YTSEJAM Digest 5472
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5470
by Cluck42@aol.com
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5470
by Cluck42@aol.com
3) what's the scoop on Angra?
by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
4) Re: Dream T. Video Live Atlanta ** DAT mixed
by Mauricio <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
5) Pain of Pronunciation
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5470
by "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
7) a frightening thought/PWI
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
8) Vai, Jadis, Rush, ...
by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
9) Re: Vai, Jadis, Rush, ...
by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
10) Re: DT's weakest poll results
by Andreas Skarin - SDTS <sdts@sdts.nu>
11) Pronunciation
by Matthew Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
12) Re(2): recording from a commercial video.....
by "Nissinen Tommi"
13) Re: NDTC - "Metal God"
by JamesAhab@aol.com
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5468
by Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5470
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
16) Re: freedom of speech (non-LTE)
by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
17) US boots 2000
by VolkerWStephan@aol.com
18) Re: what's the scoop on Angra?
by "Graham B" <graham@renegade2K.com>
19) Re: Labrie = Leonardo da Vinci
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
20) Audio stuff (PC - Stereo)
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
21) Re:YTSEJAM digest 5468
by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
22) Action taken by Napster
by Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:15:20 EDT
From: Cluck42@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5470
Message-ID: <ae.4d3cb64.264a0418@aol.com>
In a message dated 5/9/00 3:46:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< > > >and my dream is to have a prog band of my own (but who wants a female
> > >prog singer?)
>
> [big list snipped]
>>
hey- did anyone mention par lindh project? female singer, great prog band.
ROSE ALAIMO
cluck42@aol.com
"Our deeds have traveled far, what we have been is what we are."
-Dream Theater
"She yells for me, not at me."
-SRV about his guitar
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:19:44 EDT
From: Cluck42@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5470
Message-ID: <29.4dfa169.264a0520@aol.com>
In a message dated 5/9/00 3:46:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< Hello everybody...
I have problem... Tell me, native speakers, how should i pronounce DT
bassist's surname?
Thank ya!
>>
"MY" like the word "MY" and "UNG" like in "YOUNG" "MY-UNG" :)
hope that helped!
ROSE
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Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 17:26:15 -0700
From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: what's the scoop on Angra?
Message-ID: <B53DFAB7.147%schansen@cts.com>
Been a while since I've checked out the latest with Angra, but can someone
gimme the scoop as to what happened to Angra and Andre? I'm guessing Andre
left due to the direction they were headed in with the last album - is this
correct? How long ago did he split and what are the rest of the guys gonna
do now?
Setlist Scotty
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Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 19:29:54 -0600
From: Mauricio <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Dream T. Video Live Atlanta ** DAT mixed
Message-ID: <4.3.1.1.20000509192726.00a8c910@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
this is a video right? is the video quality good? ......the audio is=20
DAT....so it sounds nice, but what about the screen shots and all that=
stuff?
i=B4m interested......
i have dt=B4s xmas cd=B4s.....some other dt boots, and a symphony x boot=20
(originals...MOST of them)
Mauricio
At 04:09 PM 9/05/00 -0700, you wrote:
>I just got a hold of Dream Theater live in Atlanta. Mixed with DAT
>recording. Sounds real nice.
>from the 3-1-00 show.
>
>Email me if you are interested.
>
>vaiman@bellsouth.net
>
>I also got some Vai or QR to trade.
>
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Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 17:42:08 PDT
From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Pain of Pronunciation
Message-ID: <20000510004208.28663.qmail@hotmail.com>
All members of DT, past and present, have names that are pronounced
phonetically, with the exceptions of John Myung (pronounced my YOUNG, but so
fast that it's almost like one sylable) and Charlie Dominici (pronounced
"Dominisee", not DomiNeeChee)
Hope That Helps ya'll
-Fran
np: Pain Of Salvation- One Hour by the Concrete Lake (just picked it up, and
HOLY WOW! I haven't been this blown away by a band since...well, since went
to my first moe. show three weeks ago, but...=^). They have a more modern
sound than Dream Theater, mixing prog with death & goth influences rather
than Metallica-style metal...much more theatrical than DT, too (I didn't
know it was possible!). I can't wait to hear Entropia, if it's supposed to
be so much better....
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:45:19 -0400
From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5470
Message-ID: <001301bfba19$0567ca20$0200010a@steve>
> And incidentally (amusingly enough), the Bill of Rights
*was* a change to
> the Constitution. You see, those archaic slaveowners
considered the
> possibility that their document might need to adapt to the
times, and
> supplied a prcedure to adapt it *right in the document*.
Amazing that they
> had that much foresight, huh?
No shit, sherlock. It's still 200 years old. Jeez...
> In the late 19th, and early 20th century, ideas like equal
rights,
> and NON-xenophobic propaganda, were considered DANGEROUS
and criminal.
That's a good point, but still, that's almost 100 years ago.
> Lemme put it like this. You may think you are fighting the
neo-nazis by
> suppressing their pamphlets and books, but all you're
really doing is BEING
> EXACTLY LIKE THEM!
Bull-fucking-shit. If I'm going to hate someone, I'm not
going to hate him because of his race or religion or sexual
preference or what neighborhood he comes from or what color
bandana he wears. That's Nazism (or neo-Nazism or racism or
whatever). I hate people for something MUCH more dangerous
than that: what they THINK and what they DO - things that
have the potential to do harm to others.
There's a HUGE difference between INCLUSIVE policies and
EXCLUSIVE policies. Women fought for the right to be
included in the process of American Government, and they
won. They fought long enough and they won. What if the KKK
fights long enough?
Steve Z
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:54:25 -0400
From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: a frightening thought/PWI
Message-ID: <35A7D40B978CD311AF05002048404D34011BFC16@wm2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
>> > From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
>> > Subject: Pink Floyd: The Wall Live
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Marky Mark
>>
>> Oh, that's a frightening thought. :)
Yeah, I grew back some hair, lost the gut and bought a penis extender. And
now for my career move. I will now scrap this Japanese telecommunications
bullshit and model tiger-striped underwear for Calvin Klien. Hide the women
and children - hehehehe !!!!
Grrrrrrrrrrrr,
The Dirkster
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:18:33 -0400
From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Vai, Jadis, Rush, ...
Message-ID: <20000509211833.A29754@optical.mindstorm.com>
On 2000-05-09 at 17:27 -0700, ytsejam@torchsong.com
<ytsejam@torchsong.com> truly believed:
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:16:40 EDT
> From: EvoReaper@aol.com
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5469
>
> I think the main reason people suggest Passion And Warfare is because it's
> the cd that revolutioned guitar playing for years to come, when that came
> out, everyone went, "HUH?", the title is perfect for the record. I think
I have an alternate theory. When that album came out, guitar
magazines were awesome, MTV was awesome, and radio was awesome. Steve
had just come off the DLR thing, and was into the Whitesnake thing,
and *everyone* knew it, and everyone appreciated it. Not to mention,
there was that three-month teaser ad in all the guitar mags (you
remember, right? Month 1, the top third of the album cover, month 2,
the bottom third...), and basically, no one could shut up about the
guy. Kinda like the late 90s and the BackSpice Sync Girls, except
that there was a reason to go out and buy P&W.
> lately Steve has really tapped into his guitar tone and the over-all
> knowledge of what he wants in songs, also his sense of melody has gone
> through the roof.
I still maintain that as good a guitarist as he is, his best gift is
for capturing sounds on tape.
---> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 17:36:13 -0400 > From: "Tim Detman" <td4235@ship.edu> > Subject: Metallica's integrity for sale on eBay > > i'm not the one selling this, i did find it pretty damn funny for some > reason: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=327448958
What's probably a lot funnier is that by the time the digest hit my mailbox, the item had been pulled. :)
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> Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:29:44 +0200 > From: "Tibor Varady 2.0" <lawinen@freemail.hu> > Subject: Halford vs Ripper > > I would say that Metallica to Halford is like Zep to Britney!
(searching for Tibor-to-English dictionary...) I'm sorry, could you rephrase that please?
> No further comments.
Damn.
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> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:40:41 +0100 > From: "Charlie Farrell" <charles.farrell@tesco.net> > Subject: Jadis - Understand / The price of DT T-shirts
(sorry not to have picked up on Brian's original thread...) > Cool to see someone else talking about Jadis - one of my fave neo-prog
I've never heard of these guys, but if they're like IQ, I'm interested. Anyone have a sample so I can figure out what album to get?
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> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 19:41:38 -0400 > From: "Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> > Subject: not again! > > > Normally, I just blow off singers > > being pissed, 'cause they're usually little shits. > > HEY!
You know how you can tell if a singer's at your front door? It's easy. He never knows which key to use, and he never knows when to come in. :)
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> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 19:01:19 -0500 > From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> > Subject: Re: Hey! > > I second that "HEY!" considering it'd be damn difficult to ever sing > anything worse than Geddy Lee has. Shame, Rush would've been a decent band > if he hadn't shrieked like a balless bitch all the time. :)
Such blasphemy shall earn you no brownie points, Mr. Hayden, regardless of how funny it is to see the phrase "shrieked like a balless bitch" in print.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 20:30:08 -0500 From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Vai, Jadis, Rush, ... Message-ID: <B53E25CF.4CFA%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
on 5/9/00 8:25 PM, Digital Man at cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com scribbled in vibrant crayola:
> Such blasphemy shall earn you no brownie points, Mr. Hayden, > regardless of how funny it is to see the phrase "shrieked like a > balless bitch" in print.
Bwahaha! I did that one just to get a rise out of you, D. Man, you're so predictable. :D
-Brian
--
I don't think of Playboy as subscribing to a magazine, more like subscribing to a girlfriend.
-Mike Tereshinski
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 03:56:29 +0200 From: Andreas Skarin - SDTS <sdts@sdts.nu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DT's weakest poll results Message-ID: <3918C1CD.BD987C1B@sdts.nu>
JamesAhab@aol.com wrote:
> too many metalheads on this list who cant appreciate a well-written son= g :)
..or maybe they just don't like it :oP -- Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater S=E4llskapet http://www.sdts.nu - mailto:sdts@sdts.nu
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 19:13:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Pronunciation Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000509190727.27868A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
Andy wrote: <<Let's give it a try-
Pronounce: Dampier
Warm Regards, Andy>>
Well that depends -- are we talking basketball or hockey? Basketball - Damn peer Hockey - Dampey-eh
I've gotten into a bad habit with Myung's name -- I used to (and still do in my mind) pronounce it Me-ung in one syllable. This comes from my hackneyed knowledge of pronouncing Korean names (which I learned from calling said names when they were on the waiting list in the computer lab). Okay, you know too much about my life. But, I *know* Portnoy (who's name I pronounce once as port knee -- I suck) would know better than anybody outside of JohnM's family how to pronounce his name, so I just *know* it's my-young, but DAMMIT I can't say it comfortably.
--Matt "Myung" Johnston
----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Tell me where the fancy bred, by the hearth or in the bed?" --William Shakespeare's 'Kama Sutra' -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: 10 May 2000 06:41:00 +0300 From: "Nissinen Tommi" To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re(2): recording from a commercial video..... Message-ID: <JA8AAAAAAK+DeAABYQADbpMOAcxU@kesko.fi>
>There are 2 boots AFAIK made from the Rotterdam show, they are: >'Nighttime Nostalgia' and 'Once In A Livetime, the way it should be' > >gaz
And i think that Stained Glass (Scarred Records) is also from that show. (sorry, if this has already been told...)
-Tommi
np: OFB/Helsinki, Finland 24/03/00
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:48:42 EDT From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: NDTC - "Metal God" Message-ID: <e8.4294acb.264a361a@aol.com>
theres plenty of info about this movie at the following site:
http://upcomingmovies.com/metalgod.html
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:34:49 -0400 From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5468 Message-ID: <20000510.003453.-888675.1.Axeman_dannl@juno.com>
> if I have a light bulb in Japan and the switch for turning it on in > Spain, how much time will it take from the moment you turn the switch on > until the bulb lights on? :)
the speed of light divided by the length of the wire connecting the switch and the bulb, plus the amount of time it takes the filament to heat up. Assuming your power source is sufficient to handle such a large load.
> I finally love UAGM!!!!! > > I found an AMAZING swing cover at http://go/dtcovers > Sounds like Frank Sinatra on vocals; this is the best > thing since sliced bread!!!!!! Kicks the I&W version up > the street, round the corner and all over town!
Somebody did the same thing with Met. pt 1. It may be on the same site
I went looking for Pain of Salvation yesterday, but couldn't find it, happened across Explorer's Club and got that. KICK ASS!!!
Well, lightning is striking so I guess I better turn this thing off before it gets fried.
-Dan. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 02:23:52 +0000 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5470 Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000510022352.016dfda0@pi-r-squared.com>
>Bull-fucking-shit. If I'm going to hate someone, I'm not >going to hate him because of his race or religion or sexual >preference or what neighborhood he comes from or what color >bandana he wears. That's Nazism (or neo-Nazism or racism or >whatever). I hate people for something MUCH more dangerous >than that: what they THINK and what they DO - things that >have the potential to do harm to others.
What they do...? maybe. What they think..? Hell no! You think the Nazis ONLY hated because of race or religion? One of their primary policies was the exclusion of all people who disagreed with them, or had potential to disagree with them.
In addition to jews, blacks, catholics, gypsies, and other assorted races and religions, the nazis also enacted plans against criminals, the homeless, the disabled, left wing sympathizers, and other "leeches".
There's a lot more than just racism that's scary about the Nazis. The entire notion of a government based on survival of the fittest. The notion that anyone who did not believe what they did was literally a scourge upon humanity, and must be destroyed. That's THOUGHT. They were all about hating, arresting, and killing because of what you THOUGHT.
The notion of suppressing anyone, any thing, any act, and any thought which does not fall in line with your ideal of how the world should be. THAT is nazism. Or do you think they burned all those books because they were jewish literature?
> >There's a HUGE difference between INCLUSIVE policies and >EXCLUSIVE policies.
This is very true. But that doesn't mean I don't have the right to disagree with you if I wanted to.
Palpatine www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/ Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"There is nothing more pragmatic than idealism" -David Mamet
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 02:28:13 +0000 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: freedom of speech (non-LTE) Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000510022813.016b4bd4@pi-r-squared.com>
who is wrong? > > Brad, what you say does make some sense. But keep in mind >that what your stand is also a stand! Absolute freedom of speech >is a choice; it is also judging - that it is *right*.
Hmm.. you have a point. It's a very paradoxical point, that would get us into an endless philosophical loop from hell, but it is a point none-the-less.
Palpatine www.pi-r-squared.com/brad/ Co Founder of NARF: The North Houston Anime Resistance Force, and Historian of Anime-no-kai
"Thank God I'm an atheist" -Luis Bunel
"There is nothing more pragmatic than idealism" -David Mamet
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 03:58:27 EDT From: VolkerWStephan@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: US boots 2000 Message-ID: <c6.4fdc41e.264a70a3@aol.com>
hallo, hallo, I would be intrested in swapping some boots, if anybody has got some of the=20 recent US Met 2000 (or may I say Japan/Korea as well?) shows. I gotta get=20 European shows, which might be intresting for US collectors, cause they=20 played the new European medley on that tour. See the track list below. pleas= e=20 mail to Hififriends@aol.com
new medley: puppies acos 1 just let me breathe=20 acid rain lte=20 web /millenium millenium vers 1 : a single ... web / b1 can =B4t hold on any longer web ch 1 caught in a web millenium vers 2 living out .. b2 how can you keep your head.. web ch2 caught in a web.. instrumetal ciaw millen. ch 3.& 4
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 18:15:16 +1000 From: "Graham B" <graham@renegade2K.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: what's the scoop on Angra? Message-ID: <200005100923.e4A9NhL28617@sampa.simpleweb.com.br>
> Been a while since I've checked out the latest with Angra, but can > someone gimme the scoop as to what happened to Angra and Andre? I'm > guessing Andre left due to the direction they were headed in with the > last album - is this correct? How long ago did he split and what are > the rest of the guys gonna do now?
Whoever started this crap is full of it, Angra have not, re NOT split. Andre is taking time to do a side project with Sacsha Paeth. There will not be a new Angra album untill sometime in 2001.
gaz
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 09:51:07 +0100 From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Labrie = Leonardo da Vinci Message-ID: <391922FB.C538BBAD@picsel.com>
Gilberto Bressan Junior wrote: > Magna Carta will release on August a cd called "Leonardo - The Absolute > Man", an opera-rock wirtten & directed by Trent Gardner. > > Cast of Characters:
[snip]
Sigh - that's what I hate about these fucking rock operas. How the hell can you have an proper opera with only one woman? I get sick of listening to a thousand different men singing at the same time with hardly any females to provide a contrast.
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 04:04:28 -0500 From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Audio stuff (PC - Stereo) Message-ID: <3919261C.E5E35BDD@isd.net>
CyberDuke wrote: >Hey, while on the topic, .. my fine stereo is in the living room and my >PC in my room. I want to connect them so that I can listen the mp3s on >my stereo and also rip somehting on the PC from the stereo. Since >messing around with music in part of my life I think this is a must be. >No, I can't bring the 2 devices on same location so I gotta do it like >this. >I just wanted to ask of I will have interefernces or signal loss , since >the distance is ummm maybe 7-9 meters. I don't think, but I'd relly on a >professional opinion too. So?
Mike Pelarski (AKA Jay Omega) wrote: >I really wouldn't think so, unless you're dealing with a truly piss- >poor sound card (low sensitivity or input impedance). The cable and >the line-level source really shouldn't matter. You'll most likely have >an order of magnitude more noise from the soundcard itself than from >a little 30-foot cable run.
Long cable runs can certainly cause problems. If the cable capacitance is high, (Greater than 20pf per foot) things get rather ugly once you compound the TOTAL capacitance of a long cable run. You've inadvertently installed a low pass filter in the signal path. And then there is the DC resistance per foot to consider... Usually negligible at the input and output impedance he's dealing with. Most modern quality sound cards are fairly quiet, all things considered...
Since the Dukester's more than likely dealing with 3.5 mm stereo phone plugs at the sound card, he's first going to deal with the transformation to RCA plugs. I'd recommend really short 3.5 mm stereo phone plug *to* RCA female adapter cables. (Stereo) Then I'd save bucks by having someone knowledgeable and skilled with a soldering pencil install GOOD RCA male plugs on the desired length of HIGH QUALITY cable. I'd recommend Belden 1694A. Type RG-6 (Or equiv.) Click on the provided link and look at the bottom of the page for "Specify by Trade Number." Then enter the number 1694A. The cable specifications will be provided on data sheet. THIS IS A VERY GOOD AUDIO CABLE AT ANY REASONABLE LENGTH! http://www.belden.com/products/Catalog/index.htm
The cable cost should be about $40.00 - $70.00 USD. (120' - 30'x4) Add $16.00 for (8) acceptable RCA plugs. You may have to hunt around a little to find a retailer or distributor that will sell you bulk cable cut to the length you specify. You may have to buy 50 or 100 foot chunks, but that's OK because you can use the leftover cable to make many shorter interconnect cables for the rest of your audio gear, including car stereo interconnect cables. You could cut your costs in half if your willing to make one stereo pair and swapping them as needed. But I warn you... Sound card jacks don't like frequent cable swaps. They are prone to jack and solder joint failure if you're stressing them. They were never designed to handle heavy usage. They also adopted a plug-n-play engineering mentality! You could buy two adapter pairs and just swap them at the RCA junctions to keep the stress off the 3.5 mm phone jacks. That would save the cost of the additional cable & ends needed to complete the loop for a bi-directional connection to your stereo.
Quality cables are also far less susceptible to RFI and other cable related idiosyncrasies. Skimping is for retards.
Mike Pelarski (AKA Jay Omega) wrote: >The problem you will* have is a ground loop; 60 Hz hum resulting >from the stereo and computer being on different outlets with different >ground potential (voltage). Disconnecting the ground for either the >computer or the stereo isn't safe, so you may need to run an extension >cord of some sort and plug the computer into the same wall socket(s) as >the stereo. That's not the only way around it, but it's the simplest.
>*- ok, not for sure, the outlets might be at the same ground potential. >But that's not overly likely.
They DAMN well better be!!! EARTH GROUND is common to ALL electrical outlets, as is the neutral line. ALL outlet neutral and ground lines tie together at the breaker/fuse panel. (At least their supposed to)
The computer SHOULD have a 3-conductor grounded plug. The stereo may only have a 2-conductor plug, and if it's newer, it's more than likely polarized. (One contact is larger) In the event the stereo has a non polarized plug, swapping the plug around could cure any AC hum in the unlikely event that it becomes an issue.
It's a VERY good idea to do this little installation test with ALL audio gear that uses non polarized plugs: Plug in the AC line cord with all other cables disconnected and check for AC voltage on any conductive part of the case. (Place one meter lead on the case and the other at the outlet ground) Swap the plug around and read it again. Once you discover the direction that reveals the least amount of AC leakage to the case, mark the plug and continue to observe that polarity whenever returning the plug to the outlet. Repeat this with ALL gear that does not use polarized plugs, particularly those that will have their cases tied together via common ground unbalanced cables. (RCA) This can (And usually does) lower the noise floor of ANY system.
-- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers
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Date: 10 May 2000 11:25:26 -0000 From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:YTSEJAM digest 5468 Message-ID: <20000510112526.24931.qmail@musone.chek.com>
I just bought Transatlantic! Damn, this is a fantastic disk! Sort on Yes and Genesis, with a goodly amount of Crowded House thrown in (oh yes! really!). Great stuff, apart from the last track, which is a bit crappy. Portnoy sounds UNRECOGNISABLE!! Wow, he rea;ly can play like Bruford! Anyone have any details of the kit he used, 'cos in the photo, it sure doesn't look like his normal monster truck-sized one.
And no double-bass fills either!!!
>From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> >Subject: LIT @ Tokyo solo >I would kill for a good sound quality of this song. >Anyone has a crystal clear sounding LIT? Care to burn an >mp3 of TLF for me? :)
Ooh, ooh! Me too! I love that solo. Is it just me, or is the volume swell part just a little like "Within Without You" from Sgt. Pepper?
>I really hate the mindless guitar solo shred on OIALT, >I skip it every single time I listen the CD. :( >Why did he need that to put on live album?
Well, I like all the solos; it's just that on a live album with limited space, I just don't see the point. Add up Petrucci's 7-minute noodlefest and Portnoy's rumba which runs to about 5 minutes...I mean, leave that off, and they could virtually have played all of ACoS on the disk!
>If I have a light bulb in Japan and the switch for >turning it on in Spain, how much time will it take from >the moment you turn the switch on until the bulb lights >on? :)
Not to mention: how long after it lights up will you see the light from the bulb from where you stand with your hand on the switch?
Answer: never. Because if you can see a lightbulb on the other side of the planet...You probably don't need your eyes tested.
>From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com> > >I found an AMAZING swing cover at http://go/dtcovers >Sounds like Frank Sinatra on vocals; this is the best >thing since sliced bread!!!!!! Kicks the I&W version up >the street, round the corner and all over town!
I'm a doughnut...that should be http://go.to/dtcovers Sorry, everyone!
~Simon
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 07:27:05 -0400 From: Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Action taken by Napster Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000510072648.00b7bc30@pop.ecosoft.com>
Music software company Napster said today it has blocked 317,377 user screen names that have been identified by Metallica as allegedly infringing on the rock band's copyrights. Last week, the band delivered 13 boxes full of legal documents identifying user names of people who allegedly had made Metallica songs available online and demanded that they be blocked from the MP3 music-swapping service.
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