YTSEJAM digest 5271

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Tue Jan 18 2000 - 19:16:10 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: german lesson part III
     by "Kenn" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu>
      2) Angra Acoustic Set?
     by "Charlie_Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
      3) A NOTE ON THE TILES WEBSITE SAYS....
     by "Charlie_Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
      4) Oh god...
     by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@indiana.edu>
      5) Re: DT in Philly
     by "Dave Neff" <nerf1@erols.com>
      6) Re: DT in Philly
     by Fett2002@aol.com
      7) Re: Indianapolis
     by Fett2002@aol.com
      8) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5270
     by "Mark C. Healey" <mchealey@qserve.net>
      9) DT in Denver Feb. 9th
     by "Larry Odneal" <ldo1@prodigy.net>
     10) Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Chicago - anyone going?
     by Thomas <tommer@execpc.com>
     11) last DT-headliningshow summer 98?
     by Volker Stephan <stephav@uni-muenster.de>
     12) Fates Warning DVD $5! (plus shipping)
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
     13) Deserto Lunar and Singalong
     by "Anton Berglin" <con_carnage@hotmail.com>
     14) RE: Atlanta DT gig and get-together
     by "StickS" <sticks707@sumter.net>
     15) You think Indy has it bad...
     by "David Ware" <d.ware@rpc-corby.co.uk>
     16) Re: Tori taking it in the Amos...
     by BloodMystX@aol.com
     17) John Myung Interview finally online.
     by Bart Maurissen <Bart@bausch.be>
     18) DT in Philly
     by Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu>
     19) Re: Fates Warning DVD $5! (plus shipping)
     by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
     20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5270
     by "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com>
     21) Re: Girl moaning in 'Home'
     by Martin <newmln@yahoo.com>
     22) Racer X..Anyone????
     by Jack & Vicki Hughes <jgh4@mindspring.com>
     23) Re: DT Tour, and Yes Fans
     by MTeiper@aol.com
     24) Mpls DT halls
     by MentalHunk@aol.com
     25) Home moans
     by MentalHunk@aol.com
     26) 2nd Palace Theater Show (2/5)
     by "M. Emerson" <cthulhu@CYBERNEX.NET>
     27) Re: DT in Philly
     by "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org>
     28) Kraut Throat
     by DTGirl2612@aol.com
     29) Grammar war? Why, I'd love to!
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
     30) DT in LA
     by Mark Shadburn <mws@penfieldsmith.com>
     31) Re: Grammar war? Why, I'd love to!
     by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
     32) Re: Re: DT Tour, and Yes Fans
     by "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com>

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:18:07 -0500
    From: "Kenn" <k_demell@oz.plymouth.edu>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: german lesson part III
    Message-ID: <000701bf616b$06eaa860$efc4fbcf@oemcomputer>

    For a quick rule of thumb in german:
    ach, och =deep throat hairball sound (acht, hochdeutsch)
    ech, ich = shallow, "human" sound, (Zurich, echt{meaning really?}) I
    personally don't like that analogy though, but I can't think of a better
    one. There really isn't a good example of this in english. I am nearly
    fluent in german, and have been harassed by several german teachers on
    pronunciation, just be happy this is a fun mailing list and not a dictation
    on an exam:)

    ----- Original Message -----

    >
    > Andrew Coutermarsh wrote:
    > Korg Ecksthrey wrote:
    > > To pronounce the german 'consanant' ch, you have to make a sound like
    > > you're hacking up a hairball. It's like a really deep 'h' sound with
    > > chunk.
    >
    > Actually, in strict terms, it's not a back-throat consonant at all
    > (thank
    > you diction for singers class). I mean, different dialects do it
    > different ways, but in Hoch Deutsche, ch is a fronted consonant, and
    > the
    > best way I've ever been able to compare it to the English language is
    > the
    > exact same sound you make at the beginning of the word "human."
    >
    > Actually, in strict terms, youre both right. ch is pronounced
    > differently,
    > depending on the word its in. for example the number eight, acht, has
    > that
    > hairball-hacking-throught sound, while the pronoun I, ich, has the soft
    > h-chy sound. in "hochdeutsch". yes. musical content no.
    >
    > ~kafkaesk
    >
    > NP: Like Minds- Burton, Corea, Metheny, Haynes, Holland- not bad,
    > really. :)
    >

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:34:20 -0000
    From: "Charlie_Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>, <Zack1183@aol.com>
    Subject: Angra Acoustic Set?
    Message-ID: <01d201bf616d$4afbaac0$d591bc3e@farrell>

    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:13:29 EST
    ]From: Zack1183@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Angra Acoustic Set?

    >I just picked up Angra's "Freedom Call" EP and the stuff from
    >the Acoustic show sounds really cool. Does anyone have a
    >bootleg of this concert anywhere?

    ????? What does the acoustic show have to do with the Freedom
    Call EP? On the acoustic side, there are the 3 numbers that they
    recorded at the FNAC store in Paris, which appeared as a bonus
    CD with some editions of Holy Land in France. These numbers
    also appear on the 'Acoustic and More' CD which was issued by
    Lucretia Records in Italy and which also contains the contents of
    the 'Evil Warning' EP. This also came as part of the special edition
    'Holy Box'. Freedom Call was issued as a separate EP and also
    in a double CD set with one of the other CDs (can't remember
    which one right now).

    There is an acoustic bootleg recorded in Argentina which is not
    bad. Sorry, but I don't have the means to make you a copy
    of it.

    >On a similar Angra note, what are they up to these days?

    Well they played the last gigs of the Fireworld tour in Brazil
    last september. They are supposed to be taking a break, but
    Andre has a solo disk to work on. I don't think that their next
    CD is expected until late 2000/early 2001

    Charlie

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:39:21 -0000
    From: "Charlie_Farrell" <Charlie_Farrell@email.msn.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>, "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
    Subject: A NOTE ON THE TILES WEBSITE SAYS....
    Message-ID: <01dd01bf616d$fefa2880$d591bc3e@farrell>

    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:55:08 PST
    ]From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: A NOTE ON THE TILES WEBSITE SAYS....

    >anyway, Tiles having just got back from the DT euro tour are
    >apparently considering doing a limited edition style CD of tracks
    >from those shows if there is interest in such a project.

    Well I hope they have some recordings that weren't affected
    by sound problems. They had a much poorer sound that DT
    at both shows I saw which messed up more than the odd
    song. I wasn't impressed.

    However since then I've heard a bit more of 'Presents of
    Mind' and I'm slowly coming round to them. I do wish that
    they 'projected' a bit more on stage.

    Charlie

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:37:42 -0800
    From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@indiana.edu>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Oh god...
    Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000117233742.007b2cf0@imap.indiana.edu>

    >From: Dale R Newberry <schnapster@juno.com>

    >Hey, I plan on being at the Chicago show on Feb. 13. If anyone wants to
    >hook up or anything, e-mail me and let me know.

    Sure thing dude - I'll bring the lube...

    ;)

    Jon
    jkretsch@indiana.edu

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    Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:49:19 -0500
    From: "Dave Neff" <nerf1@erols.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: DT in Philly
    Message-ID: <000701bf616f$84d0be00$098dfea9@oemcomputer>

    > Well how about the Tower Theater? The place IS made for music.
    Short and sweet, the EF has beer. :)
    - Dave

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:57:11 EST
    From: Fett2002@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: DT in Philly
    Message-ID: <18.68f1a4.25b55ab7@aol.com>

    >Well how about the Tower Theater? The place IS made for music. Also there
    ARE >seats for people to sit. It holds about the same amount of people as
    the Electric >Factory.

    I forgot about the Tower. For some reason I have never been there even though
    I've seen like 30 or 40 concerts. The only band I was ever going to see there
    was Extreme but they wound up canceling on the night of the show due to Gary
    Cherone's voice problems! Yeah, I guess the seating capcity is about the
    same. Maybe it's just mpre expensive to play than the electric factory? I
    dunno. It's weird but I never hear of any hard rock/metal bands playing there
    at all anymore. Maybe they just don't book those kinds of shows there
    anymore? Well, I guess I'm the only one that doesn't mind the electric
    factory. And the ventalation was fine the last time I went there, which was
    Megadeth in November. All the side doros were left open.If thats not enough
    ventalation then I don't know what is! At any rate, I can't wait to see them.
    I'm curious as to how many songs they will do before breaking into SFAM. I
    assume they'll do Metropolis pt. 1 as well.
                                            -Mike C.

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:01:49 EST
    From: Fett2002@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Indianapolis
    Message-ID: <d8.d6765a.25b55bcd@aol.com>

    >>From: Fett2002@aol.com
    >>Does anybody know why DT doesn't or won't come to Indianapolis?

    >Jon
    >jkretsch@indiana.edu

    I have been misquoted here. I wasn't the one who posed this question. I just
    gave an answer to it. No biggie or anything but just letting ya know it
    wasn't ME who asked the question. :)
                        -Mike C.

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:06:07 -0500
    From: "Mark C. Healey" <mchealey@qserve.net>
    To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 5270
    Message-ID: <01BF6150.3A7CD240.mchealey@qserve.net>

    Jeez guys - stop your whining. Why don't you just drive to one of their
    shows in Chicago or Ohio like the rest of us in Indiana? It isn't that far
    - You should be used to having to drive 3 hours to get anywhere anyway. I
    lived in San Diego and would routinely drive up to LA to see DT. One time
    I even flew to Northern CA to see them. So a three hour drive to Chicago,
    or *gasp* a two hour drive to Cinncinati is NOT something to complain
    about.

    Hell at least they are playing in our country. :)

    Jon
    jkretsch@indiana.edu

            I'm not complaining for me, I'm making a point, if you would read a little
    deeper, for those who CANNOT drive to thesplaces or stay out that late.
     Duh?!!

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:09:07 -0700
    From: "Larry Odneal" <ldo1@prodigy.net>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: DT in Denver Feb. 9th
    Message-ID: <000d01bf618b$4c9bf1a0$1ff8fed1@larryodn>

    Woohoo! I just got my tickets for the Feb. 9th show at the Fillmore here in
    Denver. I know there are some jammers in the area - any of you guys going?
    It might be fun to hook up before the show. Lemme know,

    Larry

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:37:52 -0600
    From: Thomas <tommer@execpc.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Chicago - anyone going?
    Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000118023752.007a2730@mail.execpc.com>

    Just wanted to let you all know that a friend and I will be at all 3 of
    these shows...should be a kick ass 3 day weekend! huh huh

    E-mail me privately if anyone wants to meet up as a group before the show(s)!

    -Tom

    NP: Explorer's Club - "Age of Impact"

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:10:00 +0100
    From: Volker Stephan <stephav@uni-muenster.de>
    To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: last DT-headliningshow summer 98?
    Message-ID: <01BF61AA.14796D60.stephav@uni-muenster.de>

    does anyone know, if DT made a last headlining show in august 98 before supporting Deep Purple together with ELP?
    Was it Hampton Beach, Aug. 4th, Casino Ballroom, and did the Purple-gigs begin two days later in Holmdel?
    there are certain rumors about a *Casino Ballroom*-boot, which I can't verify.
    can anyone help, as well in matters of recordings of that DP/ELP/DT-tour?
    thanx
    Volker
    stephav@uni-muenster.de

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:51:58 -0800
    From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
    To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Fates Warning DVD $5! (plus shipping)
    Message-ID: <E04FDFCFDC87D21194D300A0C9D4BAFA01CB54A7@ms.kallback.com>

    http://www.stormloader.com/deardeer/
    go here get $10 off coupon at cdnow.
    They have lots more coupons too!

    Trevor saves a lot of money.

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:03:50 GMT
    From: "Anton Berglin" <con_carnage@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Deserto Lunar and Singalong
    Message-ID: <20000118110350.2749.qmail@hotmail.com>

    >>NP: Sigma 5 - The Mirror (sort of cool :)
    >Haven't you heard "Deserto Lunar" ? THAT is cool :).
    Now I have. :) It was ok, but I think I would've liked it more if I could
    understand what the heck he was singing. At least he sung a lot better in
    his native language than in english :) worth checking if you feel like it.

    On another note, has anyone else noticed a much higher singalongability on
    SFaM than on any other DT album? I learned the lyrics at once just by
    listening and can't help singing along all the time. I haven't done that
    with any other DT album.

    Rock on!

    /Anton

    NP: Strange Deja Vu
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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 06:12:34 -0500
    From: "StickS" <sticks707@sumter.net>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: Atlanta DT gig and get-together
    Message-ID: <LPBBLBDOLNLLGJFPJHHDGEEJCAAA.sticks707@sumter.net>

    Yo Paul, I'm in. And since I live closer to Atlanta, it'll be a lot
    easier.

    Curtis "StickS" Toler
    http://frontpage.sumter.net/~sticks707

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:19:32 -0000
    From: "David Ware" <d.ware@rpc-corby.co.uk>
    To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: You think Indy has it bad...
    Message-ID: <000e01bf61a5$e4b92420$1f010032@corbyedp4>

    Hi,

        I live in the small market town of Thrapston in the East Midlands of
    England. We have two pubs, a small church and a parade of shops. Why won't
    Dream Theater come and play here, I've had a word with the Vicar and he said
    that the event could be held in the small church hall, there must be tens of
    people in the surrounding area that would love to come to an evening of
    progressive rock, my brother runs a disco, we could borrow his lights, I
    think he may even have a smoke machine.

        Mike, I know you read the Jam sometimes, please Dream Theater come to
    Thrapston, small market town of Northamptonshire, England...!

        Dave (a UK jammer).

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:11:54 EST
    From: BloodMystX@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Tori taking it in the Amos...
    Message-ID: <e1.457274.25b5dcba@aol.com>

    In a message dated 1/17/00 8:14:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,
    ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

    << Yeah, that's a sample of Tori Amos that Kevin Moore
     had on his keyboard. Mike got a hold of it and made a
     copy. It's Mike's prized collectable in his 'Wall of
     Media'. >>

    Somehow, I don't believe that at all, TB...What was Tori doing? How did it
    get on Moore's sample set? Did Moore and Amos get it done? Details, brother,
    details...;)

    Tony

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:14:30 +0100
    From: Bart Maurissen <Bart@bausch.be>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: John Myung Interview finally online.
    Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000118161430.008d7530@mailer.bausch.be>

    Hi,

    Just wanted to let you know that I finally managed to upload the interview
    with John Myung.
    You can find it at http://www.iad.be/mindview/iviews/Dreamtheater.htm

    Take care,

    Bart Maurissen
    Mindview Magazine

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:34:24 -0500 (EST)
    From: Stephen LaMonica <sl080890@mailhost.sju.edu>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: DT in Philly
    Message-ID: <200001181534.KAA05245@polaris.sju.edu.sju.edu>

    Yeah, I am going to the Electric Factory to see DT. Anything is better than
    the TLA :)
    Stephen La Monica.

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:17:17 -0500
    From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Fates Warning DVD $5! (plus shipping)
    Message-ID: <3884A01C.B262F74F@yunque.net>

    Ok..as i understand it, Dt is on a bigger label than FW, yet they
    release a live DVD...and there is no apparent plans for a DT dvd any
    time in the near future... ?

    "Trevor W. Hoit" wrote:

    > http://www.stormloader.com/deardeer/
    > go here get $10 off coupon at cdnow.
    > They have lots more coupons too!
    >
    > Trevor saves a lot of money.

    --
    

    Without love, without truth, there can be no turning back. Without faith, without hope, there can be no peace of mind. Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:43:56 GMT From: "Simon Dodd" <sjdodd80@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Cc: DewDropInn@onelist.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5270 Message-ID: <20000118164356.73251.qmail@hotmail.com>

    <Ytsejam@torchsong.com> a ecrit: > >Subject: Girl moaning in 'Home' > >Do you know who is that woman who moans in the middle > >of 'Home'? > > > >Martin > >Yeah, that's a sample of Tori Amos that Kevin Moore >had on his keyboard. Mike got a hold of it and made a >copy. It's Mike's prized collectable in his 'Wall of >Media'.

    KevMo had Tori Amos on his keyboard? Wow, I know she's not really a heavyweight, but one would expect it to have been safer on a grand piano! Not to mention more comfortable, given all those knobs on the Kurzweil...maybe she likes that though. ;) ;)

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:25:29 -0800 (PST) From: Martin <newmln@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Girl moaning in 'Home' Message-ID: <20000118182529.4986.qmail@web1607.mail.yahoo.com>

    >> >>Do you know who is that woman who moans in the middle >>of 'Home'? >> >>Martin

    >Yeah, that's a sample of Tori Amos that Kevin Moore >had on his keyboard. Mike got a hold of it and made a >copy. It's Mike's prized collectable in his 'Wall of >Media'.

    You're kiddin', don't you? :)

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:40:36 -0500 From: Jack & Vicki Hughes <jgh4@mindspring.com> To: "ytsejam@torchsong.com" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Racer X..Anyone???? Message-ID: <3884B3A4.3C6628E4@mindspring.com>

    Has anyone heard the new RACER X cd "Technical Difficulties"? I've ordered it, but still I wait. If anyone has seen an MP3 site with any of the new MR BIG with Ritchie Kotzen or the new "x", please post me. Also, i'm new to the IRC downloading thang', likewise, if anyone knows the site to hang out and download MP3 files off of ICQ or mIRC, hook me up. "Through nature's inflexible grace..i'm L2L"{:-)><

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:50:49 EST From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DT Tour, and Yes Fans Message-ID: <df.4a3afc.25b61009@aol.com>

    In a message dated 01/16/1970, 10:10:06 PM, Rob Pociluk writes:

    <<While it is true that not all DT fans like Yes, it is probably likely that those fans like Megadeth. Being of the "progmetal" tag, DT has the prog fans, the metal fans and those that are both. I have always been a Yes fan. I'm not ancient either as Matt Teiper can attest. I do love metal, but if forced to choose...prog is first. I have to say that a Yes/DT bill is the ultimate concert. And unlike the "Yes purists" out there, I hope they play "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" because it's YES (cut the Cinema baloney). Yes is Yes. Just because it was a popular song doesn't mean it's not a good song. Trevor wrote good songs. But they have moved on, "The Ladder" is amazing! Enough rambling...

    Rob>>

    Yep, 'tis true. Rob certainly does not have one foot in the grave yet! ;-) (As an interesting aside, Rob and I work on the same floor at the same company. Neither of us knew that the other was a mere few footsteps away until one day when I happened to stroll by his cube, and he had the Awake album cover as his Wondows wallpaper. The rest is history. :-) )

    Rob, I'm not sure if I'm misreading your post or not, but to me it sounds like you're claiming that there are more "metal" fans than "prog" fans in the DT fan base. I'm not so sure about that. I bet that if you polled everyone, it may be split evenly 3 ways: 1/3 with "metal" tastes, 1/3 with "prog" tastes, and 1/3 with overlapping tastes. I know that you are a "prog" guy at heart... I myself am a die-hard "metal" guy at heart that likes straight ahead metal, but also likes challenging (ie. progressive) metal. However, I do like some prog stuff... old Rush is awesome, and I grew up listening to my dad's old Yes albums. Of the ones I've heard, I love the "Classic Yes" compilation, "Close To the Edge", and my favorite "Drama". Mind you, I haven't heard all of their stuff.

    I would love to see a DT/Yes show. I went into the DT/ELP/DP show with an open mind and had a blast. Carl Palmer knocked me on my ass! (I've always been a big DP fan.) So, I have a feeling I'd love a DT/Yes gig too. So long as they play "Starship Troopers" for me. Or maybe "Machine Messiah" and "Close To the Edge" while they're at it too. ;-)

    Ah well. Enough rambling for me...

    Later!! - Matt T.

    NP: Rush "Permanent Waves"

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:55:46 EST From: MentalHunk@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Mpls DT halls Message-ID: <7b.a9d41c.25b61132@aol.com>

    << Is DT playing a better or worse class of halls this time around, or pretty much the same style venues? >>

    In my opinion, a step up as far as Minneapolis goes..... First Avenue is kinda cool, but packed and a lil small.... the State Theatre is Sloped, so more people will see better this time around....its also a "classier" joint, a good place to see a show... (and its not general admission as first avenue was)

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:10:13 EST From: MentalHunk@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Home moans Message-ID: <b.6e1a2c.25b61495@aol.com>

    << Yeah, that's a sample of Tori Amos that Kevin Moore had on his keyboard. Mike got a hold of it and made a copy. It's Mike's prized collectable in his 'Wall of Media'. >>

    Tori's pet name for Kevin was "edward " ? :-) I just noticed the other night, if you listen close, Victoria says "ohhh edward"

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:09:34 -0500 From: "M. Emerson" <cthulhu@CYBERNEX.NET> To: "Ytse Jam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: 2nd Palace Theater Show (2/5) Message-ID: <007901bf61e7$8ee168e0$040310ac@pwcg.com>

    has anyone come across any more info about this show? neither the venue nor ticketbastard seems to know anything about it...

    please let me know ASAP if you have any info...

    mikE emerson

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:14:15 -0500 From: "Scott Sturdivant" <scott@erotomania.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: DT in Philly Message-ID: <004b01bf61f0$97d3d1f0$b2589780@BLARGH>

    > Yeah, I am going to the Electric Factory to see DT. Anything is better than > the TLA :) > Stephen La Monica.

    Blasphemy! The TLA is great! It's so personal and intimate. I'd LOVE to have DT play there again, but alas, they've moved on to bigger venues and no matter how much I like the TLA better, I respect their desire to make more money in a by playing in a bigger, but far worse venue!

    The TLA is great. Learn that :) Heheheh

    Scott.

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:54:30 EST From: DTGirl2612@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Kraut Throat Message-ID: <a9.bf23eb.25b62d06@aol.com>

    Methinks he meant AN uvula hehehehe

    >KorgX3 thinks you meant a uvula. heheheh.

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:11:40 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Grammar war? Why, I'd love to! Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10001181609090.30812-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 DTGirl2612@aol.com wrote:

    > Methinks he meant AN uvula > hehehehe > > >KorgX3 thinks you meant a uvula. heheheh.

    WRONG. :)

    Korg was right, because the word "uvula" starts with a glide ("YOOVyula" is how it's pronounced). In this case, the "why" sound isn't considered a vowel and thus you would NOT say "an uvula" but rather "a uvula."

    ------------------------------------------------- Andrew likes these little grammar wars. :) a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- The average woman would rather have beauty than brains, because the average man can see better than he can think. -------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:39:42 -0800 From: Mark Shadburn <mws@penfieldsmith.com> To: "'Dream Theater Mailing List'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DT in LA Message-ID: <F12BF3FD31B9D11194C4006008E368FA2657BD@COMMSERVER>

    I checked the Ticketmaster web site today and found the Saturday, February 5th show was finally listed. However, when I tried to purchase tickets I was informed that tickets were not yet available.

    I called my local Ticketmaster and they told me that I could buy tickets if I came in.

    When I arrived to purchase tickets, they told me they weren't available, that Ticketmaster would not be selling tickets to that show, and that I would have to contact The Palace Theater directly. (at least they didn't charge me $15.00 for answering questions)

    I called The Palace Theater and was informed that there would not be a Saturday show!!!???

    What's goin' on. Are they holdin' all those tickets to give out at the NAMM show?

    Shad

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:45:23 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Grammar war? Why, I'd love to! Message-ID: <001e01bf620e$22899790$8c0d84d0@default>

    > > Methinks he meant AN uvula > WRONG. :)

    Some people on this list have too much free time. While I've spent the last two days perfecting myself with playing LiTS so that on the off chance when (or if) I'm at the show on the 8th and a stage light falls on John, killing him, I can jump up on the stage and at least prolong the show for one more song. :)

    And YOU guys are wasting your time checking my grammar? Losers! :) -- KorgX3 can't wait (or maybe he can) for the 8th.

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    Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:06:26 -0500 From: "Rob Pociluk" <robpociluk@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Re: DT Tour, and Yes Fans Message-ID: <C4DF0EFE2DDC3D11DA3C0005B813E913@robpociluk.dreamtheater.zzn.com>

    Hey Matt (and everyone else)! I agree that the Jam seems to be fairly evenly split. I do think that there are a slight bit more Metalheads on here than progheads or even the ones that overlap. It's fairly close. I do find it interesting when a metalhead will say that an Iluvatar or a Spock's Beard just aren't heavy enough and then will go on to say that the new album from Anthrax is pretty progressive (and I like Anthrax). It's what makes this list so damn fun. In any case, I did have a point and forgot it.

    Rob

    PS for Matt: I started a new job on Monday, so I'm not there no more! I meant to stop by but never seemed to run into you! ---- Begin Original Message ----

    ]From: MTeiper@aol.com Sent: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:03:55 -0800 (PST) To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: DT Tour, and Yes Fans

    In a message dated 01/16/1970, 10:10:06 PM, Rob Pociluk writes:

    <<While it is true that not all DT fans like Yes, it is probably likely that those fans like Megadeth. =A0Being of the "progmetal" tag, DT has =

    the prog fans, the metal fans and those that are both. =A0I have always=

    been a Yes fan. =A0I'm not ancient either as Matt Teiper can attest. =A0= I do love metal, but if forced to choose...prog is first. =A0I have to say that a Yes/DT bill is the ultimate concert. =A0And unlike the "Yes =

    purists" out there, I hope they play "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" because it's YES (cut the Cinema baloney). =A0Yes is Yes. =A0Just becau= se it was a popular song doesn't mean it's not a good song. =A0Trevor wrote good songs. =A0But they have moved on, "The Ladder" is amazing! =A0=

    Enough rambling...

    Rob>>

    Yep, 'tis true. =A0Rob certainly does not have one foot in the grave yet! =A0;-) =A0 (As an interesting aside, Rob and I work on the same floor at the same company. =A0Neither of us knew that the other was a mere few footsteps =

    away until one day when I happened to stroll by his cube, and he had the Awake album cover as his Wondows wallpaper. =A0The rest is history. =A0:-) =A0= ) =A0

    Rob, I'm not sure if I'm misreading your post or not, but to me it sounds like you're claiming that there are more "metal" fans than "prog" fans in the DT fan base. =A0I'm not so sure about that. =A0I bet that if you polled=

    everyone, it may be split evenly 3 ways: =A01/3 with "metal" tastes, 1/3 with "prog" tastes, and 1/3 with overlapping tastes. =A0I know that you are a "prog" guy at heart... I myself am a die-hard "metal" guy at heart that likes straight ahead metal, but also likes challenging (ie. progressive) metal. =A0However, I do like some prog stuff... old Rush is awesome, and I grew up listening to my dad's old Yes albums. =A0Of the ones I've heard, I love the "Classic Yes" compilation, "Close To the Edge", and my favorite "Drama". =A0Mind you,=

    I haven't heard all of their stuff. =A0

    I would love to see a DT/Yes show. =A0I went into the DT/ELP/DP show with an open mind and had a blast. =A0Carl Palmer knocked me on my ass! =A0(I'v= e always been a big DP fan.) =A0So, I have a feeling I'd love a DT/Yes gig too. =

    =A0So long as they play "Starship Troopers" for me. =A0Or maybe "Machine Messiah" =

    and "Close To the Edge" while they're at it too. =A0;-)

    Ah well. =A0Enough rambling for me... =A0

    Later!! =A0 =A0- Matt T.

    NP: =A0Rush "Permanent Waves" =A0

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