YTSEJAM Digest 5773
Today's Topics:
1) Re: TransAtlantic CD
by "Dark Majesty" <shadow_majesty@hotmail.com>
2) Special Program
by diababerg_family@fiberia.com
3) The DVD pre-order
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
4) Real Estate
by diab_p_brandt@usa.net
5) Vanishing Point Gig
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
6) Napster
by Jonathan.Agar@henderson.com
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5771
by "Paul Evans" <evansp3@corp.earthlink.net>
8)
by NzGy7ooG4@himeji-du.ac.jp
9) Re: Kevin and bass, Audio Gnone Invisible?
by "M P" <mremann6@hotmail.com>
10) RE: %#$#^!! Napster, of course
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
11) Re: Kevin and bass, Audio Gnone Invisible?
by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <prog@yunque.net>
12) DVD Question.....
by Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
13) Re: Napzter
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
14) Re: DVD Question.....
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
15) Re: DVD Question.....
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
16) Computer Help
by "Mark Fitchett" <mark@fitchett35.freeserve.co.uk>
17) Napster/DVD SPOILERS
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
18) My last word on Napster
by Ptacek Chris-CPTACEK1 <CPTACEK1@motorola.com>
19) Freakin' English guns in the Kitchen
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:42:09 -0600
From: "Dark Majesty" <shadow_majesty@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: TransAtlantic CD
Message-ID: <F145ODt9Cz93MgPPf3L0000584d@hotmail.com>
CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> sed:
>>On the last track the cover, the end of the song! The final kick is
being played and 1 second before the whole CD finishes and stops
spinning, there's a voice saying "ISN'T I.."
Heck, at leats my CD has this on its final second, any other?>>
Yes, it is on all of them, and no, it is not a mistake. Transatlantic, I
assume (which isn't probably smart, but I'm doing it anyway), did this
either to make people think, or to add a little humor to the end of the
song. But it is supposed to be there.
--96
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:45:43 +0100
From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: The DVD pre-order
Message-ID: <3A906CB7.D98CA292@mol.com.mk>
This stuff is only for US & Canada right? :(
I was preparing to pre-oreder it when I noticed:
Region 1 encoding (for use in US and Canada only)
Why not for Europe too?
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:23:38 -0800
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:04:59 +1100
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Vanishing Point Gig
Message-ID: <006a01c09a42$46557aa0$c78836cb@PaulTadday>
For anyone who will be in Melbourne in early March, Vanishing Point will be
playing at Hell's Kitchen in King Street on Saturday March 3 along with
Enter Twilight. VP will hit the stage around 11:30pm.
--Paul.
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:58:14 +0000
From: Jonathan.Agar@henderson.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Napster
Message-ID: <OF00B866FB.855A0C61-ON002569F8.00366EB1@henderson.co.uk>
Bogie wrote:
]From: "Nick Bogovich" <bogie@schliz.com>
Subject: RE: %#$#^!! Napster, of course
Artists lose control of their work the minute they share it with the
rest of the world. If an artist wants complete control over their work,
then they shouldn't release it period.
Until the world produces thousands of musicians that have the integrity
of a Howard Roark, I don't see this power battle among musicians, record
labels, and music lovers ending any time soon.
-bogie
Oh come on, Nick! How can you invoke Howard Roark and then say that
intellectual property doesn't mean shit! Since when does that chime with
Ayn Rand? You buy a CD, tape, LP, whatever under a contract. An artist
doesn't 'lose control', his or her record company sets the terms under
which you can buy it. Meaning you can tape it for your personal use etc.
'Shouldn't release it period' is bollocks.
And Napster nay-sayers do understand what the product is. Lars understood
when Metallica came up with those 300,000 Metallica downloaders. If the
Royal Mail had the means to check that heroin was being sent by mail, of
course people would want them to monitor it. FREE SPEECH IS NOT THE SAME
THING AS REPRODUCING COPYRIGHT MATERIAL.
Jonathan
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:01:03 -0800
From: "Paul Evans" <evansp3@corp.earthlink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5771
Message-ID: <005001c09a9d$ecb742b0$305ad9cf@it.earthlink.net>
The Doc wrote:
>
> This is what most anti-napster people say, all the time. Your bottom line
> is false. What about tape trading? I buy a CD, tape it, give it to a
friend,
> he tapes it, gives it to a friend? You've lost control of "distribution"
of your
> music.
So explain please how this invalidates my statement? Just because people
can make tapes means that Napster doesn't facilitate the illegal
distribution of music? Sorry, I'm missing your logic here.
> You want to control "distribution" of your music?? Simple, don't
> release your music.
Unfortunately, that's the plan I've been following :-) I'm going for the
fame by obscurity route...
> The only thing musicians and others have against napster is
> it's convenience and the misconception that you're getting a perfect copy
of
> the original song.
I have no misconceptions over this. You get as perfect a copy as the
encoding level allows. If people had the bandwidth for wave files, they'd
be posting and downloading those too. Hell, they probably are.
And yeah, the convenience is part of the problem.
But again, you're throwing junk up that goes away from the main point -
artists' control over their own work.
> If making tapes were as easy as pointing and clicking and
> distributing them among a million of your friends, you people would be
against
> tape making too.
Yeah, but you're forgetting your own "perfect" copy argument...
> Yeah, you blow the same rusty pipe as the rest of the people.
>
What can I say? I have an iron deficiency... But this isn't really a matter
of exciting new and original arguments. It's the same old stuff from both
sides of the fence. I'm just pointing out how far away from the point of
the legality of this issue our arguments get...
Geez Doc, you were gentle on me. You must be getting mellow in your old
age. I'll try to piss you off a bit more the next time I venture out of
lurk mode... :-)
And Nick wrote:
>
> Artists lose control of their work the minute they share it with the
> rest of the world. If an artist wants complete control over their work,
> then they shouldn't release it period.
>
Seems there's a rusty pipe on the other side of the fence too...
So, let's make it even harder for the artist by allowing Napster and the
like? This is the logic I don't get...
> Until the world produces thousands of musicians that have the integrity
> of a Howard Roark, I don't see this power battle among musicians, record
> labels, and music lovers ending any time soon.
>
Yep, you got that right. But I bet we're all getting bored of this, no
matter which side we're on. At least I am. We all see each other's point
of view, but here we stand on opposite sides... Hey, this is turning into a
Fates Warning song!
ah, well, back to work and all...
Paul
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:17:07 -0500
From: "M P" <mremann6@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Kevin and bass, Audio Gnone Invisible?
Message-ID: <F189Am16K39u8iVnYOG00007b91@hotmail.com>
>From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
>Subject: Re: Kev Moore on bass...
>Michael Kizer wrote:
> > I am pretty sure that Kev played a "real" bass on the album, not just
>bass
> > lines via keyboard.
> > ;-)
>Really? i never knew kev could play bass... i always thought the bass
>lines
>were just sampled thru his boards or something..
>From: Brad Plumb <bplumb@pi-r-squared.com>
>I thought Joey Vera played bass on DAFR... or did he simply play lines that
>Kev wrote?
Joey Vera played bass on the album. Kevin played bass (and a real
bass at that) on the demos.
>From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
>Subject: AudioGnome
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:09:56 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Cc: "'shadow_majesty@hotmail.com'" <shadow_majesty@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: %#$#^!! Napster, of course
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D1920@ISDCRE00>
Napster does not store ANYTHING. The only time you should go to Napster's
web site is to download the latest version of Napster. Napster is a PROGRAM
that runs on your PC. Napster stores and searches for MP3's you specify and
it grabs from other people's PCs.. Napster is not a storage site. The
mp3's are on other people's PCs.
You are not an ass. No big deal Shadow Majesty.
Meanwhile, forget Napster.....there is a MUCH better program called
AudioGalaxy out there. It is web-based and very user-friendly. You can
queue up songs you want to download and the AudioGalaxy program will KEEP
trying to get those files for you. NO timeouts like on Napster. And when
you flip your PC off at the end of the day......turn it on the next day and
AudioGalaxy is still searching for your songs automatically. It's
fantastic.
There's more than 1 way to skin a cat. Even if they shut Napster down or
make it a pay service, there will still be OTHER ways to accomplish what we
are after.
JM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dark Majesty [SMTP:shadow_majesty@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:42 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: %#$#^!! Napster, of course
>
>
> Also, I'm sorry for my misinformation about how Napster works, I've never
> been anywhere near Napster itself. I was of the understanding that you go
>
> to their site, find your song (or songs, or 200 full albums), download it
> onto your HD, and then burn it onto a blank CD. To me, that implies that
> these songs are being stored ON Napster, which must not be the same as
> being
> on Napster's server (you'll have to forgive me, I'm not very familiar with
>
> the internal workings of the Internet). But either way, it seems to me
> that
> Napster is in possession of these songs, therefore they are responsible
> for
> their distribution. If this is not the way this whole thing works,
> somebody
> PLEASE let me know so I quit looking like an ass.
>
> --96
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:11:45 -0400
From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <prog@yunque.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Kevin and bass, Audio Gnone Invisible?
Message-ID: <3A928930.B7049508@yunque.net>
M P wrote:
> >
> Joey Vera played bass on the album. Kevin played bass (and a real
> bass at that) on the demos.
>
Vera played on some of the songs on DAFR, but i was talking about You go now,
which Vera doesnt play in...
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:19:25 -0600
From: Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: DVD Question.....
Message-ID: <20010220.091953.-19637.0.Kurt.Hampton@juno.com>
Ok,
Mike said the DVD thats coming out is going to be "region free" which
means it should work in everyone's player. I was reading my instruction
manual to my player, and it says it can ONLY plat Region 1 encoded discs.
I should be ok for the dvd correct?
Kurt
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:38:24 -0800
From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Napzter
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010220072125.00a31720@pop3.norton.antivirus>
Just a quick couple of points...
At 06:34 AM 2/20/01 -0800, you wrote:
> > the overwhelming opinion of college-level Napster users is
> > that they can find it online and CDs are so expensive.
Actually, CDs really aren't that expensive. When I started buying
CDs in 1984 (first CD I bought was the then new Rush's "Grace Under
Pressure") they went for about $19 - $24 a piece. So after almost 17 years,
they now go for an average of $11 - $15. Counting for inflation, the value
of the dollar, etc. that really doesn't seem too bad. Compare that to the
price of gasoline, bread, milk, or most anything else after 17 years. Sure,
I wish CDs were $5 a piece, because I buy way too many of them. ;-)
>While reading this a thing came to my mind. How is that different from
>owing a postcard with Mona Lisa, or a fake painting of it??? An mp3 is
>not the original music, it is a copy, by many folks a less quality copy.
The only problem with that argument is that the Mona Lisa is
probably old enough that reproductions can be made because it is basically
in the public domain. If you tried to take an Ansel Adams book of pictures,
scan them into your computer (a not perfect digital copy), print them out
and give them away en masse, I am sure that you'd be slapped with a legal
paper of some kind. ;)
>And another thing, ... it's a little funny how some folks bitch about
>Napster, and in many cases The Almighty Artist himself (that those
>people use in their anti-Napster arguments) says he don't mind Napster
>at all. So if Artist named <fill in> is not against, who the heck are
>you?
This is actually the only thing that Jens, Madsman, etc. have been
saying all along... Let the artist themselves decide the extent of how they
want their work distributed electronically. If some groups want to put all
of their stuff up on Napster, hey great. If another group doesn't, or only
wants one or two songs up there, then so be it. As it is right now, the
artist really doesn't have a choice, as soon as their work gets out, some
knucklehead will upload the whole thing to the net. I know that happened
with the Symphony X "V" album when the promo got sent out way before the
album was released and the band was none too pleased about it being available.
T minus 2 days til ProgPower. :-)
~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 >
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Date: 20 Feb 2001 15:41:02 +0000
From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: DVD Question.....
Message-ID: <86hf1pjrap.fsf@picsel.com>
Kurt M Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> writes:
> Mike said the DVD thats coming out is going to be "region free"
> which means it should work in everyone's player. I was reading my
> instruction manual to my player, and it says it can ONLY plat Region
> 1 encoded discs. I should be ok for the dvd correct?
Yep. But it's worth paying the extra $30 or whatever to get your
player chipped so that it's truly region-free (although this may
invalidate your warranty).
Even if I never buy a DVD from outwith Region 2, I still despise the
region encoding scheme in principle, so I got my player chipped as a
form of protest. :-)
(Actually I have now got a couple of Region 1 DVDs, and the price
savings by ordering from the US have made up for the cost of getting
the player modified already.)
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland------------------------------
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:43:47 -0800 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: DVD Question..... Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010220074105.027d4d90@pop3.norton.antivirus>
At 07:40 AM 2/20/01 -0800, you wrote: >Mike said the DVD thats coming out is going to be "region free" which >means it should work in everyone's player. I was reading my instruction >manual to my player, and it says it can ONLY plat Region 1 encoded discs. >I should be ok for the dvd correct? Yeah, since the DVD is not being produced with any region coding, it'll play in any player. Most all players sold in North America are restricted to region 1, which means we can't play DVDs produced for Europe, Asia, etc.
~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 > "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." ~ http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Underground Internet Radio at: http://www.ytseradio.com <<<
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:49:29 -0000 From: "Mark Fitchett" <mark@fitchett35.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Computer Help Message-ID: <001101c09b5d$18772860$0240883e@default>
I know this is a music page but not knowing my way round the Internet to find the right help. I have 2 hard drives - the original is the default with Windows 98 on but is so small it is causing lots of problems. Is there any way of making my bigger "Slave" drive the default one so that Windows can go on this one instead. Please can anyone with any clue e-mail me privately. Sorry for the waste of bandwith
Rock on DT!
Mark
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 05:02:39 +1100 From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Napster/DVD SPOILERS Message-ID: <3A92B13F.D119F603@optushome.com.au>
Souter, Jan-Michael wrote:
> Meanwhile, forget Napster.....there is a MUCH better program called > AudioGalaxy out there. It is web-based and very user-friendly. You can > queue up songs you want to download and the AudioGalaxy program will KEEP > trying to get those files for you. NO timeouts like on Napster. And when > you flip your PC off at the end of the day......turn it on the next day and > AudioGalaxy is still searching for your songs automatically. It's > fantastic.
Forget Audiogalaxy, try WinMX, it's way better. It can search multiple network's at once, resume broken d/l's and is very fast. For example last night I had 5 networks, 37 gigs of mp3's, from 20,000 users and a total of 37,000 files to search from. www.winMX.com
BTW the DT DVD is #1 on CDNow DVD charts. CDNow have no proper information on the DVD, ie track listing or anything and is region free, despite what their site says.
Here is the track listing for the DVD Tracks: 1. Opening Scene 2. Regression 3. Overture 1928 4. Strange Deja Vu 5. Through My Words 6. Fatal Tragedy 7. Beyond This Life 8. John & Theresa Solo Spot 9. Through Her Eyes 10. Home 11. The Dance Of Eternity 12. One Last Time 13. The Spirit Carries On 14. Finally Free 15. Closing Scene 16. Credits BONUS TRACKS: A Mind Beside Itself: I. Erotomania II. Voices III. The Silent Man Learning To Live A Change Of Seasons
graham
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:12:02 -0600 From: Ptacek Chris-CPTACEK1 <CPTACEK1@motorola.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: My last word on Napster Message-ID: <DFF2EFB82ADBD311B4BB00508B6F0C5C020F4944@il27exm03.cig.mot.com>
I'm not interested in changing any minds. I'm just concerned with letting people get away with bogus lies to convince each other that Napster is cool. Here's my last word on Napster, in a simple analogy:
Napster is BAD/WRONG because they are attempting to profit from assisting people in stealing music (whether the listener would have bought the music or not, if you didn't pay for it, and didn't obtain it by legal means, you stole it). It is precisely the same thing as a security guard at an electronics store getting paid to knowingly turn his back as you steal a TV. Sure, you may find that you like the TV a lot, and will buy one for the family room later. That guy still committed a crime. Napster ISN'T your friend. They AREN'T trying to help the world show the "Big 5" why they should be charging less for cds. They're a corporation, and their goal is to MAKE MONEY. People don't give venture capital to you so that you can make the world a better place. Too many of you are applying some kind of "grand scheme" morality to this company, as though they give a rat's ass about you, the artists, your crusades or anything else.
MP3s (as opposed to Napster) are much more debatable. MP3s have a purpose. However, free distribution, without rights for the artist, is not viable. A musician can DECIDE to give his music away for free. You can not pretend that taking this choice away from him is not an ethical issue. You can choose to be as greedy and disrespectful as you want, but you can not dance around the underlying concept. Free music would be great, but in our current climate, that has to be a CHOICE. I don't know anyone who can afford to record a professional work and not receive some reimbursement for it. Maybe a lot of you are forgetting how small the market is for the kind of music you love. You do make more money when you tour, but how often do you see non major label acts playing at real venues, with ticket prices they can really profit off? Last time I saw Tribal Tech there were 150 people there. Tickets were $12. If they got ALL of that money, we're talking about guys who can get $150+ an hour if they want to sell studio work, making $450 each (less if they pay their sound guy, who was keyboardist Scott Kinsey's dad) for a gig, and then paying for equipment for the tour and truck rental/lodging/cost of living etc... it's just not as lucrative as you think. Spock's Beard had closer to 200 people at the same venue, but divided between 5 people. It's just not viable to take away any part of these folks' income, unless you have provided another way for them to get by.
I won't participate in this any further, because it is an important topic to me, and I don't want to get childishly out of control again over it; and I find some of the repulsive whining from some members of this list to be pathetic. I'm really sorry that I had to take part in distracting you guys from the other non-Dream Theater topics on this list, with a topic that impacts upon all of music. IMO Chuck/KorgX3 in particular, should be the last to throw those stones (no offense).
- Chris aka Madsman someone@digitalrodent.com
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:40:10 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Freakin' English guns in the Kitchen Message-ID: <20010220184010.75669.qmail@web12103.mail.yahoo.com>
--- Andreas Schaefer <jerry@muc.de> wrote regarding Freak Kitchen:
> I just knew you wouldn't let it go and had to post > something to > that effect. ;-)
You knew? You mean you handed a Second Amendment supporting, gun-rights advocating, Libertarian a recording with a sarcastic anti-gun song on it and then waited for a post about it? That's not very nice. ;o)
Just to avoid the controversial "gun topic", I was intentionally vague and general about the political content of FK's lyrics. While some of the lyrics have been described as "dark", "negative in a sarcastic way" might be a better description (crackheads, anorexics, fascists and Jehovah's Witnesses might not like some of the lyrics on Dead Soul Men). Personally, I only take exception to the "anti-gun" lyrics of "Gun God". And while I could debate the subject all day, as you know, I didn't want to bring up "guns" specifically on the Ytsejam. It seems obvious to me, but I'll just add that advocating gun-rights does NOT equal advocating shooting people. I am in agreement with any lyrics that are against shooting people...
> And last I remember you weren't exactly speaking her > Majesty's English either, were you?
Good point. If the British had been successful at disarming the American Colonies, I might be one of Her Majesties Subjects right now... (not that there's anything wrong with being British).
CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> also replied to:
>>they also suffer a bit from the Yngwie School of "not quite proper" >>English at times. Only an issue if you're a picky bastard. ;o)
> And you are one right? :oP
Yep! >:o)
> Doh, just the other day I was listening some balladic stuff of > Freak Kitchen and I was amazed how good they sing in English.
Well, let me clarify and apologize. I didn't intend to offend anyone out there who is not a "native" English speaker. I am very envious of all the multilingual people in the world. Being a somewhat typical monolingual American, I wish I knew how to speak other languages. The guy from Freak Kitchen is a very good English singer and very proficient at writing. You really have to master a language before you can write in it, let alone write lyrics or poetry.
To be specific about the crack I made, the first song on the "Dead Soul Men" disc has a repeating chorus line which is "Rip out my eyes, I am finished to see." It just stands out, like a bad note played in an otherwise excellent guitar solo. It's not such a bad translation, but as was said before, it's awkward. You do get used to it, and it doesn't stand out as much after awhile.
All in all, I do recommend the disc, and personally, I voted for it as my number 2 recording of 2000 in the Ytsejam 2000 Poll. (Hey Neil, where are those results?) ;o)
my $.02, BH
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