YTSEJAM digest 5624

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Fri Sep 29 2000 - 03:17:22 EDT


                            YTSEJAM Digest 5624

Today's Topics:

  1) Ihre Mail an / Your message to : st.behr@gmx.de
 by autoresponder@gmx.de (Autoresponder)
  2) Cradle Of Filth
 by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
  3) Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_=3C=28=A9=3F=A9=29=3E_Can_This_Be_True=3F__It_Is!!!?=
 by "Zalozba Izolit" <izolit@siol.net>
  4) Re:another rare question about DT
 by =?iso-8859-1?Q?fuci=F1os_asorey_julio?= <julio.fucios@rai.usc.es>
  5) IDIOT!!
 by "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com>
  6) Brand NEW $1000 FREE Satellite System..
 by freetva13@indiatimes.com
  7) Al Pitrelli's other band?
 by Dave <sirdave@concentric.net>
  8) AAARRRGGGHHH!!
 by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
  9) Jam in a Jam!
 by "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
 10) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5623
 by "The Honorable Ari Goldmann" <agoldman@bates.edu>
 11) Re: Jam in a Jam
 by "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
 12) Formula 1
 by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
 13) RE: YTSEJAM digest 5623
 by Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
 14) whoops! and once again, how to beat down spammers like wac-a-mols.
 by Joshua Rasiel <Josh@On-LineDesign.Com>
 15) Spirit carries on
 by "Adam N. Yarter" <jaguirre@ix.netcom.com>
 16) Re: Spirit carries on
 by "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
 17) Portnoy "Interview" about Dream Jovi
 by "Dominic H. Kallas" <dkallas@eecs.tufts.edu>
 18) Another Newbie
 by Mary N <mary1122@yahoo.com>
 19) Re: Portnoy "Interview" about Dream Jovi
 by "TheCowGod" <demccor@CLEMSON.EDU>
 20) Fates Warning U.S. Tour has been cancelled...
 by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
 21) Re: Portnoy "Interview" about Dream Jovi
 by Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
 22) Re: Portnoy "Interview" about Dream Jovi
 by "TheCowGod" <demccor@CLEMSON.EDU>
 23) so what's this i hear.....
 by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 00 07:24:02 GMT
From: autoresponder@gmx.de (Autoresponder)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Ihre Mail an / Your message to : st.behr@gmx.de
Message-ID: <20000928072402.5193vac1@mx16.gmx.net>

Folgende Nachricht wurde fuer Sie hinterlassen:
Please find below a message for you:

Sorry, aber ich bin gerade Auf Kursfahrt am Gardersee und komme erst nächsten Freitag wieder!
Melde mich dann wieder!
-Stephan

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:30:02 +0000
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Cradle Of Filth
Message-ID: <39D30F9A.4DFE4BC9@picsel.com>

I am prejudiced against Cradle Of Filth, because the guy wears make-up,
and Kerrang! likes them. So I automatically hate them, even though I have
never heard any of their music.

UNTIL I heard their cover of Iron Maiden's Hallowed Be Thy Name. Now I
want to know more about this band. I want to get one of their CDs and see
them live when they come to Glasgow in December.

Somebody tell me what CD to get.

-- 
Graham Borland                                     Picsel Technologies Ltd
graham@picsel.com                                        Glasgow, Scotland

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:16:13 +0200 From: "Zalozba Izolit" <izolit@siol.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_=3C=28=A9=3F=A9=29=3E_Can_This_Be_True=3F__It_Is!!!?= Message-ID: <001b01c0293d$9c5a95a0$0600005a@siol.net>

>> I hate bullshit like this and all the other spam-like crap that comes through on this list... I thought we were going to talk about DT and prog metal! That's it, I'm outta here... Cya <<

Why the fuck are you quoting the whole damn thing then?! I'm sure none of us aprecciate this crap, but at least we'r not quoting it and resending it back to the list. Where's yer thinking cap?!

BTW... Does anyone have any update on the Live DVD we'r all waiting for? Did they manage to fix the screwed up timecode?

Matej

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:31:05 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?fuci=F1os_asorey_julio?= <julio.fucios@rai.usc.es> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re:another rare question about DT Message-ID: <82E8057D7B40D411B3200000C0CA7DE0A85E5D@correorai.usc.es>

hi again! wow, i don't want that info for some bizarre or delictive things... = please don't understand me bad (i think this is not correct english ;)) i just wanted that info to make a rare web... and to felicitate (=BFenglish = word?) dt members in such special days for them ...

and ... does mp personally answer his mail? :-OOOOOOOO or is it = answered by his manager or personal assistent? could i email him without annoying = him?=20 do you know mi HERO's emailadd john petrucci? (if you do, please please plase please tell it to my email)

and ... thanks for the greeting! i think that i will stay here for a = long long time !!

julio fucinos asorey julio.fucios@rai.usc.es

pd: sorry for my english... i know it's too bad ...

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Date: 28 Sep 2000 11:30:19 -0000 From: "Awake ." <awake@buffymail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: IDIOT!! Message-ID: <20000928113019.32022.qmail@musone.chek.com>

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Prior to his evisceration, "Tim Willis" <tim@coderite.com> wrote:

>I hate bullshit like this and all the other spam-like >crap that comes through on this list... I thought we

On behalf of everyone in Digest mode: Yes, we all hate spam; but most of us have the common snse NOT TO REPOST THE FUCKING THING ALL OVER AGAIN! And there was me thinking that DT fans had a higher IQ than the average music fan. >:(

"Cya" - won't miss "ya"

~Simon

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Date: 9/28/2000 8:30 From: Dave <sirdave@concentric.net> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Al Pitrelli's other band? Message-ID: <200009281227.IAA06578@newman.concentric.net>

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Hey guys,

Check this site out.

http://www.placecalledrage.com

I haven't looked around the website yet, but I wanted to pass it along.

-Dave

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:49:59 -0500 From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: AAARRRGGGHHH!! Message-ID: <20000928.075433.-19571.1.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>

<I hate bullshit like this and all the other spam-like crap that comes through on this list... I thought we were going to talk about DT and prog metal! That's it, I'm outta here... Cya>

So you write the jam bitching about it, and reply qouting the whole frickin thing!

Kurt' NP-Queensryche "Scared Ground"- (ok shoot me, its not that bad)

ytsekurt on AOL instant messenger temporary trade page-www.geocities.com/Kurt_labrie/kurtsboots.html "Shut the f*ck up. Don't make me come down there and kick your f*cking ass" -James Labrie 4/16/97

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:02:44 -0400 From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Jam in a Jam! Message-ID: <006f01c02954$c5eb2e90$b084c5cf@crp.org>

Yikes! What is going on?

> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 00 17:02:38 GMT > From: autoresponder@gmx.de (Autoresponder) > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Ihre Mail an / Your message to : st.behr@gmx.de > Message-ID: <20000927170238.5952vac1@mx04.gmx.net>

Dude! Turn your autoresponder off! What's the point, he *is* gone, isn't = he? D'oh!

> From: Jeff VanBlarcom <jvanblarcom@rpa.com>

> Thanks for removing me from your list > Jeff =3D

Jeff, we haven't removed you just yet. How long can you beg?

> From: Dgnr8rock@aol.com > Subject: Dream Jovi?! > Just thought I'd share that with everyone. And I'm sure glad THAT never > happened! I think in hindsight that we should count our lucky stars tha= t we > got Derek instead of David Bryan in the band.

Well, I would have liked to see that. Why knock somthing that didn't even happen? How can you thank your "lucky" stars if you never heard a snippet= of the outcome of such a collaboration? Then again, I like Bon Jovi.

> From: Gina0927@Desertmail.com > Subject: <(=A9?=A9)> Can This Be True? It Is!!!

Of course it is not true. Thats why you have to rely on spamming our list= =2E

> From: "Tim Willis" <tim@coderite.com> > I hate bullshit like this and all the other spam-like crap that comes > through on this list... I thought we were going to talk about DT and pr= og > metal! > That's it, I'm outta here... > Cya

You hate spam, right? I hate spam as much as you do. But, next time, snip= it =66rom your reply to the jam, please.

--------- Now to spark some conversation (or piss off as many peple as I did over a= t mikeportnoy.com), why do people feel the need to talk out of their ears a= t DT concerts? I mean, is JhonP's new rig that exciting that you need to ta= lk about every single piecce of equipment in it while he's performing a heartfelt solo? Does anyone ever go to DT shows anymore to actually liste= n to the music and witness the performance, or have they become the prog world's equivalent of a mall food court?

joe NP: Journey - Arrival

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:16:41 -0400 From: "The Honorable Ari Goldmann" <agoldman@bates.edu> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 5623 Message-ID: <NDBBIKGKKLCGJMPIJKOKMEKPCBAA.agoldman@bates.edu>

>I hate bullshit like this and all the other spam-like crap that comes >through on this list... I thought we were going to talk about DT and prog >metal! >That's it, I'm outta here... >Cya

Good call, dipshit. Bitching about the extensive spam and then pasting the ENTIRE thing in you post. Keep on thinking there, bro.

Ari :-)

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:54:33 -0400 From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Jam in a Jam Message-ID: <00cd01c0295c$0328a7e0$b084c5cf@crp.org>

> From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org> > To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Subject: Jam in a Jam!

Ok, after that, everyone and anyone can call me a fucking idiot as well.

joe hides his head in shame SP: Journey - Arrival

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:57:05 +0200 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Formula 1 Message-ID: <39D307E1.F0C2EA11@mol.com.mk>

> From: "Bill Blanchard" <wildbill2112@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: Satch and Vai, Formula 1 > > The song is by just Joe Satriani and is from the > playstation game Formula 1.

Thanx dude.

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:05:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 5623 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.0009281003070.314-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>

The only thing funnier than him quoting it and bitching about it is a day's worth of posts bitching about the bitching. And then another day's posts bitching about my bitching about bitching about the bitching, and then me bitching back at the bitchety bitches, and then Cousin Joey bringing the bitchsmak down on all the bitching bitchy-bitchers.

"Fuckety fuckety fuckety fuckety fuckety!" - Les Claypool

-Brian

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On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, The Honorable Ari Goldmann wrote:

> Good call, dipshit. Bitching about the extensive spam and then pasting the > ENTIRE thing in you post. Keep on thinking there, bro. > > Ari :-) > >

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:29:19 -0400 From: Joshua Rasiel <Josh@On-LineDesign.Com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: whoops! and once again, how to beat down spammers like wac-a-mols. Message-ID: <39D363AC.A189B639@On-LineDesign.Com>

I truly apologize for yesterday's html deluge.

Anybody wanna come on down to NY and kick my ass, go ahead. you punks want a piece of me? bring it on!

in case nobody read the jibberish(likely) i will repost it now, and amanda, don't be trying to equate my blunder with total disregard and consideration for others. also, you are a nerd. :) .................. Folks, we once again got spammed yesterday.... for an advertisment on HOW TO SPAM!!!!!

don't give up hope yet. True, the pointless "click here to stop receiving messages from this sender" is a nelson-esque "haw-haw!" from the true, invisible originator. since they never use the same email addy twice, they think they're safe as houses.

here's the thing, folks. they HAVE to provide some kind of conctact info - REAL info. they must. otherwise, how would we order the product? in this case, it's a fax number. so all we have to do is take a few sheets of paper, tape 'em into a strip, write " YOU HAVE BEEN STRICKEN DOWN BY THE YSTEJAM MINISTRY OF RETRIBUTION TO SPAMMERS, BITCHIES", start the fax, and when the taped-together-paper is halfway through, tape the beginning to the end, forming a never-ending circle that will prevent any actual fax orders from coming through. any one person could do this, but aren't group projects more fun?

i got all this from a book i saw called "steal this book".

-josh ......................

and there you go.

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:06:07 -0700 From: "Adam N. Yarter" <jaguirre@ix.netcom.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Spirit carries on Message-ID: <002101c02966$04095f60$c922fea9@adamyart>

> is it really, or are you tricking (i don't know if i am using this word > properly... my english is too bad ...) on a novice ??? ;))) > it might be real, because the volume is going down at the final of the boot > and james doesn' sing ... > please tell me (us) more !!! (the date is 04/02/2000)

ope, that's not it, or the date is incorrect. I was at the Cali show that got shut down, and teh date was 02/04/2000. Feb 4th. Then again, maybe you messed up on the date.

04/02 could be 02/04.

regards, Ada

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:14:52 -0400 From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Spirit carries on Message-ID: <012701c02967$3b76ddf0$b084c5cf@crp.org>

When writing out a date in Spanish, the day goes before the month. Thus, he was technically correct ;)

joe

> 04/02 could be 02/04. > > regards, > Ada

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:16:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dominic H. Kallas" <dkallas@eecs.tufts.edu> To: The ytsejam mailing list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Portnoy "Interview" about Dream Jovi Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10009281201520.19168-100000@andante>

> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:44:53 EDT > From: Dgnr8rock@aol.com > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Dream Jovi?! > Message-ID: <3f.ac368eb.27039a25@aol.com> > > > Hi everybody, > I was going through some of my issues of Drum Luck magazine and found this > short interview with Mike Portnoy from back afte Derek just joined the band. > I think it's pretty shocking! Read this excerpt: > > Drum Luck: So, Mike, let's talkt about yoy keyboardest situation for a > moment. How's it working out with Derek> > Mike Portnoy: Oh, it's working out terrific. His style is just great for what > we're doing with the new record. He brings a rock > and roll kind of sensibility to what we're doing and the > whole thing is just working out great. We're feeding off > his vibe just as much as he's feeding off of ours. > DL: So, was he your first choice all along or were there any others: > MP: Well, he was in our mind the whole time as a guy we wanted. We did look > at other possibilities though. Um, there's this guy Jordan Rudess. who's > worked with the Dixie Dregs amon other things, who I think is just amazing. > But that never worked out do to scheduling. He's a guy we were > considering. There's this guy Armon Hammer, who is a bit unknown, even in > our circle, who is really up and coming. He's in a band called Arbitrator > and has a solo project out on Recall Records called "Keys to Success." We > kind of thought he's a little too raw for us though. > DL: Anyone else or was that it? > MP: Well, there was one other guy, whom is kind of a known guy. but thats all > I'll say about it. > DL: Oh, come one. Mike! Let us in here! > MP: Well, ok. Actually, we had some talks with David Bryan from Bon Jovi. > He's kind of loyal to that band, which I can understand, but they're kind > of in an unknown holing pattern right now, so I figured I'd go for it. He > has that kind of vibe that we're looking to get on the next record.. Plus, > I think he's really really underrated. Bad Medicine has a kind of vibe > going that we could never get with Kevin, as good as he is. Plus, I'd > absolutely love love love to do a cover of Born to Be My Baby, and how > great would it be to get David himself to play on it. But alas, it wasn't > meant to be and we're very happy now with Derek.

I realised that this was a joke when I read that they were considering "Armon Hammer," even though he could have served many purposes... It would have been funny if they did have David Bryan as their keyboardist... Could you have pictured them covering "Born to Be My Baby" for the ACoS EP or for one of their Christmas shows? What about "Runaway," "Dead or Alive," or- lest we forget- "Living on A Prayer" (probably THE anthem of the '80s)... Who would make a better dueling duet: Richie Sambora and John Petrucci or Mike Portnoy and Tico Torres? Don't forget: "we've got to hold on to what we've got- it doesn't make a difference if we make it or not..." :-P

Electronically, Dom

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:59:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Mary N <mary1122@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Another Newbie Message-ID: <20000928225955.10351.qmail@web1502.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello! I'm new to the list also. I don't really have anything worthwile to say *yet*, I'm just making my presence known. ;)

Mary

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:17:41 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@CLEMSON.EDU> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Portnoy "Interview" about Dream Jovi Message-ID: <003201c029a2$4ccf7900$702010ac@clemson.edu>

]From: "Dominic H. Kallas" <dkallas@eecs.tufts.edu> Subject: Portnoy "Interview" about Dream Jovi

> keyboardist... Could you have pictured them covering "Born to Be My Baby" > for the ACoS EP or for one of their Christmas shows? What about > "Runaway," "Dead or Alive," or- lest we forget- "Living on A Prayer"

yeah... heh... good thing DT would never stoop so low as to cover something like "Dead or Alive" huh? <whistles, slides Subconscious under carpet...> hehe. moo.

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:35:35 -0700 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: Fates Warning Mailing List <fateswarning@egroups.com> Cc: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com>, Subject: Fates Warning U.S. Tour has been cancelled... Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20000928203310.009eec90@pop.earthlink.net>

Sorry for the bad news, but it looks like the U.S. tour is off...

Go to the News page at "Island In The Stream" for a message from Jim Matheos. http://www.ivorygate.com/fw/news.htm

~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<

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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:26:23 -0500 From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Portnoy "Interview" about Dream Jovi Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000929052623.018afe84@pi-r-squared.com>

>yeah... heh... good thing DT would never stoop so low as to cover something >like "Dead or Alive" huh? <whistles, slides Subconscious under carpet...> >hehe. moo. > > >*** END OF TRANSMISSION ***

Wasn't that just Chris Collins though? Well.. it was a tape that JP made for one of his students. lol.

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-Bertolt Brecht. Mother Courage and her Children

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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:19:53 -0400 From: "TheCowGod" <demccor@CLEMSON.EDU> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Portnoy "Interview" about Dream Jovi Message-ID: <007901c029d4$e8d28450$702010ac@clemson.edu>

]From: "Brad Plumb" <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com> Subject: Re: Portnoy "Interview" about Dream Jovi

> Wasn't that just Chris Collins though? Well.. it was a tape that JP made for > one of his students. lol.

hehe i know it was just JP and not the whole band, but it still seemed funny that he mentioned that one specifically :) moo.

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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:33:06 GMT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: so what's this i hear..... Message-ID: <F1648EBN1g918oWo7w000002afa@hotmail.com>

....about the fates warning tour being cancelled? not that i would have made it to a show, the detroit area being left off their itinerary (sp?).....

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