Re: Whence...

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Date: Thu Jul 27 2000 - 15:13:00 EDT

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    >
    >}Pet peeve...."wherefore" means "why" *not* "where." This has
    >}been your English Factoid of the day. :)
    >
    >And here's one for tomorrow. :)
    >
    >"Whence" does not mean where - it means "from where." Like when you
    >see stuff that says to send something back "from whence it came" you
    >know it was written by someone uninformed. You shoulde sende him
    >backe whence he came. Ande aske him wherefore is he so stupide?
    >

            Actually, "from whence" is a controversial but often used form.
    To quote Webster's:

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    Main Entry: whence
    Pronunciation: 'hwen(t)s, 'wen(t)s
    Function: adverb
    Etymology: Middle English whennes, from whenne whence (from Old English
    hwanon) + -s, adverb suffix, from -s, genitive singular ending; akin to Old High
    German hwanAn whence, Old English hwA who
    Date: 13th century

    whence: from what place, source, or cause <then whence comes this paradox --
       Changing Times>
    - from whence : from what place, source, or cause <no one could tell me from
      whence the gold had come -- Graham Greene>
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            From allwords.com:

    Usage Note: The construction from whence has
    been criticized as redundant since the 18th
    century. It is true that whence incorporates
    the sense of from: a remote village, whence
    little news reached the wider world. But
    from whence has been used steadily by
    reputable writers since the 14th century,
    most notably in the King James Bible: "I will
    lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence
    cometh my help" (Psalms). It is difficult to
    label as incorrect a construction with such
    respectable antecedents. Still, it may be
    observed that whence (like thence) is most
    often used nowadays to impart an archaic or
    highly formal tone to a passage, and that
    this effect is probably better realized if
    the archaic syntax of the word - without from - is
    preserved as well.

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                                    Steve



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