YTSEJAM Digest 5463
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Vocalists
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
2) napster&metazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......................
by "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
3) Re: Enrique tha man :)
by Andreas Skarin - SDTS <sdts@sdts.nu>
4) Re: network security...
by Jan Melander <jan.melander@got.wmdata.se>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5460
by Fett2002@aol.com
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5456
by StolnTrst@aol.com
7) Re: Enrique tha man :)
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
8) Re: Gun manufacturers
by "ArtEllis" <artellis@icnt.net>
9) Re: Artwork need
by Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com>
10) Re: network security
by "T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
11) Re: D-man's Words (Reprise)
by "Webmaster Ytsejam.com" <webmaster@ytsejam.com>
12) road crew?
by "JM Souter" <jmsouter@hotmail.com>
13) Re: road crew?
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
14) Extremely off Topic (Gun manufacturers) please Delete
by "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <todd@klindt.org>
15) echolyn
by jOHN jENS <jjens@webzone.net>
16) throwing food at Spock's Beard
by "JM Souter" <jmsouter@hotmail.com>
17) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5462
by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
18) more Napster
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
19) Union tour, Steve Z, and speeding
by "tomas valodka" <tvalodka@dreamtheater.zzn.com>
20) Brufford, Levin, Projeckts
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
21) Explorer's Club, LiT
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.org>
22) 4/20? 5/5!!
by Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.org>
23) cds and guns
by "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
24) open letter from metallic =)
by Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net>
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Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 01:09:05 -0400
From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Vocalists
Message-ID: <39125771.A3C0C3F6@yunque.net>
Marie.Donnell@agso.gov.au wrote:
> I'll second that!!
> Ive been singing for around 7 or 8 years now, well singing in bands
> and my dream is to have a prog band of my own (but who wants a female prog
> singer?)
eh.. I DO??!
I would absolutely love to see say, Anekke putting some time with DT, like it
had been mentioned before, she wouldve been great cast as victoria to sing the
high parts in the harmonies on sfam :)
Come into this night, Your plight alone
Carry your weight, You are flawed as all of us
Come into this night, You only home
It´s never too late, To repent, suffer the loss
Opeth : Benighted
Carlos Alfaro Internet Solutions Inc.
mailto:calfaro@yunque.net mailto:prog@musician.org
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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 22:12:52 PDT
From: "Fran Brennan" <okelnard@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: napster&metazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......................
Message-ID: <20000505051253.24067.qmail@hotmail.com>
I think I've figured out why this thread is so boring; WHERE THE HELL IS
KORGX3??!?
-Fran
Ok, Im not really one to bitch about stuff that goes on around here, but I
thjink the Napster thread is GETTING REALLY OLD. Could we move onplease.
I am tired og getting a jam with 24 posts, and about 19 or 20 are about
the same thing.KurtNP-Rest of the Creed boot from last night
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Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 07:58:41 +0200
From: Andreas Skarin - SDTS <sdts@sdts.nu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Enrique tha man :)
Message-ID: <39126311.4799CB12@sdts.nu>
CyberDuke wrote:
> Yo guys, ... about that Enrique Iglesias mp3 ... I think it's not him!
> C'mon, how can it be SO out of key? :) I doubt it's possible something
> THAT bad can go live.
Eh... it wasn't "going live". It was playback, and a sound engineer
recorded what he was actually singing. He was just screaming the words so
the 12 year old girls would think he was really singing. Therefore it's
not really fair to judge his singing from the mp3, since he didn't try to
sing correctly.
-- Andreas Skarin Svenska Dream Theater S=E4llskapet http://www.sdts.nu - mailto:sdts@sdts.nu------------------------------
Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 08:58:04 +0100 From: Jan Melander <jan.melander@got.wmdata.se> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: network security... Message-ID: <B5383D9C.1998%jan.melander@got.wmdata.se>
on 2000-05-05 06.09, ytsejam@torchsong.com at ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote:
> > Yup. MacOS has very good network security. As a matter of fact, upon the > release of OS8 a couple years back some company offered a million dollars to > anyone who could break into a MacOS machine running just the standard > appletalk connection. If memory serves, I think someone eventually did it, > but it took about 8 months. I may have some details wrong, it's been a > while. But that's close enough. > > -Brian
Correct!
When one guy at last succeeded in changing a web page on the server he was using flaw in the web server, and not in the OS itself. That flaw was corrected within 24 hours by the makers of the web server.
U.S. army got tired of getting their web servers hacked so the most important ones have been moved to run on MacOS.
Linux are a Unix dialect so beware... it IS a network OS, if You configure it wrong Your machine will be wide open on the internet, even more so than any version of Windows. The difference is that this is the natural behavior of Unix and can be configured to be safe, but most of the security problems with Windows is in flaws and bug, and certain 'features' that are switched on by default and not familiar enough to people to turn of before getting on line.
--------------------------------------------------------------- Jan Melander WM-data eApplications jan.melander@got.wmdata.se --------------------------------------------------------------- "Until the circle breaks and wisdom lies ahead, The faithful live Awake, the rest remain misled" Innocence Faded - Dream Theater
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 03:28:01 EDT From: Fett2002@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5460 Message-ID: <3f.458346d.2643d201@aol.com>
In a message dated 5/4/00 11:42:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< >it has been made more poular through the blockbuster George Lucas movie, >Return of the Shredi. Anybody got any idea who came up with the pun "Return of the Shredi"??? I thought a buddy of mine did, but now that I see you guys writing it, I think that maybe he didn't... -Dan. >>
Well, I'm the one that wrote that and I didn't take it from anywhere else, but I just came up with it as of writing that. So, your budy is certainly ahead of me! I take no credit, nor do I want any. :) -Mike C.
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 04:18:43 EDT From: StolnTrst@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5456 Message-ID: <2f.4d9f31a.2643dde3@aol.com>
In a message dated 5/2/2000 9:56:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ytsejam@torchsong.com writes:
<< someone else, no, not him either, wrote about the Galactic Cowboys: >but their most recent album "At the End of the Day" was so strong...> If by strong you mean strong-smelling, then, yes, I agree with you. Everything they have put out since Machine Fish has been utter crap. >>
LOL, obviously someone's an Idiot, and is obviously speaking from Ignorance, cause they HAVEN'T listened to the music and given it a chance, if you ask me, everything they have put out since Machine Fish may have not been quite as Heavy if that's what you want to say, but that it's all Crap?? Nonsense!!! I think you need to reexamine your taste. ;-) thanks
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 01:24:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Enrique tha man :) Message-ID: <20000505082458.16810.qmail@web312.mail.yahoo.com>
--- CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> wrote: > > Yo guys, ... about that Enrique Iglesias mp3 ... I think it's not him! > C'mon, how can it be SO out of key? :) I doubt it's possible something > THAT bad can go live. > I also think the man can at least sing fairly good. >
Oh hell, c'mon Duke... Don't you think you'd hear music juuusst a lil' louder if it really was from a show ? I mean, singer's mic would pick up better from the speakers, eh ? And no one sings that bad if sober, NO ONE, not even me...
- Winger
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 06:20:05 -0400 From: "ArtEllis" <artellis@icnt.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Gun manufacturers Message-ID: <001501bfb67b$7bfd6560$262c0d40@Comp1>
<<<<Oh, dear Ged (thanks Jon :), please, do *not* let this turn into a debate on gun control. I just want to adress a question.>>>>
Aaw! Damn!
Charlton Heston is my President! ~~Art
Art's 'When Dream And Day Unite' Resource Page http://www.joestump.com/wdadu
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 03:51:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Janne Jokitalo <janne_jokitalo@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Artwork need Message-ID: <20000505105126.27996.qmail@web312.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Mauricio Jose Nardini <nardini@persogo.com.br> wrote: > > Hi people: > > Where can I find the artworks of Dream Theater in the web ?
The Official Dream Theater Website
- Winger
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: network security Message-ID: <20000505105933.5900.qmail@web2105.mail.yahoo.com>
Brian Hayden said: >Yup. MacOS has very good network security. As a >matter of fact, upon the release of OS8 a couple >years back some company offered a million dollars to >anyone who could break into a MacOS machine running >just the standard appletalk connection. If memory >serves, I think someone eventually did it,but it took >about 8 months. I may have some details wrong, it's >been a >while. But that's close enough. >-Brian-- ------------------ Hell, you don't even need a connection to a network for someone to get onto your system. As long as your computer is plugged into an electrical socket, then you're leaving yourself wide open. ;)
tb
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 05:21:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Webmaster Ytsejam.com" <webmaster@ytsejam.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: D-man's Words (Reprise) Message-ID: <20000505122119.A4043B0A2@sitemail.everyone.net>
on 5/5/00 D-man jumped out from behind a parked car in a dark alley and screamed:
>The problem is that legislators have either lacked the ability, or refused, to catch up...
OH GOD!!! Don't let this turn into a debate about the inefficiency of the US Government to accomplish something logical in a timely manner.....
-Just kiddin D-man, I've had an IV solution of sarcasm runnning into me for the last couple days.
-Koggie ..is still wondering what the guys from Echolyn have been up to lately.
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Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 08:40:21 CDT From: "JM Souter" <jmsouter@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: road crew? Message-ID: <20000505134021.71410.qmail@hotmail.com>
I was wondering something on the way in to work this morning. With all the talk of how little the band gets paid for each CD sold, I wonder where the funds come from to help pay the roadies and guitar/bass/drum techs? Does a portion of each CD also go to the road crew? Maybe some band members on the list could shed some light here. Just curious.
Jan-Michael
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Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 15:01:53 +0100 From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: road crew? Message-ID: <3912D451.4EDADFF3@picsel.com>
JM Souter wrote: > With all the talk of how little the band gets paid for each CD sold, I > wonder where the funds come from to help pay the roadies and > guitar/bass/drum techs?
They crawl around the floor of the venue afterwards looking for dropped coins, wallets, watches, jewellery, etc. They keep any money they find, and sell the watches and jewellery to suspicious people round the back of the venue.
When the band plays a dud show and the audience throw bananas and tomatos on stage, the roadies eat this food. They rely on the band playing at least 2 dud shows every week.
When Derek was still in DT, and he couldn't cope with the sheer numbers of groupies, he used to slip the roadies a few dollars to deal with the groupies on his behalf.
That's mostly how these guys make a living.
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:02:02 -0500 From: "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <todd@klindt.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Extremely off Topic (Gun manufacturers) please Delete Message-ID: <001101bfb69a$7d737280$3464a8c0@klindt.org>
I'm a responsible gun owner. I've never broken any federal, state or local laws with any of my firearms. Why should it be difficult for me to purchase one? I think we all agree there is a problem today in America concerning firearms. I also think we all want the same thing, less innocent people to die, period. Be that from guns, knives, sticks, bricks, whatever. I don't think the problem is that there are not enough laws. I think the problem is that the current laws aren't being enforced. Here's an example. The Brady Bill restricts who can purchase a firearm. It's based on stuff like criminal history, mental health, stuff like that. I'm not too familiar with the specifics because the Brady Bill doesn't effect any state that already had a similar law in place and Iowa did. So I didn't see much of a change. Anyway, the Brady Bill also makes it illegal to try to purchase a firearm if you aren't eligible. It's kinda like it being illegal to try to buy beer if you're only 19. President Clinton is very proud of the Brady Bill and at one point boasted that it had stopped over 200,000 firearm sales to criminals. Outstanding! You know how many of those people were prosecuted for attempting to illegally purchase a firearm? Less than 100. That pisses me off. There's no fear of recourse at all. If you're a felon, and you want a firearm, go try to buy one. If the dealer turns you down, go to the next dealer. The reason this pisses me off is because the solution that gun control folks suggest is more laws. Why not enforce the laws that already exist? Making more laws only makes it tougher for guys like me that follow the law. It doesn't make it tougher for guys that break the law. The gun control folks also try to attack the manufacturers with these ridiculous lawsuits. Who does that make it tough on, the law abiding citizen again. I haven't done anything wrong. Why should I lose the right to have firearms? I am not too excited about giving up rights for the feeling of security. Not on this one. I think that law abiding citizens should be left alone. If you break the law, to hell with you, you should be punished.
Again, just my opinion, I could be wrong. tk
-----Original Message----- ]From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of Digital Man Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 12:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Gun manufacturers
Oh, dear Ged (thanks Jon :), please, do *not* let this turn into a debate on gun control. I just want to adress a question.
On 2000-05-04 at 13:03 -0700, ytsejam@torchsong.com <ytsejam@torchsong.com> truly believed:
> Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:16:31 -0500 > From: "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <todd@klindt.org> > Subject: RE: D-man's Words > > Technically I believe the gun manufacturers are being accused of > irresponsible marketing practices that lend themselves well to criminals > getting firearms. I don't think any of the lawsuits are based on "Hey, you > made a product and someone hurt someone else with it!".
As far as I can tell, the gun makers are getting into trouble because:
* They designed a product that is inherently dangerous (yes, more than a car) * For years upon years, it has been ridiculously easy to legally purchase a handgun (or shotgun, or rifle, whatever) which, logic would seem to dictate, has led to a proliferation of guns on the streets. * Gun makers have not placed any Surgeon General's warnings about high-velocity projectiles or lead poisoning on their products. * etc. along those lines.
In short, people's problems with the gun companies are with their products. As a capitalist, I think it's asinine to blame the gun manufacturers. Everyone knows what guns are designed for (to put holes in things). As a gun-control advocate, I think that people's energy would be better spent aimed at federal and state governments, in an effort to make it far more difficult to obtain or own a gun, and severely increase the consequences of breaking these laws.
As a realist, I count the Republicans in Congress and go back to fighting for open source.
The gun companies (who I think are Bad People) and Napster (who I think are Good People) have every right to create a product and promote it vigorously, until such time that it becomes illegal to do so (Fellow Americans, try to catch a glimpse of someone actually drinking a beer in a beer ad, or smoking in a cigarette ad). They're not the problem. The problem is that legislators have either lacked the ability, or refused, to catch up. In the meantime, there are laws about what we can and can not do with these products. (You can shoot paper targets; you can't download Metallica songs.)
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:10:02 -0500 (CDT) From: jOHN jENS <jjens@webzone.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: echolyn Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005050904180.12740-100000@darkhorse.webzone.net>
On 05/05/00 5:37am, thus spake Webmaster Ytsejam.com:
| -Koggie ..is still wondering what the guys from Echolyn have been up | to lately.
echolyn is back together and recording a new cd as i type. i've heard a 3 song demo. quite tasty and sure to please. i wouldn't be surprised at all if they garner a large(r) following with this album.
you can pre-order here:
-- jOHN jENS jJENS@wEBZONE.nET http://sHELL.wEBZONE.nET/~jjens
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Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 09:20:03 CDT From: "JM Souter" <jmsouter@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: throwing food at Spock's Beard Message-ID: <20000505142003.91098.qmail@hotmail.com>
>From: Graham Borland [SMTP:graham@picsel.com] >Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 9:10 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: road crew? > > >When the band plays a dud show and the audience throw bananas and >tomatos >on stage, the roadies eat this food. They rely on the band >playing atleast >2 dud shows every week.
Well, I heard that the audience threw stuff at Spock's Beard not too long ago... :)
If the shoe fits... ;)
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 10:57:19 -0400 From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 5462 Message-ID: <245F7E2FFC57D311A6DF0090273628B03BF657@AMSC_NTAS>
I-Man said...
> cassettes as do audio CD-R's have a tax on them to recover > funds lost due to > copying? (Of course that's an RIAA deal of which the actual > artists probably > never see a dime) :-(
Actually, ASCAP members - and I'm assuming BMI, as well - do get royalties on this, FGI. :)
Mike Division
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 07:49:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: more Napster Message-ID: <20000505144923.5827.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com>
"Mark Philpot" <mep10@duke.edu> admitted:
> Mp3s are probably the greatest thing that happened to the music > industry since... well CDs. Before, trying to get my friends to listen to DT > was almost impossilbe. It just never worked out. However since mp3s... I > can select a few songs that I think my friend would like, and boom, they're > hooked. I gotten LOTS of my friends now to go out and buy EVERY SINGLE > DT album just because I sent them some mp3s!!!! Mp3s are great, as long > as its use is limited to sampling!
I'm sorry my friend, but you are in direct violation of copyright law. You have made and distributed copies of copyrighted material. As a matter of fact, you have done exactly what most users of Napster have done.
Don't worry, it seems that half of the ytsejam community here will come to your house and form a human chain to protect you. The other half will volunteer to join the Janet Reno/Metallica copyright stormtroopers and invade your house with automatic weapons. The photograph beamed around the world will show one ytsejammer holding your computer in the closet, and another putting a machine gun in their face. ;o)
Steven Zebrowski" <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:
> Who's suing the fans?
Of course Metallica is not suing the fans directly (or are they now with that list?), but what is the whole point here? They want to stop (or even punish) the people who have put up MP3's of their officially released material. Who do you think those people are?! Are they putting up MP3's of bands they hate? They're fans, hoping to bring new fans on board. Just like Mark above.
]From the official Metallica news release:
"These violations were monitored from Friday, April 28th - Sunday, April 30th at 4AM EST and include 335,435 distinct users who on average offer 5 Metallica files for illegal transfer."
An average of five songs! Sounds like a small sample to me... more like a fan trying to generate more fans.
So yes, to me this whole lawsuit seems like an attack on their own fans. Fans who were trying to help them, not hurt them.
my $.02, BH
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:07:56 -0400 From: "tomas valodka" <tvalodka@dreamtheater.zzn.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Union tour, Steve Z, and speeding Message-ID: <A96C517D1D124D11DA9C0005B813E913@tvalodka.dreamtheater.zzn.com>
Let me get the damn Napster crap out of the way. Skip to next paragraph if you've had enough. (Hell, I'VE had enough, but I had one more thing to say): Steve Z simplified the argument and kept the major important point of the issue intact and clear. All the people thinking that they are foiling the insidious record companies with mp3's and the United People's Music Liberation Front are WRONG. You are taking money out of THE BANDS pockets. The record industry isn't gonna take a hit. No one will lose their company Lexus, no exec will take a pay cut, no exec will need a second job to make sure his kid can go to college. Look at what happened to tobacco. They lost what, 40 gazillion bucks in that lawsuit? Who paid it? Smokers did when the price of a pack went up 30%. (50% even in some places). The record companies will just fuck bands over even harder if sales go down.(Or charge even more for Cd's than they do now) I don't like it either, but that's how it works, and unless fans start sending checks directly to their favorite bands, it's a necessary evil. (I just pictured a Metallica telethon....) People think it works the way it does for local bands. Go to shows, band gets head charge,venue gets bar take. Buy cd , band pays back loan to front for recording and pressing, guitarist gets new strings, band has beer money left over. But to get worldwide exposure, you need a worldwide wallet. We might not like it, but record companies get the job done. We might bitch about OFB not getting the exposure they deserve, but that's because teenie boppers like Brittany Spears and N'Sync and they've got daddy's money. The solution to exposure would be for us all to buy 2 or 3 copies of each DT album. That way, OFB gets 3 bucks instead of just one, and Elektra gives 'em more money to tour and for the next album. Oops, wandering a bit...ANYWAY, until there's a better way we have to put up with record companies, and those companies won't take the loss if we try to circumvent their pockets.Trying to hurt them hurts the artists , and in the long run the fans when bands get dropped due to poor sales. I really hope I'm done with this topic, but I'd be very interested in Mr. Portnoy's opinion.
Lord of the Rings movie?????? Sweet, gonna have to do some surfin about that. By the way, with Battlefield Earth coming out, I wanted to ask if Dianetics is worth reading. I've heard it's motivating and useful, I've heard it's just a wacky cult thing. Opinions?
Best thing about Union was the tour!!!!!! Everybody there, trading off, jamming together. They really mixed it up. Any other Jammers remember back that far?
Speed in the school zone of my little girl's elementary, and I'll shoot your tires out.
I'm still laughing at Brian's signature quote!!!!!!! ..that reminds me.....
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Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 17:26:30 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Brufford, Levin, Projeckts Message-ID: <3912E826.ED5048B8@mol.com.mk>
I need some info on these Projekct albums, mainly about the Projekct 2 & 3, line-up and other stuff. Anyone?
Also, does anyone have any Mike Kenelly album? Any review? How many albums the dud has? I only have on mp3 I CAN'T STOP, which is pretty cool tune, but I know the man is weird enough to pull off some more stuff. thanx...
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 17:41:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.org> To: YML <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Explorer's Club, LiT Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0005051732350.15164-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
I picked up Explorer's Club today (yeah I know I'm late), and seems a fine disc to me. BUT... after five years of being a DT-freak I FINALLY managed to get Live in Tokyo. Wow what a great tape that is! Mike's drumsolo kicks serious ass. And I didn't know they had written Puppies already back then. Anyway, some jams ago someone was quoting KJLB about some language stuff he'd be saying in the video ('Let me study the language first before you talk to me', or something like that). Anyone wanna point out when exactly he says that? I seemed to have missed it. The bit where KevMo goes 'I don't like DT that much but...'etc is hilarious.
Oh yeah: some guy caused a collective heart attack on the Symphony X mailinglist claiming that Angra's Luis Mariutti is dead. Anyway, he's not. Luckily he said he was wrong only half an hour later, cause rumour like this can spread as fast as I Love You.
Peter
-- |Peter Geerts ICQ:13122363 (weekend) "...And for an encore, Man | |zaphod@ace.ulyssis.org proved that black is white | |zaphod@dreamtheater.zzn.com and got himself killed on | |Political Science Student the next zebra crossing..."| |Leuven University, Belgium (Douglas Adams) |
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 17:52:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Geerts <zaphod@ace.ulyssis.org> To: YML <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: 4/20? 5/5!! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0005051751450.17735-100000@ace.ulyssis.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
Happy birthday James!!!!!
-- |Peter Geerts ICQ:13122363 (weekend) "...And for an encore, Man | |zaphod@ace.ulyssis.org proved that black is white | |zaphod@dreamtheater.zzn.com and got himself killed on | |Political Science Student the next zebra crossing..."| |Leuven University, Belgium (Douglas Adams) |
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Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:02:06 -0700 From: "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: cds and guns Message-ID: <000a01bfb6ab$43317200$574b010a@wa2wsl115.winstar.com>
It cost em what, about $1 to make a cd? So why the hell are they charging $15 a pop for em?
Heh, more like $17.99. Been to Blockbuster Music lately? :
BECAUSE YOU"RE NOT PAYING FOR THE DISC ITSELF! YOU ARE PAYING FOR THE MUSIC ON THE DISC!
Good point, but why then does a cassette with the SAME MUSIC on it cost $4 less than a cd? It used to be cd's cost more to produce than cassettes, but now the oppisite is true, so they are ripping us off at least $4.
"Irresponsible marketing practices"??? Gimme a friggin' break. How much marketing does the gun industry do? Almost none. How on earth can the gun manufacturers be said to have irresponsible marketing practices?
But they do advertise some guns with features like "fingerprint resistant". This would only appeal to criminals.
Trevor W. Hoit Provisioning Coordinator/Circuit Designer WinStar Broadband Services
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Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 13:18:15 -0400 From: Robb Muise <robbm@shore.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: open letter from metallic =) Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000505131803.00b1cd80@pop.ecosoft.com>
http://www.brunching.com/features/feature-metallicaletter.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- Robb Muise "An it harm none, do as ye will" Shore.net Network Operations Center Email:robbm@shore.net Phone:781-593-3110 ext181 Cell Phone: 978-884-6423
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