YTSEJAM Digest 5561
Today's Topics:
1) jericho/ DT/ fozzy/ benoit
by Dyne <Dyne@home.com>
2) Re: Recent European setlists / FTP Server
by Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com>
3) no dream theater stuph
by Raivo Hool <hool@artun.ee>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5560
by "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5560
by Cluck42@aol.com
6) Re: Ibanez Prestige/CST models
by EvoReaper@aol.com
7) Return of the YtseScalper
by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
8) Re:YTSEJAM digest 5560
by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
9) Re: Yes at Imix.com...
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
10) Keyboardists do it with.......
by Sum WhiteGuy <pokgaitsai@yahoo.com>
11) Ytsejam Tape Trade 2000 News
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5560
by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:34:25 -0700
From: Dyne <Dyne@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: jericho/ DT/ fozzy/ benoit
Message-ID: <397DF9D1.255F8358@home.com>
]From: Billy920@webtv.net
BTW anybody else think Chris Jericho did a helluva job at the recent
PPV.
Speaking of Jericho, someone posted something about a band Fozzy which
Jericho is part of a few days ago. <<???>> Anyone know about this
jericho says that fozzy is his fave band. and this is comming from the
biggest DT fan, maybe someone should check these guys out. they can be
found at his web site.
and if you all think that jericho is something,
theres another wrestler making waves (jericho's buddy) named Chris
Benoit.
perhaps you've all heard of him... the next bret hart and heavyweight
champion of the world.
probably the only wrestler that opponents are said to really think twice
stepping in the ring with because -hey- they just dont he's faking his
moves.
its said that most wrestlers are warned by chris and the staff before
hand that theyre match up is gonna hurt like hell.
this guy actually makes wrestling look good and real!!
check out his matches...and you dont even have to be a wrestling fan!!
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:35:20 -0400
From: Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Recent European setlists / FTP Server
Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20000725162658.00b8c7a0@pop.mindspring.com>
Scott Hansen said:
>I just finished putting the latest setlists into the tourography (the 2nd
>M2000 European leg - July 2000), so check it out if your curious as to what
>they've been playing (and perhaps what we can expect here in the US this
>next month).
Thanks, Scott, for not posting the setlists here to the 'Jam. I'm flying
from Atlanta to New York for the Roseland and it's going to be the first
time in years that I'll be able to see DT without knowing exactly what
they're going to play that night (which is incredibly annoying, but that's
a gripe for another post. Let's just say the only reason I have 20 shows
from the current tour is that I'm a collector, not that each show is unique
or even interesting.)
Everyone please remember: put *SPOILERS* in your SUBJECT LINE if you're
going to post a setlist. Thanks!
Someone also asked about my FTP server. Unfortunately I don't have the
bandwidth to open the server back up, so it's down for the forseeable
future. I'm not going to try to run a server off my SDSL connection
because it's just not fast enough for more than a few users at a time. I
like people to get more than 4-5k/second. Take care all...
Adam
_________________________________________________
Adam Pye
alpine1(-at-)mindspring.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1
^^ Above URL for tape/cd list w/ setlists
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:32:27 +0200 (EET)
From: Raivo Hool <hool@artun.ee>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: no dream theater stuph
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007252323160.12674-100000@lizard.artun.ee>
]From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
> a friend was telling me all this, I haven't looked into it)
> that the crue doesn't play all their instruments on their albums,
I don't think that's even close to the truth; it sounds more like
metalheads in the eighties claiming that they know for a fact Modern
Talking (then well known German disco band) are doing each other up the
arse, or something like that. :-)
Well, and I truly doubt that an incompetent bassist would have gotten the
job to play on Alice Cooper's "Hey Stoopid" together with Steve Vai and Joe
Satriani (as Sixx did on "Feed My Frankenstein"), or that Mick Mars
would've appeared on the same album, were he a shitty axe-slinger.
In short (and short of anything related to Dream Theater), I say the
Megadeth fan was talking out of the corner of his mouth and the rest of the
orifice was full of his left foot. :-) It doesn't take a virtuoso to play
M=F6tley's material, and why would they want to hire somebody to play it fo=
r
them is beyond anybody. I know people who have seen the band live (in
Roskilde last year), and they came back with dropped jaws. Yes, the
musicianship.
Now, to add some Dream Theater content... Only Jordan has replied to
e-mails, and even that was before he joined the band. :-)
Incontinentia Buttox
aus Estland
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:00:43 +1000
From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5560
Message-ID: <397E464A.3E847154@alphalink.com.au>
> Er. Steve Morse has been an Ernie Ball user for at least 11 years and
> probably longer than that (he's pictured with his signature Music Man on
> his 1989 solo disc "High Tension Wires" and I think also on the 1984 disc
> "The Introduction"). Morse, in my opinion, definitely qualifies as one of
> the "big boys in the rock/prog/metal category". :)
Yer, especially considering that guy has some of the best guitar tones out there.
> Talking about the definition of prog(metal): are the Dire Straits prog
> (Romeo and Juliet, telegraph road, Private Investigations)? Or do they
> just have a very talented guitarist? And how come that in those four years
> I'm subscribed to the Jam, Mark Knopfler was AFAIK never mentioned (up to
> now)?
>
> Opinions?
Mark Knopfler's a great guitarist and can do stuff great stuff, but he's from more
of a jazz/country background, so there's not much reason to mention him in the
jam. Check out his stuff with Chet Atkins if you don't mind that sort of stuff.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:18:02 EDT
From: Cluck42@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5560
Message-ID: <f9.13627d0.26afa45a@aol.com>
In a message dated 7/25/00 2:40:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< A wrong note played in the right place is known in jazz as a "passing
tone";). >>
haha! leave it to jazz musicians to assign mistakes a fancy name ;).
rhetorical question..."wherefore is the correct place for a WRONG note?"
im not trying to get flamed here, jazz musicians have my utmost respect.
happy jamming!
oh yeah...and the new fates warning...just got it today...OH MY...this cd is
friggin G_R_E_A_T.
rose
cluck42@aol.com
"A wrong note played timidly is a mistake. A wrong note played with
authority is an interpretation."
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:07:04 EDT
From: EvoReaper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Ibanez Prestige/CST models
Message-ID: <36.922d4ff.26afafd8@aol.com>
<< With all the talk about 7-strings I just had to post :) If someone is
looking for a Petrucci-model 7-string from Ibanez, there is one model out
there that fits most of his specifications. Ibanez's RG7 Prestige model.
I really can't stand the basic RG 7 guitr, but this RG is awesome. It's
the RG model 7 string, only with a 3-piece mahogany body, flame maple top,
wizard I neck with a bubinga strip on the back, rosewood fretboard with the
dots set up like the JPM, gunmetal grey Lo-Pro trem with matching hardware,
direct mounted DiMarzio pickups, 5-way selector (with one coil tap), and a
nice touch... an ebony piece convering the front of the headstock. Overall
one of the best damn guitars I've ever played, and sounds excellent
recorded or live. List on it was $1899 for mine 6 months ago, and there
were only about 50 made. I also hear Ibanez makes a model similiar with a
piezo in the Lo-Pro and an ebony fretboard, and the price for that is about
$3000, and they're making more than 50 of those.
>>
Ok, this is *kinda* right.
"The CST also has a piezo bridge (I do believe it was
the first PRODUCTION guitar equipped with a Double
Edge), and that "with one coil tap" stuff is, to the
best of my knowledge, bogus. The 5-way switch on the
CST works just like the 5-way switch on any other
RGx20 guitar, which is to say not quite the same as
the JPM. The "coil tap" isto switch between teh
magnetic and piezo p/u's
The list on the CST was closer to $3000 and
they only made 12 of these, no where close to 50.
Currently Ibanez makes the 2027 (which I believe is
the exact same guitar as the "CT"). Which is like the
CST only w/o the flame maple top. It doesn't cost
anywhere NEAR $3000 (the last time I was at Guitar
Center they had one for around $1500) and it has
"unlimited production" so they'll make them until
people stop buying them.
That's about it for my knowledge of these beasts, but
you should be able to check out www.ibanez.com or
www.ibanez.co.jp for additional info on the 2027
"
Thanks to G for the info. I'll have the EXACT info on both these guitars for
the next Jam. (Both G and Rich are the most intense Ibanez fans of all time,
and can tell you ANYTHING you'd like to know about them. G deals mainly with
the RG series. Some of you may know Rich, he's Rich Harris, an Ibanez
broker.).
Warm Regards,
Andy
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:31:47 -0700
From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Return of the YtseScalper
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000726032524.00b79a50@cs.millersville.edu>
Hey all, sorry for the NDTC, but I had to put some concert tickets up for
sale on eBay, and I thought some Philly-area 'Jammer out there might be
interested.
Iron Maiden / Queensryche / Halford - 08/12 E-Centre (Camden, NJ) -- 3X tix:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=392588397
'Maximum Rock 2000' (Motley Crue / Megadeth) - 08/13 E-Centre (Camden, NJ)
-- 3X tix:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=392585572
Brian
[NP...TT Quick -- Ink]
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WB Henderson [wbhender@cs.millersville.edu]
Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio): http://ahp.musicpage.com/
WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com
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Date: 26 Jul 2000 07:45:13 -0000
From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re:YTSEJAM digest 5560
Message-ID: <20000726074513.32070.qmail@viebrock.chek.com>
>From: EvoReaper@aol.com
>Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5559
>have different necks and all. And if Vai held the rights
>to 7-Strings, we wouldn't be seeing 4000 of them on the
>market now.
I suppose that the only person with any claim on the
intellectual rights to 7-string guitars is George Van Eps,
whoe custom-ordered one from Epiphone in the 1930s. That
said, Van Eps never played "The Animal" or "Lie", though.
>He wanted a more versatile guitar over-all. (Piezo's,
>non-Picasso graphic, etc.), and Ibanez didn't want to
That's a real disappointment with the MMs for me - I love
that finish to death. I've even got a couple of guitars
with it on: a crappy strat with the B&W design, and just
ordered a custom JPM-ish (think of a Jackson Dinky with a hardtail, MM head and a Wizard neck) thing with a shades of green
picasso). I wonder who can sue me for that, Ibanez or JP?
>(Stay tuned for my Ibanez JPM project. Refinishing the
>top with a quilted maple Picasso graphic)
Cool. Tell all!
>And I think JP=B4s sound in SFAM is much better than in
>the other records.......... So I think he made a great
>choice
We can't tell yet - SFaM was recorded with a JPM!
~Simon
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:01:07 -0400
From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Yes at Imix.com...
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000726090055.00b13980@netmail.home.com>
Go through the www.yesworld.com site and you'll go right to it.
At 12:40 PM 7/25/00, you wrote:
> >
> >I was fortunate enough to see the Yes/Kansas show at SPAC and it
> >was amazing. B oth bands were great! Kansas did only two songs off
> >of "Somewhere to Elsewhere" (wh ich I hope everyone has purchased!).
> >Yes did the show I wanted. 8 songs in 2 hours! "Gat es Of Delirium"
> >was the highlight and they started with "Close To The Edge". I could
> >have lived without hearing "All Good People" for the millionth time
> >but that's no biggie. I got my personalized Yes-Masterworks CD from
> >Imix.com yesterday. Very cool!
> >
>
> The Yes/Kansas show in Pittsburgh was superb as well. I
>only wish they'd played "Mind Drive" too. Before the encore, a guy
>behind me was yelling "We want song number 7!!". It was hilarious.
> Where did you find Yes at imix.com? I didn't see them
>listed there at all.
>
> Steve
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:20:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sum WhiteGuy <pokgaitsai@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Keyboardists do it with.......
Message-ID: <20000726132050.11820.qmail@web1611.mail.yahoo.com>
>
> Hi all
>
> rumours would have us believe the Derek (who's he?)
> liked to pork the odd groupie or three. If that's
> true, then why isn't he on this list?
>
> http://www.metal-sludge.com/LongShort.htm
>
> Hardly any mentions of people who play in prog bands
> at all, actually - could this be because they spend
> too much time wanking musically...
>
> stay safe and happy listening
> Neil Gallop (neil.gallop@softwareag.com)
> Currently playing: IN EXTREMO - Verehrt Und
> Angespien
>
Speaking of horny prog keyboard players......
]From The Washington Post (July 25, 2000):
*****Begin Quote***********
Yes Star Accused of Assault
British supergroup Yes performed at Nissan Pavilion on
Sunday night, and apparently the group's 35-year-old
keyboardist was not on his best behavior.
Prince William County police say Igor Khoroshev
sexually assaulted two female security guards working
backstage at the concert, reports The Post's Josh
White. A 26-year-old woman who was not identified told
police that Khoroshev sat on her lap during a break
and tried to put his tongue in her mouth. When she
tried to repel his repeated advances, the musician
sank his teeth into her neck, leaving a nasty red
mark, she said.
Then after the show, Khoroshev allegedly tried again
with an unnamed 22-year-old security guard. Police
said Khoroshev walked up to this woman, made a few
lewd comments and squeezed her buttocks.
Khoroshev has been charged with assault and battery
and sexual battery, both misdemeanors. If convicted,
he could face up to two years in prison and $5,000 in
fines. Yes continues its U.S. tour, playing tonight in
Virginia Beach.
******End Quote**********
Jon.
pokgaitsai@yahoo.com
mau-tze@erols.com
NP: Disconnected, Fates Warning
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:21:51 -0400
From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
To: Ytse Love-In <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Ytsejam Tape Trade 2000 News
Message-ID: <20000726102151.A11110@optical.mindstorm.com>
Hey, folks. I've been getting a lot of great comments and ideas from
Jammers the last couple of days. Keep 'em coming!
(If you don't know what I'm talking about, see
http://miracle.burningblue.net/tapetrade. The site's up now. Yes, it
looks plain. I don't have time to make the web site spiffy. Besides,
it looks good in lynx. You can also finger
tapetrade@miracle.burningblue.net for info as well.)
After thinking about a couple of suggestions very carefully, and after
realizing that I'm pretty much not going to be home this weekend, I've
decided to push everything back a week. That means that categories
will be shored up by Monday, August 8th, and that's when we will start
accepting e-mails to join the Tape Trade.
I hope to get a lot of people involved in this, so that we can all
benefit that much more by hearing new stuff. And all it costs is a
couple blank tapes or CDs and a couple bucks in postage.
More news as I come up with it,
-d
NP: D.F.A.: Lavori In Corso
P.S. I'm *seriously* thinking about taking 8/30 and 8/31 as vacation
days, to facilitate partying before and after the Roseland show.
Who's in with me?
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The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough
d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates
cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:23:23 -0500
From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5560
Message-ID: <B5A45E8B.6C3D%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
on 7/26/00 5:46 AM, Cluck42@aol.com at Cluck42@aol.com scribbled in vibrant
crayola:
> haha! leave it to jazz musicians to assign mistakes a fancy name ;).
> rhetorical question..."wherefore is the correct place for a WRONG note?"
Pet peeve...."wherefore" means "why" *not* "where." This has been your
English Factoid of the day. :)
-Brian
--Each time I write lines for it, someone improvises it life is so much cleaner on the page.
-Kevin Moore
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