a book and music and video store here in Oklahoma. I got to the Dream Theatre section (assholes spelled it wrong) and I saw WDADU for $2.49! I asked if the price was wrong and they said "No." I couldn't believe it. Even though I have a copy already.. I bought it. Can't beat $2.49!! Wow! So I'm happy.. I get a copy of the album cheap and DT still makes their full royalty on the album.. nobody loses out. Cool! Just thought that I would tell all of you... later, J Jeremy Kube Oklahoma State University Fire Protection and Safety Engineering Technology Major inflammabl@aol.com kube@fullnet.net "Sex is Death, Death is Sex. It says it right here on my crucifix!" Dream Theater.
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:47:46 -0500 From: "W. Tugmutton" <tugmutton@toast.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Type O Negative album design Message-ID: <000701bf060d$5018b040$cbdd1a93@tugmutton.swt.edu>
Ahoy,
Amanda Rosenblum wrote: >New music Tuesday kicked arse. I ended up getting new Nine Inch nails, >new Tori Amos, and new Type O. I spent a good deal of time looking at >the album art for NIN and Tori, sitting and occasionally uttering >"Pretty..." I was just wondering if anyone had the same problem with >the TON album that I did. Both me and a friend of mine who both bought >the cd together at Best Buy opened up the jewel case and had little bits >of plastic fall out. At first I thought it was some odd present from >the band, as I could not see anything broken. I noticed that the prongs >which hold the cd through the center were all broken; same deal with my >friend's cd. We assumed it was just a cheap jewel case. Anyone else >have this problem, out of curiosity? > >~~Amanda
Mine was just fine, actually... though for a split second after I had put the disc in my stereo I thought that something was wrong with my CD player, until I remembered the track title from their webpage. :)
- Wolfric Tugmutton tugmutton@toast.net
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:14:37 +1000 From: Luke Bateup <lbateup@bond.edu.au> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: To Venus & Back - new Tori album Message-ID: <37EAA64D.52F975DB@bond.edu.au>
Hello,
Anyone picked up the new Tori album 'To Venus & Back'? I didn't even know it was released until I just checked CDnow.
Any reviews, opinions, comments? I know the second disc in the set is like a 'best of' compilation, but the first disc in new material right?
Luke.
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:25:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: re: Frequency response Message-ID: <19990923222512.13600.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com>
"Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@digitalrodent.com> wrote:
> From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> >> and extending the frequency >> response (beyond 20hz-20khz).
> Extending the frequency response like this would benefit those > 11 and under, who have not been to any concerts or sporting events. > The vast majority of us can't even hear up to 20,000hz. As you > get older, the high frequencies go. I would think that to increase > sound quality, you want to increase bitrate, and sampling speed. > Once the frequency response matches that of the human ear, > I would think that any expansion on the rangewould mainly be for the > listening enjoyment of Rover the household golden retriever. But what do I know?
Yeah, I don't know how useful extending the frequency response would be. The article I read indicated that the loss of frequencies outside that range are what causes digital music to sound "unnatural". I'm sure we're all familiar with digital audio (like answering machines and cell phones) where the frequency response has been limited to a narrow range around the human voice frequency (to save storage and bandwidth). They really suck. But value beyond 20hz-20khz is questionable.
As far as loosing your hearing, the ironic thing is that loud music and guitar tend to be close to the same frequency as the human voice. The first hearing problem most of us will (or already do) notice is the inability to distinguich human voices in a noisy environment. We actually "carve out" a deaf spot right in the middle of our hearing range (voice), and any noise in other frequencies gets picked up "easier", drowning out people talking. Kinda sucks.
I've actually had my hearing graphed, I have an inverted bell curve right there in the middle (thanks to my guitar, most likely).
Wear earplugs and don't turn it up too loud kids...
my $.02, BH
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:20:06 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: To Venus & Back - new Tori album Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AEA24@messaging>
> Anyone picked up the new Tori album 'To Venus & Back'? I didn't even > know it was released until I just checked CDnow. > Any reviews, opinions, comments? I know the second disc in the set is > like a 'best of' compilation, but the first disc in new material right?
Well, actually, the second disc is a live disc from the Plugged '98 tour (with her band). I haven't even listened to this second disc yet because the new material on the first disc KICKS SO MUCH ASS. I think the new material is her best since "Little Earthquakes", and may even top it after a couple more listens. It is very atmospheric (almost reminded me of The Gathering's latest disc at times), and perfectly suited the mood I was in on Tuesday.
I saw Tori at America West Arena in Phoenix last night - amazing show. The mix was incredible - probably the best mix I've ever heard, especially for such a large venue. I was very impressed by her drummer, Matt Chamberlain, and her bassist, Jon Evans. Between the two of them, they had quite an amazing groove. Anyway, she played most of the songs I don't really care for, plus a couple that I do, but my girlfriend (DIE-HARD Tori fan) loved every second of it. Tori played with Alanis Morissette, but, IMHO, Alanis' new stuff blows, so we left after Tori... :)
David Dixon Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com ytsedave@asu.edu
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:32:00 -0700 From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: To Venus & Back - new Tori album Message-ID: <37EAD490.15BA2427@wezl.org>
First disc is all new studio tracks, second disc is live stuff from her Plugged 98 tour...I'm not a Tori dan by any means, but it's a very listenable CD
Luke Bateup wrote:
> Hello, > > Anyone picked up the new Tori album 'To Venus & Back'? I didn't even > know it was released until I just checked CDnow. > > Any reviews, opinions, comments? I know the second disc in the set is > like a 'best of' compilation, but the first disc in new material right? > > Luke.
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:33:11 -0700 From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: To Venus & Back - new Tori album Message-ID: <37EAD4D7.4E3AE476@wezl.org>
correction...the last post should've said "I'm not a Tori fan" not Dan Just can't get the guy off my mind these days
It's a joke, I'm not gay...not today anyways
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:35:51 -0700 From: "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Comments on JAM 5079; still no DTC Message-ID: <001901bf0613$ffee0f00$2aace1cc@falcon.wlv.esltd.com>
Joseph Bissonnette asked about a few cd's that I know nothing about, except for the Moon Revisited. I have this CD, and don't really like it. Bear in mind that I have all the other "tribute" cd's Magna Carta has put out, and really dig them, especially the Rush and ELP ones. And I am a big Pink Floyd fan, but this CD is just kind of "flat" and lifeless to me. I think maybe I'm just so used to hearing the original that the tribute sounds wrong to me... Maybe... But I'm also a huge Rush fan, and I totally dig the Working Man cd... It an energy and freshness to it that the Moon Revisited doesn't. I don't know. This probably doesn't help you at all!!! :-) But if you're chalking up yays or nays, I say thee nay!
Happy B-day Ash, and belated Happies as well to Charlie... And as far as us old farts go, I'm 34... So is Charlie Farrell the king old guy?
Amanda, I've bought over 400 cd's (I wonder if any of them are REAL :-)), and never had the problem you mentioned until 2 weeks ago, when I bought the Bad Company Anthology (see, that proves I'm old!). Opened it up, and lots of plastic spindley bits...
Paul - must be bored today... This is my second message to the jam... :-)
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:36:16 PDT From: "Bill Blanchard" <wildbill2112@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Planet X legal battle? Message-ID: <19990924003616.35374.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hi guys, Was surfing through mp3.com in the prog metal section (where else?) and I discovered a band by the name of Planet X. It wasn't Derek's band so I thought I'd write them a letter to inform them that the name had already been taken. This is the response I got, thought you'd all be interested.
"Wild" Bill
>From: Frank V Walton<vyan1@ix.netcom.com> >To: WildBill2112@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: MP3.com viewer email >Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:27:15 -0700 > >Thanks for you concern Bill - > >We've been in contact with Derek already and informed him of the conflict. >The available evidence indicates to us and our attorney that we have used >the name first - we are awaiting any evidence from Derek indicating his >prior use. Much of this subject is covered on our website in our news >section here --> > >http://planetxrocks.com/pxjournl.htm#May0599 > >Currently, we are the only musical group that has applied for registry of >the name "Planet X" with the U.S. >Patent and Trademark office. > >Vyan > > > >
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:54:42 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: To Venus & Back - new Tori album Message-ID: <9fa7dc42.251c25d2@aol.com>
I like the new album. It reminds me a lot of Choirgirl. Usually, it would be bad for an album to sound a lot like the previous one, but I really like FTCH, so I like TVAB so far too.
Jim
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:15:17 -0600 (MDT) From: Greg Kristianson <gkristia@ucalgary.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Bass Transcriptions Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.10.9909231912020.56488-100000@acs6.acs.ucalgary.ca>
If anyone sent a reply regarding my transcriptions for boots trade offer, could they please mail me again? My server crashed and I subsequently lost a lot of mail. Those of you that didn't reply but are still interested can mail me privately.
Muchas Gracias,
Greg
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:48:13 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: OT: Philips CD-RW recorder Message-ID: <2d2eb63a.251c4e7d@aol.com>
Sorry for the off-topic post, but since some of you have CD recorders, i was wondering if I could get some help. I recently bought a Philips CD-RW 400 series, and after 3 torturous days of opening my computer over and over again, i finally got it installed. now that its working and i have installed the software, i dont know how to record. i managed to record 2 audio tracks from 2 separate CDs, but i dont know how. everything ive tried since then doesnt work. i recorded like 6 tracks from 3 separate sources, and it said it was recording and everything was good. then it said recording was done, so i took it out and put it in the d drive, opened the computer's cd player and the display said "no data" or something like that.
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:49:29 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: OT: Philips CD-RW (got cut off) Message-ID: <ce697cb9.251c4ec9@aol.com>
Accidentally sent the first one...
But that was basically it. I'm getting frustrated cuz the directions dont tell me anything, and nothing I do works. so if someone could please eamil me privately and help me out, id be very appreciative.
jim
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:03:34 -0400 From: "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Philips CD-RW recorder Message-ID: <00b701bf0641$c5c49960$b2589780@resnet.rochester.edu>
> Sorry for the off-topic post, but since some of you have CD recorders, i was > wondering if I could get some help. I recently bought a Philips CD-RW 400 > series, and after 3 torturous days of opening my computer over and over > again, i finally got it installed. now that its working and i have installed > the software, i dont know how to record. i managed to record 2 audio tracks > from 2 separate CDs, but i dont know how. everything ive tried since then > doesnt work. i recorded like 6 tracks from 3 separate sources, and it said it > was recording and everything was good. then it said recording was done, so i > took it out and put it in the d drive, opened the computer's cd player and > the display said "no data" or something like that.
Did you make sure that you said "close disc" on the record properties? That's what it sounds like to me. If you don't close the disc, it won't write the Table Of Contents to tell the CD player where to look for the info to play it. I don't know what program you're using, but in Easy Cd Creator, it's just a tab on the record options thingy menu :) Hope that helps!
Scott.
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:23:02 EDT From: WoodyTJ34@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: New album arguments Message-ID: <19af6797.251c56a6@aol.com>
Hey, I wonder if the gag order was put into effect so not only wouldn't we talk about the new album for a month, but we could bitch & moan about this for the next month thus giving us a new subject to keep us occupied?!?!?! I don't care either way but I would really hate to hear about something special on the album from someone leaking info. I can't wait for the new album. I had no idea FII was released until I overheard someone talking about a new album from DT. This album should be incredible and the waiting should only make the prize that much sweeter.
See ya, Todd
"I sit down with my son, set to see the Crimson Sunset"
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:28:54 -0500 From: Joseph Bissonnette <jabisson@cdr.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: wired on mp3's Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990923232853.008d8a30@cdr.wisc.edu>
>From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
>convert it into something meaningful. The oceans will >be forced to pound out a bunch of 1's and 0's, and I >will never again have to hear the surf in that ugly, >outdated, analog mode... >
I can only hear in bitstream. I keep an A/D converter attached to my ear.
=P
>From: "Paul Evans" <paul.evans@esltd.com>
>Absolutely no disrespect intended to Joseph or Chris, but I'll put my ears >to that test anytime. > >But what this really reminded me is that I wanted to share was that I >recently changed all the cables in my guitar rack from crappy Hosa to top of >the line Monster cables (not a cheap investment, by any means!!), and man, >that is one of the best investments I've made in a long time. The sound is >incredibly brighter and clearer. Maybe it takes a "refined" ear to hear it, >but I can definitely tell the difference. Worth every penny. Al would be >proud:-) >
Interesting point, and thanks for not calling me a retard =). As a guitarist I've tried different cables and found that there is a very noticeable difference. As a home theater aficionado I've tried different cables and found little to no difference (at least once you get beyond the cheap ass throw-in cables). And in the home theater area I've read some quite detailed tests of wire quality stating that it really doesn't make a difference, including the infamous coat-hanger-wire test (which is what led to my sarcastic wire thickness comment). Al, care to shed any light on the great mystery of speaker cables?
>From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> > >Huh!?!? I don't see how is this possible! I'm almost sure that P3 >compression DOES takes out some of the information! Actually is that >misteriiys algorithm avalibale somewhere? :) Let's check by ourselves >what exactly it does. >
Yes, it does take out some information. I believe it clips some frequencies too high and low to be heard by your average human ear. It also cuts out some other information. At risk of completely mangling what the algorithm does I'll try to explain to the best of my understanding. At any given frequency there can be any number of sounds going on, but the human ear only grabs the loudest and most noticeable one. While a wav file records all of those sounds, including the ones that a person wouldn't hear, an mp3 throws out the excess. In fact there may be some interaction between the different sounds that is lost on an mp3, but I think that's a matter of some dispute. In any case this vaguely remembered from a FAQ I read some time ago, so don't treat it as gospel, but hopefully that'll give you some idea of how mp3's work.
Biz
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:02:41 +0200 From: "Simon Long Krogh" <finn2@get2net.dk> To: "The Ytsejam Mailinglist" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: loads o' stuff Message-ID: <LOBBJMCAFBFJBCBENPFDIECOCAAA.finn2@get2net.dk>
Hi First of all: To all you audiophiles, who say that mp3 sounds like crap, I can only say: Too bad for you! When I listen to mp3's via my SoundBlaster Live! through my stereo, I can't tell the difference between mp3 and CD.
Second: Wes Foll <follwes@sc.llu.edu> wrote:
>> -Type O Negative: Day Tripper >What band originally did that song? I wasn't aware it was a cover.
Jesus! where were you 30 years ago??? (I, myself, was waiting to be born 12 years later :)) Day Tripper was originally by The Beatles. Actually, I'm not all that ecstatic about the new TON...to me it seems, that they haven't really evolved since Bloody kisses (not much anyway). But I must agree that Day Tripper is a cool cover!
third: bye
NP: Spock's Beard - The Light
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:41:39 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: once upon someone else's time Message-ID: <19990924054140.1748.qmail@hotmail.com>
> >Let's play *catch the movie reference*, shall we? Name the loose > > >tie-in: "People who sell bootlegs ought to shampoo my crotch." :) >as good as it gets, great film btw!
"Old Friends", you mean? I got me a promo pic for "As Good As It Gets" where the film is identified as "Old Friends." Must have been a preliminary title, same as the title "The Party" for what turned out to be "Can't Hardly Wait," and plenty more examples....
Amanda: About that TON plastic breakage....what label are they on? Not that it matters, I don't think. I've had that happen to me on a number of albums (a Vanden Plas disc from Japan, a Porcupine Tree disc, a Bruce Dickinson disc from BMG)....thought I was cursed or something
as for ripping folks off at ebay, a 2 disc LTE boot is going for $32 with 7 bids as of ten minutes ago....don't know if it's the same one, but with days to go, I figure that will get over $40+
partha
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:31:57 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: M 3's (oop's, I dropped a bit) Message-ID: <37EB1ADD.E8482959@isd.net>
Chris Pt.. Pta.. Ptac.. Ptacek wrote: >And I long to own a cassette tape deck that sounds as clear as a >128kbps MP3.
No prob. Get a Revox B710 mkII. With the appropriate tape correctly biased, and the record level just below the tape's saturation threshold, you would easily have a signal-to-noise ratio better than an MP3. The frequency response would be fairly flat from 20 Hz to 16 KHz without all of the little sonic holes MP3's introduce.
Tandberg also had one cassette deck in the same class as the Revox. I forget the model. Another great little recorder is the Tascam 122 MK III. The Tascam is not quite as refined as the offerings from Revox or Tandberg, but at $1,350.00 (a grand less than the others) it's unparalleled in it's price range. The big drawback of the Tascam is the lack of on-board calibration tones for tape biasing. This is a deck you have to play hit-and-miss games until you find the right tape and bias combination. Revox, and tandberg have taken the guess work out by supplying the on-board electronics necessary to properly calibrate the machine to the selected media.
Care to put your best digital formats against my O L D analog Revox A77 mk IV (30 ips) reel-to-reel recorder? You'll loose. It's really a shame that machine only has power applied to it once a month or so.. CD's are just too damn convenient.
PS. Chris, you never replied to my e-mail regarding monitors. This was during your move so I didn't expect an immediate reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Evans wrote: >I recently changed all the cables in my guitar rack from crappy Hosa to top of >the line Monster cables (not a cheap investment, by any means!!), and man, >that is one of the best investments I've made in a long time. The sound is >incredibly brighter and clearer. Maybe it takes a "refined" ear to hear it, >but I can definitely tell the difference. Worth every penny. Al would be >proud:-)
Proud I am, Grasshopper. For home audio gear, give the DH Labs BL-1 series II cables a try. The are about $100.00 for a 1 meter pair, and worth every cent! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Andy Putman wrote: >It has nothing to do with CPU speed. It is simply not (mathematically) >possible to get the kind of compression you get on mp3's with non-lossy >compression. That's a fact that unfortunally nothing, even bad-ass >processors, can fix. That is the reason why there are many files that pkzip >cannot compress at all.
You are right. Now if we could just convince the rest of them.
"You can't have something for nothing" --Rush
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When you live in the land of 10,000 lakes, it's nice to know that all men are created equal in cold water.
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:08:12 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: TON Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649016AEA2A@messaging>
> Actually, I'm not all that ecstatic about the new TON...to me it seems, > that > they haven't really evolved since Bloody kisses (not much anyway). But > I > must agree that Day Tripper is a cool cover!
Oh, c'mon - "Bloddy Kisses" and "October Rust" sounded NOTHING alike. Type O, IMHO, perfectly melded the two styles on this new disc. There are more organ sounds, double bass, gang-screams, and death-themed lyrics (BK), combined with more major keys, cool fuzzy bass tone, and better songwriting (OR). I think this latest incarnation is the one TON really wants to portray as its image to the public - they have reached what they have always been trying to achieve. Not too commercial, yet not too esoteric. Just my <insert calculated exchange rate equivalent to 2 cents> <insert new unit of currency>s.
David
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:12:52 +0200 From: Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Petrucci clinic Message-ID: <37EA7BB4.8A3BE587@siol.net>
YEAH!!!!
Petrucci is coming to Slovenia on Oct 22nd. I guess every dog gets its day! :)
Now if we could only get a show in the second leg of tour. Does anyone know which agency organises DT tourdates in Europe? Gotta find out how much money are they asking for the show and other conditions.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind traveling all around europe to catch their shows, but it would be a real treat to get them in Slovenia!
Matej, a happy camper! P.S. Damn this is good time we live in! :)
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 04:50:14 EDT From: MaxArbot@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Joint Stereo Message-ID: <1db4e4ca.251c9546@aol.com>
I was just wondering if it's just my imagination, or do MP3's recorded in Joint Stereo have an odd "sizzling" sound to them. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
[eriC]
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:50:02 +0100 From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Compression Message-ID: <49467c8ca3graham@picsel.com>
> From: "Jeff Storck" <jtstor@hotmail.com> > Anyhow, I'm wondering why they chose to use this "lossy" compression? > The quality would be better then, if they used the "non-lossy" > compression. Though I think I've answered my own question. It's > probably a lot easier and less CPU-intensive
On the contrary, lossy compression is usually much more complex. It's used simply because you can compress your data to a much smaller size, if you don't mind it being slightly different when you decompress it again.
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