YTSEJAM Digest 5482
Today's Topics:
1) And in the meantime while EUROVISION was being broadcasted live ...
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
2) Negative energy
by pieter.serruys@sidmar.be
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5481
by mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
4) D-Man's Dilemma (Dali Variety)
by MusicSnob@aol.com
5) Re: D-Man's Dilemma (Dali Variety)
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
6) Re: Negative energy
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
7) The Who
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
8) Petrucci / SRV / tha blues
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
9) What with all the Spam?
by "Webmaster Ytsejam.com" <webmaster@ytsejam.com>
10) cd prices/new cds
by "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
11) Transatlantic Tour Dates
by Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com>
12) Negative energy at concerts/New CDs
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
13) Re: Negative energy at concerts/New CDs
by Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
14) GANK!
by Jared Emery <Jared@fourwinds-trading.com>
15) Re: D-Man's Dilemma (Dali Variety)
by "Graham B" <graham@renegade2K.com>
16) seismicradio, NOW !!
by "Marcel Coenen" <mcoenen@cobweb.nl>
17) Re:Ooops....I did it AGAIN...
by EvoReaper@aol.com
18) A PLEA to CD traders...
by Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com>
19) OZZFEST
by Compadre32@aol.com
20) Re: A PLEA to CD traders...
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu>
21) Devin Townsend News
by David Peterson <glyde@computermail.net>
22) RE: Tool / Home / Vai
by "Philip J. Kaplan" <pk@pkinteractive.com>
23) DT and Tool and other things
by "Chris Elder" <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:55:16 +0200
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: And in the meantime while EUROVISION was being broadcasted live ...
Message-ID: <3922F924.424D9ADD@mol.com.mk>
During the broadcast there was LIVE IN TOKYO video on another TV
channel! :))))
Woohoo, DT video on Macedonian TV.
Actually I did hear DT becoming very popular in Macedonia among youngs,
which is kinda cool I guess.
Also, ahem, ... we have a pirate CD shop having almost all DT albums,
shop is open almost half a year already and only 2 DT pirate CDs are
bought by now (and I know this because I was doing some part time paper
work for the owner). Which means, all that growing fan base bought
originals. ;)
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:19:22 +0100
From: pieter.serruys@sidmar.be
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Negative energy
Message-ID: <412568E3.002DB8BF.00@nsgate1>
Hey,
<unlurking>
>>Yeah..but i couldnt help but notice how much NEGATIVE energy they were
>>pumping the crowd with.. same with Limp Bizkit. Now i know agressive metal
>>usually makes you angry and hyper, but i think that as an artist, you should
>>know when
>>and how to work up your crowd like that. If you've seen the reports on the
>>shit that
>>went down on woodstock, most of the crazy, destructive shit started to
>>happen during
>>and after korns set..and when limp bizkit played break stuff (pure genious
>>huh?)
i never understood why people would think that the main cause of things
going wrong is music. it reminds me of that lawsuit against judas priest (i
think)
by these guys who tried to commit suicide after listening to one of their
records.
it's guys like that that give good music a bad name (not that i'm a limp korn
fan or anything
although <please don't flame> i have to say that i listened to that limp album
and it was
better than i expected ).
Pieter
NP Symphony X - Out of the ashes (oh no - i have the sudden urge to rise out of
the ashes of my youth - damn that heavy music)
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:47:03 +1000
From: mikel <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5481
Message-ID: <39239FF4.A8069C53@alphalink.com.au>
> Vai does this on "Jiboom," from Ultra Zone. He says that he's "tipping
> his hat" to SRV, but to me it sounds like he's just jazzing up "Scuttle
> Buttin'"
yer thats true but SRV was never the most original of players in the first place.
The thing I have a problem with is that I think progressive bands like DT and Steve Vai
should really be as original and creative as they can. Incorporating other people's
riffs in one's own compositions can be good if done in a creative way (like with
samples in hip-hop) but it should be used in that context. In the blues it is less
important to be creative and more important to be emotional and what not (which is
why SRV kicks ass).
> I have been searching for this kind of music like this for a while, but w=
> ithout
> success. This Jimmy Bruno guy sounds great, but I was wondering if someon=
> e could
> recommend some other jazz guitarists to check out? I want technique, tech=
> nique
> and more technique. To hell with feeling :o)
I've got three words for you - Al DiMeola (or is that two?)
It doesn't get much faster than this guy. Most of his stuff is terribly Spanish though,
but he does some good stuff.
Apart from that theres Allan Holdsworth, Mahivishnu Orchestra (John McLaughlin),
Jaco Pastorius (on bass), Steve Morse, Ron Thal and Frank Gambale.
If you're prepared for a bit more emotion check out John Scofield or my favourite
jazz guitarist Wes Montgomery.
Also the band Tribal tech is pretty good.
> when fires started breaking out
> what did the RHCP do? Cover Jimi Hendrix's fire!! I dont know..that kind
> of thing makes me
> cringe..
i wouldn't lump RHCP in with Korn and them. Fire was on the setlist already.
Generally they tend to be a pretty positive band even if they are a bit blunt
about what they want to do to Catholic school girls.
> BUT, if you hear most of the modern guitar players (yngwie, vai, howe
> (greg), becker.) play the blues, it sounds like an attempt to play the
> blues. It=B4s some kind of metalized blues. SRV introduced a far more
> agressive way to play the blues, but it still sounded kind of pure, start=
> ing
> with the tone and all that. These shredders or whatever just take the sca=
> le
> and the flatted fifth (i=B4m not sure =B4bout this one though....) or wha=
> tever,
> and "play the blues" strutting out boring clich=E9s. And sounding like a =
> metal
> guy trying very hard to play the blues, but hardly succeeding. Petrucci i=
> s
> in this group i think. I find this kind of playing extremely boring. I do=
> n=B4t
> like blues that much either, but i have heard enough of it to recognize r=
> eal
> blues or wannabe blues.
i agree. i think Petrucci is pretty good at getting some blues going although
his tone lets him down lots. Gary Moore also did a good job at switching
from metal to blues.
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 06:58:10 EDT
From: MusicSnob@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: D-Man's Dilemma (Dali Variety)
Message-ID: <96.4f41cd0.265526c2@aol.com>
D-Man said something like he didn't like some of DD's stuff because there was
too much "because we can" musicianship. A big fan of DT complaining about
so-called "overplaying"??? Half of DT's stuff (at least) could be
catagorized as "because we can." Suffice to say that I thing DD's SONGS are
great, too...
NP: nothing, it's 6:57am and it's not Christmas morning, either...
Kevin
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:18:00 +0100
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: D-Man's Dilemma (Dali Variety)
Message-ID: <3923D168.22EEA809@picsel.com>
MusicSnob@aol.com wrote:
> D-Man said something like he didn't like some of DD's stuff because
> there was too much "because we can" musicianship. A big fan of DT
> complaining about so-called "overplaying"???
Dali's Dilemma (and all the other generic bland prog-metal bands who hide
on Magna Carta, etc) undoubtedly "can" play the notes. The problem is they
can't string them notes together in a memorable or enjoyable way.
Despite listening to Manifesto For Futurism dozens of times within a week
of purchasing it, I am still unable to remember a single lyric, recognise
a single riff, or hum a single melody. There's plenty of notes, but no
*tunes*.
With Scenes From A Memory, I was singing along on the second listen.
> Half of DT's stuff (at least) could be catagorized as "because we
> can."
Yeah, but DT manage to make it catchy and tuneful. That's why they're
successful.
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland------------------------------
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 07:51:36 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Negative energy Message-ID: <3923D948.1585123E@yunque.net>
pieter.serruys@sidmar.be wrote:
> i never understood why people would think that the main cause of things going > wrong is music. it reminds me of that lawsuit against judas priest (ithink) by > these guys who tried to commit suicide after listening to one of their records. > it's guys like that that give good music a bad name (not that i'm a limp korn fan > or anything although <please don't flame> i have to say that i listened to that > limp album and it was > better than i expected ). >
These are two totally different things, and music DOES have an impact on your mood, you cant deny that. I agree that music is hardly ever a factor when a kid kills himself, usually when they search deeper they find lots of other problems that led to it, but in a huge, tired, angry crowd, you can bet angry music with destructive lyrics IS going to influence the crowd... do you think that if instead of korn and limp bizkit, jewel was the one playing at those moments all that shit wouldve broken lose at that time? i really doubt it.
Come into this night, Your plight alone Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us Come into this night, You only home Itīs never too late, To repent, suffer the loss Opeth : Benighted Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc. mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:38:27 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: The Who Message-ID: <39238FE3.3849F94@mol.com.mk>
I just watched on old video tape of the TOMMY movie. Damn, this is great movie, and the music is incredibly fitting the story. Now THIS is a prototype concept album.
I wanted to ask, if some jammer happened to be a Who fan, I would like to exchange some thoughts about the movie.
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 09:00:39 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Petrucci / SRV / tha blues Message-ID: <39239517.11844FEB@mol.com.mk>
> From: "Mauricio Martinez" <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> > Subject: RE: Petrucci and Vaugn > > if you hear most of the modern guitar players (yngwie, vai, howe > (greg), becker.) play the blues, it sounds like an attempt to > play the blues. It's some kind of metalized blues. These > shredders or whatever just take the scale and the flatted fifth > or whatever,and "play the blues" strutting out boring cliches. > And sounding like a metal guy trying very hard to play the blues, > but hardly succeeding. Petrucci is in this group i think. I find > this kind of playing extremely boring.
Ummm ... It is because they don't stick to the blues style only, they have their own music. And I don't think Petrucci belongs in this category, then man can really play if he wants. The LIT solo is very very fine piece of thing, also that "Indulge in Reverie" Petrucci thing. I think they do it mostly 'cause of fun.
Vai and Petrucci are above the others mentioned IMHO. Vai?? C'mon man just listen those 2 ballads on Alien Love Secrets?
The UAGM guitar solo, consisited of few various (in style) sections, has one bluesy Hendrix-like part.
> Petrucci a trained jazz guy? I mean, i know berklee > is a recognized jazz school
I think it was clarified that the DT guys dropped out of Berklee after only a semestar, which is almost equal to non-Berklee education, non trained jazz musicians etc. They had interest in their music and they went that way.
> but i cant envision JP swingin= through werid chord changes. > Maybe that=B4s what he and jordan will play on that NY concert.
Say really, I don't have a clue what they could play. I guess some stuff like Liquid Dreams or Hourglass, ... I don't expect drastic change of style, like doing a jazzy jammings ... who knows ...
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 05:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Webmaster Ytsejam.com" <webmaster@ytsejam.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: What with all the Spam? Message-ID: <20000518125222.7A38580B9@sitemail.everyone.net>
What's with all the "Lose Weight, Make Money & your Mom will be happy" Spam on the 'Jam all of a sudden? Can't we filter that anymore.
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:22:21 -0700 From: "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: cd prices/new cds Message-ID: <000e01bfc0dc$dc6dba60$574b010a@winstar.com>
Holy crow! I walked into a record store at the mall the other day and saw the new Brittany Spears CD marked: MFG Price $19.99-Our Price $18.99! Like that was such a deal. God, I love CDNow. I hope they don't go under.
Evil Wings-Colors of the New World First half of this cd is pretty good standard metal with prog tendancies, but the second half just goes to crap. I wish they would have held off on recording until they had a full cd of good songs.
Kenziner-Prophecies I just discovered this band recently and just got their new one. I really like it. Very good classical/symphonic/power metal in the SymX camp.
California Guitar Trio-Rocks the West-Live Just three acoustics (and Tony Levin on bass) covering stuff from Mozart to Bohemian Rhapsody. And then some weird jazz stuff with a guest sax man. Interesting.
Kamalot-The Fourth Legacy Decent. A little beter than Siege Perilous. Makes me miss Conception.
Mastermind-Angels of the Apocalypse Kicks Ass! Their best yet. Jens and the new female singer are superb.
Trevor W. Hoit Provisioning Coordinator/Circuit Designer WinStar Broadband Services
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 08:31:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Transatlantic Tour Dates Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.1000518082842.9802A-100000@pluto.he.net>
I'm surprised no one's mentioned the Transatlantic tour dates now available on Under A Cyber Moon:
June 18 NEARFest / The Zoellner Arts Center Bethlehem, PA June 20 The Middle East Cambridge, MA June 21 Theater of the Living Arts Philadelphia, PA (special guest Echolyn) June 22 Toad's Place New Haven, CT June 23 Wetlands New York, NY June 24 The 930 Club Washington, DC September 1 ProgFest Los Angeles, CA
The Washington tickets are on sale now, only $18 a piece. (Unfortunately, Ticketbastard surcharges come out to over $6 a ticket... ugh!) I'll see the entire DC Ytse-crew there... right? :)
Ryan
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 01:00:04 -0500 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Negative energy at concerts/New CDs Message-ID: <20000518.110408.-22801.1.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
<Think that's about it. Overall, an incredible show. Quite an experience going to a concert in Japan. No moshing, lots of clap-alongs.>
Dough! My thought is mosh.
Regarding woodstock, I don't think Korn was doing aything. Ive seen firsthand what this band does to people. Limp bizkit, RHCP did sort of incite violence in the pits. korn is a band that won'y say a damn thing to the crowd, and they don't, they just play. Their music, like it or not speaks for itself. Now i did read reports that during Limp's set there was a layer of people being jumped upon and nobody was helping anyone out. Some peace love and music. Fuck everybody up.
I have been at shows where you just stand and groove (kings X) DT kinda made me get a little hyper, headbanging, jumping etc, but thats all. Machine was a show that made me go into Terminator mode. Some of the stuff the whole front row was picking up the barricade, and slamming it down, headbanging at the same time all in unison, kinda cool actaully.
NEW CDS Some of dalis stuff is well written (Hills of Memory esp, see a U2 influence in there) I do admit they do over do the solos a bit, buts what wrong with that? our fav band is DT for Christ's sake!
Anyway Supertransatlantic is very good. korgie had mentioned something about em, and they do live up to the hype. For those who don't know about this band it features Pete and Jason (former Saigon Kick) and evryone fav bass player from Extreme Pat Badger, and some unknown guitar player, real high energy fun hard rock. Esp the cover of "Can't Stand Losing You"
One CD I have been getting into big time is Engine. The songs are so dark and moody. The whole disc is a very good listening expierience. mood wise similar to Queensryche's often forgot masterpiece Promised Land.
Sorry so long, Kurt
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:14:25 -0500 From: Brian Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Negative energy at concerts/New CDs Message-ID: <B5498111.4F3F%hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
on 5/18/00 11:10 AM, Kurt M Hampton at kurt.hampton@juno.com scribbled in dulled crayon:
> Some of dalis stuff is well written (Hills of Memory esp, see a U2 > influence in there) I do admit they do over do the solos a bit, buts what > wrong with that? our fav band is DT for Christ's sake!
Speak for yourself...I wonder, for how many people on this list is DT their favorite band.
That's a rhetorical question! Don't answer it! I don't want to incite a spew of "My favorite band is XXX! The rawk and roooool!" posts. Heh.
-Brian
--
Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.
- Ernest Hemingway
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 13:23:09 -0600 From: Jared Emery <Jared@fourwinds-trading.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: GANK! Message-ID: <3924431D.BF2E29D9@fourwinds-trading.com>
Well- the time has finally come! My Latest musical vision known as "Gank" will be preforming its first show on june 2nd at the shot glass company on union and alameda in denver. The second show is on June 6th (tuesday) at the famous Cricket on the Hill. For those of you who saw me in bloodlyne, its the same bar on 13th in Denver. Show time i believe is 8pm, and we will be the second band out of three.
I will getting y'all more information as time goes by( like a flyer or something), i have a feeling that this band will go far! Denver doesn't have a band like us around, we're progressive as hell, with lots of heavy, melodic and instrumental parts with time changes and mood changes! We sounf like Panteras bruising riffs, Tools drive, and the Deftones.. Please come and support your local long hair! Jared
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 05:33:55 +1000 From: "Graham B" <graham@renegade2K.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: D-Man's Dilemma (Dali Variety) Message-ID: <200005182039.e4IKdDa07116@sampa.simpleweb.com.br>
> Dali's Dilemma (and all the other generic bland prog-metal bands who > hide on Magna Carta, etc) undoubtedly "can" play the notes. The > problem is they can't string them notes together in a memorable or > enjoyable way.
I agree 100% with this, there are loads of similar bands who you can file under the same catagory, Sieges Even are one, lots of notes, very technical, way more than DT, but no memorable songs. Ice Age are my fave Magna Carta act, they for me sound so much like a heavy version of Styx, without sounding like them, if you know what I mean :)
I just re-discovered Lemur Voice's 'Divided', after having it for nearly 12 months, great album, leaves their DT inspired debut in the dust.
gaz
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:47:38 EDT From: EvoReaper@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:Ooops....I did it AGAIN... Message-ID: <a4.48367b0.2655b0ea@aol.com>
The Portnoy Stax size I gave was wrong.
It's a 12'' Kang on a 14'' Max Stax Crash...(This is coming from my drummer)
Andy
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:14:51 -0400 From: Adam Pye <alpine1@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: A PLEA to CD traders... Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20000518170606.00b436d0@pop.mindspring.com>
Hey folks...
Got yet another couple of trades in today with CDs obviously from an MP3 source. How many times does it need to be said before people start getting it? MP3 is NOT CD quality. I don't care if you can't hear it (though if you can't tell the difference between your standard 128k mp3 and the real CD, you need to get your hearing checked), it's a fact and not just my opinion. Plus, most MP3 cds have clicks between the tracks which is always annoying. So PLEASE, everyone show some common courtesy to the people you're trading with. People shouldn't HAVE to ask whether your source is MP3 - MP3 CDs should NEVER be traded (unless, of course, both parties agree to it in advance). By all means, put the MP3 CDs on your list, but LABEL them as such. It's just good trading..
Sheesh - I can't believe how much MP3 has screwed up trading lately. I've gotten all kinds of emails from traders making sure my recordings weren't from MP3 since they've been screwed so many times in the past. I'll bet 90% of all CD copies of the Orlando show out there are from MP3 (mostly from a site I help run, unfortunately). The MP3s on Lines in the Sand were never meant to be traded - personal use only!!
Grrr...
Take care all...
Adam
_________________________________________________ Adam Pye alpine1(-at-)mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~alpine1 ^^ Above URL for tape/cd list w/ setlists __________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 17:50:00 EDT From: Compadre32@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: OZZFEST Message-ID: <a2.48b9055.2655bf88@aol.com>
I was just wondering.....who is planning to go to Ozzfest this summer? I dont think I will cause there are only two bands there that i care to see (Ozzy and Pantera)...If i miss this one, this will be the first one Ive missed since 97. Oh well....
-compadre- President - DTaholics Anonymous "We Care"
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 18:50:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@oz.plymouth.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: A PLEA to CD traders... Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10005181824350.32246-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Adam Pye wrote:
> Sheesh - I can't believe how much MP3 has screwed up trading lately. > I've gotten all kinds of emails from traders making sure my recordings > weren't from MP3 since they've been screwed so many times in the past. > I'll bet 90% of all CD copies of the Orlando show out there are from > MP3 (mostly from a site I help run, unfortunately). The MP3s on Lines > in the Sand were never meant to be traded - personal use only!!
I'd like to second this: Even though the HOB show was recorded from a WMA source, there is a BIG difference between the original and an MP3 compressed from that source. It's low quality enough without compressing the sound further.
I don't know who else is trading this show, but as far as I know only Bogie and I have original copies of this recording. I haven't sent any of them out yet and I haven't seen anybody trading with Bogie on the 'jam (although I'm sure there are some people that have done it). If you are trading for the HOB show, MAKE SURE that you double-check that it was an original source and NOT an MP3 source. Just remember that if you're trading for the HOB show, the chances are that the guy who's trying to trade with you is providing you with an MP3 source downloaded from LitS.
------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ Cloak on IRC ICQ: 2513441 ------------------------------------------------- Once I wept for I had no shoes, and then I met a man who had no feet. So I took his shoes. I mean, it's not like HE needed them, right? -------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 16:04:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David Peterson <glyde@computermail.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Devin Townsend News Message-ID: <20000518230413.E8702608F@sitemail.everyone.net>
Excerpts from a recent Devin Townsend Newsletter:
HevyDevy records PO Box 153, Maple Ridge, BC, V2X 7G1 Email: hevydevy@home.com Web: www.hevydevy.com Fax 604) 460-1263
May/June 2000 Issue #42
Well, guys, it's finally time. Physicist will be released through us on or around May 30. That is the estimated arrival time from the manufacturers. If you have access to the Internet, there are two mp3s from the new record to be found at: http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/117/devin_townsendphysicist.html
Physicist will be available only through us by mail order as all regions are still in the contract stages. Japan and Australia could see a late June/early July release. Pre-orders are welcome through us. The price is $15 US including postage ($16.05 CND with GST, $17.25 with HST, for residents of Canada). We can take Mastercard, Visa, Money Order, personal cheque for Canada and the US, or well-concealed cash. All pre-orders will have their CD mailed the day we receive the shipment. The CD includes a CD enhancement program (which unfortunately only works with a PC, sorry Mac users...) and the following track listing: Namaste, Victim, Material, Kingdom, Death, Devoid, The Complex, Irish Maiden, Jupiter, Planet Rain, and Forgotten.
Most of the distributors are still unknown but it will be out on HevyDevy through Oasis in Canada, Shock Records in Australia, and Sony in Japan. Our attempt to follow our rep in Japan turned out not to be possible, but that is fine because Sony is a great label and has been very supportive for years.
Strapping Young Lad embarked on their first ever tour of Western Canada starting May 10, opening for Canadian metal band, The Smalls. This was only Strapping songs and a couple from Physicist, as the other material requires another keyboard player who is unavailable. The dates are/were as follows: May 10 - Brooks, AB - Brooks Hotel, May 11 - Lethbridge, AB - Cadillac Club, May 12 - Calgary, AB - University McEwan Hall Ballroom, May 13 - Edmonton, AB - Golden Garter, May 16 - TBA, May 17 - Regina, SK - The State, May 18 - Winnipeg, MB - Royal Albert Hall, May 19 - Saskatoon, SK - TBA, May 20 - Carmel, SK - Carmel Hotel, May 21 - Saskatoon, all ages - TBA
Full Devin Townsend/Strapping Young Lad shows:
June 10 - Victoria, BC - IceHouse Bar June 15 - Vancouver, BC - Scrape Records in-store appearance, 5pm June 16 - Vancouver, BC - The Commodore Ballroom Physicist CD release party
Please take note of the above June 15th in-store appearance for a chance to hang out with the band. It is unlikely that Devin will perform as he has for some in-stores but all the guys will be around to answer questions and sign whatever you throw at them.
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(Holy shit!!!)
There was also a phone call between Devin and Fredrik Thorendal of Meshuggah who have both expressed interest in a possible collaboration and hope to pursue that possibility when their schedules allow.
(Holy shit!!!)
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Fan Interview #5
I read an article in which Devin said that City was a very "red" album, Biomech was blue, and Infinity was white. What colour is Physicist?
Devin: Grey
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Will there ever be another Ocean Machine record? I seem to remember you saying in an interview that you were thinking of releasing an OM EP, containing a "sequel" to "Greetings", called "Greetings Again". This was a long time ago though. Is there any possibility you might do so?
Devin: Absolutely, there will be another Ocean Machine record.
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If Infinity represents who Devin is, Ocean Machine represents Devin's dream, and Strapping Young Lad represents Devin's anger and aggression, then what does Physicist represent?
Devin: My absence of self. It's hard to explain. It's the grey area between Infinity and Strapping. Ocean Machine is in the middle and so is Physicist.
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Any word of post-Physicist or SYL projects that you would be willing give a fan? (USA)
Devin: An acoustic record, a cover tune record, a project called Worlds which is ambience and instrumental guitar project... Too many things.
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 22:38:02 -0400 From: "Philip J. Kaplan" <pk@pkinteractive.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Tool / Home / Vai Message-ID: <NDBBJDCNILGDEGLNGLEFEEEODAAA.pk@pkinteractive.com>
>Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 09:30:54 -0400 >From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com> >To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >Subject: Tool / Home / Vai >Message-ID: <20000517.093127.-862359.1.Axeman_dannl@juno.com> > >> Sometimes you pay tribute to your influences in very obvious ways >> ... listen to the last few seconds of DoE, >> and hear the tip-of-the-hat to Rush ("Free Will") > >Vai does this on "Jiboom," from Ultra Zone. He says that he's "tipping >his hat" to SRV, but to me it sounds like he's just jazzing up "Scuttle >Buttin'"
There's a part in the Dali's Dilemma disc where they play, note-for-note, a good chunk of Metropolis I. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
- Phil
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 23:46:40 -0400 From: "Chris Elder" <twilightzone@mindspring.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DT and Tool and other things Message-ID: <001901bfc144$d8851340$731e56d1@chriseld>
This is my first post, after lurking for about 5 months.
I have to go with Rob on this one, the first 20 seconds of CIA9"TG .... IS the beginning of "Home." It isn't as developed of course but you can tell that is what it is. This song was on "The Darkest of Winters" boot which pulls tracks from various shows on the 'Waking Up the World Tour' of '94-'95. A year or more before Tool's 'Aenima was released. So before you criticize OFB of lifting, listen to the boot. I personally find it funny people trying to take credit for hearing the "similarities" to Tool first. If so I want dibs. I made the connection the first time I heard "Home" back in Oct. :) Tool(especially 46&2) was played every other hour on a station here in Louisville KY. (just sharing some info on myself) Two more things for my first post:
1. Anyone wanna trade? Check my site. I do have boots from MP3 source so If you have a problem with that keep away. I like them, it is a easy, fast and cheap way to collect boots. http://members.xoom.com/pleasantnm
2. Also check out this site: http://www.radiofreecash.com You can make money listening to internet radio, AND earn Amazon Gift Certificates for all your prog listening needs. Anyway the site has 200 stations, even one devoted to prog rock. That's right, the first time I tuned in OFB was the 3 song played. You will like it, I promise.
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Enjoy it! later Chris
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