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Today's Topics:

  1) Scott Mosher - and the "little" jams
 by "Ambassador Nelaskon" <moc_liam@mail.com>
  2) siamese monster
 by rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com>
  3)
 by "morphaieus s3dcn4" <morphaieus@hotmail.com>
  4) Re: Queensryche
 by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
  5) Re:nightime nostalgia...
 by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
  6) Re: your mail
 by Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
  7) Promised Land
 by "Michael Pruchnicki" <Michael.Pruchnicki@computec.de>
  8) Re:nightime nostalgia...
 by Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
  9) RE: nightime nostalgia...
 by "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
 10) cd burners........
 by Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
 11) Re: cd burners........
 by Mrinal Kalakrishnan <mrinal@mrinal.dhs.org>
 12) RE: nightime nostalgia...
 by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
 13) Cell Phone Rings
 by "Jim" <jgibbons33@home.com>
 14) Sorry!
 by "Rahul Ananda (S&T Onsite)" <a-rahula@microsoft.com>
 15) Re: Cell Phone Rings
 by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
 16) DT Ringtones for Cell Phones
 by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
 17) Region 2 "Metropolis 2000" re-release
 by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
 18) RE: Re: cd burners........
 by PWorrall@netscape.net (Pat Worrall)

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Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 17:11:28 +0800
From: "Ambassador Nelaskon" <moc_liam@mail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Scott Mosher - and the "little" jams
Message-ID: <20010809091128.32348.qmail@mail.com>

>>> Anyhow, anyone who is into
Trance, Tangerine Dream, Rush, Fates Warning, Dream Theater, Kitaro, Dr. Pepper,
evil jazz, whirlpool kitchen appliances and Ralph Nader may want to check out my
new CD. <<<

I have been meaning to comment on this for a while, but I guess I wanted to wait until I actually heard the CD. But to hell with that idea. :)

I WILL get the CD, but you asked for comments, so I will comment on what I have heard. Trance and progmetal have been needing a fusion for as long as I can remember ... before I even knew what "trance" or "progmetal" were. While I do hear a little more Royal Hunt than DT or whatever (probably why you don't say "progmetal" in the description of your style), the clips I've heard indicate that the CD *could* end up being the best I have ever heard in the end.

Right now I give that honor to Symphony X's newest masterpiece.

I will email you on the side when I get a chance. You wanted honest opinions on the plus and minus side, and perhaps it would help if you knew who my favorite band of all time is. :)

- Cyaron

PS: Why is the jam so ... slow now? I mean, it is better not having 5 messages of 25K each in the mailbox, but I don't understand the slowdown.

Thanks!

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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 04:12:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: rob denni <drummerdream@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: siamese monster
Message-ID: <20010809111253.47904.qmail@web10702.mail.yahoo.com>
 From what I understand, MP merged his DT kit with his
LT kit, hence the word "siamese".  Whatever tune he is
playing at the moment will determine where he sits and
what he plays.  I don't really consider that overkill,
especially since guitarist are allowed to switch
guitars all night for diferent songs.  Why not drummers?
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Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 13:39:00 +0000
From: "morphaieus s3dcn4" <morphaieus@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Message-ID: <F208XrhQ8UVEtDYZ3Lp00002a3f@hotmail.com>
>yeah, i actually do listen to Q2K periodically, because i honestly enjoy
>some of the stuff on there, such as "Liquid Sky" & "Right Side of My
>Mind".  however, when it comes to HitNF, i could probably count the times
>i've played it through on one hand & not run out of fingers.  deffinetly
>their worst showing IMHO.  i think we all wish they would go back to the
>days of O:M and RfO, even Empire.  who knows, there may still be hope.
did anybody like Promised Land?  that was one of my fave albums of all 
time...
morphy
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Date: 09 Aug 2001 15:20:26 +0100
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Queensryche
Message-ID: <86u1zhe2mt.fsf@picsel.com>
Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> writes:
> I listen to Q2K ocasionally. I like it, its a step up but no where
> near the old stuff.
I have listened to Q2K exactly once. It now lies at the bottom of my
pile, never to be touched again.
-- 
Graham Borland                                   Picsel Technologies Ltd
graham@picsel.com                                      Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:20:13 -0500
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re:nightime nostalgia...
Message-ID: <20010809.102014.-337483.0.kurt.hampton@juno.com>
Where is the fuck up in the 1st version of TSM? I have listened over and
over, and they sound on....maybe im just really stoopid or something I
dunno.
Im sure most of you guys know by know...Iced Earth got a slot on the US
leg of the Judas Priest Anthrax tour. They really needed that, and I am
happy Spet 25th New Orleans HOB. I bought the ticket without knowing that
IE would be added. Life is good.
NP-Watching Over Me
Kurts Trade Page:
www.geocities.com/kurt_labrie/Startpage.html
Ytsekurt on AOL IM
"Cmon Orlando Shake you f*ckin booty" James Labrie 3/3/00
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 11:52:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: your mail
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1010809114851.1279A-100000@sparcy.geneva.edu>
On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, morphaieus s3dcn4 wrote:
> >yeah, i actually do listen to Q2K periodically, because i honestly enjoy
> >some of the stuff on there, such as "Liquid Sky" & "Right Side of My
> >Mind".  however, when it comes to HitNF, i could probably count the times
> >i've played it through on one hand & not run out of fingers.  deffinetly
> >their worst showing IMHO.  i think we all wish they would go back to the
> >days of O:M and RfO, even Empire.  who knows, there may still be hope.
> 
> did anybody like Promised Land?  that was one of my fave albums of all 
> time...
> 
absolutely loved it.  if there were to ever have been a hybrid of sorts
between old classic QR & something resembling Pink Floyd, that would've
been it.  excellent album.  has anyone gotten the "Grts. Hits" disc that
has a 7 minute, full-band version of "Someone Else" on it?  what did that
wind up sounding like?  just curious.
					-eric
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:06:05 +0200
From: "Michael Pruchnicki" <Michael.Pruchnicki@computec.de>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Promised Land
Message-ID: <2266D0630E43BB4290742247C89105750B49D9@dozer.computec.de>
> absolutely loved it.  if there were to ever have been a 
> hybrid of sorts
> between old classic QR & something resembling Pink Floyd, 
> that would've
> been it.  excellent album.  
Yup, one of the best CDs ever IMHO. It's weird that
many QR fans didn't like it. Probably too arty :))
> has anyone gotten the "Grts. 
> Hits" disc that
> has a 7 minute, full-band version of "Someone Else" on it?  
> what did that
> wind up sounding like?  just curious.
It was also included on the jp. PL and the Bridge single.
And it sounds great, really. It has that typical PL sound
with saxophone and everything. I love both versions!
- Mike
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:08:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re:nightime nostalgia...
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1010809120122.1279B-100000@sparcy.geneva.edu>
On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Kurt M Hampton wrote:
> Where is the fuck up in the 1st version of TSM? I have listened over and
> over, and they sound on....maybe im just really stoopid or something I
> dunno.
> 
the only distinct thing that i can hear is right in the beginning.  JLB
sings, "A question welled served; is silence *&%# a fever."  He kinda does
his little word slur thing that he does on the "Scenes From New York"
during Through My Words, where he sings, "We're &*%$#@! one eternity,
living in two minds."  It's like he for a split second forgot what to
sing, starts to sing a different word, suddenly remembers, tries to slur
back into it, but it's too late.  That's the only thing that i can hear,
but that seems like such a minor detail to repeat a song over, i don't
know whether that is it or not.  maybe they just weren't happy with the
way it went after that mistake, so they just plodded through the rest of
the song.  The 2nd version does sound a little more energetic, so maybe
that's the case.
					-eric
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:22:46 -0400
From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: nightime nostalgia...
Message-ID: <NFBBIBPOPKKHOIBDBJLKEEBLCFAA.hrivera@crp.org>
Wish I had the CD with me right here, but, from what I remember, there was a
pretty obvious fuck up in the last chorus where either JP or MP fell out of
rhythm. I also remember JPs playing being a bit sloppy at the beginning of
that first take.
But what do I know?
joe
> Where is the fuck up in the 1st version of TSM? I have listened over and
> over, and they sound on....maybe im just really stoopid or something I
> dunno.
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:26:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
To: "The 'Jam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: cd burners........
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1010809122328.1606A-100000@sparcy.geneva.edu>
hey there folks,
	quick question about cd burners.  everytime i burn a cd,
specifically an entire album, the burner automatically interjects a little
1-2 second gap in between each song.  how can i burn an entire album,
still have the individual tracks, but not any gaps in between them.  i
know it can be done, i'm just not sure how.  any help would be GREATLY
appreciated.
					-eric
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 22:25:45 +0530
From: Mrinal Kalakrishnan <mrinal@mrinal.dhs.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: cd burners........
Message-ID: <20010809222545.C5442@mrinal.dhs.org>
Hi,
Eric George typed:
> 	quick question about cd burners.  everytime i burn a cd,
> specifically an entire album, the burner automatically interjects a little
> 1-2 second gap in between each song.  how can i burn an entire album,
> still have the individual tracks, but not any gaps in between them.  i
> know it can be done, i'm just not sure how.  any help would be GREATLY
> appreciated.
You have to enable "Disk-At-Once" writing in your CD writing program,
then there won't be a gap between tracks.
HTH..
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:10:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: nightime nostalgia...
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0108091309130.80946-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
> Where is the fuck up in the 1st version of TSM? I have listened over
> and over, and they sound on....maybe im just really stoopid or
> something I dunno.
Well, the one that I heard that nobody else seems to have mentioned (save
for that "messes up a little at the beginning" one) is the one I consider
to be the biggest fuck-up:  When JP comes in for that first time, and then
the rest of the band comes in, he waits an extra bar before starting the
chorus chords over again, so he ends up out of sync with the rest of the
band.  This basically throws everybody off.
It took some listening to figure out exactly what the problem is, though,
because they were really good at covering it up.
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a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:25:13 -0500
From: "Jim" <jgibbons33@home.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Cell Phone Rings
Message-ID: <000b01c120f8$45e37f80$e855b718@nwhub1.in.home.com>
Time for my annual de-lurk...
I always though the intro to Wait For Sleep would be a cool Ring. Of course
the Cell Phone I just bought doesnt have programmable rings...*sigh*
NP: Spock's Beard-Day For Night
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:35:09 -0700
From: "Rahul Ananda (S&T Onsite)" <a-rahula@microsoft.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Sorry!
Message-ID: <AF9E69C4CBFA3C4AA40068F03A28614502D45898@RED-MSG-11.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
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Uh...sorry about my last post (the Tool review that was all fucked).
Don't know what happened. If this one is OK, I'll resend.
 
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:50:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Rings
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0108091349170.88533-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Jim wrote:
> I always though the intro to Wait For Sleep would be a cool Ring. Of
> course the Cell Phone I just bought doesnt have programmable
> rings...*sigh*
That reminds me... I don't know if I ever posted this to the jam (and if I
have, forgive me), but I recorded a couple of DT covers, just for fun, and
though people might like to hear them...
Wait For Sleep: ftp://cout.dhs.org/pub/andrew/WFS_Full.mp3
The Silent Man (First Half): ftp://cout.dhs.org/pub/andrew/silentman.mp3
Let me know what you think! :)  For information regarding how I did those
two songs, go to http://cout.dhs.org/musicfiles.html
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:44:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: DT Ringtones for Cell Phones
Message-ID: <m15Uwf5-000JltC@mail.interzone.com>
>
>i remember people trying to figure out dream theater cell phone rings and
>what not...
>did anybody ever come up with any?  i just got a new phone and can program
>in songs for rings.
>i tried digging through the old jams but that's too much of a pain in the
>ass.
>
	I'd suggest going to Yahoo and searching for Dream Theater 
Ringtones.
	I got a number of links that way including this one for Ericsson
phones: http://hem.fyristorg.com/mattsson/ericsson.html
				Steve
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Date:   Thu, 9 Aug 2001 22:38:55 +0200
From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>, <themirror@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Region 2 "Metropolis 2000" re-release
Message-ID: <001a01c12113$4f035c00$0100007f@localhost>
  Hey all,
  According to DT's label, they are aiming to release the remastered
  Region 2 PAL DVD of "Metropolis 2000" on September 10th, 2001,
  simultaneously with the release of the 3-CD live album...
  At the following address you can see the sticker that will be on
  the box under the shrink wrap to assure that you are purchasing
  the "correct" version:
  http://www.dreamtheater.net/newsdt.htm#paldvd2
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Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 20:06:31 -0400
From: PWorrall@netscape.net (Pat Worrall)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: RE: Re: cd burners........
Message-ID: <4CF6D3AB.50259EF0.007AC117@netscape.net (Pat Worrall)>
Some programs also let you change the time between tracks, depends on what program you're using
Mrinal Kalakrishnan <mrinal@mrinal.dhs.org> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Eric George typed:
>>   quick question about cd burners.  everytime i burn a cd,
>> specifically an entire album, the burner automatically interjects a little
>> 1-2 second gap in between each song.  how can i burn an entire album,
>> still have the individual tracks, but not any gaps in between them.  i
>> know it can be done, i'm just not sure how.  any help would be GREATLY
>> appreciated.
>
>You have to enable "Disk-At-Once" writing in your CD writing program,
>then there won't be a gap between tracks.
>
>HTH..
>
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>Linux 2.4.3 || PGP:B1E86F5B || Mutt 1.3.20i (2001-07-24) || VIM 6.0t ALPHA 
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>
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