YTSEJAM digest 5504

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Fri Jun 09 2000 - 12:49:40 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Yes/Rush Tour?
     by "Weissenburger - Jeremy S." <jeremysw@umd5.umd.edu>
      2) Re: DT questions
     by JamesAhab@aol.com
      3) Re: Christmas cds, weird stuff!
     by YtseSryche@aol.com
      4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5503
     by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
      5) Moving to SF soon..
     by Drew Schinzel <analogkid82@yahoo.com>
      6) Moving away from SF...tomorrow!
     by "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com>
      7) Inductors, capacitors, resistors, OH MY!!!
     by Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
      8) Petrucci / Rudess unplugged boots
     by Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
      9) banned from the list :-)
     by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@artun.ee>
     10) and a question to magyar jammers
     by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@artun.ee>
     11) return of the 80s
     by mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
     12) RE: DTC!!! Can You Believe it?
     by "Aris Lambrianidis" <sithlord@hol.gr>
     13) Jeff Sipe& Rod Morgenstein
     by "Kemal AKBAY" <kakbay@hotmail.com>
     14) Graduating...
     by "Daniel Bengtsson" <danielbengtsson@telia.com>
     15) new echolyn!!!!!
     by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
     16) Re: return of the 80s / I'm gone
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
     17) single-message mode
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
     18) single-message mode
     by "JM Souter" <jmsouter@hotmail.com>
     19) Petrucci and Rudess...
     by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
     20) rice and korn
     by "Carlos Alfaro (ICQ#1254229)" <prog@musician.org>
     21) RE: rice and korn
     by David Dixon <dixon@iisweb.com>
     22) Re: rice and korn
     by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
     23) Completely un-DTC
     by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
     24) Korg's nervous breakdown
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>

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    Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:42:18 -0400 (EDT)
    From: "Weissenburger - Jeremy S." <jeremysw@umd5.umd.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Yes/Rush Tour?
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.21.0006081938460.30890-100000@holmes.umd.edu>

    >Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:06:06 -0500 (CDT)
    >From: "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
    >
    >
    > Just wondering if there has ever been a YES/RUSH tour or show at
    >any time,

    Nope.

    > and if not what do the people think the odds are that there
    >ever would be assuming RUSH does continue to tour?

    I think the biggest problem would be deciding who opens for whom. Yes has
    been pretty much a headlining band, as has been Rush. I can't see either
    band giving up headliner status.

    --Jeremy, who's miffed he missed Primus open for Rush 'cause it musta been
    cool.

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    Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:10:27 EDT
    From: JamesAhab@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: DT questions
    Message-ID: <7f.56a2474.26718ff3@aol.com>

    >< 4. does anyone have the Damn the Machine album? Is it good? I only have
    one video from them. Coool. ><

    You have a video from them? Where'd you get that?

    Anyway, I'd highly recommend it. The vocals are very good (IMO) with great
    songwriting and good musicianship. It's not "prog" in the DT vein - no
    extended solos or anything - but it's still progressive by definition, or at
    least my definition.

    I actually got into DTM before even knowing of Dream Theater. I got their
    album before any DT album and only knew about them opening for DT when I got
    Awake.

    Jim

    np - billy joel: turnstiles

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    Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:44:37 EDT
    From: YtseSryche@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Christmas cds, weird stuff!
    Message-ID: <76.c8b9e.267197f5@aol.com>

    Hey, i just got a SECOND christmas album in the mail and i'm rather confused
    especially since you people are saying you still haven't gotten yours. If
    anyone wants it, i'm more than willing to trade for a boot of some kind,
    cause who wants two??? just write me back
    tonyC

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    Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:46:29 -0400
    From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5503
    Message-ID: <20000608204629.B5777@optical.mindstorm.com>

    On 2000-06-08 at 15:46 -0700, ytsejam@torchsong.com
    <ytsejam@torchsong.com> truly believed:

    > Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:41:57 +0200
    > From: "Robertsen Angelita; GTN" <angelita.robertsen@globetrotter.no>
    > Subject: RE: YTSEJAM SUBSCRIPION
    >
    > HI!!!
    >
    > CAN YOU PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST??

    Must. Practice. Self. Restraint. Don't. Feed. The. Trolls.

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    > Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 13:28:46 CEST > From: "Ricardo Testa" <ricardotesta@hotmail.com> > Subject: What The..... > > This is my first YtseJam this week!! It is Thursday! What was that all > about?? How often does that happen? How many did I miss? Am I the only > one? Oh well......

    Servers die, and are reborn. Shit happens.

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    > Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 05:46:11 PDT > From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> > Subject: so i send off a resub request..... > > and the next jam hits my box about (i kid you not) about twelve seconds > later.....now that's what I call instant gratification!

    Wow. I guess I need to take some perl scripting lessons from Skadz. :)

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    > Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 15:30:36 +0200 > From: "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu> > Subject: DT questions > > 1. Do KevMo and Jordan know each other?

    Am I misremembering, or didn't Kev help Jordan with patches before Jordan played that one show with DT?

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    > Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:06:06 -0500 (CDT) > From: "D. Frantz" <dfrantz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5502 > > Just wondering if there has ever been a YES/RUSH tour or show at > any time, and if not what do the people think the odds are that there ever > would be assuming RUSH does continue to tour?

    Oh, man, I just pitched a tent thinking about that. However, I don't think it's likely to happen. The last few Rush tours, they've taken out bands that are good, and not necessarily prog, but young and looking for a break. (cf Tommy Shaw in the 80s, Vinnie Moore, Mr. Big, and Primus.)

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    > Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 17:57:25 -0400 > From: davidtheliotis <wiggin@nac.net> > Subject: Re: Christmas CDs

    Just curious if that e-mail address is an Orson Scott Card reference.

    -d NP: Mets vs. Orioles :)

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    Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:17:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Schinzel <analogkid82@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Moving to SF soon.. Message-ID: <20000609011722.21920.qmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com>

    Hey all, I posted this to Perp Motion also so some of you might see this twice, sorry !

    Anyway, lI'm finishing up college in December and planning to move out to San Francisco in January, can any jammers shed some light on their experiences there ? Any of you guys live there, and enjoy it ? What's a good area in the city for someone fresh out of college but without a heck of a lot of money (but enough to survive for a bit, I may only be there for 8 months) to look in for an apartment ? How's the cost of living ? Any of you guys looking for a roommate ? :)

    I'm just looking from some "inside" info from people who've lived there for a while, and can maybe give me some tips before I go out there. Private email please ! :)

    Thanks a lot !

    Drew

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    Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:52:59 -0700 From: "Dave Thomas" <dthomas@best.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Moving away from SF...tomorrow! Message-ID: <002701bfd1bd$d332a900$046400c0@Laptop>

    Someone asking about SF made me think to post this. We're leaving SF for Bethesda, MD, tomorrow. The only advice I can give anyone coming here is bring lots of money. It's one of the most beautiful cities you will ever see, and one of the most expensive. Oh, and SF has the best CD stores of any city I've ever been too. Compact Disc Warehouse, Rasputins, Streetlight and others are all worth checking out, whether you're moving here or just visiting (I'm sure that cool CD store info is not something you get from the local visitor info center).

    I do believe I am caught up on all trades, except that CD Tree one, which seems to have died before it got started. If I'm not, let me know. Anyone needing to yell at me about anything use the DaveT@pixelplanet.com address, as that's the only one I know is staying around.

    On a more personal note, I want to say thanks to all the cool people I've encountered during our stay in CA. This includes LA people (Cheryl, Mosh) and SF people (Neal, Nicole, Rick, Lisa) and anyone else that hung out with us at some point and made our time here more enjoyable. The last two people on that list will really be missed, if for no other reason that they know where all the cool Thai places are.

    I'll be away for a month. I'll actually start to update my site again after the move (it is too stressful to write and pack, so I stopped writing). I have a pile of CDs to get to, including the new Kansas and Steve Morse, which I have not even listened to yet. I guess I'll save them for our cross-country drive. Oh, I've also been involved in the shooting of five (I think) different TV shows about roller-coasters, so if you watch this sort of thing you might see my nasty head appear on your TV screen. One of the producers made Kim and I "act" which was a really odd and sort of annoying experience that I hope they don't include in the show. "Perky" we are not...

    Here's some quick CD reviews of some other stuff I've gotten recently:

    Aghora/Aghora - Sean Malone rules. He was the mastermind of my favorite CD in 1999, Gordian Knot. He's back with a different project, one that includes vocals. The music rules, and the female vocals are not as bad as I was led to believe, although they're a little too forward in the mix. The music and playing is amazing, though, and Malone is at the top of my list of genius musicians, along side Devin Townsend. A must buy.

    Pain Of Salvation/Entropia - Everyone says "Concrete Lake" is better. I'm not sure, but this CD is just as good as their other one. This is another band that defies description, but it is certainly heavy and progressive and very interesting to listen to. Do yourself a favor and get both CDs.

    Opeth/Still Life - I'm not a huge fan of the "death" vocal style, but this band's music is so compelling that I sort of got used to them. The music here is just amazing. Really interesting contrasts between heavy stuff and acoustic, folky interludes. More clean singing than on previous discs (I think), but the structure of the songs are so good you'll just get used to the growls. Well worth checking out. Oh, and whoever is keeping this from being distributed in the US should be fired.

    Mayadome/Near Life Experience - I saw these guys blow the roof off the Powermad dump last year, so I don't know why it took me so long to get this CD. Another excellent prog metal disc. Reminiscent of DT at times, but Mayadome puts their own spin on the stuff, so they don't really sound that much like the 9 million Euro DT clones out there. Another good one.

    Evergrey/SDT - Another band that blew the roof off the Powermad pancake hall, this is a serious slab of powerful metal with one of the best opening tracks I've heard on a CD this year. If you like heavy stuff at all, you need to get this.

    The Quiet Room/Reconceive - The title is very accurate, as the band has shifted from their Fates Warning-inspired sound that was found on their first CD to this very, very heavy prog metal attack. There are keys, but they're rather buried in the mix, and the emphasis is on the grinding guitars. The vocals are different too, much rougher than before. At first I was disappointed, but after multiple listens I started to get into it. The best way to approach it is not to think about the first CD, and just take it on its own terms.

    Platypus/Ice Cycles - OK, a sort of negative review now. I liked the first CD, but this one leaves me cold. The instrumentals are great, but the vocal tunes seem sort of lifeless and flat. Perhaps I need to listen some more, but so far this is not grabbing me at all.

    I'm sure that's more than enough from me. So I'll stop. Have an action-packed June, everyone.

    Dave Thomas - Editor, Pixel Planet Reviews of books, music, comics, movies, games, CG software, programming tools and more! http://www.pixelplanet.com

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    Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 23:06:20 -0400 From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Inductors, capacitors, resistors, OH MY!!! Message-ID: <20000608.231450.-870751.0.Axeman_dannl@juno.com>

    > Anyway, if I remember the original post from last week, it was > someone's guitar setup picking up AM radio stations.

    yeah, that was mine, too. I'm trying to figure out a way to correct it. I'm gueesing the connection from guitar to cable to wah pedal is creating a resonating circuit (the guts of a radio), which consists of an inductor (guitar pickup), resistor (cable), and a capacitor (I'm guessing the wah). Does anybody know anything about how a wah pedal is built / functions and how it compares to a standard capacitor. Sure, the easy way to alleviate my problematic radio reception is to use a different cable, but that's the easy way. :-) Anybody know of a way to change the capacitance of a wah pedal? Maybe I can turn it into a radio receiver and get some funky squealing effects out of it.

    whatever, i'm rambling.

    -Dan. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 00:03:08 -0400 From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Petrucci / Rudess unplugged boots Message-ID: <20000609.000318.-780843.0.Axeman_dannl@juno.com>

    Is anybody plannign on taping the Petrucci / Rudess show in Nyack on saturday. A friend and I are going, but have no recording gear. Perhaps we could trade some tapes. I have nothing (but could get some blanks to trade you for), but I think he's got some Tull boots. Cash is a possibility, but we'd have to haggle.

    private responses please

    thanks, -Dan. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:42:13 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@artun.ee> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: banned from the list :-) Message-ID: <002101bfd1e6$3ab70760$0201a8c0@internal>

    I had a point somewhere along the way and since I'd spent so much time typing it, I thought I wouldn't let it go to waste.

    Oh, and the Jam was down for usual reasons: Skadz told me that the machine it was running on just broke.

    ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@artun.ee> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 9:58 AM Subject: banned from the list :-)

    > From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> > > > Anyway and where is Kurt Cobain, soundgarden, blind melon and the rest of > > the "Seattle Sound?" > > You should've come up with better examples. With the exception of Blind > Melon, of whose music I've never heard a note, the so-called > Seattle-sounding bands that you mentioned absolutely rocked. I could go in > depth, but I'll leave it at that. Granted, there were many useless and > pointless clones and just plain fakes - but isn't 90% of any brand of pop > music* just that? There were the mighty three (plus many smaller acts that > were just as good, sometimes better) and regardless of whether you liked > them or hated their guts and music for whatever reasons, their contribution > to rock music is not to be questioned. > > Oh-oh. What a sentence. > > Which reminds me that I should play Cornell's "Euphoria Morning" right now. > :-) > > Raivo Hool > > ---- > > * On the bigger picture, there are bigger generalizations and less genres. > While we're at praising Dream Theater for the guys' great skills, Dream > Theater are pop stars. Steve Vai is a pop star. Christina Aguillera is too. > Limp Bizkit are pop stars. So is Genesis. Modern Talking. Trent Reznor. > Marillion. Motley Crue. Anthrax. Metallica. Rush. Etc, ad nauseum. Pop. Deal > with it. :-) >

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:45:57 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@artun.ee> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: and a question to magyar jammers Message-ID: <002d01bfd1e6$c22aa080$0201a8c0@internal>

    Hey

    Are there any Hungarians on this list wacky enough to attend the Masfel concert in Hannover at June 22?

    Raivo Hool, Estonia

    Now playing: Angyaltojas

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    Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 18:47:54 +1000 From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: return of the 80s Message-ID: <3940AF3A.A8D444F4@alphalink.com.au>

    > I think the greatest thing in the article was the statement : Saying that > alternative music would die and 80's rock would make a comeback. Umm its > June 2000, Poison is fixing to launch another stadium tour, Def Leppard > just had a gold record, Megadeth went gold (how I don't know), Maiden is > FUCKING BACK, Queensryche, Ratt, Motley Crue, Anthrax umm should I go > on.... > > Anyway and where is Kurt Cobain, soundgarden, blind melon and the rest of > the "Seattle Sound?" > > DEAD OR SPLIT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I know you're probably being a bit sarcastic, but I'll flame you anyway :) Considering how huge megadeth, Maiden, Crue, Ratt etc were back in the 80s, going gold is nothing fantastic. Most of the people buying there CDs would be going on thirty at least now. A genre 'comes back' when a new generation starts to get into it and popular bands have obvious references to it. The late 60s/early 70s came back during the 90s when bands like Pearl Jam, Radiohead and the Smashing Pumpkins came out with obvious influences from Pink Floyd, the Doors etc. Also new generations started buying Jimi Hendrix and Led Zep and stuff. This has not happened with 80s metal. There is virtually nothing in the mainstream that is close to 80s power metal. Thrash and hardcore has stayed alive generally, but definately not melodic or power metal. The only thing that comes close to this style of music is Metallica, who in many ways are a bit of an exception to the general mainstream trends. As for the early 90s Seattle Sound. Currently in Australia (which is pretty much the same as America), the number one album is Matchbox 20 - a new band with a very Seattlish sound. Number two is Perfect Circle - the SIDE PROJECT of a popular 90s band. Number three is none other than Pearl Jam, a veteran of the genre.

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:01:22 +0300 From: "Aris Lambrianidis" <sithlord@hol.gr> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: DTC!!! Can You Believe it? Message-ID: <HEENJBLHNOPOFHNDDCGOGEIECEAA.sithlord@hol.gr>

    >Is anybody on this this going to be attending the Rockwave Festival - Athens, Greece 7/14/00 > >Dream Theater and Iron Maiden on the same bill! just throw in RUSH and you've got my top three bands of all time.> > >Alas, I cannot attend, as I am poor an airfare lies beyond the realm of my financials. And yet, I do, dare, dream. > >-Koggie >"Don't you understand [Sinead}, we don't want you to hate, we want you to love!" - SNL

    Me for one :)

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    Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 03:11:34 PDT From: "Kemal AKBAY" <kakbay@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Jeff Sipe& Rod Morgenstein Message-ID: <20000609101134.97432.qmail@hotmail.com>

    I bought that Jazz is Dead album from a small store in NY but I'm sure -if not, from Tower- you can find it through www.jazzisdead.com or; the mp3's from http://zebradisc.com/html/zebra_records.html By the way the drummer Jeff Sipe was playing with Original Aquarium Rescue Unit (and so does Jimmy Herring); and also played for a band called Leftover Salmon.. and Jazz is Dead for sure. "Since Jazz is Dead drummer Rod Morgenstein is left-handed, a right-handed drum kit will be provided for Sipe and both drummers will play together. " I think that's cool :) (Also..there is a famous world car racer called Jeff Sipe, you might be familiar with that!?)

    Have a nice day YtseJam followers!!! Kemal

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 13:00:43 +0200 From: "Daniel Bengtsson" <danielbengtsson@telia.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Graduating... Message-ID: <007f01bfd202$2fb4aa40$aca0c6c3@default>

    I graduated yesterday! Which should have made one happy and all that = stuff. Instead, I woke up today, the day after, ill. Seems like I've = caught a heavy cold. Add fever to that, and you're not in the best of = moods.=20

    Anyway, I went to some kind of farewell party last night. An = over-crowded club where everyone were over the top. Literally. I guess = one should have had a good time there too / looking forward to the = future and all, but instead I just felt depressed. There was this lady = who's been on my mind lately, and although I'm only a friend to her, I = can't stop thinking about her (although I know we're too different for = it all too work). So, here I am today. Fighting a cold and a hangover. = Missing her and the fun moments we had back in school. Not knowing what = I'll do about this summer and the rest of my life. I just know we'll = never meet again. You may ask yourselves why I didn't lay it on the line = and talked to her about it? I pretty sure she'd only give me a strange = look. In addition to that she already has a boyfriend. So, what should = have been one of the happiest days in my life has turned out pretty = miserable. Why? Feel free to cheer me up... ;)

    Btw, anyone else had the same feeling?

    Going back to bed, Daniel

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    Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 05:48:09 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: new echolyn!!!!! Message-ID: <20000609124809.78294.qmail@hotmail.com>

    "good luck, noise & interference problems usually suck."

    I dunno, I'd take good luck any day....

    regarding the subject, cowboy poems free hit my mailbox, and the first listen was good, although it didn't smack me upside the head, large trout style, as hard as the first impressions of As the World and their priors. Maybe it's more like four exclamations points :) Either way, this one's gonna get plenty of play around my ears......

    Oh, and there's anyone who is going to preorder the new Fates Warning disc (through the Metal Blade site's "get it when the euros do" offer) who doesn't suffer from internet credit card phobia, let me know so that I may make some kind of deal with you....

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:03:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: return of the 80s / I'm gone Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10006090857480.97384-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, mikel wrote:

    > As for the early 90s Seattle Sound. Currently in Australia (which is > pretty much the same as America), the number one album is Matchbox 20 > - a new band with a very Seattlish sound. Number two is Perfect Circle > - the SIDE PROJECT of a popular 90s band. Number three is none other > than Pearl Jam, a veteran of the genre.

    Well, apparently Australia isn't anything close to the U.S. because Matchbox 20 is NOWHERE NEAR a new band. They've been around for quite a while, unless you're just referring to their new album.

    Unless they've GREATLY changed their sound between Yourself Or Someone Like You and Mad Season, I can't even IMAGINE them sounding like any of those Seattle Sound bands like Nirvana. Matchbox 20 is very much a poppy- sounding alternative band, and while I like their sound, I can't possibly put them in the same category as Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots and Nirvana.

    On a different note, I'm leaving this morning for my summer job - and who could ask for a better one, writing music for a childrens' theatre :) - but I don't know what my Internet situation is going to be, so if I don't have access, I'll see y'all in August. :)

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 08:52:13 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: single-message mode Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274AE3E439@ISDCRE00>

    I was subscribed to the 'Jam for years in Digest mode.. but when I switched it to single-message mode, it's been a lot easier on me. I couldn't even tell the 'jam was 'broke' :)

    JM

    > -----Original Message----- > From: Raivo Hool [SMTP:raitz@artun.ee] > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 3:01 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: banned from the list :-) > > > I had a point somewhere along the way and since I'd spent so much time > typing it, I thought I wouldn't let it go to waste. > > Oh, and the Jam was down for usual reasons: Skadz told me that the machine > it was running on just broke. > >

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    Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:53:25 CDT From: "JM Souter" <jmsouter@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: single-message mode Message-ID: <20000609135325.42573.qmail@hotmail.com>

    I was subscribed to the 'Jam for years in Digest mode.. but when I switched it to single-message mode, it's been a lot easier on me. I couldn't even tell the 'jam was 'broke' :)

    JM

    -----Original Message----- ]From: Raivo Hool [SMTP:raitz@artun.ee] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 3:01 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: banned from the list :-)

    I had a point somewhere along the way and since I'd spent so much time typing it, I thought I wouldn't let it go to waste.

    Oh, and the Jam was down for usual reasons: Skadz told me that the machine it was running on just broke.

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:03:56 -0400 From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Petrucci and Rudess... Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFALHOPNNPNHKNKEBJCAAA.szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>

    Could I just get a show of hands as to who's going to Nyack to see the Petrucci/Rudess duo gig tomorrow night? Should be pretty cool...

    Steve Z

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:13:35 +0400 From: "Carlos Alfaro (ICQ#1254229)" <prog@musician.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: rice and korn Message-ID: <200006091417.HAA06131@fugazi.torchsong.com>

    I read in entertainment weekly that korn's singer is going to co-write the orchestral score for anne rice's queen of the damned. Aside from writing the orchestral score, he will also help write the tunes that lestat is going to be "singing" in his rockstar character..

    Any anne rice fans here? what do you think? Isnt the lestat character supposed to be an 80's type metal singer? With the korn dude on the helm it sounds like he's probably going to be a rapcore kind of modern thing ...

    And to korn fans...i never knew this guy had any composing talents (as in having enough to write an orchestral score!)

    Whatcha think?!

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:54:38 -0700 From: David Dixon <dixon@iisweb.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: rice and korn Message-ID: <A65ADB6BE999D3118F650008C7E6175202A1831A@MESSAGING>

    > i never knew this guy had any composing talents

    I never knew Jonathan Davis had any talent at all (other than playing bagpipes moderately well)... :)

    David

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:08:09 -0300 From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: rice and korn Message-ID: <000701bfd21c$245c28c0$37351ec8@yunque.net>

    My thoughts exactly, but i didnt want to rouse the closet korn fans we might have on the list :)

    ----- Original Message ----- ]From: David Dixon <dixon@iisweb.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:03 PM Subject: RE: rice and korn

    > > > i never knew this guy had any composing talents > > I never knew Jonathan Davis had any talent at all (other than playing > bagpipes moderately well)... :) > > David

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    Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:09:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org> To: The Dance of Ytinrete <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Completely un-DTC Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.21.0006091140060.25217-100000@gs.bass.org>

    Merlo, re Jazz is Dead: >Whoa! Why haven't I heard of this yet? Can I find this in Tower, or >do I need to order it?

    You should be able to find either of their albums in the retail outlet near you. As to why you haven't heard of it, dunno. Been in a cave for the past two years?

    >Help me solve it and win a doughnut.

    I hope you wouldn't force it into an envelope and mail it. Or if you do, make sure it's one of those jelly-filled ones--an extra treat for those overworked postal employees.

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    Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 18:41:33 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Korg's nervous breakdown Message-ID: <39411E3D.BFA44F84@mol.com.mk>

    Some of the infos on that prog list were pretty interesting even for an odd bunch of whiners like jammers, so I allowed myself to copy a lil' bit of more KB in here. :) As I see, it was a mistake, A HUGE one: the jam dissapeared for few days, Testa miss it already, people start asking about the weather in Macedonia and all kinds of weird stuff. I did wrote introduction, saying what I will copy in that post.

    For those who care: It gets down to -20 Celsius and +45 in summer, in Macedonia.

    > From: "Ricardo Testa" <ricardotesta@hotmail.com> > > Am I the only one?

    You are not the only one dude, you are The One. :)

    P.S. TIBOR FROM HUNGARY! Yo, over here. Say, let's make some jammers gathering in Budapest on the 19-th during the daytime? Totikus confidentlly told me he struggled about either seeing DT or classical Chmajkfoski concerto, and chose the second. That leaves 4 of us, without that looser. So, how about it?

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