YTSEJAM Digest 5592
Today's Topics:
1) 14 New reviews + news ect
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar?= Bevolden <bjornar.bevolden@hm.telia.no>
2) NDTC
by Adrian Tunggono <pluki7@indosat.net.id>
3) Gregg
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
4) Spock's Beard Newsletter
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
5) Re: NDTC OPETH!
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
6) FS: a bunch of CDs/Videos
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5591
by "Adam N. Yarter" <jaguirre@ix.netcom.com>
8) Iron Maiden Vid
by Pam Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
9) Metropolis book on Amazon
by "James C. Shields" <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
10) disconnected: mixed reviews???
by "Matthew Tedesco" <Matthew.Tedesco@colorado.edu>
11) Re: disconnected: mixed reviews???
by JamesAhab@aol.com
12) Why cancelled???????
by =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Atreides?= <muaddib_of_arrakis@yahoo.com>
13) Re: disconnected: mixed reviews???
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
14) Progrock.com
by "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
15) Magna Carta, Spock's Beard, DT video
by Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com>
16) PMU Hamlet quote
by "Larry Odneal" <ldo7@home.com>
17) just got mine
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
18) Roseland Ballroom Show
by david Heliotis <wiggin@nac.net>
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:15:56 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar?= Bevolden <bjornar.bevolden@hm.telia.no>
To: "ytsejam@torchsong.com" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: 14 New reviews + news ect
Message-ID: <39A8F86C.98794270@hm.telia.no>
Update at Barcode 26/08-00
*New reviews:
Avalon- Eurasia
Empty Tremor- Eros and Thanatos
Iron Fire- Thunderstorm
Lost Weekend- Presence of mind
Madsword- The global village
Melodica- Long way from home
Position- The message
Raine- Peace
Secret Sphere- Mistress of the shadowlight
Storyteller- Corridors of windows
Symmetry- Watching the unseen
Symphorce- Sinctuary
Ten- Babylon
Timestorm- Shades of unconsciousness
*New feature, Barcode has taken a closer look at the
band contestants in the PROGPOWER COMPETITION!
*News on:
:The Pain of Salvation News Letter August 2000
:PROGPOWER NOTE
:NOWANDTHEN RECORDS RELEASE SCHEDULE
:MAGNITUDE 9 MESSAGE
:RHAPSODY
:Latest News from Beseech
:Tobias Sammet`s Avastasia:
:ELEGY's
:KILLING MACHINE's
:ROB ROCK's
:VINCE NEIL
:MOTLEY CRUE
:L.A. GUNS
:SAVANNAH
:LEGS DIAMOND's
:JOHN SYKES'
:FLIPP
:THY MAJESTY
:NOCTURNAL RITES
:STORMHAMMER
:Lion Music News
:Änglagård "Hybris" re-issued
:RUSH
:RUSTY COOLEY
:RAINMAKER
:TILES
:CORNERSTONE's
:MILLION
:ex TESLA
:OPETH
:WHITE SISTER's
:ULI JON ROTH
:YNGWIE MALMSTEEN's
:TRIUMPH guitarist
:ANNIHILATOR '
:POWERGOD
:DEREK SHERINIAN
:ARTILLERY's
:MITCH MALLOY
:DAMN YANKEES
:SHAMELESS
:Julian Angel
:JAMES BYRD
:STUN LEER
:HEARTLAND
:Intruder's
:FIREHOUSE
:David Coverdale
:DANGER DANGER
:ENUFF`Z NUFF
:PROTOTYPE
:New Pain Of Salvation album is imminent
:Vanden Plas release live album!
:VAN HALEN
:PRIME TIME
:Graham Bonnet
:HURRICANE,
:Singer FREDDY CURCI (ex-SHERIFF/ALIAS)
:PRAYING MANTIS
:HEAVEN & EARTH
:DAVID GLEN EISLEY
:DOGFACE,
:ALFONZETTI´s
:IMPELLITTERI
:TONY IOMMI
:SONATA ARTICA
:PRIMAL FEAR
:AVALON
:CAGE
:EMPYRIA's
:TAD MOROSE'
:WOLVERINE MESSAGE
:EX GUARDIAN
:ROULETTE
:MORIFADE NEWS
:ARCHONTES
:ZONATA MESSAGE
:BURNING RAIN/PLEASURE TO BURN
:DOKKEN - DVD For Xmas!
:The Elements Of Friction
:LOOKING GLASS SELF
:MOONLIGHT CIRCUS
*SAMPLES: No new samples this time, but 44 samples are still
available and there is more to come shortly!
Many superb albums reviewed this time, hope you like it!
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All the best,
Dylan and Bjørnar!
Bjørnar NP: Enchant- Holland, Progfest 2/7-94
-- Writer for: Barcode: http://zap.to/barcode Download my cd-list. Over 2500 titles. Lots of rarities available for cdr trades: http://home.no.net/bbevolde/cd-list-text.zip------------------------------
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 17:41:56 +0700 From: Adrian Tunggono <pluki7@indosat.net.id> To: ~status seekers <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: NDTC Message-ID: <39A8F070.ED58268E@indosat.net.id>
I've been listening to all Opeth CDs lately.
So here's one complaint; (bombastic mode ON) why do they have to repeat EVERY fucking riff FOUR times? It's so predictable that it becomes ridiculous at times! (bombastic mode OFF)
Other than that, they're awesome! Nice melodies and drumming. I have no problem with the vocals, in fact I really like the vocals, but Opeth is not for cookie-monster haters ;-) They mixed it beautifully with normal vocals, though.
The sound makes me feel like I'm lost in this imaginary forest of magic. Perhaps it's the reverb, perhaps it's that combination of normal-monstrous vocals, but I'm not sure. It surely sounds like its own genre, what, forest metal? :-)
Anyhow, if I really really liked the first Planet X, will I like the second? (silly me, how would anyone know that?) I mean, how do the two compare to each other?
NP: In Blue-The Corrs
PS: I still don't quite understand why some of you seemed to have something against Caroline Corr's drumming. Oh, OK. Perhaps I'm biased here. Beautiful girls playing drums are such a turn-on to me.
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 12:53:11 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Gregg Message-ID: <39A8F317.ACF01BED@mol.com.mk>
Thanx to everybody for the fills. Yeah, Greg has a great fave songlist there. :)
> From: "xxx" <hipodilski@phreedom.org> > > Oh, you silly guitarist... :) Here is the complete list (taken > from the August 98 issue of Modern Drummer)
Shut up metal head! At least I could recognize by myself half of those, I don't need crappy magazines telling me those. :) I thought you're studying, ish, ish..
> 1. "Frankenstein" - Chuck Ruff (Edgar Winter Group)
never heard. That's Johnny Winter's bro right? I LOVE Johnny Winter. Doesn't his bro play similar music, or.. someone mentioned their original Frankenstein is great prog. stuff?
> 5. "We're An American Band" - Don Brewer (Grand Funk Railroad)
Very good rockin' tune. :)
> 6. "Tomorrow Never Dies" - Ringo Starr (Beatles) > 10. "Manic Depression" - Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix) > 11. "Rosanna" - Jeff Porcaro (Toto) > 12. "Come Together" - Ringo Starr (Beatles)
Damn it, how could I miss these. As I thought so, I listen all this stuff and have it in my home, but it was just plain odd tryin' to recognize them just from the drums without knowing where they're coming from.
LOL, I never expected THAT MUCH replies. All are musicians freaks out here eh? ;) The kind of folks we get bashed about, like ... only musicians likes DT. :)
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 15:39:14 +0200 From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>, "The Mirror" <themirror@egroups.com> Subject: Spock's Beard Newsletter Message-ID: <000d01c0102c$309bdba0$0100007f@localhost>
Hey all,
For those of you who are interested... I recently started a Spock's Beard newsletter, similar to the Dream Theater one.
You can subscribe by sending a blank email to:
Or read the first issue at:
http://www.spocksbeard.org/sbnews/20000826.htm
Thanks :-)
Mark Bredius ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.spocksbeard.org/ : Spock's Beard - Strange World Send email to sbnews-subscribe@egroups.com to receive the latest Spock's Beard news, tour dates and information. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.digitalrodent.com/itchy/ - Visit Planet Itchy!
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:58:14 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: NDTC OPETH! Message-ID: <39A92C85.6E613C85@yunque.net>
Adrian Tunggono wrote:
> I've been listening to all Opeth CDs lately. > > So here's one complaint; > (bombastic mode ON) > why do they have to repeat EVERY fucking riff FOUR times? It's so > predictable that it becomes ridiculous at times! > (bombastic mode OFF) > > Other than that, they're awesome! Nice melodies and drumming. I have no > problem with the vocals, in fact I really like the vocals, but Opeth is > not for cookie-monster haters ;-) They mixed it beautifully with normal > vocals, though. > > The sound makes me feel like I'm lost in this imaginary forest of magic. > Perhaps it's the reverb, perhaps it's that combination of > normal-monstrous vocals, but I'm not sure. It surely sounds like its own > genre, what, forest metal? :-)
Cool ! Opeth rocks IMO, theyre easily my favorite band right now. (yeah I *didnt* forget DT) Which album are you talking about (the four times riff thing?) The latest album is their best IMO, and the predictability is good IMO again (in this type of music) because i found myself learning the songs (even though theyre long) and singing along with them (yes you can sing along with them , specially the melodic/clean vocal parts)
I have to , again, be an opeth-nazi and urge everyone with an open mind to check out Opeth's *Still Life*. Even if you dont enjoy growled vocals please keep and open mind because music as intricate, exciting, beautiful, energetic and moving as this disc is hard to come by lately..
Come into this night, Your plight alone Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us Come into this night, You only home It´s never too late, To repent, suffer the loss Opeth : Benighted Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 12:09:46 -0400 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FS: a bunch of CDs/Videos Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20000827120946.0079c620@mail.erinet.com>
If you are interested in any of this stuff, email me at dantemm@erinet.com The videos are at the bottom. Thanks, Dan
+=3D=3D+ CDs for Sale. Prices listed by each item. Shipping is=20 INCLUDED. Discounts given for multiple items purchased. =09
For information, tracklist, etc on any of this stuff,=20 email me. I accept credit cards (through PayPal), checks, money orders.=09
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For information, tracklist, etc on any of this stuff,=20 email me. I accept credit cards (through PayPal), checks, money orders.=09
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 09:21:53 -0700 From: "Adam N. Yarter" <jaguirre@ix.netcom.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5591 Message-ID: <000401c01042$eb39e5e0$5619fea9@adamyart>
> >Greetings fellow Jamsters, > >Speaking of Fates.. <grin> I've had "Disconnected" since it was >released a month ago... I love the music, but the recording sucks! >It's noisy, has WAY too many effects, and they destroyed much of >the vocals using excessive compression. They even added reverb >and delay to a fucking piano! There is never a moment of absolute >silence. Nothing ever gets a chance to decay. A note just hangs in >an effects loop until it's replaced by something else. YUK! > >Give me the master tapes and about a month in a first rate studio >and I could resurrect this recording and give it the breathing room >it deserves. Sigh... > >Has anybody else noticed these recording shortcomings? > >-- >Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist > ^
I'll agree that the recording is rather noisy, but hey, it's Metal Blade. What do you expect? =] j/k. No, really, it's noisy, but I think that a lot of teh effects add to the atmosphere. I was actually ecstatic to hear the reverb on the piano in Disconnected Pt II. Withoug it the song wouldn't have the same atmosphere to it. I don't think that they destroyed the vocals at all. I do, however, wish that the recording was better.
Regards, Adam
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:28:55 -0500 From: Pam Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Iron Maiden Vid Message-ID: <l03020900b5ceefc62982@[209.224.35.194]>
>On Wednesday, August 30th, we are encouraging Metaldom to unite and stand >against this evil corporate empire by flooding TRL >with votes for IRON MAIDEN'S "THE WICKER MAN."
I thought this was a pretty good idea until I saw the video. I do like Maiden, but this video is badddd! It is very unimaginative, same old-same old 80's low budget type crap. The song and the band deserve much better. I hope Wicker Man does not make it on TRL it would be an embarassment to metal fans everywhere.
And yes, this is just IMHO!!!
Pam
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:29:19 -0500 From: "James C. Shields" <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Metropolis book on Amazon Message-ID: <B5CEAC0F.A77%jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
I ran across this the other day, for all you guitarists who are interested:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0769296521/qid%3D967393535/104-699988 7-8954338
Have fun!
@!# @!# @!# @!# Jim guitarist, Room 213 www.room213.com
"Don't let the world bring you down Not everyone here is that fucked up and cold remember why you came and while you're alive Experience the warmth before you grow old"
Incubus @!# @!# @!# @!#
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:58:08 -0600 From: "Matthew Tedesco" <Matthew.Tedesco@colorado.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: disconnected: mixed reviews??? Message-ID: <002c01c01050$5c6ab8e0$b0598a80@fx1f00b>
Mixed reviews for disconnected???
Well, I've only heard glowing reviews, though I'm sure that some bad ones are floating around out there. If it'll sway you, though, throw me in the corner of one more glowing review. It's more aggressive than APSoG, but I think it sustains the mood that APSoG captured. And Still Remains is going to go down as an all-time prog classic, along with songs like Metropolis, Natural Science, Heart of the Sunrise, etc.
And while I'm on the topic of glowing reviews, if you good folks haven't picked up the new Spock's Beard album "V" by now... well... you should. Possibly their best album, also more aggressive and a bit darker than their last release.
--mt
> From: "Kez" <bkeyser@cox.rr.com> > Subject: Re: Fates Warning - Disconnected > > Actually, I don't have it yet. Too many mixed reviews. I DO have the new
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 14:23:29 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: disconnected: mixed reviews??? Message-ID: <b4.a0b25a2.26dab6a1@aol.com>
>< Mixed reviews for disconnected???
Well, I've only heard glowing reviews, though I'm sure that some bad ones are floating around out there. If it'll sway you, though, throw me in the corner of one more glowing review. It's more aggressive than APSoG, but I think it sustains the mood that APSoG captured. And Still Remains is going to go down as an all-time prog classic, along with songs like Metropolis, Natural Science, Heart of the Sunrise, etc. ><
Well here's a bad review: the first and last songs are boring and pointless; So is like a long, repetitive Engine song; Pieces of Me may possibly the worst Fates song ever; Something From Nothing is `nothing` special; and Still Remains has it's moments but fails to deliver. Also, it's way too short. The first and last track are barely even songs, which leaves 5 songs on the whole album. The only good thing is the song One, which is awesome and almost makes the album worth getting. Of course, this just my *opinion.* But it should also be yours. =)
I've seen a lot of mixed reviews myself, although more positive ones than negative. I just can't get into it at all.
- jim
np: disconnected
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:31:19 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Atreides?= <muaddib_of_arrakis@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Why cancelled??????? Message-ID: <20000827183119.13460.qmail@web3201.mail.yahoo.com>
Why did Dream Theater cancel the concerts in Turkey?? Are they afraid of the earthquakes??? If so why did they fisrtly say that there will be concerts in Turkey??? Earthquakes cannot be the reason...whats the real reason?????? they say nothing about it...I mailed them and they didnt answer it too!!!!! what the hell is going on???
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 12:12:52 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: disconnected: mixed reviews??? Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000827120027.00ae22f0@pop.earthlink.net>
At 11:30 AM 8/27/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Well here's a bad review: the first and last songs are boring and pointless; No way... Who says that the first and last tracks are meant to be "songs" in the traditional sense anyway? disconnected part one is just the intro to the album, sets up mood for the main theme (of being disconnected). And part two closes out the album with an ambient/piano based resolution (or partially positive glimmer of hope) to the rest of the album (especially Still Remains). You can get the full text of the spoken dialogue and its origins from Island in the Stream: http://www.ivorygate.com/fw/a_d.htm
>Still Remains has it's moments but fails to deliver. Fails to deliver what exactly?
>Also, it's way too short. The first and last track are barely even songs, >which leaves 5 songs on the whole album. I'd agree with you that the album is a little short... Of course we are getting spoiled by bands like DT who pack 70+ minutes onto their CDs. ;-)
~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:42:41 -0700 From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Progrock.com Message-ID: <FFD103BA5AB74D11DA5E00807CFD5BDB@robpociluk.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
Not sure if this has been mentioned but the coolest site in the net is Progrock.com where Dream Theater is played constantly. Please check it out: http://www.progrock.com
Looks like I may DJ for them and write some reviews. :)
Rob
"...so I've got that going for me...which is nice."---Carl the assistant greenskeeper Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ____________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-Based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:48:14 -0400 From: Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Magna Carta, Spock's Beard, DT video Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000827204814.01151e38@gwis.com>
Hi, folks:
The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at <http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm>. Meanwhile, here are a couple excerpts some of you may enjoy.
Coming in September from Magna Carta <http://www.artist-shop.com/magna> Steve Walsh/Glossolalia Steve Walsh of Kansas has put the kind of work into Glossolalia rarely seen since the elaborate progressive cathedrals of the 70's. But the sound is decidedly modern. Whals educating himself in digital techniques, Protools, mp3's, you name it, working up the whole record on hard disc, e-mailing files back and forth with king of the new progressive, Trent Garnder, and then assembling a crack band of old friends and new ones to breath life into these mature works. Along with Trent on keyboards, Billy Greer (bass) and Mike Slamer (guitar) are back from Steve's vastly under-rated Streets project, and one of rock's scariest new drum technicians, Australian Virgil Donati, last seen rewriting the percussive texts with Derek Sherinian and Planet X, is heard replaing and/or cooking alongside Steve's adeptly applied electronic rhythms. soundbite <http://www.artist-shop.com/magna/gloss.ram>
Available Now from Magna Carta Bozzio Levin Stevens/Situation Dangerous With the success of their debut release, Black Light Syndrome, Magna Carta was not going to let that be the only statement from this trio of Terry Bozzio, Tony Levin and Steve Stevens! It also marked the beginning of a new and more musically challenging era for Magna Carta. Coming soon is Bozzio Levin Stevens second release, Situation Dangerous! soundbite <http://www.artist-shop.com/magna/danger.ram>
Coming Soon from Radiant Records <http://www.artist-shop.com/radiant> Spock's Beard/V Spock's Beard/V (limited edition digipak) The new Spock's Beard album, V, leans more towards a traditional progressive rock feel. Neal was inspired to write more complicated material after the Transatlantic experience and recent listenings to Genesis' Three Sides Live. The album include a 15 and a 25-minute epic as well as shorter straight-forward songs and a sequel to 1997's Gentle Giant-tinged "Thoughts." The Special Edition, available August 29, includes a 32-page booklet and CD-ROM footage of the band in the studio.
Also, you might want to check out our Overstock Sale page <http://www.artist-shop.com/sale.htm>. I managed to get hold of a few copies (five to be precise) of the Japanese DT video, Images and Words Live in Tokyo, at a pretty good price. Normally it's priced close to $40. However, I have these available for $15.
Also, for those who've yet to check out Artist Shop Radio <http://www.artist-shop.com/radio>, I definitely recommend it. We've had a few more artists join the ranks of Artist Shop Radio music directors since I first opened it up to the public. One of those happens to be Kevin Moore (much thanks to his webmaster, Mark Bredius, for making that possible). So I hope you'll all check it out.
Gary
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 15:00:55 -0600 From: "Larry Odneal" <ldo7@home.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: PMU Hamlet quote Message-ID: <002401c01069$e49ed980$8367b218@aurora1.co.home.com>
Hey 'jammers,
Thought I'd write in to tell you what those 12 songs are on the Gregg Bissonette song "Frankenstein" - j/k
Actually, I wanted to add a little trivia about the Hamlet quote in PMU. Let's make it into a question:
In what rock movie did the quote "Oh that this too, too solid flesh would melt" appear, and what famous rock musician said it?
First one to reply with the correct answer wins seven hundred tickets to the DT show in Turkey!
Latez,
Larry
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 19:17:14 -0700 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: Dream Theater mailing list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: just got mine Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000827191409.00a2b140@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
OK, jammers.
Just got my tickets for the 30th at roseland. I will be going with my ... um ... well, to make it easy, girlfriend. (don't ask). I am looking to meet up with all of you nuts, so I am sending out a post. I cannot fid you, due to my total blindness, (anybody who knows the jam for a few years should know me), so I am going to have to have you all find me. I do not know what I will be wearing, probably my work clothes, since I am coming straight from work, but look for a red and white cane, and somebody about 5 foot 8 with short brown hair, and a 5 foot 8 strawberry blonde permanntly attached to my hip. (she loves me, what can I say?) and be nice, I actually got the once DT-despiser to totally love SFAM, so we can't go off on her too much, now, can we? Anyway, email me if you are going and let's find a place to connect. know some of you old schoolers have to begoing, right d-man? Come on, guys, where are you? Hell, i am not eggig for a ride this time, just some fellow jammrs to chill with. Email me if you care.
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 19:23:25 -0400 From: david Heliotis <wiggin@nac.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Roseland Ballroom Show Message-ID: <200008272332.QAA24367@fugazi.torchsong.com>
Hello...
Well, my friends and I cannot wait to go this show, as it will be= our first show where we get to see all of DT. I probably can't get straight answers on these questions, but I'll ask them anyway.
First, what time would you recommend arriving to the venue to get= a decent place? I don't know how early people will show, so i just= figured i'd ask this (hopefully without an ensuing controversy).
Secondly, what time do you *think* the show will end? We're commuting by train to see the show, and the last train we can= take out of the city is 11.42 pm. We can arrange for a car ride back= if necessary, i just wanted to get estimates on when the show will= end.
Thanks jammers, david --- aim: thanostone | icq: 4727603 |= http://www.users.nac.net/wiggin/
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