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YTSEJAM Digest 5685

Today's Topics:

1) RE: EDENBRIDGE
by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
 2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5684
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
 3) TSO show
by "Ryan Park" <rpark@space-dye.com>
 4) hey hey!
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@mail.wm.edu>
 5) My CD and Vinyl SALE
by "MixalisM" <michael@progmetal.net>
 6) Come and See you Favorite Celebrity!!
by "Britney" <Britney@flyingleemersonline.com>
 7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5684
by Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
 8) flower kings live in monterrey mexico
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
 9) Stratovarious
by "Douglas Gray" <douglas_gray@hotmail.com>
10) dreams
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
11) TSO
by Shane Hunziker <DTFreak99@excite.com>
12) RE: Hell
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
13) Return of Krog
by Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
14) Re: Return of Krog
by "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
15) Italian skills
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
16) majesty symbol and adobe photoshop
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?fuci=F1os_asorey_julio?= <julio.fucios@rai.usc.es>
17) Re: Shareware trouble
by "Marko Randjelovic" <truki@EUnet.yu>
18) Re: Egroups mailing lists
by "Marko Randjelovic" <truki@EUnet.yu>
19) Re: Out of the ashes, I rise with morning wood.
by "Marko Randjelovic" <truki@EUnet.yu>
20) Symphony X skipping CD issue info
by Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com>
21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5684
by Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
22) RE: Egroups mailing lists
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
23) WWW.WOLVERINE-OVERDOSE.COM
by "Stefan Zell" <stefanzell@hotmail.com>

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:19:33 -0800 (PST)
From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: RE: EDENBRIDGE
Message-ID: <20001129011933.27972.qmail@web9601.mail.yahoo.com>

> np: EdenBridge (like Aghora but Much better! in my
> humble opinion anyway

hey you got a link or something to check some of their
stuff out? sounds interesting.

thanks
John

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:22:35 -0600
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5684
Message-ID: <20001128.192257.-29249.0.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>

<They did this one during the Christmas Shows in 98 (I think) just before

heading to start recording SFAM. There's a boot somewhere.. I used to
have
a... *gasp* mp3 of it ;)>

AND firing derek :)

Skadz wrote:
< I have heard a number of complaints lately about the amount
of spam on the jam. I am going to look in to it in the next
few days. I have been in NY for a good part of the last 3 months
and am way behind on stuff like the jam.>

So thats how the metallica argument was able to keep going on. Hmmph

We got Korg back, if only we could get Mike back now :( sniff sniff

Yeah.

Kurt
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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:47:06 -0500
From: "Ryan Park" <rpark@space-dye.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Cc: <andy@dust.de>
Subject: TSO show
Message-ID: <NDBBKMFPMKNHENPACFDDIECKCIAA.rpark@space-dye.com>

Andy Welihozkiy wrote:

> Anybody hitting the TSO show in DC on 22nd of Dec!?
> I just grabbed some tickets on the floor. Pretty cool.
> I'm taking my Mom and brother -- Awe, yeah but they love 'em
> too -- so it should be quite a show.

Yeah, I'll be there. I think I'm in the 10th row or so on the floor. I saw
Trans-Siberian Orchestra last winter in Chicago and they were phenomenal --
it wasn't the best concert I've ever seen, but it *was* the best show my
four friends had seen. This one should be good, although I'm a little
concerned they've "sold out", for lack of a better term.

One thing that was interesting about the Chicago show was the audience. A
number of them were young metalheads wearing t-shirts from Savatage,
Metallica, etc. A number of them were middle-age couples dressed up
expecting a night at the opera. The rest, like us, were in between. TSO
managed to draw the attention of both sides of their fan base, and blew us
all away.

With the new release, though, it feels like TSO is trying to mimic their
earlier successful songs in order to gain radio play, a fan base, etc.
However, in the process, their music feels "stagnant" -- they haven't
progressed beyond their 1996 sound. The Cranberries and Creed had this same
problem. They both put out extremely good albums, and followed those up
with albums which tried to sound exactly the same. It's frustrating,
because the newer releases lack the creativity and originality found in the
original albums. With TSO, the lack of originality alienates the rock fan
base in favor of the "orchestral crowd" (for lack of a better term).

Well, that's my rant for tonight. Any thoughts?

Ryan

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:26:53 -0500
From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@mail.wm.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: hey hey!
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20001128212620.00a9c8a0@mail.wm.edu>

>Once upon a time, there was a guy named Korg, and he went on a great
>adventure.

Glad to see you survived to tell the tale. Welcome back!!

"I saw my entire life flash before my eyes!!!
.... It was boring."

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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 04:00:46 -0000
From: "MixalisM" <michael@progmetal.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: My CD and Vinyl SALE
Message-ID: <001d01c059b8$f534b2e0$20f731d4@earth>

Hi all, I thought you should be one of the first to know that the site
dedicated to my cds and vinyls sale is online. I've included all the
information and lists there.

The address is: http://www.ProgMetal.net/sale

- MichaelM
ProgMetal.net

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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:03:51 -0800
From: "Britney" <Britney@flyingleemersonline.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Come and See you Favorite Celebrity!!
Message-ID: <200011290405.UAA08468@knight.axnet.net>

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:49:19 -0600
From: Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5684
Message-ID: <B649F4FF.588%twilightzone@mindspring.com>

on 11/28/00 6:56 PM, ytsejam@torchsong.com at ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote:

> I was || this close to catching one of Maiden's boots during their show
> here, but it hit a girl two seats in front of mine and knocked her out.
> Still, I tried to go for (what I believe was) Dickinson's boot (which has
> the most value in the boot market) but to no avail.

ROTFLMAO!

This was the best jam in quite some time. This along with Korg's dream and
the masturbation at the end...

About dreams...I had one the other night that I actually hooked up with this
girl I'm trying to hook up with. We were at some football game in the
bleachers and who is sitting next to us? James Hetfield, Lars Ulrich and
Jason Newsted. Kirk must not like football.

-corvin

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:09:42 -0600
From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: flower kings live in monterrey mexico
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20001128230942.007f1aa0@umav04.udem.edu.mx>

flower kings will be in town (monterrey, mexico....4 hours away from laredo
texas, 6 from san antonio, 12 from mexico city)...

they will be playing in a local bar called escena, I dont have the date
right now but if anyones interested feel free to email me...

I could give you directions for the club and hotels around the area...

---
Don't talk unless you can improve the silence.
Alan Estrada Adler,  ICQ #9267174       Monterrey, Mexico
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:12:29 -0000
From: "Douglas Gray" <douglas_gray@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Stratovarious
Message-ID: <F237bIAMNZFlH78TI2v00007343@hotmail.com>
Hi Ash,
I'll be at the gig as well - maybe this time we'll actually meet up!
Check out Dragonheart's site www.dragonheart.net to see what they are like - 
there's all the tracks from their demo to download in various formats and 
some video clips as well.
Anyone one going to Uli Roth/UFO gig at the Astoria on Sunday?
Cheers
Doug
NP: Porcupine Tree - Lightbulb Sun
>Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:05:31 +0100
>From: "Ashley Wong (ERV)" <Ashley.Wong@erv.ericsson.se>
>Hello all,
>
>Yep Charlie!, a friend in North London has got our tickets and we'll be 
>heading down there.
>Any idea what the support guys DragonHeart are like? BTW, thanks for the 
>info. on the Swedish
>scene! ;-)
>
>	ash.
>
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 07:50:03 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: dreams
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC2971@ISDCRE00>
Kirk was under the bleachers with some of the football players..........
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Chris Elder [SMTP:twilightzone@mindspring.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, November 28, 2000 10:58 PM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	Re: YTSEJAM digest 5684
> 
> 
> on 11/28/00 6:56 PM, ytsejam@torchsong.com at ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote:
> 
> > I was || this close to catching one of Maiden's boots during their show
> > here, but it hit a girl two seats in front of mine and knocked her out.
> > Still, I tried to go for (what I believe was) Dickinson's boot (which
> has
> > the most value in the boot market) but to no avail.
> 
> ROTFLMAO!
> 
> This was the best jam in quite some time.  This along with Korg's dream
> and
> the masturbation at the end...
> 
> About dreams...I had one the other night that I actually hooked up with
> this
> girl I'm trying to hook up with.  We were at some football game in the
> bleachers and who is sitting next to us?  James Hetfield, Lars Ulrich and
> Jason Newsted.  Kirk must not like football.
> 
> :)
> 
> -corvin
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 06:10:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Shane Hunziker <DTFreak99@excite.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: TSO
Message-ID: <7317597.975507003450.JavaMail.imail@puffer>
Hello,
Can anyone tell me whether TSO is selling merchandise on their Christmas
tour and if so what kind and at what prices?
Thanks!
Shane
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:26:18 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Hell
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC2976@ISDCRE00>
Doubt it....                              ;)
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Korg Ecksthrey [SMTP:stinkfist@digitalfeces.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, November 28, 2000 5:43 PM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	Re: Hell
> 
> 
> Yes.  It is.
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:49:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Paul Weiss <paulw@bass.org>
To: The Dance of Ytinrete <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Return of Krog
Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.21.0011290939060.28868-100000@gs.bass.org>
Korg makes a brilliant return to the list with a classic post and a brand
spankin' new address [stinkfist@digitalfeces.com]. I wish I could be as
cool as he.
JM:
>Who the heck is  MANDATEMI PIU  anyway??
I realize you were kidding, however, it would have been nicer to write him
directly and tell him how to unsubscribe. For those unskilled in reading
foreign languages, "Manda" is the imperative of "mandare: to send," the
following bits are the pronouns in order. In the same way that
"Scusatemi" means "(you) Excuse me," this means "(you) send me." "Piu" is
"more."
Thus concludes today's lecture on form and grammar in Italian. Stay tuned
for tomorrow's nail-biting installment when I explain how to conjugate
"Mierda" in Spanish.
paul
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:11:25 -0500
From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Return of Krog
Message-ID: <009a01c05a16$a3e02510$efe1f240@crp.org>
> Thus concludes today's lecture on form and grammar in Italian. Stay tuned
> for tomorrow's nail-biting installment when I explain how to conjugate
> "Mierda" in Spanish.
I can't wait for *that* lesson, "mierda" being a noun, not a verb :)
joe
NP: Strangeways - Walk in the Fire
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:09:33 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Italian skills
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC2984@ISDCRE00>
Actually I went to BabelFish and tried to get his/her sentence translated to
English..  It (BabelFish) left that part in uppercase alone  "MANDATEMI PIU"
so that's why I was asking.  Your assist is greatly appreciated.  :)
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Paul Weiss [SMTP:paulw@bass.org]
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 29, 2000 8:57 AM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	Return of Krog
> 
> 
> Korg makes a brilliant return to the list with a classic post and a brand
> spankin' new address [stinkfist@digitalfeces.com]. I wish I could be as
> cool as he.
> 
> JM:
> >Who the heck is  MANDATEMI PIU  anyway??
> 
> I realize you were kidding, however, it would have been nicer to write him
> directly and tell him how to unsubscribe. For those unskilled in reading
> foreign languages, "Manda" is the imperative of "mandare: to send," the
> following bits are the pronouns in order. In the same way that
> "Scusatemi" means "(you) Excuse me," this means "(you) send me." "Piu" is
> "more."
> 
> Thus concludes today's lecture on form and grammar in Italian. Stay tuned
> for tomorrow's nail-biting installment when I explain how to conjugate
> "Mierda" in Spanish.
> 
> paul
> NP Engine: Engine
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Paul's Bimonthly Musical Quote:
> 
> Cuckoo Cocoon/ Have I come to to soon for you?
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:21:05 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?fuci=F1os_asorey_julio?= <julio.fucios@rai.usc.es>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: majesty symbol and adobe photoshop
Message-ID: <82E8057D7B40D411B3200000C0CA7DE0A85E93@correorai.rai.usc.es>
hi there!
does anyone have a smart majesty logo in adobe photoshop format? i =
would
like to make a big poster of it and i would like to have one vectorized =
..
thanks a lot!
julio fuci=F1os asorey
julio.fucios@rai.usc.es
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:50:20 +0100
From: "Marko Randjelovic" <truki@EUnet.yu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Shareware trouble
Message-ID: <01c05a2c$d79faa40$LocalHost@king>
My pleasure
-----Original Message-----
]From: Souter, Jan-Michael <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Date: Tuesday, 28 November, 2000 17:33
Subject: RE: Shareware trouble
|VERY cool    thank you !
|
|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: Marko Randjelovic [SMTP:truki@EUnet.yu]
|> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 3:36 PM
|> To: Multiple recipients of list
|> Subject: Shareware trouble
|> 
|> 
|> There is a neat little program that tricks the application, that is on...
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:01:20 +0100
From: "Marko Randjelovic" <truki@EUnet.yu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Egroups mailing lists
Message-ID: <01c05a25$ffab9aa0$LocalHost@king>
The ads are sometimes on the bottom sometimes on top. And the eGroups are letting you keep the ads out for a fee, of course.
I don't know how much money does Skadz pays for this list, but it's about $60 (per year) for a no ads list on eGroups.
Marko
-----Original Message-----
]From: Souter, Jan-Michael <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Date: Tuesday, 28 November, 2000 18:50
Subject: Egroups mailing lists
|Brian..  I'm on at least 6 Egroups lists (including the official Symphony X
|mailing list) and I don't see any bugs.  And the ads are at the bottom (text
|only) and aren't invasive.  NO SPAM.  Unlike the Ytsejam list..    :)
|
| JM
|
|
|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: Brian D Hayden [SMTP:hayd0029@tc.umn.edu]
|> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 10:48 AM
|> To: Multiple recipients of list
|> Subject: Re: Hell's Kitchen
|>
|> Egroups is a buggy pain in the ass that tacks ads onto every post. I have
|> no idea why you'd want to run a list from there.
|>
|> -Brian
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:41:35 +0100
From: "Marko Randjelovic" <truki@EUnet.yu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Out of the ashes, I rise with morning wood.
Message-ID: <01c05a2b$9ebdb420$LocalHost@king>
|KorgX3 thinks dreams are cool.
Utterly. Great to have you back, man.
Marko
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:37:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com>
To: thoughts@spocksbeard.net, ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Symphony X skipping CD issue info
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10011291335380.1154-100000@optical.mindstorm.com>
>From Tracy Vera, a VP at Metalblade:
Gentlemen
Thanks to all your efforts it appears I have finally got this Skipping
Symphony X CD problem sorted out. There was a problem in packaging the CD's
which created a circular scratch on the play side of the disc, which is
causing the skipping. This didn't happen on all the CD's but rather is
intermittent, which is why it took so long to discover the problem. (The
manufacturer had to get a hold of an actual defective disc.)
I want the fans to be happy. So I have arranged with the manufacturer that
if someone got stuck with a skipping CD and they prefer not to return it to
the store they purchased it at, the defective disc can be returned to the
manufacturer. Later today I should have the specific info on where and to
whom to return the disc.
Once again I must ask your help. Please disseminate this information on your
respective lists and sites and tell me who else I should get the information
to. Obviously we will also post the info on the Metal Blade website.
Thanks again!
Tracy Vera
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:13:20 -0500
From: Dan Costello <axeman_dannl@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5684
Message-ID: <20001129.151342.-321845.1.Axeman_dannl@juno.com>
>stinkfist@digitalfeces.com
I don't know which is more peculiar, Korg's proclamation, or his new
e-mail address. Welcome back??? :-)
>Masturbation is SOOOO much fun!
That's nice.
-Dan.
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:49:27 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Egroups mailing lists
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A01FC29A3@ISDCRE00>
The advertisements aren't even a problem!   Seriously.   But it's no big
deal, anyone can agree to disagree  <<grin>>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Marko Randjelovic [SMTP:truki@EUnet.yu]
> Sent:	Wednesday, November 29, 2000 12:03 PM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	Re: Egroups mailing lists
> 
> 
> The ads are sometimes on the bottom sometimes on top. And the eGroups are
> letting you keep the ads out for a fee, of course.
> I don't know how much money does Skadz pays for this list, but it's about
> $60 (per year) for a no ads list on eGroups.
> 
> Marko
> -----Original Message-----
> ]From: Souter, Jan-Michael <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
> Date: Tuesday, 28 November, 2000 18:50
> Subject: Egroups mailing lists
> 
> 
> |Brian..  I'm on at least 6 Egroups lists (including the official Symphony
> X
> |mailing list) and I don't see any bugs.  And the ads are at the bottom
> (text
> |only) and aren't invasive.  NO SPAM.  Unlike the Ytsejam list..    :)
> |
> | JM
> |
> |
> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From: Brian D Hayden [SMTP:hayd0029@tc.umn.edu]
> |> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 10:48 AM
> |> To: Multiple recipients of list
> |> Subject: Re: Hell's Kitchen
> |>
> |> Egroups is a buggy pain in the ass that tacks ads onto every post. I
> have
> |> no idea why you'd want to run a list from there.
> |>
> |> -Brian
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Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:36:20 +0100
From: "Stefan Zell" <stefanzell@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: WWW.WOLVERINE-OVERDOSE.COM
Message-ID: <F168gEI0mzclKFJDUkQ00007b42@hotmail.com>
On December 13 we (Wolverine) will upload our new official HP that we feel 
will be much better than the current one. It will offer a lot more features 
and it will be updated much more frequent than the current one.
Be sure to update your bookmarks and pay us a visit, it would be very much 
appreciated.
Take care!
Regards-
Stefan of Wolverine
www.wolverine-overdose.com
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