YTSEJAM Digest 5767
Today's Topics:
1) Fanclub CD
by "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
2) Re: Australia
by Brian Kirk <bkirk@dendrite.net>
3) Re: [Korgx3] korg and napster
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
4) Re: Nevermore
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
5) re: korg and napster
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
6) freak kitchen
by "Niklas Thorpenberg" <031-7049409@telia.com>
7) Kitchen Freaks
by Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
8) napstermart
by Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
9) Re: [Korgx3] korg and napster and the two-faced asshole
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
10) Re: Nevermore
by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@xinu.irv.concentric.net>
11) Re: [Korgx3] korg and napster
by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@xinu.irv.concentric.net>
12) Short on cash? We'll give you a F R E E 2-Way Motorola Pager! 21662
by battikha@hotmail.com
13) Re: fan club membership/Xmas CDs
by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
14) Re: reasons for Xmas CD hold up
by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
15) RE: Superior status and clips
by "Charles Farrell" <Charles.Farrell@tesco.net>
16) Annual Fan Club CD Bitching
by "Charles Farrell" <Charles.Farrell@tesco.net>
17) Napster woes
by Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
18) Re: Australia
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
19) Jens and napster
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
20) Re: Australia
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
21) napster and the three-faced asshole
by Jens Johansson <jens+@panix.com>
22) Re: napster and the three-faced asshole
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez?= <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
23) Re: Mp3 abuse
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
24) GH, CoB, OT, NM, and Opeth :)
by "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net>
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:05:14 +0100
From: "Mark Bredius" <bredius@quicknet.nl>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Fanclub CD
Message-ID: <000d01c095f8$471413a0$0100007f@localhost>
Joshua Rasiel wrote:
> If they don't intend to release it at christmas time,
Actually, they had every intention of having it out around
Christmas, especially after last year... But then Murphy's
Law stepped in again...
Mike and Susan Verstraete wrote:
> Christmas comes around at the same time every year, how hard
> is it to get it out in time????
You would be surprised.....
> If we're not going to get it during the holidays, quit
> calling it a Xmas CD!!!!
Good idea... Let's refer to it as the Fanclub CD from now on.
BTW, there's some information (artwork, tracklisting and release
date) about the upcoming TransAtlantic live DOUBLE ALBUM on
http://www.TRANSATLANTICweb.com/ for those who are interested...
Mark Bredius
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.TRANSATLANTICweb.com/ Double Live Album out in March
New *Exclusive* MP3 available at: http://www.PorcupineTree.com/
http://www.DreamTheater.net/ Live DVD/VHS out on March 20, 2001
The Official Spock's Beard Website: http://www.SpocksBeard.com/
http://www.HappyCoupons.com/ Coupons for your favourite stores
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:15:23 -0600
From: Brian Kirk <bkirk@dendrite.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Australia
Message-ID: <3A8995DB.1F0D650D@dendrite.net>
> Graham Borland wrote:
>
> > Ah well, I'll just spend my time skinning kangaroos and sinking
> > stubbies. And brushing up on my Aussie slang.
>
> The are couple of very good metal shops to spend your cash, in
> Sydney and Melbourne. If you do come to Sydney I'd glady show you around
> and have a beer or 2 with you.
>
> graham
Anyone else starting to feel like they're watching a Python skit?
Brian "Mind if we call you 'Graham'? It's less confusing." Kirk
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:14:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: [Korgx3] korg and napster
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0102131612220.62202-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Jens Johansson wrote:
>
> On 13:18 2001/02/12 -0800, you wrote:
>
> > So napster is soon to be no more. I'd just like to know why musicians
> > think they are somehow better than authors. I don't hear any writers
> > whining about their books being put into libraries.
>
> Libaries pay for their copies, and do not make them available to
> anyone with an internet connection.
Libraries ALSO only allow their books to be BORROWED, which means you have
to return them or else buy the book. So that really isn't an accurate
analogy.
> There's also Stephen King's very recent experience.
What happened? I seem to have missed this news event.
> Oh and by the way, it seems Napster Inc. lost the other day, didn't
> it? Breaks my heart. ;)
I'll bet. :D
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Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
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I like to go down to the dog pound and pretend
that I've found my dog. Then I tell them to kill
it anyway because I already gave away all of his
stuff. Dog people sure don't have a sense of
humor.
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:47:18 -0600
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Nevermore
Message-ID: <20010213.154718.-324251.0.kurt.hampton@juno.com>
Yeah,
I picked it up when it first came out. I love Andy Sneap he is the best
producer I have heard in a long time. He also did the enw Stuck Mojo
album declaration of a Headhunter. Its rockin.
I love the river dragon, and "inside four Walls" that song rips.
Kurt
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:00:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: korg and napster
Message-ID: <20010213220026.61029.qmail@web12103.mail.yahoo.com>
"Craig Wuthrich" <woot@enchantize.com> wrote:
> I was talking to my GF the other day and was telling
her about some of
> my musical endeavors and happened to mention "Chuck
from Burley."
> Me: Ack! Maybe you do know him. How's that?
> Her: Oh we dated a couple times a while back.
> Me: <sob>
Damn boy, I hope you get yourself to a doctor right
away! ;o)
> So napster is soon to be no more. I'd just like to
know why musicians
> think they are somehow better than authors. I don't
hear any writers whining
> about their books being put into libraries.
The main issue is about being able to create a
suitable duplicate. Still a pain in the rear to
photocopy the whole book (but if you want to read
online, it's a whole 'nother story, and yes, they'll
whine).
Not to go too far into nerd territory, but just
imagine if they could create a "Star Trek" style
replicator? You'd hear whining from everyone!
"Computer, replicate me a 56" screen SONY HDTV."
On the extra large ACME Replicator: "Computer, create
me a 2001 Corvette Convertable."
And of course, just to take this to it's logical and
inevitable conclusion: "Computer, replicate Pamela
Anderson, minus the tats".
my $.07, BH
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:17:48 +0100
From: "Niklas Thorpenberg" <031-7049409@telia.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: freak kitchen
Message-ID: <002901c0960a$cc622f80$f97641d5@NiklasThorpenberg>
Hey everyone!=20
someone asked:=20
>I just want to know how the hell a band this good can
>have four albums out and we're just now discussing
>them. What's up with that? We need a collective
>clue...
Maybe I can help. One thing is that they don't have a label. They record =
all their stuff themselves without any backup from a record company. =
When they have an album ready, they find someone who can handle the =
distribution. So they don't have a company to push their music.. No one =
gives them money to make videos. So they pretty much rely on their fans =
spreading their music.=20
I'm very happy to see that they are finally getting some attention. They =
really are good, especially singer/guitar player Mattias Eklundh, who =
incidentally lives not at all far from me. I don't exactly know him, but =
I have met him a few times (my friend used to take guitar lessons from =
him). Very nice guy. I've tried to get the jam to notice them before, =
but that was years ago...way before Napster. Btw, I'm pretty sure that =
Freak Kitchen is a band who really supports Napster (of course, I can't =
speak for them, but it's a qualified guess anyway).=20
Oh, and someone mentioned www.skivhugget.se ...excellent store. =
Dangerously close though - only 5 minutes away by foot :)
Nik
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:47:56 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Kitchen Freaks
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010213134540.03a96038@pop.tinagh.org>
At 08:29 AM 2/13/2001, you wrote:
>Yep - go to http://www.freakkitchen.com - they have a 45-second-or-so sample
>of every song on each album...
Cool. *listens* Good music. Reminds me of the early Galactic Cowboys
stuff. Too bad about the lyrics.
Is it just me or is anybody else tired of the complete lack of subtlety in
"social commentary" lyrics? I've had enough of "World BAD! Angst GOOD!"
to last me a lifetime.
Still, I learned to tolerate Damn the Machine's lyrics, I could get used to
this.
~Chris
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:58:14 -0500
From: Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: napstermart
Message-ID: <3A89BC06.235116B5@optonline.com>
>So napster is soon to be no more. I'd just like to know why musicians
think
>they are somehow better than authors. I don't hear any writers whining
>about their books being put into libraries.
To what's already been said, I would just add that napster isn't so much
akin to a library as it is a 24-hour barnes&noble with a never-ending
shopping spree.
Also: Not only do libraries not let you keep the books(well, i keep
mine. fuck 'em!), they never have the book on the shelves before it's
released for sale to the public. And rarely do they have alternate
first-drafts that the author never intended for us to read. And they
generally have just one copy of anything, so only one person can borrow
it at a time, which means if the other 99% of the population want that
book asap, they'll just have to pay for it.
All reasons why libraries suck and napster rocks. :-D
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:18:37 -0500
From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
To: "Ytsejam (E-mail)" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: [Korgx3] korg and napster and the two-faced asshole
Message-ID: <35A7D40B978CD311AF05002048404D34024B27DE@wm2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
>> Oh and by the way, it seems Napster Inc. lost the other day,
>> didn't it? Breaks my heart. ;)
Yeah, too bad you are such scum yourself. You *were* the jerk who posted to
the jam how proud you were to lift a CD via the five-finger-discount from
some small store that you were actually the guest of. Theft is theft. Piss
on yurself you two-faced loser !!
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:57:42 -0800
From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@xinu.irv.concentric.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Nevermore
Message-ID: <20010213175742.A8762@xinu.irv.concentric.net>
I'd have to say that Dreaming Neon Black is still my fave, but
this one is good too... the bonus tracks like All The Cowards Hide
rule... DNB is more thrashy though...
-The Doc
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 07:14:53AM -0800, Graham Borland wrote:
>
> I have been listening, over the last couple of weeks, to the new
> Nevermore album, Dead Heart In A Dead World.
>
> It's one of the best metal albums I've heard for a *long* time. If you
> can get used to Warrel Dane's rather unique vocal style, that is.
>
> There are a couple of really incredible songs on this album. Please
> buy it.
>
> --
> Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd
> graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:59:53 -0800
From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@xinu.irv.concentric.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: [Korgx3] korg and napster
Message-ID: <20010213175953.B8762@xinu.irv.concentric.net>
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:33:27AM -0800, Jens Johansson wrote:
>
> On 13:18 2001/02/12 -0800, you wrote:
>
> > So napster is soon to be no more. I'd just like to know why musicians think
> > they are somehow better than authors. I don't hear any writers whining
> > about their books being put into libraries.
>
> Libaries pay for their copies, and do not make them available to anyone with an internet connection.
>
> But anyway, there has certainly been 'whining' about online distribution. ISTR some case a while back where some entity acquired rights for news stories (I think it even was for some internal library use) and then subsequently tried to sell access to that database over the internet.
This is the biggest misconception, Napster doesn't "distribute" anything. Napster is like a dating service. They put you
in contact with someone else and then hand you off to them.
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:01:46 -0800
From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: fan club membership/Xmas CDs
Message-ID: <B6AF270A.1723%schansen@cts.com>
Josh wrote:
> In all fairness, I think a lot of people signed up only for that
> "bonus". I'm not sure what the details are, but isn't it supposed to be
> included in the price?
Then a lot of people signed up for the wrong reason, unless one of the fan
clubs used it as a selling point to signing up. The CD has always been a
bonus that AFAIK has never been included in the price. I know specifically
with the 96 CD, that the manufacturing cost came out of the band's pockets
as their way of saying thanx to the fans. Whether this is still the case or
not (considering that all the fan clubs now get the Xmas CD, and not just
the English "International" FC) I don't know.
But there's a good chance that this will be the last year of the Xmas CD
anyway. Mike told me back in September that he plans to start selling other
fan-club style CDs on DT's official website. First off would be re-issues of
the Xmas CDs (for those that didn't get them originally), and if the record
label doesn't create lots of trouble, then Mike will begin releasing
official bootlegs. These bootlegs would then take the place of any further
Xmas CDs.
BTW - for those of you, who like me, were concerned that the value of our
original pressings of the Xmas CDs would go down with the reissues, Mike
plans to drop one or two tracks from the reissues and (I believe) have
different artwork as well.
Scott
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:04:09 -0800
From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: reasons for Xmas CD hold up
Message-ID: <B6AF2799.1724%schansen@cts.com>
> I realize that this IS a bonus and we are lucky to get a Xmas CD BUT!!!!!
> Christmas comes around at the same time every year, how hard is it to get it
> out in time????
Mike posted on his site that he got the masters out to whoever is
responsible (can't remember who) and that it's now in their hands. Dunno
what the hold up is - if it's manufacturing issues or other things, but it's
not MP's fault.
Scott
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:10:23 -0000
From: "Charles Farrell" <Charles.Farrell@tesco.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Superior status and clips
Message-ID: <NDBBINHLDLPJGIMLBOPGMEEEDCAA.Charles.Farrell@tesco.net>
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:40:49 +0100
> From: Superior - Bernd Basmer <bernd@meet-superior.de>
> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
> Subject: Superior status and clips
> Well, we have just recorded a demo for the record companies.
> The demo contains the first 8 songs. We have planned to have
> 12 songs on the CD this time. 12 songs and a lot of musical
> and spoken parts inbetween because, as you might know, it's
> gonna be a concept album... The story has taken a few steps
> forward too and we have planned to be done with the story board
> in about 7 - 8 weeks. We will have a lot of sound effects
> and spoken parts on the CD. We try to make it as movie-like
> as possible.
sounds interesting. Looking forward to hearing some demos.
> For anyone who would like to get more and steady information,
> I can only tell you to go on our homepage and sign up for the
> Superior newsletter I send out every few months. There is a lot
> of information about the band status in the newsletter and I
> plan to send it out more often in the future.
yeah, but the last one I received was mid-september 2000.
guess you've been otherwise occupied :-))
Charlie
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:10:26 -0000
From: "Charles Farrell" <Charles.Farrell@tesco.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Annual Fan Club CD Bitching
Message-ID: <NDBBINHLDLPJGIMLBOPGOEEEDCAA.Charles.Farrell@tesco.net>
Hell its that time of year again: - what fun
"When's the Christmas CD due"
"Will I still get my Christmas CD if I post my cheque, today"
blah, blah, blah
I feel sorry for the people who actually put their own time into running the
Fan Club, the shit they must have to put up with!
As I understand it (from the Mailing List of the French Fan Club - which is
excellently administered), the Christmas Edition of the French Fanzine (no
29) are being sent out today because the Christmas CD has been further
delayed and is no longer expected before early March, at best. As I
understand it there have been a variety of issues relating to the content of
the disk, material lost in the post etc.
I don't know if the 'Theater of Dreams' Fanzine is affected by the same
problem, however, it does surprise me that no one has put out a message (via
Itchy's news list or whatever) to calm peoples worries. I suppose it would
spoil all the fun of bitchin tho, wouldn't it. :-))
Charlie
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:27:16 -0600
From: Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Napster woes
Message-ID: <B6AF7354.8D1%twilightzone@mindspring.com>
Lemmie start first off by saying Napster sucks(not in the same vein as Lars
thinks it sucks though). I do use it but really, it does suck. It is only
good if you want a couple of hit songs from a band. Most people don't keep
whole albums in their library. It is also a pain to download full CDs. Go
to cdnow or wherever and jot down all the songs then look for them one by
one. There is also the partial songs that every once in a while you will
accidentally download. Pain in the arse.
Anyway, I - apparently unlike anyone else on the jam, am not made of
$money$. I refuse to purchase one CD at a cost of $35(in the example of
Freak Kitchen). Hell I refuse to buy a double disc at that price.
Outrageous. I was going to buy the Rent 2 disc soundtrack for my girl for
V-Day, but the only place that had it was Camelot for a price of $48. Yeah
Right. Fuck Off Camelot. Manufacturing CDs is cheaper than cassettes, why
the $8-$10 price difference. Record companies are screwing the public, and
they know it. And after this Napster case, they will continue to do so.
I don't have foreign contacts, and if some band from podunk Thailand or
wherever is worried about a couple(hundred) people downloading their album
overseas, then they should release it domestically. At least in the US, I
mean come on, this is the land of milk and honey, I'm not paying more than
$14 for a CD that costs less than a buck to make.
And don't give me the band makes money in there somewhere thing. Crap.
Total crap. I've read many times that a band makes little to nothing on CD
sales, they all make it on touring, and merchandising. Stuff the record
company doesn't control.
Lets try something. The way sales should be done is like this $1-$2 for
manufacturing. $5 for the record company, and $5 for the band. A CD should
be no more than $12. When I walk into Camelot or Sam Goody and see a SINGLE
CD for $17.99 or $18.99 I just laugh. Who in their right mind would pay
such an outrageous amount of money. I don't know how they stay in business.
Maybe that is why a Disc Jockey, Camelot, NRM, and HMV(I think that's what
it was) all closed near me in the past couple of years.
In conclusion:
Napster to me was not about getting free music. It was about sticking it to
the record companies, telling them we aren't going to take it anymore. Here
let me put the lube on for them.
feel free to debate, I'm curious about others thoughts. And I'm sure there
are plenty that disagree.
-corvin
Oh and is there anyone else on the jam that can't get enough of Linkin Park?
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:09:53 +1100
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Australia
Message-ID: <001401c09644$625bcda0$688436cb@PaulTadday>
As summer ends here in Oz so to do the festivals. Not that there were really
many heavy bands here this year for those anyway. Deep Purple will be here
in March followed by Kiss in April. There are also rumours of Tool, Dio,
Slash, Bon Jovi, Creed, Devin Townsend and Fear Factory all to tour at some
point also. I for one certainly won't be holding my breath. These days,
unless I am actually sitting at the venue on the night of the concert I
don't even get my hopes up that the thing is even going to take place. We've
had too many broken promises, cancellations and arsehole promoters screwing
things up for us, it's no wonder that bands don't bother coming here.
The local scene here in Melbourne is pretty healthy though as far as
original bands go. Vanishing Point, Pegazus, Mortification and heaps of
others. Look out for Krane also! (hehehe... had to get that plug in there!)
;)
--Paul.
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:20:52 +1100
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Jens and napster
Message-ID: <001d01c09645$e97a7380$688436cb@PaulTadday>
And I wonder how many new fans Stratovarious has due to the availability of
mp3's on Napster!!
I for one have discovered a heap of bands that I otherwise would not have
had the chance to hear.
My cd collection is booming but my wallet is looking pretty sad!! Yes I have
been BUYING most of what I have heard.
What I have downloaded and did not like I would not have purchased anyway so
the artist has lost nothing!!
Jens I'm sure that there are alot more people in the world that are now
tuned in to your music thanks to those evil mp3's!
It's funny how Napster has over 500 million users yet the sales of cd's
worldwide has risen 6% in the last year!!
*things that make you go "hmmmmmm"*
--Paul
----- Original Message -----
]From: Jens Johansson <jens+@panix.com>
> > So napster is soon to be no more. I'd just like to know why musicians
think
> > they are somehow better than authors. I don't hear any writers whining
> > about their books being put into libraries.
>
> Oh and by the way, it seems Napster Inc. lost the other day, didn't it?
Breaks my heart. ;)
> ---
> Jens. <jens+@panix.com> (http://www.panix.com/~jens/)
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:23:03 +1100
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Australia
Message-ID: <002901c09646$374c5380$688436cb@PaulTadday>
*LOL*
See, we're not all called Bruce!!
--Paul. *'tis people like you wot cause unrest!*
----- Original Message -----
]From: Brian Kirk <bkirk@dendrite.net>
>
> Anyone else starting to feel like they're watching a Python skit?
>
> Brian "Mind if we call you 'Graham'? It's less confusing." Kirk
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:29:30 -0500
From: Jens Johansson <jens+@panix.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: napster and the three-faced asshole
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20010214002930.03a387b0@localhost>
On 16:28 2001/02/13 -0800, you wrote:
> Yeah, too bad you are such scum yourself. You *were* the jerk who posted to
> the jam how proud you were to lift a CD via the five-finger-discount from
> some small store that you were actually the guest of. Theft is theft. Piss
> on yurself you two-faced loser !!
I never posted any such thing.
All in all, your post says more about you, Mark Metzger <mmetzger@comversens.com>, than it does about me -- it betrays your general mental acuity. You may some day realize that's not always a good thing.
--- Jens. <jens+@panix.com> (http://www.panix.com/~jens/)------------------------------
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:07:41 -0600 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez?= <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: napster and the three-faced asshole Message-ID: <015401c0964c$7124ec60$6e5af094@compaq.net.mx>
ouch! well, i dont wanna get on either side......but i kinda remember some Jens mail (on this list, or the TEOF list, if he happens to be there too...can= t remember) about shoplifting some cd's as he was on tour or something. ohh well, maybe my brain is fucked up too. as seinfeld and costanza would say: "what a shame....." anybody has 100% accuracy about this matter? i=B4d say i=B4m 85% sure abo= ut this mail.
And as i know Jens will be reading this, im gonna ask a question waaaaaay off topic: Strato had a gig in my hometown in Monterrey Mexico the day of your Bday last year, and a friend actually gave you a bottle of tequila. Did you gu= ys drink it before or after the show? Or did you just keep it? Just Curious....and that stuffed rat onstage was great! its not a rat actually= , its a tlacuache. its a marsupial! its as ugly as mick mars on helloween! = (or any day for that matter! hehehe)
Mauricio ----- Original Message ----- ]From: "Jens Johansson" <jens+@panix.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: napster and the three-faced asshole
> > On 16:28 2001/02/13 -0800, you wrote: > > > Yeah, too bad you are such scum yourself. You *were* the jerk who posted to > > the jam how proud you were to lift a CD via the five-finger-discount from > > some small store that you were actually the guest of. Theft is theft= =2E Piss > > on yurself you two-faced loser !! > > I never posted any such thing. > > All in all, your post says more about you, Mark Metzger <mmetzger@comversens.com>, than it does about me -- it betrays your gener= al mental acuity. You may some day realize that's not always a good thing. > > > > --- > Jens. <jens+@panix.com> (http://www.panix.com/~jens/)
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:29:44 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Mp3 abuse Message-ID: <3A89ED98.953BF7E5@mol.com.mk>
> From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org> > Subject: Re: Mp3 abuse > > So is there a place to find good legal samples of Freak > Kitchen? Some of us don't use Napster.
Such a pity.
Hey I can burn you a CD with all 4 albums on mp3!
ROTFL
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 04:29:39 -0500 From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: GH, CoB, OT, NM, and Opeth :) Message-ID: <3A8A5003.749E@atl.mediaone.net>
> From: mildew@ucla.edu > To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Subject: Re: Upcoming US tour: Opeth, Nevermore, Children of Bodom > > Paul, I think we need to arrange a mass wedding where you can marry all the members of Ozric Tentacles, and maybe Godhead :P
What, to eachother? Now THAT'd be a picture. "Attention: hippies to the front; rivetheads to the back. You! Yes, you, with the yellow mohawk! Please un-hand the hippie!"
> That having been said, can I stay at your house if these bands > never hit the east coast?
Ummm. <parses that again> "Okay.....?"
> How bout you, Phil? Never heard Nevermore
I think this means you've heard More. :)
> but I'm definitely into Opeth and CoB and I think I'd be willing > to go across country to see them.
Sure! The Peachwood Hilton here is always open, unless of course Godhead's sleeping bags once again cover the floor. :)
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