YTSEJAM Digest 5525

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Date: Tue Jun 27 2000 - 19:24:03 EDT


                            YTSEJAM Digest 5525

Today's Topics:

  1) Categorilogicalization
 by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
  2) Swedes vs. Finns
 by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
  3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5520
 by DoubleJay54@aol.com
  4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5524
 by Fett2002@aol.com
  5) Re: Hasselhoff/Marino
 by Fett2002@aol.com
  6) clarification
 by "Matthew Tedesco" <Matthew.Tedesco@colorado.edu>
  7) My solosongs at MP3.COM, download them for FREE !!
 by "Marcel Coenen" <mcoenen@home.nl>
  8) label
 by "Scott Weaver" <mightycow007@hotmail.com>
  9) My 2 /.'..c\e]n[t]s]//.,><
 by Billy920@webtv.net
 10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5524
 by mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
 11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5520
 by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
 12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5524
 by mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
 13) Minneapolis Show
 by Pam Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
 14) Re: Minneapolis Show
 by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
 15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5524
 by "Dan McCormack" <demccor@clemson.edu>
 16) Re: SyX - V
 by Oddvar Lovaas <flail@online.no>
 17) Definitions of Porg
 by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
 18) Re: Definitions of Porg
 by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
 19) Quest Club in Minneapolis....general seating ?
 by MentalHunk@aol.com
 20) Re: Quest Club in Minneapolis....general seating ?
 by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
 21) Re: Definitions of Porg
 by elmariachi@metallica.com
 22) Haha
 by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
 23) David Hasselhoff
 by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
 24) Re: Edward Mulhare
 by Dgnr8rock@aol.com
 25) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5524
 by Dustro2@aol.com
 26) Interview with Jim Matheos of Fates Warning now up on Progeny!
 by "Tony De Laender" <progeny@village.uunet.be>
 27) Re: Haha
 by "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
 28) Re: David Hasselhoff
 by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
 29) Labels
 by rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com>

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:24:03 -0400
From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Categorilogicalization
Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000627234535.00a99d20@cs.millersville.edu>

Mike C wrote:

>Every musical description should probably get dropped. Why do people feel the
>unending need to catagorize everything?

Categories are the easiest way to communicate the style of something
without a person actually hearing it. Imagine, if you will, how many fewer
rap CDs would be sold if there weren't a set-aside 'RAP/R&B/HIP-HOP'
section in the local record shop. Most music fans aren't about to search
through an entire record store, pouring through liner notes, trying to
identify something they've never heard of. It would put a significant
damper on 'impulse buying'.

On a personal level, I have to use categories all the time. A couple of
months ago, I became metal director at WIXQ, my university's radio
station. Every week, the record companies send out a crapload of promo CDs
(50% poop, 30% mediocre, 20% decent to good), which I have to review and,
assuming it passes the 'not-awful' test, add to the station's catalog for
airplay purposes. I use the Sharpie-on-the-back approach, so I'm usually
limited to descriptions of a very brief nature. Without our handy
sub-subgenre labels, we'd have considerably less airplay of the
non-mainstream titles. Without the word "progmetal" ("art metal" if you
prefer) written on the back, most casual Dream Theater fans would not know
the new Ivory Tower disc, "Beyond The Stars", is quite possibly up their
alley (assuming you don't mind near-DT-clone bands, I recommend
it). Result: no airplay for Ivory Tower; Ivory Tower goes bankrupt, has to
sell their children to the gypsies or black market, and eventually part
with all non-essential internal organs and fluids. All because progmetal
fans did not know they were a progmetal band. Of course, this is a bad
example, because only a progmetal band would have an album cover featuring
marble statues floating in space.

It'd be nice if everybody was so up on every band that we could toss out
the whole concept of music labeling, if only to stop the endless "what is
prog?" cycle on the Dream Theater mailing lists. The reality of it is,
though, that there are just too many bands in this great world of ours to
NOT divide them up into easy to remember groups.

Categories : use them, don't abuse them.

Brian
Infraclass: Eutheria

[NP...Ten Jinn -- As On A Darkling Plain]

==============================================
WB Henderson [wbhender@cs.millersville.edu]
Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio): http://ahp.musicpage.com/
WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:16:43 -0700
From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Swedes vs. Finns
Message-ID: <39598A3B.5F6E6C78@ucla.edu>

> Sweden and (most of) i'ts citizens are, and will always be superior to
> anything even remotely connected to Finland.

Hockey aside, Sweden is more known for good massages and tall, blonde,
leggy women.
But Finland has op777, and he sent me DT shirts from the last concert so
I can't complain too much.

~~Amanda

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:31:58 EDT
From: DoubleJay54@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5520
Message-ID: <5f.72a2018.268ae7ce@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/26/00 2:38:08 AM Central Daylight Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

<< KorgX3 wonders if there is a cure for Sweden. >>
Fuck You

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:32:10 EDT
From: Fett2002@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5524
Message-ID: <98.6ec904d.268ae7da@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/28/00 12:31:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

<< The semi in Night Rider was named Goliath, owned Garth the evil David
Hasselhoff.
 
 My god! What have I just done??? Sorry folks, a bit of geek regression.
>>

Hey, remember "Carr"??? He was the evil version of Kitt!!!
                                                -mike C.

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:35:17 EDT
From: Fett2002@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Hasselhoff/Marino
Message-ID: <e0.652f24d.268ae895@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/28/00 12:31:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

>> }I actually believe that Hasselhoff is related to US
>> }football's Dan Marino.
>> }Look at them, they look alike.
 
>I have always thought this. Someday when there's a TV movie made
>about Marino's life, they should get Hasselhoff to play Dan the Man.
  
Hell, Hasselhoff is probably a better football player right now that Marino.
At the very least, I'm sure his arm strength is stonger!
                                                -mike C.

NP: the 99 Miami Dolphins highlight tape.......BWAHAAHAHHAHAA!!!!!

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:10:12 -0600
From: "Matthew Tedesco" <Matthew.Tedesco@colorado.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: clarification
Message-ID: <005701bfe0c7$859f8140$84598a80@fx1f00b>

Just to be clear... I mentioned several times in my post that I was speaking
of the average person's definition of the color blue. So, I'm not sure what
you're disagreeing with; there was never a point where I said that there was
*no* definition. That would be clearly false. What you offered is true
enough, but irrelevant to what I said, as the physicist's definition doesn't
apply to the average person.

That said, I agree that using the term "art rock" is problably more
straight-forward and less ambiguous. However, you're right again when you
say that it seems strange to lump DT in as something like "art metal"... so
the problem still remains, yes?

> From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
> >
> > But push them still further, asking, "I don't want to know what blue is
> > LIKE, or what it reminds me of; I want a definition of blue ITSELF," and
I
> > don't think many people would know how to respond. It'd be wrong to
> > suggest, though, that because of this they don't know what blue is.
And,
>
> I disagree. There is one true definition of "blue", and it has
> something to do with frequencies of light waves. (I work around
> physicists. :) However, as we've seen here in the last couple
> digests, there apparently is no one true definition of "progressive
> rock".
>

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:12:13 +0200
From: "Marcel Coenen" <mcoenen@home.nl>
To: "Marcel Coenen (werk)" <marcel.coenen@libertel-vs.nl>
Subject: My solosongs at MP3.COM, download them for FREE !!
Message-ID: <LPBBIMCPNELAACOLJFFBAEFCCBAA.mcoenen@home.nl>

Hello all,

Please download some FREE tracks of mine at MP3.COM, the tracks featured
there are from my solo-CD which is also for sale at MP3.COM, also tracks
from my first SOLODEMO are there NOW !! So please take a look and download
some songs.

The URL to go to my artist Page directly is:

http://www.mp3.com/marcelcoenen

Cheers !!

Marcel

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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:21:26 PDT
From: "Scott Weaver" <mightycow007@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: label
Message-ID: <20000628062126.43343.qmail@hotmail.com>

"they could call it "tomato" and it would still only be a label for
that style of music"

I think that there should be a campaign started to call Progressive music
"tomato." I think it would confuse a lot of people and possibly increase
sales of DT albums. People would go to a store to geta dozen tomatos and
walk out with 12 copies of SFAM, and they wouldn't know what the hell was
going on.

As for the Hasselhoff thing, It was one of Lisa Simpson's first words so I
figure that has to account for most of his popularity throughout the world.

"That's my story and I'm sticking with it".

Scott

"A tout le monde, A tout mes amis
Je vous aime, Je dois partir,
These are the last word's I'll ever speak,
Now set me Freeeeeeeee."
-Megadeth

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:16:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Billy920@webtv.net
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: My 2 /.'..c\e]n[t]s]//.,><
Message-ID: <28868-3959A635-26@storefull-173.iap.bryant.webtv.net>

Howdy Folks,
First on the Hasselhoff thing.Knight Rider had the chance to be
successful everywhere else because it was a success here in the States.
(not being patriotic...follow me a minute)
Look at the Dukes of Hazard and other countless tv shows and movies in
which the "STAR" is a car, which happens to be driven by a handsome man
who's been "in trouble with the law since the day he was born", and
you'll see its a perfect combination, Men want to see fast cars and ass
kicking, women want to see men. It's a plot line almost as old and
tired as
"Framed for a murder he didn't commit" (and oh the humanity when these
plot lines merge, ever see Hardcastle and McCormick?)
Now how does Hasselhoff transcend all to become Demi-god? By using that
and another far more ancient marketng ploy. Half naked women. "Nuff said
By using his smarts and some balls (like buying the show from the
hangman like an earlier poster mentioned)
he transmuted cheese into gold, and bought a Stairway to Heaven or at
least a red carpet to Europe.
Finally, I apologize for what I'm about to type,because I mean no
disrespect to the person who brought this up, but I am so fucking tired
of the "A Prog by any other name would JAM as progressi(on)vly" idea
that labels aren't needed to describe music. That's like going to see a
movie just based on a title. Even if the whole can't agree on a
particular definition for the label, a broad description at least is
needed for marketing purposes. Yes you can call it anythng you wan't,
but I think progressive music is close enough for hoseshoes. It's
progressive in the sense that it moves forward ( the genre will drag
under it's wheels the bandwagon jumpers) and it's unquestionably Music.
or it could be that I have insomnia and just read the last 3 JAMs
consecutively. Whatever.
BTW that Blue analogy kicked a thought or two.
                                             PEACE!!
                                   Billy.
"They're just words they don't hurt nobody,
Fuckety FuckFuck Fuck !! SEE?"
 -Eric Cartman
np Squirrel Nut Zippers-- Put a Lid On It
(it's kinda like little rascals music)

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:54:08 +1000
From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5524
Message-ID: <3959BD2F.5A1AE05B@alphalink.com.au>

 Nah art rock is stupid.
 That applies to every type of rock music that puts an emphasis on art (whatever
that is). Which probably cuts out dance and political orientated music, but leaves
in everything from Nirvana to Enya to Jimi Hendrix to Limp Biskit.

> I like "art rock" more and more. It infers everything I wish people
> to understand about my stuff, and leaves very little room for false
> interpretation.

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:09:46 -0600
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5520
Message-ID: <003101bfe0e0$9ed1a9e0$580d84d0@korg>

> Fuck You

No thanks, my pants are already full. Try again in an hour. Next?

--
KorgX3, 77 year old seaweed farmer.

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:04:20 +1000 From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5524 Message-ID: <3959BF93.71175846@alphalink.com.au>

> > Nope...some of us can't afford DVD. ALso, more speakers means more > > things that could and will get broken and then I'd have to pay even > > more money to get fixed. Then again a Shitallica DVD is the last > > thing in the world to entice me to get something. > > Well, first of all, if you didn't treat your equipment like shit and/or > don't buy shit equipment to begin with, it wouldn't break in the first > place. > > Secondly, why not save and get DVD? As of right now, the prices aren't > too much different for DVD movies from VHS, and the you can get a player > for between 200 and 350 dollars. Besides, when the Playstation 2 comes > out, you can get that! :)

Save money by buying something? Thats a new concept. Some of us can't afford a DVD player. I would say pretty much all of us already have a VHS player.

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:49:51 -0500 From: Pam Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Minneapolis Show Message-ID: <l03020901b57fa378e1fe@[209.224.35.254]>

>Don't get me wrong, I'm damn happy to see my favorite band, but >does it have to be the same night as Ozzfest? But it will be great to see >Dream Theater in a small club. > >Andy

I totaly agree with Andy. I live only a few blocks from where ozzfest will be held, and I go every year. But of course I will drive into the big city to see DT instead of walking to see Pantera, Seven Dust, etc.

Pam

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:15:16 -0500 From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Minneapolis Show Message-ID: <B57F6494.64EF%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>

on 6/28/00 7:57 AM, Pam Nazer at mnazer@pressenter.com scribbled in vibrant crayola:

> >> Don't get me wrong, I'm damn happy to see my favorite band, but >> does it have to be the same night as Ozzfest? But it will be great to see >> Dream Theater in a small club. >> >> Andy > > I totaly agree with Andy. I live only a few blocks from where ozzfest will > be held, and I go every year. But of course I will drive into the big city > to see DT instead of walking to see Pantera, Seven Dust, etc.

You're a Somerseter eh? I hate that town...two years ago at Ozzfest a bunch of people there set up signs saying "Parking Here" back on those roads by the railroad tracks/watertower. Cops cruised by smiling at us all the whole time, not saying a word...come out later to find every single one of those cars towed, apparently there's an ordinance that you can't park on city streets on the day of a concert even if it's a place where you could normally park. Personally, I think those cops should all be in jail for letting it go on (since they did allow an illegal act to take place - people setting up a "parking lot" where they weren't supposed to), but what are you gonna do. The whole fuckin town is corrupt, cops and judges and citizens (well, maybe not all the citizens, I only have experience with a few of them :)). And to boot nobody would tell us where our cars were...we all had to walk to all three towing places, two of which are miles out of town, to check. Assholes.

Sorry, I still need to vent over that one every now and then. :)

-Brian

--

They'll take you to Cloughprior and shove you in the ground, but you stick your head back out and shout, "We'll have another round"

-Shane MacGowan

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:43:12 -0500 From: "Dan McCormack" <demccor@clemson.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5524 Message-ID: <008701bfe10f$30d57dc0$72003c80@zonai.net>

]From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5524

> > Secondly, why not save and get DVD? As of right now, the prices aren't > > too much different for DVD movies from VHS, and the you can get a player > > for between 200 and 350 dollars. Besides, when the Playstation 2 comes > > out, you can get that! :) > > Save money by buying something? Thats a new concept. > Some of us can't afford a DVD player. I would say pretty much all of us already > have a VHS player.

you are a silly person. he meant, "why not save up and get a DVD?" he then proceeded to enumerate the reasons why it is worth saving up for. moo.

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:27:41 +0200 From: Oddvar Lovaas <flail@online.no> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: SyX - V Message-ID: <200006281429.QAA23969@mail49.fg.online.no>

>> This is at least what the unofficial site says. >> (http://listen.to/teof) >I believe there was a notice on The Edge of Forever stating that it >is (or is in the process of becoming) the official site.

That's right -- although the site hasn't been updated in ages!

< flail - Oddvar Lovaas - http://www.oddvar.org/ - ICQ: 3253879 >

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:33:02 -0400 From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Definitions of Porg Message-ID: <NEBBIHDFALHOPNNPNHKNGEDLCAAA.szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>

}> I would like to submit that people should go back to using }> the term "art rock" rather than progressive. It is more }> indicative of what the sound actually is.

This is a great idea. I'm going to start doing this, too.

}Of course, I'd kinda feel like a dork calling Dream Theater "art }metal".

Good point. Never mind. :)

}> Freakin' Tracy Chapman, Indigo Girls, the Lick Sisters, } }The Lick Sisters, huh? They have any videos out? :)

Funniest goddamn thing I've read in a while. :D

}You see, there was a band there, which is one of the primary }reasons I went. (The free barbecue was the other. Grad }students + free food = good attendance.) I walked up to one }of the band members as they were setting up, and asked what kind }of stuff they'd be playing. "Progressive rock", the guy said. }I just about dropped one right there. "Really!? Do you do any }covers?" "Oh, yeah, all covers." "No kidding! Like Supper's }Ready, or Crimson King, or what?" "Huh? What's that stuff?" }"Uh... er... well, um, what do you play?" "You know. Cracker. }Wilco. <other bands I can't remember the names of now, in the }same genre>." So close, yet so far.

You know, I went through something similar about...(jeez, I'm getting old) 8 or 9 years ago. I started dating a girl and inevitably the question came up, "What kind of music are you into?" Imagine my shock and delight when she replied, "Progressive." I was heavily into Rush (this was on the eve of my discovering Dream Theater) so i said, "Hey, so am I. I'm a big fan of Rush and Kansas and stuff." She said, "Oh I haven't heard much by them" She then went on to inform me that her favorite bands were the Cranberries and 10,000 Maniacs. WTF? It turns out, her radio station of choice was 99.1 WHFS - the WORST radio station in the land, if only for the fact that they so arrogantly posture themselves to be free-form, even though they are just a typical, corporate alternative/rock station. Anyway, it seems a lot of HFS listeners believe that they like "progressive" music because that is the label with which the station described itself so many years ago. It seems a whole generation of people also got used to this label as well.

Subsequently, she disliked Rush, HATED Dream Theater, and would demand that i turn them off anytime we were in the car together (MY car, I might add). After 4 years, i couldn't take it anymore, and i dumped the bitch. :)

To this day, I will maim anyone who uses "progressive" to mean "alternative." :P

}> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:18:17 CEST }> From: "Ricardo Testa" <ricardotesta@hotmail.com> }> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5521 }> }> I am sorry Krog, but I have never "jammed" with David }>Hasselhoff. But I did "jam" with Edward Mulhare. } }Is your computer that far from home, that you have to drop }such a long trail of names to find your way back?

Second funniest goddamn thing I've read in a while. :D

}> I am sorry Krog, but I have never "jammed" with David }Hasselhoff. But }> I did "jam" with Edward Mulhare. }-- }KorgX3 wonders if he needs to change his nick to Kruzweil.

HA! Third funnies--well, you get the idea.

Zteve S

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:46:35 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Definitions of Porg Message-ID: <004301bfe10f$b376ce50$0201010a@chuck>

> the term "art rock" rather than progressive. It is more > indicative of what the sound actually is.

Here's an idea I think we can flesh out. Why don't we call it "butt rock." Considering that most of the teenage, "progressive" music-listening, barbecue-eating bastards call it that already, it would cause alot less confusion and make us sound that much less pretentious. What d'ya think? :) -- KorgX3 is the Anti-Barbecue. NP: Sting - Sister Moon.mp3

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:13:38 EDT From: MentalHunk@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Quest Club in Minneapolis....general seating ? Message-ID: <75.6156c4b.268b7022@aol.com>

Does anyone know if the Quest club in Minneapolis is just general admission seating for the DT show on August 12th ????? I have to drive 100 miles to get tickets if its not, so its good for me to know if it won't matter anyway....,

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:23:25 -0500 From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Quest Club in Minneapolis....general seating ? Message-ID: <B57F829D.6505%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>

It's GA on the floor, standing room only. I think there may be a couple tables up on the balcony, but I'm not positive, I haven't been up there. If there are, I don't know if you need tickets for that area or just need to be early and get seated. Sorry to be such a pinnacle of surety. ;P

-Brian

> Does anyone know if the Quest club in Minneapolis is just general admission > seating for the DT show on August 12th ????? > I have to drive 100 miles to get tickets if its not, so its good for me to > know if it won't matter anyway....,

--

A great man I know is dead and while he lies in his coffin a gone flame I sit here in cumbering shadows and smoke and watch my thoughts come and go.

-Carl Sandburg, "Crimson"

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Date: 28 Jun 2000 10:23:22 -0700 From: elmariachi@metallica.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Definitions of Porg Message-ID: <20000628172322.23584.cpmta@c003.sfo.cp.net>

Definition of "porg?"

The OTHER white music.

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:22:16 -0400 From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Haha Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000628151444.00aa3100@cs.millersville.edu>

I suspect a lot of you are familiar with Puya, the excellent metal/Latin "fusion" band from Puerto Rico. (If not, you should be. There's a band that's doing something very few others are doing, in the US-market at any rate.) Check out who's listed as a "similar artist" on allmusic.com.

Alright, for those of you that don't feel like looking yourselves, one of those "similar artists" is James LaBrie. Makes sense...

Brian

[NP...Always Almost -- God Pounds His Nails]

============================================== WB Henderson [wbhender@cs.millersville.edu] Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio): http://ahp.musicpage.com/ WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com ==============================================

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:26:08 -0500 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: David Hasselhoff Message-ID: <20000628.143314.-122913.1.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>

Why does 50 percent of the jam have to be about this man?

Kurt

"damn I need a new signature now" me after reading ytsejam 5456

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:24:47 EDT From: Dgnr8rock@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Edward Mulhare Message-ID: <7e.6e07d4e.268baaff@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/28/00 12:39:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

<< > Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:18:17 CEST > From: "Ricardo Testa" <ricardotesta@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5521 > > I am sorry Krog, but I have never "jammed" with David Hasselhoff. But I did > "jam" with Edward Mulhare. >>

I seriously doubt this. As a matter of fact, I know it's not true. You see, I live in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. And, Edward Mulhare actually happens to be a neighbor of mine. He's a realy nice guy and once in a while we go do 18 holes or go out fishing in the Gulf Stream together. He lives here with his Daughter Emily and her husband Doug. They're great people, they really are. But anyway, he says he's never heard of you. He's lived a long life and says he could be mistaken but he certainly does NOT play any instrument so it's very unlikely that he's jammed with ANYONE. Of course, the possibility exists that perhaps you were just trying to make a joke and figured that no on this list could ever possibly verify your claim one way or another but you thought wrong. Anyway, have a nice day everyone... Buck Hamner

NP: Skaface- Horns of Timeliness

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:26:48 EDT From: Dustro2@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5524 Message-ID: <c4.5a99e48.268bab78@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/27/00 11:31:47 PM Central Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:

<< believe there was a notice on The Edge of Forever stating that it is (or is in the process of becoming) the official site. >> yes it will be the official site as soon as MR confirms it...Russel allready said that it will be.. dustro

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:18:50 +0200 From: "Tony De Laender" <progeny@village.uunet.be> To: "E-Prog Mailing List" <e-prog@egroups.com>, Subject: Interview with Jim Matheos of Fates Warning now up on Progeny! Message-ID: <001b01bfe13e$38d0e760$b701bed4@be027612>

Hi all,

I thought some of you might be interested in this. Click the link below, then go to the "interviews" section. Enjoy!

ps: while you're there, don't forget to sign the guestbook. Thanks.

prog 'em -- Tony De Laender Editor, Progeny Magazine

http://gallery.uunet.be/progeny/

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:46:43 -0300 From: "Carlos Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Haha Message-ID: <000901bfe139$95fc7940$37351ec8@yunque.net>

LOL Yeah, puya is good, but their style is very played out in PR already.. There are lot of bands doing the same thing here..

]From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>

> > I suspect a lot of you are familiar with Puya, the excellent metal/Latin > "fusion" band from Puerto Rico. (If not, you should be. There's a band > that's doing something very few others are doing, in the US-market at any > rate.) Check out who's listed as a "similar artist" on allmusic.com. > > Alright, for those of you that don't feel like looking yourselves, one of > those "similar artists" is James LaBrie. Makes sense...

>

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:41:57 -0600 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: David Hasselhoff Message-ID: <001501bfe141$54375720$0201010a@chuck>

KurtX3 cut and pasted: >Subject: David Hasselhoff> > Why does 50 percent of the jam have to be about this man?

OK, then let's get a new mascot, Mr. Poopypants.

I hear Elian Gonzalez is currently taking a magic plane ride back to Cuba. :) Doh! Not Elian again!

It's about damned time. I hear Castro has fallen in favor from Satan for letting the boy escape and a ritual sacrifice is his only means of repentance. I hate to see anyone fall from grace. Raise the knife, Fidel! -- KorgX3 doesn't know whether to be happy or feel sorry for Elian. Oh, well. He's not our problem anymore. :) NP: Faith No More - Angel Dust

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:12:48 -0700 (PDT) From: rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Labels Message-ID: <20000628211248.2226.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com>

I too hate labels of music. Progressive means different things to different people. Look at "alternative". How alternative is music thats on the radio? Or "industrial", I never understood that. When some friends of mine were talking about industrial music, I thought it would sound like boiler rooms and paper mills. I look forward to the day when music is just music, not all these categories(yeah, right).

===== Rob Denni 1657-B Elm Ct. Ft. Gordon, GA 30905 (706) 790-8937 Go visit my website! http://home.talkcity.com/HeadbangersHwy/funkygroove/index.html

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