YTSEJAM Digest 5263
Today's Topics:
1) Re: DT Opening For Yes in Summer 2000!!!
by "Nicole R. Stachowicz" <ytsekirby@yahoo.com>
2) Re: Mindcrime grammy
by "Toby Guidry" <strangebrew@mindspring.com>
3) removed from list? What the fuck?
by "Tom Walling" <intoinfinity@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
4) Are they playing with Yes?
by tahcha <tahcha@ccomm.com>
5) DT show in Chicago.
by WoodyTJ34@aol.com
6) Pain of Salvation
by Diablo6491@aol.com
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5261
by "Charlie Hamilton" <charlie@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
8) RE: DT Opening For Yes in Summer 2000!!!
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
9) LIVE "MEMORY" ALBUM?
by "David Landis" <tdlandis@earthlink.net>
10) re: Portnoy's kit...
by "xxx" <hipodilski_@web.bg>
11) DT and YES - NOT.
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
12) cd-r question
by MentalHunk@aol.com
13) Try again - I'm Back....
by "David Ware" <d.ware@rpc-corby.co.uk>
14) Mercyful Fate
by Peter Andersson <pe-and@sectra.se>
15) Classic Rock Magazine
by "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
16) Mullmuzzler
by "Robert O'Doherty" <RODoherty@seagull.nl>
17) HTML, PoS, Gates, and prog samplers (again)
by "M P" <mremann6@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
18) Totally off topic Congratulatory remark
by Giannotti Nick Contr ESC/JS <Nick.Giannotti@hanscom.af.mil>
19) your point is?
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
20) are you ready to.....
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
21) Cure
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
22) When you gotta go, JUST GO!!!!!
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
23) Re: Mullmuzzler
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
24) Re: cd-r question
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
25) Mullmuzzler and the Gathering
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
26) Re: cd-r question
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
27) Ytsejam Archives
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
28) Re: Philosohpy
by Wes Foll <follwes@sc.llu.edu>
29) Next Superior demo up!!
by Superior - Bernd Basmer <superior@free-minded.de>
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:04:52 -0600
From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz" <ytsekirby@yahoo.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: DT Opening For Yes in Summer 2000!!!
Message-ID: <001901bf5b17$77ea9160$0101a8c0@pavilion>
MTeiper@aol.com wrote:
>Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but here's an interesting tidbit
of
>news I just found on JP's Official Site (www.johnpetrucci.com) while
looking
>for any official info on the Ibanez split:
>
>"Dream Theater is the confirmed opener for Yes during the summer of 2000"
According to Mike in a thread at www.mikeportnoy.com :
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/ubb/NonCGI/Forum2/HTML/002478.html
"This is only currently being "discussed", so it is not at all confirmed...
Premature announcement from JP...."
Looks like it's in the works but isn't 100% for sure yet. Although that
would be a cool concert. Hey look, 2 posts from me in 2 days! Dare I think
of being most frequent poster? ;)
-Nicole/Kirby
Nicole Stachowicz
US Coordinator for the Dream Theater International Fan Club
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/usdtifc.html
Kirby on irc.dreamt.org:2112 #ytsejam and #ytseradio
YtseKirby on irc.ram-page.com:6667 #mikechat
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:31:48 -0600
From: "Toby Guidry" <strangebrew@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Mindcrime grammy
Message-ID: <001101bf5b1b$3ac81920$a08b8ad1@mindspring.com>
Fett2002@aol.com wrote:
> Well, I'm the one that originally posted that QR was nominated for
Mindcrime
> and I thought they were but I could be mistaken.
I don't think that they were because I remember AJfA being my favored pick,
and although I really like the album, I wouldn't have picked it over O:M.
> I'm just going on memory
> because at the time I was huge into Mincrime and I did watch the grammys
that
> year. But that was so long ago I can't say for sure. It was a successful
> album though, even before Empire came out as MTV used to show Eyes of a
> Stranger and I Don't Believe in Love a whole lot. I think it may even hit
> platnum before Empire was released.
It didn't. It _is_ the only QR album that can claim gold, though, without
sales being influenced by Empire. It went platinum sometime in '91 after
Empire was released. www.riaa.com has all of the specifics.
> As far asthe grammy nominations though,
> maybe there's somewhere on the net that keeps track of these things?
That would be useful info.
L8r,
Toby
NP:
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:44:52 -0600
From: "Tom Walling" <intoinfinity@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: removed from list? What the fuck?
Message-ID: <761DB7E5FB6C3D11DA4C0005B8E831CD@intoinfinity.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 22:28:13 -0500
Long time reader, first post. All I want to know if anyone has
Marc likes cog!!!!!!!!
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:22:26 EST
Hey,
"I sit down with my son, set to see the Crimson Sunset"
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:53:49 EST
In a message dated 1/9/00 9:53:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
<< Hmmm,
No way man. I TOTALLY agree with you. Entropia is more adventrous in my
RaY
-Daddy . . . I miss you soo . . . -
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:44:39 -0500
<html><head><meta Name='keywords' Content='commtouch, pronto, mail, free email, free, branded, web based, free web based email, communications, internet, software, advertising banners, e-mail, free software'></head><body ><div align='left'><font ><blockquote><blockquote><TT>>>>anyone recall Mike was originally a Tama endorser<BR>
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:01:23 +0100
Matt T. wrote:
> Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but here's an
According to Mike Portnoy, this is currently being
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/ubb/NonCGI/Forum2/HTML/002478.html
Mark Bredius
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:31:17 -0600
Hey, Long time reader, first time poster. Now that DT has released a
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:37:28 +0200
Actually Mike's first kit was an Imperialstar (which still is my favourite
Cheers,
Victor
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:20:28 +0100
>"Dream Theater is the confirmed opener for Yes during the summer of 2000"
There is one word definitely wrong here: confirmed. There is a
Steffen
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 04:17:55 EST
From: MentalHunk@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: cd-r question
Message-ID: <89.8974ab08.25aafdc3@aol.com>
hello....
could someone direct me to the cd-r faq url ?
I'm a first time user of a cd-burner, and I can't seem to get rid of that 1 or two second delay between tracks...how do I do this ? I'm using adaptec's easy cd creator software,I tried writing at 1x speed, but its still there....any privately sent e-mail help will be greatly appreciated....thanks
tom
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:49:14 -0000
From: "David Ware" <d.ware@rpc-corby.co.uk>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Try again - I'm Back....
Message-ID: <001601bf5b4f$f47deaa0$1f010032@corbyedp4>
Guys,
I'm back, actually I've been back for the best part of a week but I've
had trouble getting my messages through (I think I've been having some MIME
troubles). I have left sunny Alabama and am now in rather colder than I
remember England. But I'm very happy about it.
There was talk of DT supporting Yes, presumably this is a State Side
tour. If you get a chance - go and see these gigs, Yes will blow you away,
and DT opening is a complete dream...! I wonder what sort of set they'll
do, I'm not sure that the really heavy stuff will come across too well with
a Yes audience.
Laters,
Dave (a UK jammer).
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:31:18 +0100
From: Peter Andersson <pe-and@sectra.se>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Mercyful Fate
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000110113118.00901370@desmond.sectra.se>
>Speaking of Mercyful Fate, I' don't own any of their albums but I've been
>meaning to pick up "Melissa." Just wondering if their are any Mercyful Fate
>fans out there and what albums they could recommend me getting. Thanks!
> -Mike C.
Melissa is a great album, Don't Break The Oath is another. Also check out
King Diamond's Abigail, Them and Conspiracy if you like the MF albums.
/Peter
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:08:30 +0100
From: "Vandenabeele, Hein" <Hein.Vandenabeele@um.be>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Classic Rock Magazine
Message-ID: <F999CB08F9C7D21195E30008C70D3506CC46E7@julia.um.be>
Somebody wrote:
>In Classic Rock magazine's annual readers' poll, Scenes From A Memory has
>been voted as the best album of 1999, with Dream Theater the second-best
>band (behind Metallica). And in the "Best album of the decade" poll, I&W
>is at #11 and SFAM is at #17.
The fact that they put Metallica at #1 puts the whole thing in perspective,
IMHO. Not that they are wrong about the DT stuff, I just mean, putting M at
number one...
Would be interesting to see the rest of the list !
HeinV
NP. SG Carved In Stone
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:25:43 +0100
From: "Robert O'Doherty" <RODoherty@seagull.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <Ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Mullmuzzler
Message-ID: <CBC8507A9BB1D011824700A0C92C7417FDA75E@ns0007.seagull.nl>
I was really looking forward my first listen to Mullmuzzler when it arrived
last month ... but I'm not overly impressed with it. The Shadow Gallery
(co-)written songs stand out a mile as do the Trent Gardener ones (whose
style I've always f^*kin hated). As always Carl Cadden-James and Allman
deliver some nice melodic elements coupled with some desparately cheesy
clichees. BUT, I do like 'His Voice' and 'Statued'.
I guess I would have got on alot better with the album if the Shadow Gallery
and Trent Gardner influences weren't so blindingly obvious.
IMHO, this album is worth picking up but it does come off as a collection of
(some pretty good) songs which were handed to James to sing. I hope
Mullmuzzler record another CD with alot more influence from James and the
band.
Rob.
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:16:16 -0500
From: "M P" <mremann6@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: HTML, PoS, Gates, and prog samplers (again)
Message-ID: <E1ADF0BC1A6C3D11DA8C0005B8E83109@mremann6.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
<html><head><meta Name='keywords' Content='commtouch, pronto, mail, free email, free, branded, web based, free web based email, communications, internet, software, advertising banners, e-mail, free software'></head><body ><div align='left'><font ><blockquote><blockquote><TT>From: Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@mindstorm.com><BR>
Subject: Look what the cat dragged in ....<BR>
<BR>
>Second, anyone using dreamtheater.zzn.com, PLEASE turn off HTML<BR>
<BR>
that'd be us. Weren't aware it was in our power to fix it until<BR>
yesterday. Sorry for all the spam... it wasn't pissing just you<BR>
guys off. ;) - D/J<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Subject: Pain of Salvation<BR>
>Well it appears I'm the only one who thinks Entropia mops the<BR>
>floor with One Hour By The Concrete Lake. <BR>
<BR>
not true. the opinion is shared here.<BR>
<BR>
> For example, listen to the rhythms in track 6.<BR>
<BR>
Stress kicks ass ;) the song, anyway<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Subject: mastering<BR>
Message-ID: <v04220802b49ea055b8e8@[192.168.1.1]><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
>Relayer--Incredible album, lousy sound.<BR>
<BR>
On that note... anyone have an accurate score TGoD?<BR>
<BR>
And finally, for Mr. Gajic:<BR>
Go to www.progrock.net and follow any/all links under<BR>
vendors/labels. Check for "Various Artists" cds. These<BR>
will include samplers and tribute albums (practically<BR>
the same thing).<BR>
A few others to look for:<BR>
"Supernatural Fairy Tales": on Rhino (who remastered ELP's<BR>
catalogue) has 5 cds with about 40 classic prog bands. This<BR>
is probably the best introduction to old school prog as you<BR>
can get.<BR>
"Progfest" samplers: the annual live event showcases <BR>
mostly newer bands. Typically 2 cds.<BR>
"Space Box": a 3 cd set released by Cleopatra (better<BR>
known for industrial music) of old psychedelic,<BR>
electronic, and space rock.<BR>
"In Search of Space": from Dressed to Kill. Same kind of<BR>
stuff as "Space Box", but less prog.<BR>
<BR>
D/J<BR>
</TT><br><br><br><br><br><br><font><p align=left><br>Dream Theater newsletter - http://www.dreamtheater.net/uacmmail/ ------------------------------
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:05:38 -0500
From: Giannotti Nick Contr ESC/JS <Nick.Giannotti@hanscom.af.mil>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Totally off topic Congratulatory remark
Message-ID: <390762D98D63D2118C280060081358CC01467291@hamsxha2.hanscom.af.mil>
>From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
>Subject: marty etc
>
>Trevor got engaged on New Year's Eve
Me too. Congratulations, Trevor!!
Nicholas Giannotti
Joint STARS Joint Program Office / ESC/JSK
System Resources Corporation (Support Contractor)
email: giannottin@hanscom.af.mil
- When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend.
- If you can't beat your computer at chess... try kickboxing.
- If you and your friend are being chased by a grizzly bear, don't worry
about out-running
the bear. Just worry about out-running your friend.
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 06:09:27 PST
From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Cc: JamesAhab@aol.com
Subject: your point is?
Message-ID: <20000110140927.70242.qmail@hotmail.com>
I wrote:
>>that their (WSJ) vision of prog rock comes from the Pink Floyd
>> >>definition of prog....bands like Radiohead and lately Muse are
>> >>probably the kinds of bands they're thinking of as being prog (if >>not
>>Phish or Ben FOlds Five (who I've seen described as progressive >>before,
>>go figure)), rather than the Yes/Genesis/Rush/DT side of
>>things.
and then Jim wrote:
>Those bands are progressive. There's more to progressiveness than >what we
>here in DT and Rush. Like you don't *have* to use keyboards >or have a
>high-pitched vocalist.
what's your point? I don't see where I claimed Pink Floyd/
Radiohead/Muse as not being prog, and I'll even give you Phish.....are you
going to try and convince me that Ben Folds Five is progressive? I'm
listening, just tell me where to find some sound clips on the net, because
the stuff (however limited) I've heard from that band so far doesn't fit
that description.
Partha
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 06:14:57 PST
From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: are you ready to.....
Message-ID: <20000110141457.35877.qmail@hotmail.com>
pay $50 to see DT?
>"Dream Theater is the confirmed opener for Yes during the summer of >
>2000"
I would have seen Yes in concert by now, but for the fact that I'm not
willing to pay $50 for the privilege. Maybe if they're not playing some high
class venue in Detroit like the Fox Theatre, the price will be less, and
I'll consider going, but for me, personally, a ticket price like that is
insane, even with two of my favorite bands performing.
i'd love to hear your thoughts....I know there are folks among us who pay no
attention to the costs of seeing DT or other prog metal acts, witness the
road trips and intercontinental trips described here recently, but I'm
willing to bet the majority of people on this list are somewhat closer to my
position.
Fire away
Partha
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:39:08 +0100
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Cure
Message-ID: <3879E0FC.EFB3CEE@mol.com.mk>
> From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
>
> For a real emotional song, put on The Cure's
> "The Same Deep Water As You".
No way! :) A Cure fan? Woohoo. ;)
Disintegration is a true masterpiece album!
> From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
>
> np: Ravi Shankar - Raga Mala (sitar concerto #2)
Yo, is that from the symphony orchestra album with Zubin Metha?
> p.s. I really hope Jerry Goodman sits in for part of DT's
> set. Imagine DT meets Mahavishnu! Yikes!!!
Is the guy alive still? :) Where the hell is he? That man rules.
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:44:39 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: When you gotta go, JUST GO!!!!!
Message-ID: <3879FE67.66AA4D49@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Jorrit Godeke whined on his way out the door:
> Well, I really tried... but I still can't bring myself to read thru all
> of this mumbo jumbo of wich you guys are still convinced it is a DT
> mailinglist.
Thanks for you contributions as well. Someone refresh my memory, what
was his DTC co-efficient? :P
> I think I'll try the Mirror or something.
See ya, hate ta be ya :)
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:04:13 +0200
From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Mullmuzzler
Message-ID: <387A02FD.5BF6A49@yahoo.com>
Robert O'Doherty wrote:
>
> IMHO, this album is worth picking up but it does come off as a collection of
> (some pretty good) songs which were handed to James to sing. I hope
> Mullmuzzler record another CD with alot more influence from James and the
> band.
>
Well, I don't think they ever meant it to have influences from the band (except
for Matt maybe, since he wrote a couple of songs). As from James, I cannot say,
but this is what I understood from all the interviews and stuff...
But you're right about that thing that they should do another record. The
line-up is wonderful and I'd believe they could be doing all by themselves, for
I hear Keneally is said to be a true genious and to me Matt is too...
--
Janne Jokitalo
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:07:13 +0200
From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: cd-r question
Message-ID: <387A03B1.7D52BF50@yahoo.com>
MentalHunk@aol.com wrote:
>
> hello....
>
> could someone direct me to the cd-r faq url ?
> I'm a first time user of a cd-burner, and I can't seem to get rid of that 1 or two second delay between tracks...how do I do this ? I'm using adaptec's easy cd creator software,I tried writing at 1x speed, but its still there....any privately sent e-mail help will be greatly appreciated....thanks
>
> tom
Sorry, don't know the URL, but I've always used Easy CD Creator with
Disc-at-once - option (if possible, of course), and I haven't noticed any gaps.
But I'm really not a veteran user, so what do I know ;-)
--
Janne Jokitalo
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:02:55 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Mullmuzzler and the Gathering
Message-ID: <002a01bf5b8c$9c77a8e0$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
>I was really looking forward my first listen to Mullmuzzler when it arrived
>last month ... but I'm not overly impressed with it. The Shadow Gallery
Which reminds me, between being worked to the point of insomnia and my own
sullen inteptitude, that I'd never posts the links to those song here. :P
There are two Mullmuzzler and two The Gathering songs for you guys to check
out. :)
http://www.safelink.net/washburn/mullmuzzler-sacrifice.mp3
http://www.safelink.net/washburn/mullmuzzler-his_voice.mp3
http://www.safelink.net/washburn/gathering-confusion.mp3
http://www.safelink.net/washburn/gathering-nighttime_birds.mp3
And that ought to do it. :) Also, in a strange twist of fate, I was
watching some Backstreet Boys thingamajig in MTV last weekend (hey, fuck
off, they're not that bad :) and they had a little side interview with a
band called Temugin (I think). VERY much like the Gathering. I was like,
"shit, something very good on MTV!" The singer is very good (quite on par
with Anneke, imo) and they're one of the few (if only) bands with a deaf
audience. The singer signs everything she sings. Pretty weird. Anyway...
--
KorgX3 finally got it done for you. :P
NP: Marillion - Clutching at Straws
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:08:35 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: cd-r question
Message-ID: <003b01bf5b8d$568471a0$0201010a@meserver.meserver.com>
>Sorry, don't know the URL, but I've always used Easy CD Creator with
>Disc-at-once - option (if possible, of course), and I haven't noticed any
>But I'm really not a veteran user, so what do I know ;-)
Yup. With EZ CD Creator, when you click the record button, you just find
the little box that asks, "Disk-at-once recording" and hit it. It takes all
of those two second skips out. If you do this though, you can't add
anything to the disk later, so get everything you want in from the start.
The Disk at once option only appears in the full version though (I think).
It should be located in the same dialog box as the "write to disk and leave
session open" "write to disk and close session" toggles.
--
KorgX3 loves making his own CD's.
NP: Same ass thing.
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:05:19 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Ytsejam Archives
Message-ID: <387A114F.9DF37D14@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Ryan wrote:
> Just a reminder, you can get copies of all of the back issues of the
> jam at:
>
> ftp://ftp.dreamt.org/pub/ytsejam/
>
> I seperated them out recently, so it should be a little easier to
> download the list of jams now.
Thanks for that, Ryan!! Using a browser, the directory loads orders of
magnitude quicker now.
It's weird going back to the first few jams in the archive and checking
out the cast of characters that posted: Ptacek tearing Damon a new
orifice, Rick Terry's humor, Marcel with a sig file larger than Arash's
:), Geo signing his name George Sumschidt, D-man's signature file, Bafu
engineering EOJ's like Germans engineer cars, Korg -> the sensitive,
serious years :), and on and on and on.....
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:10:05 -0800
From: Wes Foll <follwes@sc.llu.edu>
To: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>, ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Philosohpy
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000110100757.0097b120@sc.llu.edu>
At 03:59 PM 1/10/2000 +0000, Wes Foll wrote:
> >
> > Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 16:19:29 -0800
> > From: Wes Foll <follwes@sc.llu.edu>
>
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an
> > endangered plant?
Then Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> replied:
>Pre-inject the plant with DNA which selects for the rapid
>re-introduction of both species into the bio-poofter :)
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Zappa :)
So what I hear ya saying is: ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny in a
roudabout sort of way. 8-)
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What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an
endangered plant?
Wesley Foll, Geology B.S., Loma Linda University
follwes@sc.llu.edu
wfoll00g@ns.llu.edu
beavis@ytseradio.com
ICQ #4550740
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:26:42 +0100
From: Superior - Bernd Basmer <superior@free-minded.de>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Next Superior demo up!!
Message-ID: <4.1.20000110202604.00921ec0@pop.btx.dtag.de>
Hi!
The 4th Superior demo is up on our site!!
Have a look!
Feedback is more than welcome!
Greetings
Bernd
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Bernd Basmer
Guitar - Superior
For info about Superior look at http://www.free-minded.de/
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If you're good you solve your problems.
If you're better you have none.
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I'm just wondering why I was automatically removed from the list <BR>
after years of membership. Any ideas? fuck it- I'm back on board <BR>
(at least temporarily. ;) )<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Tom<BR>
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From: tahcha <tahcha@ccomm.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Are they playing with Yes?
Message-ID: <387951CD.AF1A6C77@ccomm.com>
any info on DT opening for Yes and where?
From: WoodyTJ34@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: DT show in Chicago.
Message-ID: <55.55e664a1.25aab882@aol.com>
I'll be at the DT show on Feb 13. One of my friends from Indiana is
driving 6 hours up to go with me. I'm so excited. If your going, I'll see
ya there.
See ya,
Todd
From: Diablo6491@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Pain of Salvation
Message-ID: <8c.8c350365.25aabfdd@aol.com>
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
Well it appears I'm the only one who thinks Entropia mops the
floor with One Hour By The Concrete Lake. In fact, if I hadn't known
better, judging by the sound of these albums I would guess Entropia to be
their second release and not their first. It is more technical, the band
takes bigger risks, and I just plan like the melodies more. Entropia also
seems to contain a wider range of styles. There are some sick slap bass
grooves that don't appear on OHbtCL and I think the other lead guitar
player is better on Entropia.
Because it is so wild, I would agree that Entropia is probably a
bit more difficult to get into. But don't give up on it, I think it's
just so out there and whacky that it takes a long time to digest
everything that's going on. For example, listen to the rhythms in track 6.
It blows me away every time. I love both albums and PoS is definitely one
of my new favorite bands. >>
opinion and definantly crazier. I think that it really attacks your ears
from every angle. Should we even talk about the short pieces like Circle
that makes my hair stand on end. So hauntingly beautiful its sick. And
then, the last sentence of this chilling story . . . "If death is but dream
then don't let me . . . fall asleep." Wow. I mean, this is DEEPLY moving
stuff. Daniel Gildenlow should be given major credit for some of the best
lyrics I've ever heard. His writing is phenonmonal, not to mention his
delivery of those lyrics, nothing is choppy at all. Then, we would have to
talk about his overal singing ability which is MONSTER. Oh yea, did we say
that he plays guitar and trades solo's?:>
He does do all of this on OHBtCL, BUT on this CD, I think that its got a
LOT less of a formulaized pattern to it(I said this in a previous post).
Now, dont get me wrong, One Hour is awesome:> But Entropia SMOKES it:>
From: "Charlie Hamilton" <charlie@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5261
Message-ID: <325BF84C3A6C3D11DACD0005B803B365@charlie.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
Umm, I dont know about that one, anyone have verification?<BR>
<BR>
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From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: DT Opening For Yes in Summer 2000!!!
Message-ID: <000801bf5b30$1f76cb20$0100007f@localhost>
> interesting tidbit of news I just found on JP's Official
> Site (www.johnpetrucci.com) while looking for any
> official info on the Ibanez split:
>
> "Dream Theater is the confirmed opener for Yes during the
> summer of 2000"
discussed. It's not confirmed just yet.
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From: "David Landis" <tdlandis@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: LIVE "MEMORY" ALBUM?
Message-ID: <200001100631.WAA25701@penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
fabulous concept album and plan to perform the album in its entirety in
concert, I would think that this will definitely be recorded. Is it possible
that DT will release another Live album? Or maybe they regret releasing a
live album after FII and now they feel that they can't release another one?
Maybe it could be released as a fan club CD for Christmas of 2000? I think
that they have to make this available to their fans in a quality format
instead of through bootlegs! What about a video? CYA- Dave
From: "xxx" <hipodilski_@web.bg>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: re: Portnoy's kit...
Message-ID: <000b01bf5b3d$8d405740$5b818ac3@xxx>
Tama line) and he HAD an endorsment deal at the time, but when he asked Tama
to make him a custom kit, they refused. Then Mapex contacted him and offered
him a custom kit and he went to their camp. I remember pretty well from an
old interview, that Tama told Mike that "The door is still open" and when
they came along with the excellent Starclassic, Mike ran back to them. :)))
The Starclassics are great drums, but I still miss that epic drum sound from
the LiT video (excluding the snare, the new SC snare sound kicks all types
of human body parts).
From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DT and YES - NOT.
Message-ID: <v04220800b49f460df682@[192.168.1.1]>
possibility for DT opening for Yes, but it is not, repeat, NOT
confirmed yet.
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Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com)
THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)