YTSEJAM Digest 5252
Today's Topics:
1) label
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
2) FS: Savatage & Shadow Gallery CDs...
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
3) Re: [themirror] Re: Ytse Jam Problems
by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
4) Re: Europe 2000
by "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se>
5) Subject: Re: DT Record Contract
by Steve V <vanaus1@yahoo.com>
6) Gentle Giant?
by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
7) Re: SfaM the Movie
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org>
8) Trading Mp3s....The easy way
by "Matt Wilson" <dreamtheater66@hotmail.com>
9) mesa equipment for sale... marshalls too
by Ciptmg@aol.com
10) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5251
by "The Wizard" <thewizard@gw.total-web.net>
11) Re: SFAM ending
by Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net>
12) Re: Trading Mp3s....The easy way
by Marc van der Wal <M.R.van.der.Wal@cable.a2000.nl>
13) RE: uh...
by Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com>
14) Charlie vs KJLB
by Joe Rivera <hj_rivera@yahoo.com>
15) Re: Charlie vs KJLB
by DreamTheater75@aol.com
16) Record Deals, Y2K
by Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au>
17) Re: Charlie vs KJLB
by JamesAhab@aol.com
18) New Year
by "Wolfgang Rehmert" <Wolfgang.Remert@gmx.de>
19) Korn/Bass Tabs, blah blah blah
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
20) Happy New Year!
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
21) SFAM - the movie
by Erik Wahlen <mva@sbbs.se>
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:03:40 +0100
From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: label
Message-ID: <v04220800b49267234a24@[192.168.1.1]>
>Actually, unless I'm mistaken, WDADU was under the label of "One Way
>Records". I'm assuming that's NOT an EastWest label?
One Way Rec. is just one of those music recycle labels, actually
WDADU came out on Mechanic, a subsidiary of MCA back in 89. This
label never went anywhere, and so did WDADU.
>Bafu Vai
Uhmmm... welcome back!
Or is the Y2K thing really happening and I'm getting Jams from 1900? ;-)
Steffen
-- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - deutscher Dream Theater Fanclub (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)------------------------------
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 09:03:21 -0500 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FS: Savatage & Shadow Gallery CDs... Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19991231090321.007a3570@mail.erinet.com>
Prices *include* shipping...
Shadow Gallery - Carved in Stone $8 Savatage - Streets: A Rock Opera $8
$14 if you want both.
Dan
+- Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web -+ dantemm@erinet.com http://www.dlm.net/gc/ - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - +- Life is so much cleaner on the page (chromakey)-+
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:27:40 +0000 From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se> To: themirror@egroups.com Subject: Re: [themirror] Re: Ytse Jam Problems Message-ID: <386CCB6C.AC344F2C@home.se>
Lisa Marie Palma wrote:
> ... and I'm not sure my life would be the same without KorgX3 and his > unique brand of humor. > ;o)
I second that! KorgX3 definitely gets my vote for most humorous Ytsejammer of the year!
Happy New Year!
Andreas Skarin mailto:skarre@dtifc.com http://www.dtifc.com/sweden/
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:27:52 +0000 From: "sK@RRe" <sdts@home.se> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Europe 2000 Message-ID: <386CCB78.A17EAB93@home.se>
Marcel Schot wrote:
> Hi all, > > I just checked out the European tourdates on the fanclub site and I must > say I'm greatly depressed...no Holland :(((
According to Mr. B they're coming to Holland next summer.
Cheers!
Andreas Skarin mailto:skarre@dtifc.com http://www.dtifc.com/sweden/
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 06:28:05 -0800 (PST) From: Steve V <vanaus1@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Subject: Re: DT Record Contract Message-ID: <19991231142805.10841.qmail@web1106.mail.yahoo.com>
I think OIALT counts as two as far as the contract is concerned.
Steve __________________________________________________
That would mean that counting I&W, Awake, ACoS, LaTM, FII, OIALT, and Met2, that's only seven albums. That's still at least three years or more before their contract's up. I'm not worried :) They'll probably go with Metal Blade or something after that. Besides, DT makes plenty of money for E/W in their genre - they ARE the most popular of the progressive metal bands, hands down. I think E/W would jump at the opportunity to renew their contract. But hey, I could be wrong.
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:34:23 +0100 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Gentle Giant? Message-ID: <v04220801b4926ad2287a@[192.168.1.1]>
>np: Gentle Giant - Free Hand (holy wow!!! Why didn't someone tell me about >these guys earlier!!!?!?!?!)
I told you. You should have listened :-)
Get everything from '70-'76. After Free Hand continue with The Power And The Glory, Octopus, and Interview. Excellent stuff. But go to the official site (http://www.blazemonger.com/GG/) for more info about the numerous different CD releases first. There are some versions out there that should be avoided at any cost. If you got the One Way Records (there we are again) release of Free Hand, trash it and try to get the Terrapin Trucking one (UK release and out of print, so good luck). One Way used a wrong master tape, somewhat like a rough mix version, many great details of the final mix are missing.
Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - deutscher Dream Theater Fanclub (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:24:40 -0500 From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@wezl.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: SfaM the Movie Message-ID: <386CCAB8.26D3A676@wezl.org>
Now that is probably the funniest thing I've read on the jam in YEARS!!!
Uroborosss@aol.com wrote:
Nicholas: SHOOOW MEEE THE SUICIIIIDE!! You want me to be your patient? PROVE
> IT, DOC!! SHOOOW MEEE THE SUICIIIIIDE!!! > > Hypnotherapist: Okay! Yeah! SHOW ME THE SUICIIIIDE!!! > > Nicholas: I LOVE ODD TIME SIGNATUUURES!!! > > Hypnotherapist: I LOVE ODD TIME SIGNATUUURES!!! > > Nicholas: I WANNA SCREAM LIKE LABRIIIIIEEEE!!! > > Hypnotherapist: I'M CAUGHT IN A WEAEAEAEAEAEAB!!! >
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 11:12:53 EST From: "Matt Wilson" <dreamtheater66@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Trading Mp3s....The easy way Message-ID: <19991231161253.17985.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hi All,
Just wanted to come of out lurk mode to tell you about a little program call Napster...It allows you to send and recieve mp3s at the click of a button...more info can be found at www.napster.com ..I've been using it for a couple of months now and although there is a HUGE selection of music, there's not a whole lot of Prog Metal...I mean there's DT there but I know if a bunch of you guys & gals got hooked up with it we could share a ton of music...The download is small (less than 1 Meg) and the setup is simple....pick a password and user name, and off you go! I'm listed there as ProgRckr66..I just want to get some more ytsejammmers there...If the interest is there, I'll rip a few of my cds (Ex. DT, Rush, Symphony X, Stratovarius,Crimson Glory, King's X, Enchant, Vanden Plas)..I have the entire album catalogs of these bands...Matt
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 11:34:05 EST From: Ciptmg@aol.com To: aztecweb@klink.net (Aztec Jade), JAmoroso@pdp.albany.edu (Grimace), Subject: mesa equipment for sale... marshalls too Message-ID: <0.32fb3737.259e34fd@aol.com>
FOR SALE:
Mesa Dual Rectifier- Rack Mount ( 6 space) 100 watt California edition. new tubes and Mof boards. Sounds amazing! %=$800.00 obo
Marshall JCM 800 - hot rodded for a crisp , clear lead tone and massive crunch, One extra Gain curcuit 100 watts. Sound very similiar to a 5150 - $600.00 obo
Mesa / Boogie 50 Caliber - massive crunch, nice clean sound. (have the metallica sound).. $700.00 obo
Peavey Vandenberg guitars for sale - still have three left. all have bolt on necks. Dark Blue, Teal and a pink one. Dark blue one has a screamin demon pick up teal one has the stock pick ups pink one has the EMG 81 system and sounds great
$250 a piece for those. or will trade all three on a White Les Paul Standard year and condition not important.
thanks in advance and spread the word....
all the equipment is in great condition
Matt email: CIPTMG@AOL.com
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 12:02:14 -0500 From: "The Wizard" <thewizard@gw.total-web.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 5251 Message-ID: <NDBBJAOKCLFDIHNFDJMHMEIICAAA.thewizard@gw.total-web.net>
Hey fellow Progrockers, Just picked up some new music yesterday.
I finally found DT Live at the Marquee. The recording sounds different than Once in a Livetime. I think it's better. They still sound good, I think the mix is better. I don't hear the bass as distinct as in the Marquee recordings.
Another band I found was one called, Angra. These guys are really good and worth a listen to. Also a live version of Royal Hunt, not bad sounding and again worth a listen to. DC Cooper sings on this 2CD set. Lastly, moving to a new style of music (Jazz) I found a live version of Bela Fleck and the Flecktones. This is just an all around great CD. Banjo and jazz something you would never think would fit and it does very well.
My choices of cast members:
Nicholas: Nicholas Cage or Johnny Depp or Christian Slater Victoria Page: Alyssa Milano or Denise Richards Senator Edward Baynes (The Miracle):Gene Hackman or Malcom McDowell Julian Baynes (The Sleeper): John Travolta or D.B. Sweeney The Hypnotherapist:John Malcovich or Christopher Walken or John Lithgow And the older man in Fatal Tragedy: Sean Connery or Christopher Reeves
As for the answer to a question about DT's WDADU. That CD was with MCA records. I'm sure whatever record company they decide to go with be fine. Who cares what record company they are with, as long as they don't ask DT to change their music. It's not like they're going to NOT get a contract. If they didn't I'm sure the band would find one or do it themselves.
The following was IMO and is not subject to debate, but you can try. :) enjoy, Happy New Year to all,
The Wizard For fun and laughs check out www.lazyamericans.com Coming Soon!! Y3K information. Prepare yourself NOW!!!
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:00:47 +0200 From: Linus Akesson <lairfight@softhome.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: SFAM ending Message-ID: <yam8034.2383.274779536@mail.telia.com>
In accordance with the prophecy, John Penna uttered:
> anyone ever figure out what the ending of Metropolis part II is all about?
> i have a theory: > After listening again, I think what happens at the end > is the therapist sneaks into Nick's house and offs > him...the therapist being the re-incarnation of the > Brother\murderer...
> any one???
> --JP
I believe it's more like a dreaming-that-you-wake-up experience; The first time the hypnotherapist tells Nicholas to open his eyes, he doesn't really do that. That would explain the italics in Finally Free. Then, when Nicholas is at home drinking a cup of something & everything seems ordinary, the hypnotherapist really wakes him up, possibly killing him too.
On another note, could anyone tell me what the TV news report near the end of SFAM is about?
Linus ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seen on the back of a biker's vest: If you can read this, my wife fell off. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- lairfight@softhome.net, visit http://linusworld.cjb.net (PGP key available).
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:02:46 +0100 From: Marc van der Wal <M.R.van.der.Wal@cable.a2000.nl> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Trading Mp3s....The easy way Message-ID: <386CEFC6.17CCA822@cable.a2000.nl>
> ProgRckr66..I just want to get some more ytsejammmers there...If the > interest is there, I'll rip a few of my cds (Ex. DT, Rush, Symphony X, > Stratovarius,Crimson Glory, King's X, Enchant, Vanden Plas)..I have the > entire album catalogs of these bands...Matt uhm, wouldn't that be like illegal??
Marc
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:06:22 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Wait <camera_i@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: RE: uh... Message-ID: <19991231180622.25376.qmail@web303.mail.yahoo.com>
>>45.2 % of Americans pee in the shower >Also though, 80% of all statistics are misleading: 65% >of all people know this. Yep, and 78.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go take a shower.
And frankly, I think 45.2% is low. -Dan NP: FW Pleasant Shade of Grey.. or is it Gray? They don't teach us English in school in the US... they teach us Ebonics.
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:17:23 -0800 (PST) From: Joe Rivera <hj_rivera@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Charlie vs KJLB Message-ID: <19991231181723.27481.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com>
Not that I want to beat a dead horse, but of those who still think Charlie was God and resent KJLB joining the band, who has heard Charlie doing Metropolis pt1? Now that is atrocious! Not even an ounce of emotion. I thank my lucky stars that James came in and gave the band a chance at success.
I know this was years ago, but I still see people saying that DT is not DT without Charlie and, man, although people are entitled to their opinion, it's a wrong opinion :) (tongue firmly in cheek). And I do like WDADU, but that was not the DT we have come to love and cherish.
Enough ranting for me.
Oh yeah, while I'm at it, these are some of the songs I find hauntingly emotional:
Angra - Wuthering Heights Savatage - Alone I Breathe DT - Eve (I played this over at a dinner party and a friend burst into tears - and no, the food wasn't that bad) Michael Kiske - Always Queensryche - Someone Else Tribute to Rush - Analog Kid (different kind of emotion - always puts a smile on my face) Tesla - Song & Emotion Skid Row - Wasted Time
joe np. OFB - Speak to Me (Now why this didn't make it to FII is something I'll never understand - talk about an emotional song) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:52:37 EST From: DreamTheater75@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Charlie vs KJLB Message-ID: <0.cc259a59.259e7195@aol.com>
In a message dated 12/31/99 12:26:18 PM Central Standard Time, hj_rivera@yahoo.com writes:
<< Oh yeah, while I'm at it, these are some of the songs I find hauntingly emotional:
Angra - Wuthering Heights Savatage - Alone I Breathe DT - Eve (I played this over at a dinner party and a friend burst into tears - and no, the food wasn't that bad) Michael Kiske - Always Queensryche - Someone Else Tribute to Rush - Analog Kid (different kind of emotion - always puts a smile on my face) Tesla - Song & Emotion Skid Row - Wasted Time >>
Dont forget :
Dream Theater - Through Her Eyes Savatage - Believe ..i could name a lot of Meatloaf songs... ..and you cant laugh at that...after all, you put skid row
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Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 08:30:59 +1100 From: Graham Boyle <ytsejam@ozemail.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Record Deals, Y2K Message-ID: <386D2093.121BA23A@ozemail.com.au>
Well it's already 8.10am news years day here and it seems everything is in tact......
As for DT contract, WDADU was orginally put out in the USA on the Mechanic label, I think this version is kind of a collectors item these days. LaTM I believe is an import in ther USA ? So I don't know if the contract relates just to the USA or world wide ?
Oh anyone know where I can d/l Europe 'The Final Countdown' the new version ?
Happy New Year, hope America survives :) gaz
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:14:35 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Charlie vs KJLB Message-ID: <0.227e6a1c.259e92db@aol.com>
>< Not that I want to beat a dead horse, but of those who still think Charlie was God and resent KJLB joining the band, who has heard Charlie doing Metropolis pt1? ><
Someone actually thinks Charlie was God and is better than JL and DT is not the same w/o Charlie???? Thats news to me.
jim
np - sgt pepper
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:53:33 +0100 From: "Wolfgang Rehmert" <Wolfgang.Remert@gmx.de> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: New Year Message-ID: <000701bf53ea$40dde5c0$cde314d5@roterplatz>
Happy New Year Everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just had to get rid of that!!!!
drunk as hell and not giving a damn NP--Santana Live
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 16:14:21 PST From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Korn/Bass Tabs, blah blah blah Message-ID: <20000101001421.80891.qmail@hotmail.com>
As far as the Korn thread goes, I will concede that they are a very interesting and innovative band. But it doesn't change the fact that I cannot stand their music. If you enjoy Korn, that's great, I'm genuinely happy for you. But don't expect me to like them just because they're 'original'. New Kids On the Block were original, too.....
As far as the bass tabs go, I cheat =^). I download midi files, and translate them into standard notation with my lil' ol' Cakewalk Score Writer. Then I delete every track except bass. It's a great way to learn bass lines, and, while they may not always be 100% accurate, I'm very pleased with them. You have to read standard notation though, unless you have a program that'll translate 'em into tab. (TAB SUCKS, BTW! =^)
And to whoever said: "I'm a goddam rebel you suck I don't everyone's a racist I'm not that's why you suck and I don't so why don't you just boogie off of this world" I am in your debt. This is exactly what I've been trying to say about the whole hardcore scene, but never found the words. -Banjoman
np: Nothing. My CD's are all upstairs. Not a good arrangement. You care, I know. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bank hours cater to two classes of people: Bank robbers, and the unemployed - John Cleese ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:15:05 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Happy New Year! Message-ID: <200001010215.AA05156@crl.crl.com>
It's old news to you folks to the East, but Happy New Year to all Ytsejammers! Whether you consider it the turn of the millenium or not, the Great Odometer Flipover is something worth celebrating. :)
Good health and prosperity to all in 2000 and thereafter!
--Paul (2 hrs 45 min. to go :))
-- + Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com www.crl.com/~vanyel ICQ #4151223+ | Rush * Robert Jordan * Godhead * Michael Moorcock * Changelings | | James P. Hogan * Dream Theater * Storm Constantine * NIN * Dead | | Can Dance * Patrick O'Brian * Ozric Tentacles * Raymond Feist....|
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:03:25 -0500 (EST) From: Erik Wahlen <mva@sbbs.se> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: SFAM - the movie Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.04.10001011346520.1106-100000@holly.sbbs.se>
Good morning!
I just came up with the perfect set for the SFAM-movie. It includes Steven Seagal and Dolph Lundgren.... Seriously though, I just want to add some reasons for making a SFAM-movie =E0 la Brave, the Wall or even something like A pleasant shade of gray (I actually love what they did on that).
1. This is the first, and possibly the only, concept-album by OFB. 2. The story is good and I think fitting for making a movie. 3. I think I heard something about there not being any plans on making an official live-album (correct me if I'm totally wrong). 4. It would be a good way to reveal the ending.=20
I wonder what the costs for making a movie are, but heck - it should be possible.
BTW, I apologize if all of this has been said before.
/Erik
NP: Atheist - Unquestionable presence=20
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