YTSEJAM Digest 5631
Today's Topics:
1) something kind of funny, to do with radiohead
by "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
2) Re: something kind of funny, to do with radiohead
by SymphonyXtasy@aol.com
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4) Information is power 13303
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5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5630
by Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
6) Re: Nightwish DVD (ndtc)
by "Jyrki Takalo-Kastari" <jykke@nic.fi>
7) re:T'pau
by "Ashley Wong (ETL)" <ashley.wong@etl.ericsson.se>
8) Re: T'pau
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
9) Can't take the suspense...
by Mary N <mary1122@yahoo.com>
10) DTS
by "Chahram Riazi" <cr79@hotmail.com>
11) Re:lets get ready to sue people
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
12) Re: DTS
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
13) FS: a BUNCH of CDs/videos [updated 10.05.00]
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
14) Transatlantic
by DoubleJay54@aol.com
15) PS2
by Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
16) Re: PS2
by SymphonyXtasy@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 19:33:11 +1000
From: "mikel@alphalink.com.au" <mikel@alphalink.com.au>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: something kind of funny, to do with radiohead
Message-ID: <39DC4AD7.3E44D6D3@alphalink.com.au>
I just noticed this in the indie + alternative new sections of this
free music paper we get round here.
They are talking about the release of the new Radiohead album
Kid A-
"As would be expected, tracks from the album have been floating around on
the Napsters of the world for a while now- however somebody sneaky (I'd
like to think it has something to do with Radiohead themselves, but you never
know) has been doing their darnedest to confuse the dickens out of unsuspecting
fans. For example, many out there unwittingly downloading 'Idioteque' have
ended up with what in actuality is a Dream Theater (don't ask- and yes, obviously
they are American 'cos they can't spell) instrumental, and version floating about of
the 'hidden track' off Kid A are actually cut up version of Styx (remember Eric
Cartman's Come Sail Away?) attenot at creating the absolutely worst song ever,
Mr Roboto.'
By the way, it looks like us prog fans who got into OK Computer for its Pink
Floydishness, lengthy progressive/alternative song Paranoid Android, the rocking
Electioneering and Johnny Greenwood's awsome, often Frippian, style guitaring,
will be disappointed with their new album. I won't comment tho, having not heard
it.
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 06:15:59 EDT
From: SymphonyXtasy@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: something kind of funny, to do with radiohead
Message-ID: <c.b7ee6db.270daedf@aol.com>
Yeah, I got Kid A on the 3rd, and I've listened to it quite a few times.
It's very, _VERY_ different. By no means bad, but it's quite out there at
times.
Personally, I like The Bends and OK Computer more.
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 08:23:31 -0600
From: Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5630
Message-ID: <B601EB02.364%twilightzone@mindspring.com>
on 10/5/00 1:37 AM, ytsejam@torchsong.com at ytsejam@torchsong.com wrote:
> Sony Playstation 2 ! Will play games AND DVD. Kicks ass.
But who wants to play poorly designed crap. I've been reading up on all
these next-gen systems. Dreamcast is the way to go right now. $300 for a
PS2? Don't think so, even the game developers are lampooning how poorly PS2
is designed, making it hard to make games. Wait for a Nintendo GameCube(it
won't play DVDs but so what, I have a DVD player..or two).
I'm betting(not sure on this one) that there is a loss of quality as well
when playing movies. It is designed to play games first then movies second.
And who wants a DVD player without a remote control?
So with all the DTS talk I was wondering if the SFAM DVD will include a DTS
track.
And as for the Apex and the Raite "cheap" DVD players, you get what you pay
for in this situation. A friend bought one and the LCD screen broke after 2
weeks, and said the quality is like a VHS tape.
But if you want to play CD-Rs and MP3's it is a decent CD player.
-chris
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:57:47 +0300
From: "Jyrki Takalo-Kastari" <jykke@nic.fi>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Nightwish DVD (ndtc)
Message-ID: <005501c02ecb$dd5ef300$1bee26d4@masiina>
----- Original Message -----
]From: "Tanja Sorsa" <Tanja.Sorsa@fng.fi>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:44 AM
Subject: Nightwish DVD (ndtc)
>
> Another reason to by a DVD player....
>
> Nightwish to Release a DVD!
>
Great!! Stratovarius DVD in November, DT early 2001 and now Nightwish. I
knew I wouldn't have to regret buying DVD player instead of VCR.
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 17:13:21 +0200
From: "Ashley Wong (ETL)" <ashley.wong@etl.ericsson.se>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com '" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: re:T'pau
Message-ID: <0BE3EAFA8B11D3118DFC0008C75D24BE0389E0E6@euktcnt011.ericsson.se>
Graham,
Would it have been "Now That's What I Call Music 9" by any chance?
Gulp!...time to get out my wooly cardigan and comfy slippers I think :)
BTW, you or anybody here (Charlie F.!) going to Hammersmith in October?
ash.
==========
I was also utterly in love with Carol Decker when I was about 14. I was
1=
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when I eventually discovered the joys of Metal, largely thanks to a
rogue=
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onto one of those pop compilations I borrowed from my little sister.
-- =
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 17:23:41 +0000
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: T'pau
Message-ID: <39DCB91D.5877D7A7@picsel.com>
"Ashley Wong (ETL)" wrote:
> Would it have been "Now That's What I Call Music 9" by any chance?
Quite possibly. :-)
> BTW, you or anybody here (Charlie F.!) going to Hammersmith in October?
I will be at the Glasgow and London shows. My seat for the London show is
in the front row, and my position for the Glasgow show is right in the
middle of the moshpit.
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland------------------------------
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:21:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Mary N <mary1122@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Can't take the suspense... Message-ID: <20001005182114.13599.qmail@web1504.mail.yahoo.com>
Kurt,
Okay, I can't take it anymore. WHAT is this quote about?
>"Shut the f*ck up. Don't make me come down there and >kick your f*cking ass" >-James Labrie 4/16/97
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 20:09:39 GMT From: "Chahram Riazi" <cr79@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: DTS Message-ID: <F149HJAm9oAmZnrd3mA00005e20@hotmail.com>
>by the way...
>SFAM-DVD better be in DTS =)
Of course not... Not only does it penalize most of us without a DTS player but it will also seriously reduce the number of discs sold.
I can't even mention the huge amount of space needed for the DTS data to fit on the disc which would mean less space to put bonus tracks and extra stuff on the DVD. For example, the "Saving Private Ryan" DTS version doesn't have the documentary that is included with the regular version.
I rest my case.
--Chahram
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:53:35 -0500 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re:lets get ready to sue people Message-ID: <20001005.165351.-19831.2.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
ok-with all this talk.
Mike used it in the LIT video, could DT be liable for a lawsuit from buffer?
Kurt
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 19:02:53 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DTS Message-ID: <39DD089D.AF4F29F9@yunque.net>
True.. ill just say this.. if it comes with DD 5.1 surround, BE GLAD. Because there are a lot of music dvds out there, that are just surround hi fi 2.0 crap.... or worse (ie: fates dvd)
Chahram Riazi wrote:
> >by the way... > > >SFAM-DVD better be in DTS =) > > Of course not... > Not only does it penalize most of us without a DTS player but it will also > seriously reduce the number of discs sold. > > I can't even mention the huge amount of space needed for the DTS data to fit > on the disc which would mean less space to put bonus tracks and extra stuff > on the DVD. > For example, the "Saving Private Ryan" DTS version doesn't have the > documentary that is included with the regular version. > > I rest my case. > > --Chahram > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com.
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 20:18:03 -0400 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: FS: a BUNCH of CDs/videos [updated 10.05.00] Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20001005201803.007b0760@mail.erinet.com>
If you are interested in any of this stuff, email me at dtemm@yahoo.com (or at this erinet address, too). The=20 videos are at the bottom. Thanks, Dan
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:29:06 EDT From: DoubleJay54@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Transatlantic Message-ID: <34.b527951.270e76d2@aol.com>
<< >"... the band playing the song was very tired, so that some of its >members were playing the tune in 3/4, others in 2/3, and third in some >kind of Pi*squared(R) rhythm" 2/3? What's a third note? Is that like a twelfth note? I guess anything is possible. funny he asks that, but playing in Pi Squared is perfectly normal. But anywho, i was wondering if anyone booted or has a boot of any of the Transatlantic shows? I havent heard any yet and i think that would be pretty cool. Private E-mial please, thanks JJ
ps is Dustro still around????
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 00:05:09 -1200 From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: PS2 Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20001006000300.00b08bb8@pop3.norton.antivirus>
>But who wants to play poorly designed crap. I've been reading up on all >these next-gen systems. Dreamcast is the way to go right now. $300 for a >PS2? Don't think so, even the game developers are lampooning how poorly PS2 >is designed, making it hard to make games. Wait for a Nintendo GameCube(it >won't play DVDs but so what, I have a DVD player..or two).
Sorry, but that's totally bogus. As someone who is involved in the game development community, the big worry right now is whether, between the PS2 and the X-Box, PC-based gaming will survive. (Answer: of course it will) -- The only people "lampooning" the PS2 are lackeys or fans of Sega and Nintendo. Everyone else is waiting eagerly.
~Chris
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 03:34:01 EDT From: SymphonyXtasy@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: PS2 Message-ID: <90.a84a0b6.270eda69@aol.com>
>>But who wants to play poorly designed crap. I've been reading up on all >>these next-gen systems. Dreamcast is the way to go right now. $300 for a >>PS2? Don't think so, even the game developers are lampooning how poorly PS2 >>is designed, making it hard to make games. Wait for a Nintendo GameCube(it >>won't play DVDs but so what, I have a DVD player..or two). > >Sorry, but that's totally bogus. As someone who is involved in the game >development community, the big worry right now is whether, between the PS2 >and the X-Box, PC-based gaming will survive. (Answer: of course it will) >-- The only people "lampooning" the PS2 are lackeys or fans of Sega and >Nintendo. Everyone else is waiting eagerly.
You'd be surprised. First off, he IS right - game developers ARE criticizing the PS2 design. Second, it's not just "lackeys or fans of Sega and Nintendo" that are saying that PS2 sucks. Out of about 30 people in my school who played it, 27 or 28 said that it was a total piece of crap, most of which had been preaching "PLAYSTATION 2 WILL BE THE BEST EVER!!!" beforehand.
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