YTSEJAM Digest 5261
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5260
by "T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
2) DTIFC news
by "Nicole R. Stachowicz" <ytsekirby@yahoo.com>
3) Tour Complaints / Huh?
by Mike A Marshall <marshallm@juno.com>
4) SoCal DT fan here
by Wes Foll <follwes@sc.llu.edu>
5) Re: Mercyful Fate
by Fett2002@aol.com
6) Re: Remastering/And Justice For All
by Fett2002@aol.com
7)
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
8) Megadeth in LA
by Bunny1682@aol.com
9) Santana/Emotional songs
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
10) JP & Ibanez
by WhoFooldU@aol.com
11) QR Grammy
by "Matthew McDaniel" <cfiatp@hotmail.com>
12) Re: Minneapolis DT show
by "Lisa" <ytsedragyn@worldnet.att.net>
13) TAMP/Eve
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
14) Re: JP & Ibanez
by Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5260
by Diablo6491@aol.com
16) DT show on the 1st
by Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5260
by DoubleJay54@aol.com
18) Re: JP & Ibanez
by Scott Sturdivant <ss011i@mail.rochester.edu>
19) Re: Emotional
by "Andy Putman" <andyputman@hotmail.com>
20) Prog samplers and the mysteries of YTSEJAM 5260
by "M P" <mremann6@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
21) Re: JP and Ibanez
by Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
22) RE: toto drummer
by "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_Hagstr=F6m?=" <mikael.hagstrom@bracke.mail.telia.com>
23) Re: huh!?!?
by Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
24) Re: Competition within bands
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
25) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5258
by Pywokit@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:36:48 -0800 (PST)
From: "T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5260
Message-ID: <20000108233648.9138.qmail@web2104.mail.yahoo.com>
Check out the 'Monkey Links'
It's a form of Unix, so to speak
>Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000
>From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
>To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
>Subject: huh*&#$*&@
>
>What the hell is this? :)
>http://dreamtheater.net/
>
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:41:06 -0600
From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz" <ytsekirby@yahoo.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: DTIFC news
Message-ID: <008c01bf5a31$d66b0b20$0101a8c0@pavilion>
Hey all,
Sorry I've been delinquent in posting to the 'jam lately. You can send me
my lumps of coal later. ;) Seriously, I've been absolutely swamped with
email and snail mail, not to mention my JOB job, so I haven't really had
time to read the 'jam in the past few weeks.
Damon wrote:
>I asked this question once before. Who is handling the u.s. fan club
>and how do you know when your subscription is up.
Um, that would be me. :) I thought someone had announced it here back in
October, and I know that it was announced both on www.dreamtheater.net and
www.mikeportnoy.com months ago. But I guess word travels slowly these days.
(Speaking of which, my last name is no longer McWatters, and my bird is
still alive and well.) ;)
For existing DTIFC members: you'll know your subscription is up if you
receive a notice with this quarter's fanzine. If you don't receive a
renewal notice, you can probably assume that it's not time to renew yet.
Fanzines and Christmas CDs are being shipped as we speak. They're late due
to a delay in processing the CDs. So right now (unless something changes)
it's too late for new people to sign up to receive the CD. Also, please
note that it will take up to 4-5 weeks for the fanzines and CDs to arrive in
the United States/North America from Holland. Some locations, especially
those in Europe, will get them sooner. So if everyone could be really
patient, I would really appreciate it. :)
If you need anything, please read the US information at:
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/usdtifc.html
FIRST before sending me any questions via email. If you *really* need to
verify your subscription, you can email me, but I ask that you not do that
unless it's an extreme emergency. As it is, it's too late to sign up. So
if you're not already a member, there's not much I can do.
Anyway, I hope this clears things up. If I can ever do anything to help,
please don't hesitate to contact me.
-Nicole/Kirby braces for a ton of email and heads for the hills...
Nicole Stachowicz
US Coordinator for the Dream Theater International Fan Club
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/usdtifc.html
Kirby on irc.dreamt.org:2112 #ytsejam and #ytseradio
YtseKirby on irc.ram-page.com:6667 #mikechat
ytsekirby@yahoo.com -=- http://www.christopherlloyd.net
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:01:16 -0600
From: Mike A Marshall <marshallm@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Tour Complaints / Huh?
Message-ID: <20000108.180119.-300327.0.marshallm@juno.com>
>Subject: Tour complaints
>hey guys, Is it just me or is this a bad situation. Tickets for all of
teh shows
>announced are on sale as of now, so if you are not sure about DT
Yeah, i'm sure this creates a sticky situation for a lot of fans. I'm in
the same boat - I'd rather attend a show in Indy or somewhere in Ohio,
but the tour dates published so far cut short just before that! I know
Mike doesn't have anything to do with this - its the promoter's business,
and they can only do so much at a time. But, not wanting to miss this,
I've purchased my tix for Milwaukee and Chicago and am preparing for the
long-ass drive! And, hey, if they do arrange a show in Indy, Cincy, or
Dayton (maybe even Columbus), I'll just get to see several shows in the
week! I hope that the tour is successful, 'cause then there could be a
second US leg after the European dates!
>Subject: huh*&#$*&@
>
>What the hell is this? :)
>
>http://dreamtheater.net/
If you check the Links page, you'll see that the FreeBSD Monkey Project
people are the same ones that host OFB's www.dreamtheater.net (as well as
www.shadowgallery.com), so they probably took the www-less name for
protection from URL-poachers, or they're fans as well.
M.
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Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 16:19:29 -0800
From: Wes Foll <follwes@sc.llu.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Cc: Bonetones@aol.com
Subject: SoCal DT fan here
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000108161546.00976860@sc.llu.edu>
>From: Bonetones@aol.com
>Subject: "Wanted" SoCal DT Fans........
>I live in SoCal and I've been trying to locate some others that share the
>same interests in DT. I will be going to the shows here in OC and LA. Are
>there any others that will going and meeting up somewhere and getting
>together ? I live in Ontario, any one else live close by ?
>
>
>Big Daddy
I'm near San Berdu (Loma Linda). I'm going to the saturday night show. I
still need to purchase a ticket however. I'd also like to know if there's
going to be some kind of get together before the one on the 5th.
Also, if anyone wants to hook up at the Anthrax show at the House of blues
in L.A., I'd get into that. I've already got a ticket for that show. I'm
a displaced eastern jammer from Atlanta and don't really know any jammers
out here either yet.
Let me know if/when anyone wants to hang out before/after the show!
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What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an
endangered plant?
Wesley Foll, Geology B.S., Loma Linda University
follwes@sc.llu.edu
wfoll00g@ns.llu.edu
beavis@ytseradio.com
ICQ #4550740
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:08:10 EST
From: Fett2002@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Mercyful Fate
Message-ID: <c4.c44e6afa.25a9397a@aol.com>
>PS. I picked up Merciful Fate's "9" This shit makes Type-O-Negative sound
> like the Statler Brothers!
Speaking of Mercyful Fate, I' don't own any of their albums but I've been
meaning to pick up "Melissa." Just wondering if their are any Mercyful Fate
fans out there and what albums they could recommend me getting. Thanks!
-Mike C.
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:19:59 EST
From: Fett2002@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Remastering/And Justice For All
Message-ID: <97.97a2b87e.25a93c3f@aol.com>
>looking for a definition of 'remastering', a thought brought on by my idea
>that it has something to do with cleaning up the sound on prior versions of
>released albums, and the fact that I was listening to
>Metallica's "...and justice for all" CD yesterday.
>methinks that with a good production job, that might land a place on my all
>time top 20 fave discs lists, but as it is now, some spots are just tough to
>listen to....
>partha
I remember when Led Zepllin's stuff was remastered Jimmy Page was saying
that, ideally, when material is transferred to CD from tape that there is a
process that must occur for it to soud right. Many times companies ignored
this process and just through the stuff out on CD. By using this process,
which is "remastering," the material is as close to the original recording as
possible. Or something like that. It's got nothing to do with the production
or the mixing. I think a lot of the older CDs were from when music was
recorded using analog instead of digitally like is common now. (I think at
least. I'm no expert on this stuff by any means whatsoever). So sometimes if
ya have a CD with music form the 80's or 70's it might sound a lot better
when remastered. SOmetimes though it jsut doesn't make that big a difference.
And I hear what you're saying about And Justice For All. It is the dryest
sounding thing I have ever heard. The songs on there are amazing though IMO.
For some reason (perhaps becasue they lacked confidence in him?) much of
Jason's bassplaying is either very low or just not on there. does anyone out
there no the deal behind the production on that album?
-Mike C.
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:04:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Message-ID: <20000109020404.5065.qmail@web106.yahoomail.com>
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 21:11:00 EST
From: Bunny1682@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Megadeth in LA
Message-ID: <6.6d4d87c.25a94834@aol.com>
Hi yall,
Did any of you go to the Megadeth show at the House of Blues on Friday,
January 7? I was there, but damn me, I forgot to get down the set list. If
anyone has it, I would appreciate it if you could send it my way. Many
thanks.
Jenny
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:18:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Santana/Emotional songs
Message-ID: <20000109021823.6251.qmail@web119.yahoomail.com>
Wow. I never thought I'd see all this support for one
of my favorite artists. I thought I was the only one
around here who liked Santana. One of those great
guitar players that really sings with the guitar. With
all this talk about emotional songs, you gotta give
Carlos credit for putting a lot of emotion into his
playing. (I may be a bit biased in this discussion, as
I learned to play guitar by emulating Santana, as well
as Jimmy Page, Ronnie Montrose and David Gilmour.)
my $.02, BH
For a real emotional song, put on The Cure's "The Same
Deep Water As You". Put this single song on repeat
mode, and listen for 8 hours straight. If you don't
like The Cure, do the same thing with Space-Dye Vest.
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:19:01 EST
From: WhoFooldU@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: JP & Ibanez
Message-ID: <5b.5bb2cc89.25a95825@aol.com>
You know what....if he has split with Ibanez and gone to Ernie ball, great.
It just means that if Ibanez wants to get him back there will have to be more
money and respect.
In fact, this has happened once before with DT too...anyone recall Mike was
originally a Tama endorser. Then Awake came out and we had MP behind Mapex
kits. One tour later, he back to being a Tama endorser. Life is strange
that way ;) Just goes to prove a point that Tama NEVER should have let him
go the first time around.
Oh, and on the other thread with regard to Metal Grammys, QR was nominated
in 1989 in the Best Metal Performance (vocal or Instrumental) for "I Don't
Believe In Love". AFAIK Operation Mindcrime was never nominated as a full
length. And yes the lost that year to Metallica's "one". The only reason
Metallica took home the Grammy was for the 1988 fiasco with Jethro Tull-Crest
of a Knave. And in case you were wondering about that 1988 Tull Grammy, the
other nominees were AC/DC-Blow Up You Video, Jane's Addiction-Nothing's
Shocking, Metallica-AJFA, and Iggy Pop-Cold Metal.
WFU
NP: Superior - Behind (cause I found it in a used bin for $3.49) :)
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Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 22:34:44 EST
From: "Matthew McDaniel" <cfiatp@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: QR Grammy
Message-ID: <20000109033444.83811.qmail@hotmail.com>
>(one question, did Queensryche actually get a nomination for Operation:
>Mindcrime?)
> >grammys. The thing's a joke anyway. I mean, in 89 Jethro Tull won a
> >Grammy
> >for best metal album over Metallica's An Justice For All and
> >Queensryche's
> >Operation Mincrime!
After months of lurking I'm not sure why I decided to jump into the fire
about a topic I'm not positive about, but here goes. I was thinking that
QR's Grammy nomination was actually for Empire. After all, the general
music population had never heard of QR before Silent Lucidity, which was on
Empire. Of course, O:M is more deserving of an award IMO. Anyone know for
sure?
~Just another Matt
N.P. Bride: Oddities
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:46:58 -0600
From: "Lisa" <ytsedragyn@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Minneapolis DT show
Message-ID: <006801bf5a5d$4d4ccb40$c820420c@lil-dragyn>
>I'll be there! If you're coming from the east perhaps you could blow
by
>the ProGtoligist Ponderosa and goof off until the show. I live about
18
>miles east of the venue. Several of us are going to car-pool from
here to
>avoid parking hassles.
>Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
Hey, well actually four of us are coming down from the north west (as
in Fargo ND) but maybe we could hook up anyway? anyone else out there?
drop me an email and we'll see who can meet where when etc.
~Lisa
YtseDragyn@worldnet.att.net
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Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 20:54:58 PST
From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: TAMP/Eve
Message-ID: <20000109045458.83662.qmail@hotmail.com>
someone wrote:Just putting in my two cents...the most emotional DT song is
"Take Away My Pain"
Y'know, I never really dug TAMP on FII. It was an okay song, but nothing
special. But then when I picked up OIAL, I was totally floored. That sax
solo is one of the most emotional things I've ever heard. TAMP is now one of
my fave DT ballads, and I NEVER listen to the FII version. Has Jay
Beckenstein collaborated with DT other than what's heard on I&W and OIAL?
Also, I finally snagged me up an mp3 of "Eve" from napster.com (check this
site out!!!). After a few listens, I think I figured out what makes it so
emotional; because the feel changes with every chord change. It starts out
triumphant sounding, like something bad is FINALLY over, but then, when the
chord changes, it turns despondant. It does this over and over, which is
why it's such an emotional ride, imho
Oh, and Korgy, I think you nailed the 'cuban boy' thing right on the head.
-Banjoman
np: Ravi Shankar - Raga Mala (sitar concerto #2)
p.s. I really hope Jerry Goodman sits in for part of DT's set. Imagine DT
meets Mahavishnu! Yikes!!!
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:58:12 -0800
From: Jonathan D Willey <willeyatc@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: JP & Ibanez
Message-ID: <20000108.205813.-338101.0.willeyatc@juno.com>
> In fact, this has happened once before with DT too...anyone recall
> Mike was
> originally a Tama endorser. Then Awake came out and we had MP
> behind Mapex
> kits. One tour later, he back to being a Tama endorser. Life is
> strange
> that way ;) Just goes to prove a point that Tama NEVER should have
> let him
> go the first time around.
Mike may be able to clear this up but I think he may have also made the
move back because Tama came out with the Starclassic maple kits and such.
They made a big jump from the Rockstar kits to the Starclassic ones...
theyare fantastic kits IMO...
my thoughts
ytsejon
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:16:04 EST
From: Diablo6491@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5260
Message-ID: <ad.adefbefd.25a97394@aol.com>
<< methinks that with a good production job, that might land a place on my
all
time top 20 fave discs lists, but as it is now, some spots are just tough to
listen to.... >>
Hmm, this Cd could have been recorded on my home stero and I would STILL
love it to death. Its a freaking amazing piece of work. Everyone says the
production sucks on it, but I disagree. I think it sound awesome. I
actually think of the way it sounds when I think of the album, which makes it
more distinct then any other. The vocal style of James at that time(the only
time we hear him with a gruffer voice), and the LOUD dry drums. Shrug, I
love every minute of the CD and wouldnt waste my money on a "remastered"
version of it.
On the other hand:> I keep trying to get myself to buy Rush's
"Hemishperes" (which has been spoken of highly and I even have a CDR sampler
of it from a really cool guy in the DT NG) but I keep shurgging it off. The
CD is remastered and all, but I dont know why I can't just get myself to buy
it . . .
RaY
-The rain is falling . . .-
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 00:48:40 -0500
From: Dave M Klint <davek@csh.rit.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: DT show on the 1st
Message-ID: <200001090548.AAA01156@mcp.csh.rit.edu>
After finding out that Spock's Beard is opening for the DT shows on
_only_ the 1st and 2nd, I must figure out a way to make it from
New York to there without spending so much time that I fail out
of school. Does anyone have a line on getting good plane ticket
prices? What if we get a gang of east coast fans and see if we can
get the plane tickets cheaper? I'd drive but I can't miss the week
of school that it would take.
Any ideas? I MUST SEE THIS SHOW.
-davek
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:55:08 EST
From: DoubleJay54@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5260
Message-ID: <cb.cbc2d775.25a97cbc@aol.com>
<< I think it is a shame that a player seems to play the guitar
because he has got a deal rather than he/she believes it to be the best
instrument. >>
They don't always....When I saw Van Halen eddie used his Marshells, not the
5150.
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 01:05:11 -0500
From: Scott Sturdivant <ss011i@mail.rochester.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: JP & Ibanez
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.10.10001090100280.2504920-100000@mail1.ats.rochester.edu>
> Mike may be able to clear this up but I think he may have also made the
> move back because Tama came out with the Starclassic maple kits and such.
> They made a big jump from the Rockstar kits to the Starclassic ones...
> theyare fantastic kits IMO...
I don't really know if I'm right or not, but I'm pretty positive that Mike
has ALWAYS been a fan of Tama. If I remember correctly from his clinic at
the LI Drum Center, he bought his first kit there - the Tama beaut that
showed up for the softer songs of the FII tour as well as the LTE
sessions. So, with Mike's love for Tama, I doubt that he willingly left
their sponsorship. So to whoever said that he was booted then brought
back is (I think) correct. I'm just curious why he was let go..
And yes, the starclassics do rock. Kind of expensive...but hey, they
sound great!
Scott.
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 00:07:48 CST
From: "Andy Putman" <andyputman@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Emotional
Message-ID: <20000109060748.21821.qmail@hotmail.com>
>This emotional song thread... I just had to join in and say that
>Tchaikovsky's Symphony no. 6 "Path=E9tique" is THE emotional piece.
On the subject of orchestral music, I would have to say that the most
emotional piece I have heard is Mahler's 9th symphony. At some point in
their lives everyone should sit down in a dark room with candles and
meditate on death with the great Gustav Mahler. It is truly a wonderful
experience.
-Andy Putman
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 02:46:46 -0500
From: "M P" <mremann6@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Prog samplers and the mysteries of YTSEJAM 5260
Message-ID: <70E9D795645C3D1108D4000A9C4B45B0@mremann6.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
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because of difficulties here.<BR>
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don't forget the www., or you go to the parent org.<BR>
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Subject: Entropia<BR>
<BR>
>Personaly, I think Entropia is BETTER then ONe Hour . . . One <BR>
>hour has a really formulized song pattern, each song has a slow<BR>=
> middle section, where everything breaks down in a slow piece. =A0I=
<BR>
> love those parts, and I think One hours kicks ass, but Entropia<BR=
>
> isnt formulized at ALL. =A0Its psycho and its fuckin amazing=
:> =A0<BR>
<BR>
What he said ;)<BR>
<BR>
I also prefer the mix better - A/J<BR>
<BR>
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Subject: Re: toto drummer<BR>
>Is anyone here at all peeved about this Cuban Boy crisis thing?<BR>=
> =A0What a bunch of crap. =A0Where's King Solomon when you need him=
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Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 12:13:40 +0100
>Well I have to say that I will be keen to see what EB come up with for JP.
John without a doubt belives he's playing an awesome guitar. And I don't
>I wonder if the contractual details are about money, number of guitars,
Wrong. I had an oportunity of buying his acoustic guitar (and my best
If this thing is for real, I'll be very curious about what kind of
Matej
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 13:42:52 +0100
>I saw people talking about the toto drummer being cool, and I'm sure if =
Actually he've released 5 solo albums. The first two are next to =
>Yeah, but Simon Phillips hasn't >always< been their drummer. All of =
Simon have been the drummer of TOTO since 1992 right after the tragic =
Mike
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 16:11:10 +0200
In accordance with the prophecy, CyberDuke uttered:
> What the hell is this? :)
Lol! That was fun. The real site is at www.dreamtheater.net of course.
Linus
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 17:36:08 +0200
"Carlos A. Alfaro" wrote:
This is nice, finally seeing a growing amount of people liking FII stuff, and
Janne Jokitalo
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:36:04 EST
From: Pywokit@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5258
Message-ID: <48.4878c28a.25aa2104@aol.com>
In a message dated 1/6/00 9:54:35 PM Central Standard Time, Dustro2 writes
<< hey i need tix for the riv too!!! please help us!! >>
You got them already dicknose
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? <BR>
>=A0Chop the little fucker in two <BR>
<BR>
sadly, Mr. X-Ray, if their grandstanding would appear the better<BR>
for it, the governments would probably do your modest proposal.<BR>
- U/J<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 04:09:15 -0600<BR>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com><BR>
Subject: Stuff that stirs the soul<BR>
>Whew.... =A0 Just be thankful I didn't drag the vinyl out.. :)<BR>
>I'd really be surprised if someone knew every tune in the list.. <B=
R>
>=A0Anyone?<BR>
<BR>
well, I know all but two of the bands (Orr and Engine). does<BR>
that count? - D/J<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Subject: Viva Santana<BR>
<BR>
>> Imaging a world without Journey, <BR>
>I have no problem about that at all! :)<BR>
<BR>
Journey USED TO BE a prog band. check out their pre-Open Arms<BR>
stuff.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Prog samplers. I've got a few.<BR>
The broadest, cross-label collection you're likely to find<BR>
is "Supernatural Fairy Tales" from Rhino records, a 5 CD<BR>
set of old-school goodies. How representative they all are<BR>
is up to debate, but it does give a good look at what is out<BR>
there.<BR>
Other good stuff:<BR>
Progfest live samplers. This annual event hosts mostly recently<BR>
developed bands (with a few classics like Magma(!) last year)<BR>
and releases a compilation of the concerts.<BR>
Labels are always making up compilations. Check out Musea,<BR>
Cuneiform/Cuneiway, Pangea, Laser's Edge, and even Magna Carta<BR>
(every tribute album is a sampler).<BR>
<BR>
- D/J<BR>
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From: Matej Grginic <izolit@siol.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: JP and Ibanez
Message-ID: <38771BE4.90666347@siol.net>
>IMHO I believe the Ernie Ball guitars are very nice. I wonder why EB
>though? not PRS or Anderson or some other make. (I know about the
>non-locking PRS trems and the TA only ever have 22 frets; I am just
>speculating.) I think it is a shame that a player seems to play the guitar
>because he has got a deal rather than he/she believes it to be the best
>instrument.
blame him for leaving Ibenez for money reasons (if this thing is for
real).
His name on guitar is worth alot and if the company can't aprecciate it,
oh well, there are tons of great companies out there who will build
awesome guitars with any specs artist chooses.
>advertising or what. I know that SV and JS are the premier Ibanez endorses.
>I know Vai has been with them for 15 years but it was him who invented the
>RG/jem body and the back routed trem etc. etc. etc. So Via is an
>intellectual share holder in Ibanez so to speak. He really designed the
>break through instrument for them. Besides he loves his Ibanez guitars, you
>just need to read any interview where he discusses them. I have never
>hear/read about JP enthusing over his guitars like Via. Maybe JP just sees
>them as more of a tool.
friend
bought one of the electrics) and we had a lenghty discussion about
guitars
with John. He was quite enthusiastic about his guitars and little
details
that made them so special. And he frequently emphasised in various
guitar
mags how cool his guitars are, and how he can really nail the sound he
wants
with them.
guitar
EB & John will make. Because there was a roumor that he's building a new
guitar with Ibanez, I asked him about it and he mummbled something about
it being made out of mohogony. I wonder if he was talking about his new
EB guitar :)
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_Hagstr=F6m?=" <mikael.hagstrom@bracke.mail.telia.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: toto drummer
Message-ID: <001a01bf5a9f$1edc09a0$429d43c3@FOO.telia.com>
you=20
>really wanted to hear what he's got, just buy his solo album, don't =
know what=20
>it's called exactly, Magna Carta carries it. And yes, he is rather on =
the=20
>good side ;)
impossible to find.
- Protocol (1989)
- Force Majeure, Live (1993)
- Symbiosis (1995)
- Another Lifetime (1997, released on Magna Carta)=20
- Out Of The Blue, Live (1999)
Musically it's rock-jazz-fusion with emphasis on the drumming.
To view my thoughts on the albums you can check my site on=20
http://come.to/past.to.present (under the 'related albums' section)
the
>stuff I've heard has been with Jeff Porcaro, to my knowledge. He was a
>pretty good drummer in his own right. May the worms stop eating him
>someday. (in other words, he dead).
death of session legend Jeff Porcaro. Jeff Porcaro is my biggest hero of =
all time, his feel and time was out of this world! He didn't play flashy =
stuff like Mr. Portnoy, Mr. Phillips & Mr. Colaiuta. But with over 2000 =
released recordings featuring his drumming there's no question about how =
big this LA cat was. Jim Keltner called him "The man with the golden =
groove".=20
Every drummer who have taken lessons have played the "Rosanna" groove =
which is Jeff's. I think Portnoy played a part of it on atleast one of =
his drum clinics in Europe.
From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: huh!?!?
Message-ID: <yam8043.540.273146784@mail.telia.com>
============================================================================
I'd love to, but I'm building a pig from a kit.
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lairfight@softhome.net, visit http://linusworld.cjb.net (PGP key available).
From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Competition within bands
Message-ID: <3878AAE8.EEB70F8D@yahoo.com>
>
> Tristam Douglas wrote:
>
> >
> > If Derek was less of a threat with regards to upstaging JP than say KM/JR
> > this may
> > explain why the band was less innovative. I am not talking in terms of
> > musical merit or style here thought.
>
> Well IMO lines in the sand has Jp's most inovative (different for him) moving
> and one of the most beautiful solos hes played yet i think. Same with the
> "lead" on Hells Kitchen. Hell even the Take away my pain solo is awesome.
specially TAMP from it. It's one of my favourite song on FII, but also in
general. It moves me so much, especially the live version, although I prefer
JP's solo over the sax in OIALT.
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