YTSEJAM Digest 5419
Today's Topics:
1) Sean Malone and Sean Reinert
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
2) re: Ytse Pics, Mike Bahr
by Pat Griffin <s1029516@admiral.umsl.edu>
3) DT in Time Magazine!!
by Isaac Sabetai <isabetai@bu.edu>
4) Re: Faq joke
by mildew@ucla.edu
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5418
by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
6) Mike Bahr ?????????
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
7) Re: Live & Alive Vol 2?
by "Edward Polzin" <epolzin@home.com>
8) Re: The Sixth Sense -SPOILERS- (if you haven't seen it, don't read)
by "Edward Polzin" <epolzin@home.com>
9) RE: The Sixth Sense -SPOILERS- (if you haven't seen it, don't read)
by "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <todd@klindt.org>
10) Trades anyone ? DT, QR, etc...
by MentalHunk@aol.com
11) Jamming in NYC
by "Philip J. Kaplan" <pk@pkinteractive.com>
12) relax!
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
13) DT Overplaying...?
by "David Ware" <d.ware@rpc-corby.co.uk>
14) Rock Solid?
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
15) RE: Sixth Sense
by "Herbert, Jason" <jherbert@biccgeneral.com>
16) Re: Sixth Sense
by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
17) RE: Sixth Sense
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
18) Sixth Sense (Non-spoilatory)
by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
19) 6th Sense
by Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
20) Re: Sixth Sense
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
21) Re: Sixth Sense korg pls read
by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
22) cash in advance foreign buyer/from Jose Carr/from Helen Astor/pres please
by int22@penguinpowered.com, jose722@compaqsucks.com
23) Re: 6th Sense
by Robert Muise <robbm@shore.net>
24) RE: 6th Sense
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:49:37 +0200
From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Sean Malone and Sean Reinert
Message-ID: <003001bf9db6$81ed8960$0100007f@localhost>
John Parks wrote:
> It has two of my favorite Musicians: Sean Malone and
> Sean Reinert.
In case you didn't know yet: Sean Malone, Sean Reinert
and Jason Gorbel (who were all in Cynic) are currently
working on a new "Gordian Knot" album, which should be
out late Spring/early Summer... It will feature guest
musicians, just like the first "Gordian Knot" album...
Mark Bredius
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:55:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: Pat Griffin <s1029516@admiral.umsl.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: re: Ytse Pics, Mike Bahr
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10004031654321.13707-100000@admiral.umsl.edu>
In the last jam, Ultraking@aol.com wrote:
> I just found this little Jem of a web site. Cant believe I missed
> this before.
> http://www.tequila.demon.co.uk/
> All Jammers should check this out and send your pics to it. Its nice
> to be able to put a face with the names. Not to mention there are
> some nice lookin' chicks there too!!!! Anyway, look forward to seeing
> you there.
My fiancee maintains the #ytsejam IRC Homepage which contains info on
joining the IRC channel to chat with fellow DT fans, plus has pictures of
many of the channel regulars. If you frequent IRC, send in your pic and
bio to be added.
The site will be moving to gabbo.net down the line, but for now it can be
found at:
http://www.ameritech.net/users/dt_irc/welcome.htm
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The same person also asked about Mike Bahr. Bahr was a very popular
provider of Dream Theater Bootlegs in the old days. His first few
releases were very rare versions of popular DT songs, live performances,
as well as material that wasn't available on DT CDs. They were limited
editions of somewhere between 500 and 1500 (I think) numbered CDs that
were actually pressed by a plant (not CD-R).
Mike was later plagued by legal problems and had to change to producing
his own CD-R bootlegs since he could no longer have the material pressed.
He fell behind on orders, and fell out of favor of most of the mailing
list at the time. He's been pretty quiet in recent years, and I think he
has gotten out of the bootleg business, at least on the retail level.
His early CDs usually sell for a couple of hundred dollars when they come
up for auction. Now that the taboo has passed you can probably get
someone to knock you off a CD-R dupe of the discs for a more reasonable
price. The material is still good, even if the collector's value is no
longer there.
I could go into more detail if I wanted, but I think it will leave it at
that. If you want to know more, just ask, I'm sure that either myself or
others can provide you with whatever info you need.
Later,
Pat
h t t p : / / w w w . r e a l i t y s q u a r e d . c o m /
| Pat Griffin gabbo@dreamt.org Reality Squared Design |
h t t p : / / w w w . r e a l i t y s q u a r e d . c o m /
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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 18:57:00 +0000
From: Isaac Sabetai <isabetai@bu.edu>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DT in Time Magazine!!
Message-ID: <38E8E97A.B25C7C05@bu.edu>
Well, sort of... In this week's issue there's a story called: "Sipowicz
Goes Cyber" by Ron Stodghill II. It begins:
Marty Kolakowski doesn't fancy himself a gifted writer. But the nerdy
25-year-old has a knack for creating believable characters. Among his
favorites is Melissa, a cute high school freshman who spends her
evenings listening to Creed and Dream Theater-- and chatting about sex
online with adult men. Her mom, Melissa tells these men, is so strict
that she is thinking of moving in with her stepsiter, a party girl who
shacks up with her boyfriend.
*****
So the first time in ages DT gets any recognition in the mainstream
press, it happens to be in an article about people who catch kiddie
pornographers and other online criminals. Sometimes you take what you
can get...
Isaac
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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 15:44:16 -0800
From: mildew@ucla.edu
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Faq joke
Message-ID: <200004032243.PAA08963@panther.noc.ucla.edu>
I like the April 99 story of James (better known as Fabio) getting hit by a bird at http://www.gabbo.net/dt/faq/af99/ . Especially when I figured out that the pic of Petrucci to the right of Fabio is one that I took in Irving Plaza for the Christmas 98 shows http://www.ben2.ucla.edu/~mildew/petrucci_hy.jpg :) I got a good laugh out of that. Good to know I wasn't crazy when I thought it looked familiar.
As for that site with the pics on it, last time I looked, it was hideously out of date. I had quite a few lonely jammer guys bother me after they saw my picture on the old #ytsejam page on UACM, so I haven't bothered to submit it to the new one.
~~Amanda
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:50:43 -0400
From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5418
Message-ID: <001201bf9dbf$0c154c60$0200010a@steve>
> that is too bad...he is by far better than DS and to put him
over jordan in
> all categories is most unfortunate to you...u just dont see
where JR is coming
> from....
I see where he's coming from: a completely adolescent
perspective on musical performance. He'd fit in well with Dream
Theater...in the Majesty days.
> >< I'd like to thank everyone for COMPLETELY ruining this
movie for me.
> How about some spoiler warnings next time. Thanks. ><
>
> The subject specifically said "The Sixth Sense -SPOILERS- (if
you haven't
> seen it, don't read)" so if you read it, it's your fault.
As I recall, the original post had no spoiler warnings. The
follow ups did, but by then it was too late.
Steve Z
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:46:23 -0400
From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Mike Bahr ?????????
Message-ID: <35A7D40B978CD311AF05002048404D34011BF9AA@wm2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
>> Who is Mike Bahr?
No, no, no, no, no, no, DOH !!
His name is MATT Bahr and he was the place-kicker for the New England
Patriots. He wasn't that good from a distance, but he was indeed quite
reliable otherwise.
DTC = I have heard stories that crazy mad people would call out for him at
DT concerts. Even from outside of the venue. Odd. Very odd.
Mark Metzger
markymark@comversens.com
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:24:57 -0500
From: "Edward Polzin" <epolzin@home.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Live & Alive Vol 2?
Message-ID: <00b201bf9dd4$96b2efc0$0200a8c0@oklwn1.il.home.com>
> Anyone know the origin of the Charlie-sung songs on Live & Alive, Vol 2
> bootleg?? I have it on a cassette, it's not in the tourography on the
> Lines In The Sand web site. It's not the same as Consciously Unreal.
nope, all james. it's the same date as the Live in Long Island boot
(10/4/92 ?).
Edward Polzin
Live and Rare Recordings
http://members.home.net/epolzin
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:30:27 -0500
From: "Edward Polzin" <epolzin@home.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense -SPOILERS- (if you haven't seen it, don't read)
Message-ID: <00ca01bf9dd5$5b974b60$0200a8c0@oklwn1.il.home.com>
I think he does realize it once he helps the girl that was poisoned. he
realizes that Malcolm needs to be "helped" as well. Of course that's my
opinion.
Edward Polzin
Live and Rare Recordings
http://members.home.net/epolzin
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:51:10 -0500
From: "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <todd@klindt.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: The Sixth Sense -SPOILERS- (if you haven't seen it, don't read)
Message-ID: <004f01bf9dd8$408889d0$3464a8c0@klindt.org>
Here's my take.
The boy knew all along that Malcolm was dead. That explains why he ran to
the church the first time he saw him. If you watch the movie again you'll
notice he never speaks to Malcolm when there is anyone around. He also made
the comment about speaking to the wife while she was sleeping.
If you've only seen this movie once, do yourself a favor and see it again.
The way it was done was amazing, simply amazing. The fact that throughout
the entire movie Malcolm wears the same clothes, never speaks to a person
beside the boy, is never spoken to by anyone but the boy and only interacts
with one (that I can find) inanimate object and it isn't distracting, or
ever noticeable is amazing. A lot of movies attempt the surprise twist at
the end. None handle it as well as the Sixth Sense.
It is a truly great movie.
tk
-----Original Message-----
]From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of
Edward Polzin
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 8:41 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense -SPOILERS- (if you haven't seen it, don't
read)
I think he does realize it once he helps the girl that was poisoned. he
realizes that Malcolm needs to be "helped" as well. Of course that's my
opinion.
Edward Polzin
Live and Rare Recordings
http://members.home.net/epolzin
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:44:19 EDT
From: MentalHunk@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Trades anyone ? DT, QR, etc...
Message-ID: <c8.3291836.261ab103@aol.com>
Hey gang...
I finally joined the 90's/2k and got myself a cd burner....
If anyone is interested in doing some trading please e-mail me with your list
and I will send you mine in return.....
I have a decent amount of stuff but its still not enough :-)
references would help....I have some as well....
talk soon
Tom
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:31:15 -0400
From: "Philip J. Kaplan" <pk@pkinteractive.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Jamming in NYC
Message-ID: <NDBBJDCNILGDEGLNGLEFCELJCMAA.pk@pkinteractive.com>
Hey,
Anyone in NYC want to start a band? Or just jam a little? If you are
really good and play anything other than drums (I'm a drummer...) give me a
reply...
- Phil
- pk@pkinteractive.com
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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 20:35:44 PDT
From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: relax!
Message-ID: <20000404033545.13251.qmail@hotmail.com>
that is too bad...he is by far better than DS and to put him over jordan in
all categories is most unfortunate to you...u just dont see were JR is
coming from....now someone else said that they wish that JR could play some
slow moody type things well then check out his solo stuff...he has to great
moody albums...and he has only played On 1 Dt album remember that....im sure
down the road we will see some Moody stuff Relax!
Hey! I'm relaxed =^). I LOVE the 'ragtime on crack' part, and the synth horn
thing, (I HATE the fake sitar, though =^). It's not that I don't think
JR's a great player, it's just that he doesn't seem to add as much as KM or
DS did. That's a pretty vague statement, I know....
Banjoman doesn't want to debate this any more, because he still thinks
that DT kicks ass
np: Edgar Meyer + Joshua Bell - Short Trip Home (has anyone heard the new
Appalacia Waltz CD? Is it even out yet?)
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:46:31 +0100
From: "David Ware" <d.ware@rpc-corby.co.uk>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DT Overplaying...?
Message-ID: <001001bf9e12$46577580$1f010032@corbyedp4>
Gotta love this subject...! Only DT fans would slag OFB for
overplaying....er did I miss the point. Yeah they write fantastic music,
yeah they are great musicians...oh and yeah - they masterbate - but that's
why we love them. For all of the reasons....!
My 2 pence...DT on Wednesday - any UK Jammers already seen them -
reviews....?
Dave (a UK jammer).
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:20:32 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Rock Solid?
Message-ID: <000901bf9e49$62de99e0$0201010a@chuck>
Here's something on ebay that caught my eye.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=297291447
It's a 5 CD set of guitar lessons from several back issues of guitar
magazines. It looks as though it contains sound clips, tabs, the
lessons, etc. Not too shabby. There's alot of people with lessons I've
never heard of, but it has lessons from alot of the rock greats: Eric,
John, Paul, Marty, Kirk (bwahahahaha), etc.
With all of the guitar afficionados on the list, I thought someone might
be interested. :)
-- KorgX3 cough weasel. NP: Symphony X - Pharaoh.mp3------------------------------
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 12:03:27 -0400 From: "Herbert, Jason" <jherbert@biccgeneral.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Sixth Sense Message-ID: <6D70903196D4D11190680008C728A61D026B1F45@HQEXS01>
>>< I'd like to thank everyone for COMPLETELY ruining this movie for me. >How about some spoiler warnings next time. Thanks. >< > >The subject specifically said "The Sixth Sense -SPOILERS- (if you haven't >seen it, don't read)" so if you read it, it's your fault.
In all fairness, the very first message posted, which revealed the most significant plot point of the film, did NOT contain the SPOILER warning. It was only the replies that included the warning. When I first saw it, I thought someone who hadn't seen it yet was going to be upset. And they were. And rightfully so, I think.
-Zircon the Blue
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 12:37:35 -0300 From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Sixth Sense Message-ID: <000b01bf9e4b$b359b600$37351ec8@yunque.net>
> In all fairness, the very first message posted, which revealed the most > significant plot point of the film, did NOT contain the SPOILER warning. It > was only the replies that included the warning. When I first saw it, I > thought someone who hadn't seen it yet was going to be upset. And they > were. And rightfully so, I think. > > -Zircon the Blue
Im 95% sure Alexis's original message DID contain the spoiler warning on the subject..if anyone who gets digest mode, and saves it has it around, or Alexis if you have it on your sent items box could clear this up...because i remember that he did.. still...if you havent seen the movie, and dont want to be spoiled why read an email titled sixth sense anyways? What can anyone on a list discuss about it that wont probably spoil you?
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:16:32 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Sixth Sense Message-ID: <A65ADB6BE999D3118F650008C7E61752117C7A@MESSAGING>
Alrighty, people - the original message DID have the SPOILER warning:
-----Original Message----- ]From: Alexis/Axel [mailto:alexis1@prtc.net] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 9:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: The Sixth Sense -SPOILERS- (if you haven't seen it, don't read)
Hey people!!! This happens to be way off topic, but this is the only <snip> --------------------------
David Dixon, MCP Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com ytsedave@asu.edu
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Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 13:25:05 -0400 From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Sixth Sense (Non-spoilatory) Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000404125952.00a9de60@cs.millersville.edu>
Just checked the vault (my overflowing trash bin, filled with vintage Ytsejam): there've been spoiler warnings since the get-go. The original's subject line was...
>Subject: The Sixth Sense -SPOILERS- (if you haven't seen it, don't read)
Demand is intense for this film at the video store where I work. We actually had to answer the phones like this last Saturday night:
"Video Store [*], we're out of Sixth Sense." [* -- name changed to protect the identity of the innocent]
..to which the caller would reply.
"Uh-huh, but do you have any Sixth Sense?"
Then there's the people that have no idea what the movie's called and want it more because it's new than because they heard anything good about it. "Do you have the Six Senses?" "The Bonecracker? [Bone Collector]" "America The Beautiful? [American Beauty, not the '70s movie]"
If you've ever seen that part in "Clerks", the video store questions montage...dead-on accurate. Kevin Smith must've worked at one back in the day.
Just a slice of life, folks. Eat it if you like.
Brian
[NP...Jethro Tull -- Nightcap]
================================== WB Henderson [wbhender@cs.millersville.edu] WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com Automaton Hit Parade (progrock radio): http://www.millersville.edu/~wixq/Automaton ==================================
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:49:46 -0400 From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: 6th Sense Message-ID: <20000404.151607.-865485.3.Axeman_dannl@juno.com>
> I'd like to thank everyone for COMPLETELY ruining this movie for > me. How about some spoiler warnings next time. Thanks.
Just about everybody put spoiler warnings in. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:26:21 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Sixth Sense Message-ID: <001901bf9e6b$aae8b550$0201010a@chuck>
hehehe. I haven't been able to read the 'jam for two days for fear of spoiling the movie. :P Haven't had the chance to see it yet. :\ Kinda sucks that I already accidentally started reading into one post that was totally revealing little plot secrets. Bleah.
I hope knowing something about whether the kid knew this psychologist was dead or not doesn't kill the movie for me. Grrrr... Fucking Grizzly! -- KorgX3 glues his hair back on his car. NP: Angra - Wings of Reality.mp3
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:51:22 -0300 From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Sixth Sense korg pls read Message-ID: <000701bf9e66$c596a420$37351ec8@yunque.net>
> I hope knowing something about whether the kid knew this psychologist > was dead or not doesn't kill the movie for me. Grrrr... Fucking > Grizzly! >
Well , i dont know if youre serious or not, but if you already know this, ..it sort of ruins something very important in the movie. Although the movie is still worth seeing.
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:02:50 -0700 (PDT) From: int22@penguinpowered.com, jose722@compaqsucks.com Subject: cash in advance foreign buyer/from Jose Carr/from Helen Astor/pres please Message-ID: <200004042002.NAA15093@knight.axnet.net>
Can you use a good distributor in South America? This will be on a cash basis on a steady basis.
Jose Carr Helen Astor
int22@penguinpowered.com jose722@compaqsucks.com jose811@canoemail.com
Additionally you can
fax us at 5305098416 (U.S. fax number that we will get electronicaly ) include your email address and contact person please.
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:06:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Muise <robbm@shore.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: 6th Sense Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10004041705570.24957-100000@vineyard.ecosoft.com>
I can see dead threads...
On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Dan Costello wrote:
> > > I'd like to thank everyone for COMPLETELY ruining this movie for > > me. How about some spoiler warnings next time. Thanks. > > Just about everybody put spoiler warnings in. > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:12:49 -0700 From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: 6th Sense Message-ID: <A65ADB6BE999D3118F650008C7E61752117C7B@MESSAGING>
> I can see dead threads...
Walking around like regular threads... :)
David Dixon, MCP Internet Developer Integrated Information Systems, Inc. david@iisweb.com ytsedave@asu.edu
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