YTSEJAM Digest 5449
Today's Topics:
1) Re: ethics of selling bootlegs part III
by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5445
by Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
3) Calendar usage skills 101
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
4) Re: Calendar usage skills 101
by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
5) Crimson
by TEDESCO MATTHEW A <Matthew.Tedesco@Colorado.EDU>
6) A little more fun with setlist Scottie
by "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@digitalrodent.com>
7) Jordan/John show -- DC Ytsejammers?
by "Ryan Park" <rpark@space-dye.com>
8) Re: I'll let Ryan be the final word
by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
9) CD-Burner
by Daniel Wannemacher <dany@cs.uni-sb.de>
10) could someone pick me up couple VCDs from Asia?
by O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
11) ndtc: New Nightwish
by "Tanja Sorsa" <Tanja.Sorsa@fng.fi>
12) Guitar Effects (TC, Lex, Even, etc.) ...minor DTC
by Vince LuPone <vgl@syspac.com>
13) die laughing (ndtc)
by "Tanja Sorsa" <Tanja.Sorsa@fng.fi>
14) New Releases
by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
15) Re: die laughing (ndtc)
by Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5448
by Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5448
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
18) Re: ndtc: New Nightwish
by "Graham B" <graham@renegade2K.com>
19) Queen Amidala
by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
20) Re: Trevor Rabin
by "Webmaster Ytsejam.com" <webmaster@ytsejam.com>
21) absinthe, nightwish, etc
by Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:34:34 -0700
From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: ethics of selling bootlegs part III
Message-ID: <B52E54DA.B0%schansen@cts.com>
and finally part III
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Adam Pye wrote:
> This argument (and we have gone over this guy's situation in the past on the
> list) is totally mute. You say he released and sold these boots for
> "enjoyment ... not to make money," but you also say he wanted to "cover his
> costs and upgrade his equipment." Kind of contradictory. The real kicker
> is that if he had actually been doing this for the "enjoyment ... not to
> make money," why would he stop producing them when he found out he was
> losing money from people who traded his "release?"
Perhaps my point in using Chris's example is not clear, so, how about I just
let him tell you where he's coming from and let you make the decision
yourself. I've spoken with him on the past on this subject and with this
turning into the discussion it has, I forwarded him some of it. You be the
judge.
I might just say tho, before you get pissed off at his opinions (as I'm sure
some of you might be offended - which is NOT why I'm quoting this) look at
his reason for "controlling" the trade as he puts it and *why* he stopped
bothering to do the Moose/Caribou label - it had nothing to do with making
money (I've marked said area with 3 colons). Here's what he said (I've
editted out stuff that's irrelevant to this discussion):
:My problems with the scenario are numerous. For one thing,
:I have no control over the quality of copies of my original
:releases, but if someone gets a bad one, guess who's going
:to get blamed for it... I mean, I was not perfect; I did
:make a couple of mistakes (the "aliasing" noise on the first
:pressing of "Seattle Supersonic", and the mastering fault on
:the first disc of "Capitol Punishment"). I subsequently
:corrected both -- I never really got around to doing the
:warranty work for the Seattle show, but everyone who bought
:the DC show got a new set of discs free of charge, and I
:lost my shirt on that. I asked for the original discs
:back, in order to keep them from getting circulated, but
:only a couple of guys sent the originals back. Again, I
:have no control over that -- but at least I told Dave
:Weller abouyt the problem, and he has it posted on his
:web site, so at least the knowledge of the defective one
:is out there. I would gladly replace for free any of the
:original "Seattle Supersonic" sets, but I doubt that any
:of those guys are ever going to get back in touch with me
:now.
:
:And it never fails that the guys who make the most noise
:about the free circulation of recordings are the biggest
:parasites in the bunch -- you think that **** has
:ever taped a show in his life? Or ****? Or ******?
:No, the vast bunch of these guys see "the
:free circulation of recordings" as an excuse to stick
:their hands into whichever collection they want, and they
:never have anything to give back and return. You know,
:"I want it! But I have nothing to give back to you in
:trade for it. But you're an asshole if you don't make
:me a free copy!" And then they whine like a bunch of
:::crybabies if it isn't a DAT soundboard. And then they
:::whine like a bunch of crybabies even more when the end
:::result of all of this is that recordings get hoarded,
:::and the real dedicated collectors and historians never
:::get to hear a particular "Hemispheres" soundboard or a
:::full tape from the CoS tour. Lists of shows on web
:::sites have only exacerbated this problem. And what we
:::have now is exactly what you'd expect -- the same shows
:::circulated over and over and over and over again, ad
:::nauseum, and nothing new or previously hidden ever
:::surfaces.
:
:::Look at what happened when that Rockford 11/15/75 tape
:::leaked out.
<snip>
:::Imagine what could have been pried out of collector's
:::hands had that recording been properly controlled and
:::handled. But NOOO, a few inexperienced dorks get their
:::hands on it, and post to a.m.r. that they'll give away
:::free copies to everyone, and fuck all of those assholes
:::who sell CDs... and in a matter of weeks, the show is
:::as worthless trade-wise as St. Louis '80. And the
:::guys who are sitting on significant recordings just
:::sit back and laugh, because they get their copy of
:::Rockford eventually, and never have to give anything
:::up for it. That one was the last straw for me. I
:::simply am not trading or circulating anything any
:::longer, because I have nothing to gain from it... no
:::one has anything to offer in return, and if I try to
:::cover my time and trouble by asking for a token fee
:::for the discs, I'm an "asshole bootleg seller". So
:fuck them all -- they can all listen to their "Fly
:By Cleveland" CDs for the rest of their lives. When
:I-Vent runs out of garbage quality tapes to transfer,
:unimproved, to CD-R, he'll drop out also, and there
:will be no one left after that, apart from the rare
:Gypsy Eye CD that gets put out (usually of a show
:that everyone has already had for years anyway).
<snip>
:All that I was trying to do with Moose/Caribou was
:two things: (1) get some of the significant older
:shows archived to CD while they were still fresh,
:since at the time the "silver" producers were largely
:ignoring them in favour of '80s and '90s stuff; and
:(2) make it affordable for guys who were either just
:starting out in collecting or didn't have the time
:and/or interest in trading to hear certain shows.
Like I said, don't get pissed at me for writing this, as it's a quote. My
only intention for having it hear was to share his viewpoint as well as to
show another view of why the "free all boots" mentality might not always be
for the best of everyone. BTW, when he mentions he "has nothing to gain"
from trading anymore he's speaking about finding new and lesser gens of
shows; not only that, but in a message he sent me some time ago, he had also
said he stopped trading because of all this bickering taking away his
enjoyment of trading (this had absolutely *nothing* to do with money). As it
is, if you wanna continue to discuss what he said, fine, but I probably
won't be adding much (if anything).
> And I'm sure you didn't pay BootScalpers (tm) like Kiss the Stone for "Lords
> of Sound" or "Lost in the Sky," so why should we be forced to buy from
> Scarred?
Actually, I paid for numerous bootlegs - in fact, lemme count them for
ya....26 DT boots (including KTS stuff and 3 that were on cassette), 26 Rush
boots and 8 QR boots. Wanna list? I'll send it to ya if you think I'm full
of it (or would photos be better to prove I have them?) So do I have right
to say something about this topic? Yes I do! And do I sell copies of these
CDs to anyone? No! Do I offer them for trading? Yes (unless they are from
Scarred Records and in-print). So am I a hypocrit? No.
> It looks like the vast majority of people on the list agree
> with me here, and it's good to see that.
Actually, you might be surprised to see how many people emailed me privately
in agreement with my stance. It's just that they didn't want to prolong this
argument nor catch all the hell I am for speaking up publicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
finally, good 'ole D-Man added:
> Best of luck
> to Ryan (even though he's a Cowboys fan :) and Scotch (one hell of an
> artist), and best of luck to those of us who don't want to spend more
> than the price of blanks.
Just to set the record straight on this: I'm not Scotch the guy who did all
the Prism covers, tho I wouldn't mind claiming to have done them! :)
However, I hope the effort I have put into the artwork on this thing will
make Scotch proud. Those of you who buy it can be the judge.... :)
Ok, that was longer than I wanted, but I wanted to cover everything. If you
got this far, thanks for reading. If not, hope you got a good night's sleep!
:)
Setlist "Boba Fett?" Scotty
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:33:45 -0400
From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5445
Message-ID: <20000427.233357.-851561.1.Axeman_dannl@juno.com>
> Is it normal that I have a strong desire to see the
Poison/Dokken/Cinderell=
> a/Slaughter show in Hartford this summer?
I'm goin' to see 'em in Saratoga!
Re: e-mail security
>The government can't listen to your phone line without a warrant,
who are you kidding? I can't remember the name of the join intelligence
project among the major English speaking nations of the world, but they
were spying on EVERYBODY. France just got bitchy about it a couple months
ago and took it to some world court.
>Kansas will be the supporting act for the [Yes] tour. That lineup will
include
>Steve Walsh, Robby Steinhardt, Rich Williams, Phil Ehart and Billy
Greer.
Goin' to see them at SPAC, too!
> No, I think most of us can keep our composure when someone says a
> name that happens to be someone in OFB. I mean, did you go
> equally as nute when you see who composed/sang the theme from
> "Cheers"?
I never paid any attention, who did it?
> Biggest question: Which new technology is going to win out: Cable
modem or DSL?
>
> ]From what I hear, DSL is the better of the two because you're always
on, it doesn't tie up your
> phone line and it's better security. Could someone who is "in the
know" provide a more informed
> opinion on the future of everyone's internet connection? Perhaps an
even better technology is
> lurking on the horizon?
>
> Also, could someone post the "top speeds" of both types of connections
and compare them to, for > example, a T1 connection. (How fast is a T1
connection in bps?)
> I realize you can pay more for faster connections, so let's say less
than $50 per month. Which
> gives you the better bandwith for your buck?
If you really want some bandwidth, go for a T3. -45Mbps (Yes, 45 MEGS),
for only about $55000 / year. WHAT A DEAL!!!
-Dan.
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:31:47 -0400
From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Calendar usage skills 101
Message-ID: <20000428003147.B16760@optical.mindstorm.com>
On 2000-04-27 at 20:48 -0700, ytsejam@torchsong.com
<ytsejam@torchsong.com> truly believed:
> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:44:19 -0400
> From: "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org>
> Subject: Re: Cable modem, NEARfest, KC
>
> > Anyone else become a Crucible addict after NEARfest?
>
> Yes Sir! Here's one!
BTW, to those of you that haven't heard the band yet, I *strongly*
recommend them. Sort of old-Genesis-ish, with stronger vocals (and I
like PG), and lyrics about hanging out in the town that all my D&D
adventures started from as a kid. :) Oh, and tons of Hammond and
Mellotron, for you analog freaks (like me :).
Their web page is at:
http://www.moonchildartists.com/crucible/crucible.shtml.
I'll spare JM the Seismic plug again. :)
> > Damn, that's NEARfest weekend.
>
> Check again D-Man, NEARfest is the 17th and 18th! You can
> go afterall! Aren't you glad I'm around to point out that
> you CAN blow more money on concerts?!
Geh! So it is! OK, poll time, dear fellow readers. Do I
1) Go see JP and JR, or
2) go to my ten-year high school reunion?
Votes can go directly to d-man@dreamt.org.
---> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:49:54 -0500 > From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5445
OK, you guys will probably all think I'm completely off for this, but... am I the only one who reads "Kurt M Hampton" and thinks "Mike Hampton" every single time?
Am I really?
Go Mets!
---
Random Thought of the Day, or Why You Shouldn't Post After Midnight:
Is there such a thing as a single woman, in the NYC area, who appreciates music (and not necessarily DT, but definitely the artistry of music), thinks it's cool to be a geek and get paid for it, and isn't an emotional cripple? (If there is, break it to me gently -- I don't want the shock to kill me before I meet her.)
-d "Fuck Elian. Deport that Janet Reno guy." man
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:46:08 -0500 From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Calendar usage skills 101 Message-ID: <B52E81C0.487E%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
the D-Man got funky thusly:
>> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:49:54 -0500 >> From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> >> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5445 > > OK, you guys will probably all think I'm completely off for this, > but... am I the only one who reads "Kurt M Hampton" and thinks "Mike > Hampton" every single time?
D, I thought I was completely insane. Rock on!
-Brian
--
Pictures say it better than words, espcially some words that are big and hard to understand.
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:47:16 -0600 (MDT) From: TEDESCO MATTHEW A <Matthew.Tedesco@Colorado.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Crimson Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000427223852.29210B-100000@ucsub.colorado.edu>
For what it's worth, with the new Crimson on the way in a month, I think it might be a good thing that Bruford and Levin are out. Well, not that THEY'RE out specifically, but just that I thought the double trio idea might have been a bit *too* prodigious. (Never thought I'd say that about Crimson!) I thought the peak of Crimson work was in the 3 albums from the early 80s; the music was the most focused, I think. Of course, maybe more work with the double trio would've helped, but the logistical problems with that were illuminated in the splintering into the ProjeKCts.
Also, rumor has it that this might be Belew's last album with the band. Which, of course, would be an enormous loss, but the way Crimson works, I have trouble believing anything final about any of them, short of death, I guess.
Lastly, picked up the new Levin album, Waters of Eden, along with the new live California Guitar Trio album and the BLUE Nights live double album. All great in their own way. The Levin album is very new age-y, so be warned, if that's not your thing. The BLUE Nights album is, as you'd expect, very improvisational, offering extended versions of most of the stuff from the BLUE album (which is freaking brilliant, for what it's worth). The CGT album is great, offering a fair representation of their live show. In fact, I think it's probably the best representation of them, PERIOD, if anyone is looking for something to pick up by them.
--matt
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:08:44 -0500 From: "Christopher W. Ptacek" <someone@digitalrodent.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: A little more fun with setlist Scottie Message-ID: <001e01bfb0cf$d4b34320$03dffea9@madstation>
> From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com> > I'm not saying it's mandatory that they should, but IMO, there's nothing > wrong with asking for some compensation if a lot of time has been spent > fixing something up. It's no different than finding an old antique piece of > furniture on the side of the road (that the garabage man would be picking up > shortly), restoring it and then selling it for a price. That person may very > well enjoy doing the restoration as well as even enjoy finding specific > items to restore. Does that give someone else the right to say "well, you > gotta give it to me for free, cuz you didn't pay anything for it"? No. Same > in this situation.
This is apples and oranges, bro. No one is throwing out bootlegs. It's not found material. It's bootleg music, which has its own bag of legal and moral and ethical questions with it. That doesn't come when you find a chair in an alley and decide to take it home and make it pretty. If a "provider" had the rights to a show, I.E. a band said "Go ahead and tape, and get as many copies out to people as you can by whatever means you choose" or whatever, then I would be with you. But since this is a gray area, and because of how boots are SUPPOSED to be traded, in optimal conditions, I disagree, as I think one must.
But now, before we continue some big Scott bash or something, I would like everyone to know that Scott is straighter than an arrow (except that I have never seen him with a girl of his own... I wonder... NAH!) and he's RIDICULOUSLY nice. He is the equal of anyone on this list in terms of how loyal a DT fan he is (if not way beyond a lot of us). If this thread is going to continue, let's keep it civil. :)
- Chris
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:16:08 -0400 From: "Ryan Park" <rpark@space-dye.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Jordan/John show -- DC Ytsejammers? Message-ID: <NDBBKMFPMKNHENPACFDDMELECFAA.rpark@space-dye.com>
If anyone is driving from DC to New York for the Rudess/Petrucci show... if you have extra space in your car, any way I can squeeze in? :)
Thanks in advance... e-mail me if you're interested... I'll trade ya some bootlegs or something <g>
Ryan
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:04:59 -0700 From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: I'll let Ryan be the final word Message-ID: <B52E781B.B6%schansen@cts.com>
> Until the subject pops back up again, > Ryan Whitaker > Scarred Records
Well, seeing as Ryan has posted now, I'm not gonna waste anymore bandwidth discussing the topic anymore. I was sticking up for him and since he's speaking up for himself (quite nicely) I feel there's nothing more I need to add. If nothing else, maybe I'll keep from pissing everyone off! :)
Setlist Scotty
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 07:38:22 +0200 From: Daniel Wannemacher <dany@cs.uni-sb.de> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: CD-Burner Message-ID: <20000428073822.A406@jimi.cs.uni-sb.de>
>while on that subject, is there ANY way to obtain a REAL CD >burner? Not one of the CD-R things, but the real deal. How much >are they going for?
AFAIK, real CDs are pressed not burned and I never heard of affordable solutions to produce silvers. You would need a complete pressing plant.
But usually the CD manufacturers have offers for small series (100+). -dany NP: Transatlantic - SMPT:e -- Daniel Wannemacher 'And if I don't see you no more in this world, dany@cs.uni-sb.de I'll meet you in the next one, http://on.to/dany But don't be late............' -J.H.
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:11:28 +0300 From: O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: could someone pick me up couple VCDs from Asia? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000428111128.0095c480@mail.surffi.net>
Hi!
I got a couple of VCDs a friend of mine bought me from China, and I would need few more, so if any of you jammers live in Asia and can get them easily, please contact me, and we'll work something out, thank you.
op777
Thoughts while Eating at McDonald's "...if people were actually shaped like those little "throw litter away" people-figures with the pointy limbs that appear on the boxes the burgers come in, they'd fall into gratings all the time and get stuck. But getting out of jail would be really easy." -Kevin Madden
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:28:26 EET-2 From: "Tanja Sorsa" <Tanja.Sorsa@fng.fi> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: ndtc: New Nightwish Message-ID: <200004280730.KAA04387@sieni.fng.fi>
Hei.
Has anyone of you guys listened to the new Nightwish samples on their homepage www.nightwish.com yet? There are four (1-2 min) MP3s (heh) taken from their up-coming album "Wishmaster". The music and of course Tarja's vox sent chills down my spine. You can also see the beautiful cover art for the new cd on the website. I can't wait till May 19th when the album is released here in Finland!
Tanja Didnīt you read the tale Where happily ever after was to kiss a frog?
some DT record signing pix from Helsinki: http://Taneli.tripod.com/dt2000.htm
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 03:34:30 -0600 From: Vince LuPone <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Guitar Effects (TC, Lex, Even, etc.) ...minor DTC Message-ID: <3.0.32.20000428033429.0068930c@pop02.syspac.com>
Hey, Wow, I think it's been a year since I last posted to the jam. Not bad for a previous MFP champ :) Anyway, I'm in the market for a high-end effects processor for my guitar rig, and I want to know anyone's suggestions on what to buy. What I'm looking for more than anything? Rich reverb & chorus effects, and A GOOD PITCH SHIFTER/HARMONIZER!! Now, I know the standard answer would be Eventide, but my price range caps out @ about $1400. I've looked into the G-Force from TC, and the Lex MPX 1 and MPX G2. The TC unit seems the best (especially since I saw & heard Vai using it a few months back and he sounded pristine), but most reviews of it kill and bury it's pitch shifter. If you own it, what do you think? Is there a better unit for the money? I really dug the effects of the Lex MPX 1, but have yet to try the pitch shifter, and the MPX G2 looks like the MPX 1 with a preamp in it...which I don't need. Is there anything better out there? Which of these is the better box overall? How about for harmonizing? For reference, I'm running a slew of Ibanez guitars (everything from an old EX to a Sabre to a Prestige 7) through a Rocktron Chameleon (don't rip this unit, the factory presets suck, but once you get to tweaking it, the possibilities are endless and the TONE is to die for), through a BBE, Mesa 50/50, and a Mesa Recto 4x12. It's a great, versatile rig and I'm just looking for a great processor to complete the rig. On a side note, Does Petrucci use the Eventide on tour? I didn't get a good look in his rack when they came through town a few months ago, and was wondering if he was using that or a Lexicon unit for his harmonized parts. Anyone know? I realize he doesn't do too many Michael Romeo-type leads with the shifter full on, but I'm sure he uses it for a few things at least in the live show (i.e. Final Tradgedy).
Thanks for any and all help!
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff,
Vince LuPone Guitarist for Obscure http://www.ivorygate.com/obscure/
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:46:23 EET-2 From: "Tanja Sorsa" <Tanja.Sorsa@fng.fi> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: die laughing (ndtc) Message-ID: <200004281048.NAA07370@sieni.fng.fi>
Someone posted this on Perp Mot:
mp3 of enrique iglesias' gig in poland where they had playback shite, but some technician recorded what enriqure really sang. hahaha...
Tanja
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 06:26:27 -0500 From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net> To: <jmsouter@airmail.net> Subject: New Releases Message-ID: <000501bfb104$97ef6f60$e33188cf@jammer>
-- NEW RELEASES --
4/10 -- October 31 - Meet Thy Maker 4/10 -- Decapitated - Winds Of Creation 4/10 -- Peccatum - Oh My Regrets 4/10 -- Immortal - Damned In Black 4/11 -- Savatage - Ghost In The Ruins 4/11 -- Thornspawn - Blood Of The Holy, Taint Thy Steel 4/11 -- Summon - Baptized By Fire 4/11 -- Viking Crown - Innocence From Hell 4/11 -- Usurper - Visions From The Gods 4/11 -- Fleshcrawl - As Blood Rains From The Sky... 4/14 -- Ordained - The Second Coming 4/17 -- Borknagar - Quintessence 4/17 -- Asphyx - On The Wings Of Inferno 4/18 -- Incantation - The Infernal Storm 4/18 -- Black Label Society - Stronger Than Death 4/18 -- Cephalic Carnage - Exploiting Dysfunction 4/18 -- Kreator - Voices Of Transgression 4/18 -- Alice Cooper - Brutal Planet 4/18 -- Nok - Vent 4/18 -- Running Wild - Victory 4/18 -- Various Artists - Heavy Metal F.A.K.K. II 4/25 -- Atomic Opera - Gospel Cola 4/25 -- The Quiet Room - Reconceive 4/25 -- Domine - Dragon Lord 4/25 -- Spock's Beard - Don't Try This At Home (Live) 4/25 -- Mental Home - Upon The Shores Of Inner Seas 4/25 -- Century Media Compilation - Identity 6 4/25 -- U.D.O. - No Limit 4/25 -- U.D.O. - Solid 4/25 -- Destruction - All Hell Breaks Loose 4/25 -- The Step Kings - Let's Get It On! 4/25 -- Shelter - When 20 Summers Pass 4/25 -- Sacred Steel - Bloodlust 4/25 -- Mrs. Hippie - Lotus 4/25 -- Boysetsfire - After the Eulogy 5/01 -- Night in Gales - Nailwork 5/02 -- Shaft - Quint 5/02 -- Power Symphony - Lightbringer 5/02 -- Shovelbarn 5/03 -- Storyteller - Storyteller 5/03 -- Mirsteltein - Rape In Rapture 5/08 -- Iron Maiden - The Wickerman 5/08 -- Brainstorm - Ambiguity 5/08 -- Hammerheart Records Compilation - Sign of the Hammer 5/08 -- Helstar - Twas The Night Of A Helish Christmas 5/09 -- Jag Panzer - Thane To The Throne 5/09 -- Sinner - The End of Sanctuary 5/09 -- Accept - Objection Overruled 5/09 -- Accept - Death Row 5/09 -- Vader - Litany 5/09 -- Mortification - 10 Years Live Not Dead 5/09 -- Kenziner - The Prophecies 5/15 -- Motorhead - We Are Motorhead 5/16 -- Lowbrow - Victims at Play
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 07:36:18 -0400 From: Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com, Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: die laughing (ndtc) Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000428073554.00ab8a80@pop.ecosoft.com>
I've never truly heard what mating yaks sound like....
At 04:15 AM 4/28/00 -0700, Tanja Sorsa wrote:
>Someone posted this on Perp Mot: > >http://62.20.102.95/ > >mp3 of enrique iglesias' gig in poland where they had playback >shite, but some technician recorded what enriqure really sang. >hahaha... > >Tanja
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 07:57:49 -0400 From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5448 Message-ID: <20000428.080041.-867327.1.Axeman_dannl@juno.com>
> In other more lighthearted news, I'm in three scenes of that Natalie Portman > movie that's coming out today (Friday). =)
YOU BASTARD!!!
Double that senntiment if you got to meet her, or Ashely Judd. :-)
-Dan. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:05:45 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5448 Message-ID: <39097E99.9482877D@yunque.net>
Dan Costello wrote:
> > In other more lighthearted news, I'm in three scenes of that Natalie > Portman > > movie that's coming out today (Friday). =) > > YOU BASTARD!!! > > Double that senntiment if you got to meet her, or Ashely Judd. :-) > > -Dan. >
True!! true!! Tell us which scenes and stuff so we can see you, then be even more jelous of you... :)--
Come into this night, Your plight alone Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us Come into this night, You only home Itīs never too late, To repent, suffer the loss Opeth : Benighted Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:15:13 +1000 From: "Graham B" <graham@renegade2K.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: ndtc: New Nightwish Message-ID: <200004281319.e3SDJMd27873@sampa.simpleweb.com.br>
> Has anyone of you guys listened to the new Nightwish samples on > their homepage www.nightwish.com yet? There are four (1-2 min) > MP3s (heh) taken from their up-coming album "Wishmaster". The > music and of course Tarja's vox sent chills down my spine. You > can also see the beautiful cover art for the new cd on the website. I > can't wait till May 19th when the album is released here in Finland!
The whole album is brilliant, easily the year's best so far. Tune into seismic radio tomorrow at 12 midday Helsinki time (10am London time) and hear the whole album :) pnm://total.devastation.com:7171/seismicradio.ram
gaz
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:39:12 -0400 From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Queen Amidala Message-ID: <002801bfb10e$c4a269e0$0200010a@steve>
> In other more lighthearted news, I'm in three scenes of that Natalie Portman > movie that's coming out today (Friday). =)
Shit! I wish Id known someone was going to see her - I'd have told you to give her my number! (she's over 18, right?) :P
Steve Z
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 05:57:58 -0800 (PST) From: "Webmaster Ytsejam.com" <webmaster@ytsejam.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Trevor Rabin Message-ID: <20000428125758.D225650AB@sitemail.everyone.net>
D-Man Wrote:
>I've been there, too. The problem is, most people with whom I try to >argue the merits and shortcomings of Rabin, *always* bring up Howe in >comparison. "Trevor's great because Howe sucks." "He *what*?" >"Well, he's sloppy." (Which reminds me -- why does everyone equate >"sloppy" with "bad"?)
- Well Lloyd, My guitar player, always brings up that fact that he likes the way the songs and vocal arrangements were written when Trev came in.
- I'll play something off "Open Your Eyes" which has the original lineup and Lloyd'll say, "Those Harmonies came about because of Trevor Rabin"
- Don't get me wrong, I like most everything YES has done, even some of Jon Andersons New Age stuff, but I really like music by the early original lineup.
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:04:43 -0400 From: Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: absinthe, nightwish, etc Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000428100255.00abb260@pop.ecosoft.com>
Firstly, I downloaded some mp3's of Nightwish and am checking them out right now. halfway through the song stargazers... I hope that's a chick singing.. i'll have to listen to the rest of them before i formulate an opinion. Definitely good music though.
Secondly, have anyone heard of Absinthe ? from the boston area? I thought i saw someone mention them ad i just found out that a guy i work with is in the band. Was wondering if i was imagining it.. www.absintherocks.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- Robb Muise "An it harm none, do as ye will" Shore.net Network Operations Center Email:robbm@shore.net Phone:781-593-3110 ext181 Cell Phone: 978-884-6423
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