YTSEJAM digest 5939

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Wed Aug 22 2001 - 06:59:13 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5939

    Today's Topics:

      1) Superior plays Prog Power festival Europe!
     by Bernd.Basmer@t-online.de
      2) Michelle -->
     by Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com>
      3) dancing around on stage
     by "Jan Michael" <dtjammer@hotmail.com>
      4) Re: dancing around on stage
     by "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
      5) Re: dancing around on stage
     by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
      6) My 15 minutes of fame
     by ponte@epix.net
      7) Re: Vai too rehearsed
     by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
      8) Indonesian Progressive Festival 2001
     by "Sigit Prabowo" <tekpps05@bni.co.id>
      9) Saw a nice show :)
     by LaxBoy329@aol.com
     10) Indonesian Prog Festival press release
     by "Sigit Prabowo" <tekpps05@bni.co.id>
     11) Re: Saw a nice show :)
     by WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
     12) Spocks Beard
     by DoubleJay54@aol.com
     13) Re: Inspiration Corner
     by "Sigit Prabowo" <tekpps05@bni.co.id>
     14) Michael Angelo / Nitro (was : Petrucci On Stage)
     by "Sigit Prabowo" <tekpps05@bni.co.id>
     15) Re: Inspiration Corner
     by "Sigit Prabowo" <tekpps05@bni.co.id>

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:02:16 +0200 (MEST)
    From: Bernd.Basmer@t-online.de
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Superior plays Prog Power festival Europe!
    Message-ID: <998398786.3b825b42139a6@webmail.t-online.de>

    Hi!

    Some good news for the European jammers! We will play at the
    Progpower Festival on October 5th! I hope to meet a lot of jammers
    there again like it was 2 years ago. We're looking forward to this
    event very much because it was one of the best organized concerts
    we have ever played.

    Hope to see ya there! :)

    Greetings

    Bernd
    Superior

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:02:18 -0400
    From: Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Michelle -->
    Message-ID: <3B82699E.F3E5934F@mindspring.com>

    I think you also hit the nail on the head. I appreciate your words in response to mine. Then again this IS a DT/Progressive board, so the opinions and viewpoints herein are expected to run the gamut, but still... Diversity to me, is a godsend, and actually, a requisite characteristic of music and the arts in general. But then, that's my opinion and I maybe wrong....

    Scott M. (Progressive activist/musician, Diverse dude, Dr. Pepper Aficianado)
    http://www.theambientmind.com
    http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality/
    http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/mosh

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:57:52 -0500
    From: "Jan Michael" <dtjammer@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: dancing around on stage
    Message-ID: <F1555BMYiN8ZslP53em00014ec7@hotmail.com>

    I could not agree more. DT does not dance around on stage. If someone
    wants to see band members dancing around, go see some of the Nu-Metal bands
    jumping around on stage.

    JM

    >From: fredrik@kilander.com
    >Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    >Subject: nicholas sakkos' comments in 5934
    >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:17:27 -0700 (PDT)
    >
    >Rudess IS a real band member(wee..) and DT PLAYS MUSIC, they dont DANCE...
    > If
    >you want to see stage coreography, take a look at Backstreet Boys (may god
    >forbid...) geez..
    >

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:25:15 -0400
    From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: dancing around on stage
    Message-ID: <002701c12a66$3e1ea0f0$d0e1f240@crp.org>

    A little synchronized headbanging and feet shuffling has never hurt anyone.
    I'd love to see the band pick up more on James' dance moves.

    joe

    > I could not agree more. DT does not dance around on stage. If someone
    > wants to see band members dancing around, go see some of the Nu-Metal
    bands
    > jumping around on stage.

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:33:15 -0400
    From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: dancing around on stage
    Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010821152712.01b4e7e0@cs.millersville.edu>

    >DT does not dance around on stage. If someone
    >wants to see band members dancing around, go see some of the Nu-Metal bands
    >jumping around on stage.

    Plenty of bands were energetic before nu-metal came along. Ever seen a
    clip of the Who in concert from back in the day? A little more on-stage
    energy wouldn't hurt Dream Theater at all, and, remember, moving around and
    having fun on stage doesn't equal 'dancing'. Of course, all of this is
    pretty much a moot point, since getting people to come out to their shows
    is really a problem at these days -- I've never seen them in any less than
    a near-packed house.

    Brian

    [NP...Crowbar -- Sonic Excess In Its Purest Form]

    =============================================
    WB Henderson [wbhender@cs.millersville.edu]
    Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio): http://ahp.musicpage.com/
    Metalmaton Grit Patrol (metal-radio): http://www.wixq.com/metal/MGP/
    WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com/
    WIXQ-METAL: http://www.wixq.com/metal/
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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:58:15 -0700
    From: ponte@epix.net
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: My 15 minutes of fame
    Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20010821185544.00c3c290@in.epix.net>

    First.. what the Magic Bag did to Spocks Beard Sux

    Check out Tuesday's edition of the Wall Street Journal, Page B3

    That's me ... My only moment of fame :)

    Dream Theater are gods!

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:21:02 -0700
    From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Vai too rehearsed
    Message-ID: <B7A848FE.241C%schansen@cts.com>

    Rob Denni said:
    > I would like to respond to the person who said that
    > Vai's set was all rehearsed. Well, my friend, what do
    > you think JP and Satch's set were, improvised? At
    > least with Vai's show, I wasn't able to predict what
    > was about to happen, rehearsed or not.

    You would have, had you seen more than one show. I saw 3 shows right in a
    row and everything was exactly the same in Vai's sets - even his comentary
    between songs was exactly the same! Tell me if this sounds familiar:
    "It's a great honor and a privilege to be playing for you people tonight."

    The *only* time I specifically remember him mentioning a city was when he
    introduced Mike Keneally as San Diego's "homeboy" when they played here. So
    yes Vai was too rehearsed as if he was on autopilot - there was absolutely
    nothing different in what (or even how) he played each of the 3 nights I saw
    him. While I don't expect him to change his set, the commentary could've
    been a little more personalized and he didn't have to perform every single
    flashy thing the same every night.

    Scott

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    Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:18:03 +0700
    From: "Sigit Prabowo" <tekpps05@bni.co.id>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Indonesian Progressive Festival 2001
    Message-ID: <013f01c12aa8$4b055ec0$0cca17ac@sigitprabowo>

    Hi all,

    This is to inform you that prog is also alive and well here in Indonesia. We
    will be having our own version of ProgFest in Jakarta. The show is scheduled
    for September 7. It will be on an open-air venue, capacity approx. 1500
    people. Headlining the show will be Discus, Indonesia's current hottest prog
    export. Those of you in the US might remember them from ProgDay 2000, which
    they played along with Kopecky. Their album, "1st", is available through
    Mellow Records.

    On a side note, tomorrow I will be interviewing Mike Portnoy before his
    clinic at Hard Rock Cafe Jakarta. Sooo excited !! Earlier this year I was MC
    for John Myung's clinic in Jakarta, so this year I'm very lucky :) Hopefully
    the band will do a show next year ... BTW we are planning an
    international-scale festival next year. Daniel Gildenlow and Pain Of
    Salvation have shown interest to play. We also hope to get a band from the
    US.

    Of course we will be recording the prog festival and the MP interview, so
    anyone interested in MP3s please reserve through my address.

    Thanks all, and please wish us luck.

    Progressively yours,
    Sigit Prabowo
    np Under The Sun "Seeing Eye God" ---> (now where's the followup to this
    awesome debut ?????)

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    Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:09:31 EDT
    From: LaxBoy329@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Saw a nice show :)
    Message-ID: <fe.b090287.28b46e5b@aol.com>

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    This may not exactly be about a prog show but i saw WSOU's riverfront rampage
    in newark nj. It was great 20 bands from 12 noon till midnight. The show was
    definitely in a very heavy direction though.. But bands of note from that
    show would be:

    Waterdown: God damn these guys are awesome i love there structure of vocals :)
    Among Thieves: These guys are VERY unique and have a great sound to them

    There were so many bands on the bill though dunno if u heard of and of em and
    if u did gimme some album advice :P

    ...Lamb of god, God Forbid, Thursday, Chaimera, The misfits, Overkill,
    Vision of disorder, Hatebreed, Shades Apart, Skinlab, Biohazard, and ill nino

    It was a nice 15 year anniversery for a radio station that regularly plays DT

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    Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:36:13 +0700
    From: "Sigit Prabowo" <tekpps05@bni.co.id>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Indonesian Prog Festival press release
    Message-ID: <019301c12aaa$d42fe4c0$0cca17ac@sigitprabowo>

    INDONESIAN PROGRESSIVE SOCIETY
    proudly present:

    INDONESIA PROGRESSIVE FESTIVAL 2001
    a parade of fresh progressive music

    Bale Ayer Taman Ria Senayan, Jakarta
    Friday, September 7th 2001
    4 p.m. onwards

    Headliners:
    DISCUS
    This 7-piece band appeared to ProgDay USA 2000 and BajaProg Mexico 2001 and
    have released their debut album, Discus 1st, on Italian Mellow Records
    (worldwide) and Aquarius Musikindo (Indonesia). Discus has several other
    well acclaimed performances during their short tour in USA as well as some
    local gigs in Jakarta and Bandung. Recently they were honored as the opening
    band in this year's Jakarta Anniversary.

    Discus' uniqueness in blending progressive rock with ethnic, jazz and
    chamber music honored the band as the pioneer in the rebirth of Indonesia's
    progressive rock. At Indonesian Progressive Festival 2001, Discus will
    perform highlights from their first album and songs from their forthcoming
    new album scheduled for release this September!

    SMESTA
    Indonesian Neo-prog? This 6-piece band offers us well-composed songs in the
    Neo-progressive vein. While preparing their debut album, Smesta has
    performed several times received acknowledge from media. Their first album
    is scheduled to release also this September.

    PENDULUM
    This Indonesian progressive-metal-fusion quartet has countless local gigs
    experience. Pendulum offers another dimension of progressive-metal-fusion,
    this all-instrumental band will definitely rock the audience. They will
    perform songs from their upcoming debut album. The Indonesian Progressive
    Festival 2001 will be their first time major public appearance as Pendulum!

    Plus many young progressive bands from major Indonesian universities

    ABOUT THE VENUE
    Bale Ayer is a venue inside Taman Ria Senayan complex. Located in central
    Jakarta this lakeside stage is very popular for its remarkable outdoor
    environment. Excellent sound system and lighting will definitely highlight
    progressive music to the outdoor crowd.

    Ticket price:
    Rp 50.000,- each except Rp 20.000,- for students
    (note : that's USD 5.88 and USD 2.35, respectively !)

    Ticket box : TMC Music, Mall Ambassador. However you can also contact us and
    book in advance. Please contact us by sending details to our email address
    below.

    More Information:
    Indonesian Progressive Society Secretary Office email: id_prog@yahoo.com

    Witness the resurrection of Indonesian progressive music!!!!

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    Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 01:20:18 -0400
    From: WB Henderson <wbhender@cs.millersville.edu>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Saw a nice show :)
    Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010822003711.01b5eec0@cs.millersville.edu>

    >...Lamb of god

    They only have one album (as far as I know) called "New American Gospel" on
    Metal Blade. I'm not crazy about the production (particularly drumwise --
    the snare bothers me), but it's a solid extreme metal disc.

    >God Forbid

    Awesome band, sort of a fusion of thrash, hardcore, and power metal (listen
    to some of the guitar parts). If you can find it, their album "Reject The
    Sickness" on 9Volt is real damn fine. Their latest, "Determination", on
    Century Media is good too (and certainly easier to locate), I just prefer
    the other one. It's got more 'variation' to it.

    >Thursday

    They have an album on Victory called "Full Collapse". Emo-stuff, not
    really my thing.

    >ill nino

    Pretty lame (IMO of course) new signing to Roadrunner, sort of a
    Sepultura-(ultra)lite. Their debut, which either just came out or will
    shortly, is called "Revolution...Revolucion". There's a couple tracks in
    Spanish to prove that they're 'ethnic', and not just another
    slightly-above-par nurock band...

    I'm not familiar enough with the entire back catalogs of the other bands to
    give true all-album recommendations, although I can tell you Overkill's
    newest one, "Bloodletting", is cool (yet, like that Lamb of God, with a
    tinny snare...), but that their early '90s albums like "Horrorscope" are
    also good/better starting points. Additionally, Biohazard's new one
    "Uncivilization" ain't bad if you're into their sound, VOD's latest, "From
    Bliss To Devastation", sounds little like their previous releases, and
    Skinlab's "Disembody: The New Flesh" is a quality piece-o-work.

    Something else, unrelated. Tool will be touring the US soon with Meshuggah
    (hot damn!) as support. Old news, most likely, but I haven't seen any
    mention of it here yet.

    http://www.toolband.com/tour/index.html

    Brian

    [NP...Wayne -- Metal Church]

    =============================================
    WB Henderson [wbhender@cs.millersville.edu]
    Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio): http://ahp.musicpage.com/
    Metalmaton Grit Patrol (metal-radio): http://www.wixq.com/metal/MGP/
    WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com/
    WIXQ-METAL: http://www.wixq.com/metal/
    =============================================

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    Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 02:34:52 EDT
    From: DoubleJay54@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Spocks Beard
    Message-ID: <f8.e8a0ca9.28b4ac8c@aol.com>

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    If anybody was going to write a letter to the bar that stiffed sb, its all
    been cleared up now. I wrote a letter to them and here is the reply.

    <<Hello JJ,

    The Spock's Beard situation is a dead issue. We paid the band
    what they were contracted as per their booking agent. Whatever the problem
    was, it was with the band, their management and their booking agent. The
    band has apologised to us for dissing us on their web-site (they've pulled
    the diss from the site) and has promised us that they
    would post an apology on their web-site in the future.

    Willy Wilson

    Magic Bag Publicity
    22920 Woodward Ave.
    Ferndale, MI 48220
    Phone: 248-544-1991
    Fax: 248-544-1989>>>

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    Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:09:55 +0700
    From: "Sigit Prabowo" <tekpps05@bni.co.id>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Inspiration Corner
    Message-ID: <03df01c12ad1$10b1be20$0cca17ac@sigitprabowo>

    Trying to complete the list ....

    > From: "Jxrgen C. Bakken" <easy2beat@hotmail.com>
    > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    > Subject: Inspiration Corner
    > Message-ID: <F127JgLKmAV7BKy8j3q0000b417@hotmail.com>
    >
    > Well, I Havn't seen this in here yet, so I thought I come to you and say,
    > all the bands on DT's mind.
    >
    - Nine Inch Nails "Downward Spiral"
    - Soundgarden "Superunknown"
    - Tool "Aenima"
    - Pantera "Far Beyond Driven"
    - Megadeth "Rust In Peace"
    - Metallica "Master Of Puppets"
    - U2 "...."
    - Galactic Cowboys "Space In Your Face"
    - King's X "Faith Hope Love"
    - Nine Inch Nails "Dirt"
    - Kevin Gilbert "Thud"
    - Radiohead "Kid A"
    - Radiohead bootleg
    - Rage Against The Machine "The Battle Of Los Angeles"
    - (Bela) Bartok
    - Maria Tipo "Chopin Nocturnes"

    Cheers,
    Sigit
    np Pain Of Salvation "Stress"

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    Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:15:50 +0700
    From: "Sigit Prabowo" <tekpps05@bni.co.id>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Michael Angelo / Nitro (was : Petrucci On Stage)
    Message-ID: <03e901c12ad1$e3f4fea0$0cca17ac@sigitprabowo>

    > Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 06:48:17 EDT
    > From: AiCFAN4@aol.com
    > To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    > Subject: Re: Petrucci on stage
    > Message-ID: <4d.100fe41d.28afa1f1@aol.com>
    >
    even original. If anyone has seen the guy from Nitro on the "Metal Methods"
    instructional video, you'd see that guy does the same thing, and I'm almost
    certain he was around before Vai...
    >

    That's Michael Angelo Batio, I think the first guitarist with a v-shaped
    double-neck guitar. He also had an x-shaped four-neck version, with 29 frets
    each !
    I just found out that he's still around, and has his own label (on
    www.angelo.com). Michael Fath and Kopecky are on that label also. I think
    Angelo's work has gone on the progressive side. I'm thinking about ordering
    his latter solo albums ... does anybody have any comment about those albums
    ?

    Cheers,
    Sigit Prabowo
    np Pain Of Salvation "Revival"
    yes I'm listening to Entropia for the 3rd time today ....

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    Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:24:39 +0700
    From: "Sigit Prabowo" <tekpps05@bni.co.id>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Inspiration Corner
    Message-ID: <040f01c12ad3$1f40efe0$0cca17ac@sigitprabowo>

    Self correction ....

    should be :
    Alice In Chains "Dirt"
    Radiohead "The Bends"

    what was I thinking ????

    cheers,
    Sigit
    still on entropia ...

    > Trying to complete the list ....
    >
    > > From: "Jxrgen C. Bakken" <easy2beat@hotmail.com>
    > > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    > > Subject: Inspiration Corner
    > > Message-ID: <F127JgLKmAV7BKy8j3q0000b417@hotmail.com>
    > >
    > > Well, I Havn't seen this in here yet, so I thought I come to you and
    say,
    > > all the bands on DT's mind.
    > >
    > - Nine Inch Nails "Downward Spiral"
    > - Soundgarden "Superunknown"
    > - Tool "Aenima"
    > - Pantera "Far Beyond Driven"
    > - Megadeth "Rust In Peace"
    > - Metallica "Master Of Puppets"
    > - U2 "...."
    > - Galactic Cowboys "Space In Your Face"
    > - King's X "Faith Hope Love"
    > - Nine Inch Nails "Dirt"
    > - Kevin Gilbert "Thud"
    > - Radiohead "Kid A"
    > - Radiohead bootleg
    > - Rage Against The Machine "The Battle Of Los Angeles"
    > - (Bela) Bartok
    > - Maria Tipo "Chopin Nocturnes"
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Sigit
    > np Pain Of Salvation "Stress"
    >

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