YTSEJAM Digest 5722
Today's Topics:
1) Rudess/Petrucci track listing
by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
2) Scenes from New York
by "Christopher Frick" <friction96@hotmail.com>
3) Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
by "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
4) Re: dt font
by "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
5) RE: Petrucci/Rudess CD
by "Nick Bogovich" <bogie@schliz.com>
6) Metropolis 2000 DVD
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
7) Re: Metropolis 2000 DVD
by "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5721
by Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
9) RE: Metropolis 2000 DVD
by "Tim Detman" <td4235@ship.edu>
10) Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
by Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
11) Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
by "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
12) RE: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
13) RE: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
14) New Tunes
by Jared Emery <jared@fourwinds-trading.com>
15) Korg Ecksthrey philosophy
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
16) Re: New Tunes
by "Jyrki Takalo-Kastari" <jykke@nic.fi>
17) Re: MIDI files
by Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
18) vanishing points-little DTC
by "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
19) Re: Korg Ecksthrey philosophy
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <stinkfist@digitalfeces.com>
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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 16:10:18 -0800
From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Rudess/Petrucci track listing
Message-ID: <B677ADEA.1493%schansen@cts.com>
Dan asked:
> I know this has been on Napster for a while, but why doesn't anybody have
> "Glaidator" or "A Tune"? I've got no problem finding the other songs (yes, I
> bought the album - very cool)
Well, the incarnation of "The Gladiator Theme" that Rudess/Pertucci played
that night IS in fact on the official CD. It does NOT sound exactly like
what they played during the last 2 legs of the M2000 tour - in fact it
sounds almost nothing like it at all. Anyway, the track is called "In the
Moment." And just to let you guys know what did and did not make the CD,
here's a breakdown of the entire setlist:
1. Introduction - not on CD
2. untitled = Furia Taurina
3. Truth = Truth
4. Fife And Drum = Fife & Drum
5. State Of Grace - not on CD
6. Hang 11 = Hang 11
7. Bite Of The Mosquito - not on CD
8. synth improv = From Within
9. The Rena Song - not on CD
10. Gladiator = In the Moment
11. A Tune = Black Ice
~~~encore~~~
12. Hourglass - not on CD
Scott
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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 18:25:56 -0600
From: "Christopher Frick" <friction96@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Scenes from New York
Message-ID: <F154ezeuX5c1M1yi6pJ0000de14@hotmail.com>
Dear fellow 'Jammers:
Does anyone know how to get the Roseland DVD and video? I am fully aware
that it hasn't been released yet, but I was wondering if we're supposed to
pre-order it or something. I don't want to get shafted like I did when I
ordered my 2-Disk Transatlantic, and they ran out AFTER I sent them the
money at CDnow. I bought a DVD player just so I can watch the Roseland show
(by the way, my DVD player apparently reads right through the 'defect' in
Symphony X's "V" album, if that little swirly thing is the defect, and it
reads through huge scratches, which is cool). Dream Theater is still one of
the greatest bands out there, and I don't want to miss my opportunity to get
both the DVD and the VHS of the concert. Any help or additional knowledge
is appreciated, and for obvious reasons can be posted to the 'Jam.
Thank you all,
Friction...just does what the Voices in my head tell me to.
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:19:03 -0400
From: "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
Message-ID: <OE35IV5ilTVjYix9mp000004a51@hotmail.com>
OR.... You could play the MIDI's in winamp and set it to output to WAVE, and
oh, you have waves of all your midis, instead of doing it the long way like
Mr.Souter here suggested ;)
oh and if you want these intructions in spanish, no problem.
----- Original Message -----
]From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
>
> Sorry if I'm late on replying to this....... but here's my guess on
> transferring your MIDI files to WAVE format for burning on CD:
>
> Use your soundcard software that should have the ability to record =
> sounds
> going through the soundcard to your speakers. Get it ready. Start =
> your
> MIDI song playing. On the MIDI player, hit 'stop'. Click RECORD on =
> your
> soundcard software. Click PLAY on your MIDI player. Let the midi play =
> all
> the way through. Hit 'stop' on your soundcard software. Locate and
> rename the WAVE file appropriately (song1.wav, etc..) and repeat =
> until
> all of your WAVE files are completed.=20
> Burn the CD.
>
> JM
>
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:22:58 -0400
From: "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: dt font
Message-ID: <OE20c4bDWFQBZ8ab66e000053b4@hotmail.com>
Andy C.:
OUCH, hehe.
----- Original Message -----
]From: "Gilberto Bressan Junior" <gbressanjr@sti.com.br>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:31 AM
Subject: dt font
>
> Andy C.:
>
> The question is, though: Does Gilberto have the Majesty symbol in his
> font? :)
>
>
> Yes, my friend :-P
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:30:52 -0500
From: "Nick Bogovich" <bogie@schliz.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Petrucci/Rudess CD
Message-ID: <D42A162CC83A7F40AD63994DE54129C61726@arcadia.schliz.com>
Dan, I believe what I had labeled as "A Tune" on=20
Lines in the Sand is now known as Black Ice.
-Bogie
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nick bogovich
http://www.schliz.com/
you have been schlizzed
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-----Original Message-----
]From: Dan Costello [mailto:axeman_dannl@juno.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:13 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: RE: Petrucci/Rudess CD
I know this has been on Napster for a while, but why doesn't anybody
have "Glaidator" or "A Tune"? I've got no problem finding the other
songs (yes, I bought the album - very cool)
-Dan.
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:42:37 +1100
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Metropolis 2000 DVD
Message-ID: <001a01c07526$7d7b1800$bf4636cb@PaulTadday>
According to Hardradio.com :-
The DVD for Dream Theater's Metropolis 2000 is only the performance of the
title track with an extra hour of live footage, not the whole show as
previously reported.
Any confirmation of this Mark Bredius??
Can you give us any details as to the actual tracklisting/running time of
the DVD??
Paul.
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:04:10 +1100
From: "Paul Tadday" <dreamryche@bigpond.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Metropolis 2000 DVD
Message-ID: <002001c07529$76efa660$bf4636cb@PaulTadday>
I mean...
The title track IS the entire cd is it not???
:-P
Paul.
> According to Hardradio.com :-
>
> The DVD for Dream Theater's Metropolis 2000 is only the performance of the
> title track with an extra hour of live footage, not the whole show as
> previously reported.
>
> Any confirmation of this Mark Bredius??
> Can you give us any details as to the actual tracklisting/running time of
> the DVD??
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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 22:29:28 -0600
From: Chris Elder <twilightzone@mindspring.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5721
Message-ID: <B677C21F.6F3%twilightzone@mindspring.com>
>>
>> Ok, all this talk about Jurassic Park DVD has me curious.. Is Jurassic
>> Park 3 out yet? Or did the DVD just contain the first two JP movies ? I
>> remember hearing about Jurassic Park 3 but didn't know if it was out or on
>> that DVD..
>>
>
Comes out in theaters in the spring, probably Memorial Day. Starring Tea
Leoni, William H. Macy and Sam Neill. There is supposed to be a big cameo
from someone that has worked with Speilberg in the past. Originally it was
going to be set in between JP and TLW, but I believe now that it is set
after TLW. Speilberg is only producing, the guy that did Jumanji and
October Sky is directing.
There is also some new species of dinosaur bigger than the T-Rex.
]From what I've read it is non-stop action and thrills.
-chris
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:17:27 -0800
From: "Tim Detman" <td4235@ship.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Metropolis 2000 DVD
Message-ID: <NEBBILNCCLHOPKPBGNNNEECCCAAA.td4235@ship.edu>
it better be the entire cd!! :-) what else would the "title track" be?
i don't think it was ever reported as the whole show. a 4 hour dvd??? um
no... just as met 2000 and some extra live stuff.
the waiting carries on...
> I mean...
> The title track IS the entire cd is it not???
> :-P
>
> Paul.
>
> > According to Hardradio.com :-
> >
> > The DVD for Dream Theater's Metropolis 2000 is only the
> performance of the
> > title track with an extra hour of live footage, not the whole show as
> > previously reported.
> >
> > Any confirmation of this Mark Bredius??
> > Can you give us any details as to the actual
> tracklisting/running time of
> > the DVD??
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 03:04:56 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010103030405.036dacc0@pop3.norton.antivirus>
At 05:28 PM 1/2/2001, you wrote:
>OR.... You could play the MIDI's in winamp and set it to output to WAVE, and
>oh, you have waves of all your midis, instead of doing it the long way like
>Mr.Souter here suggested ;)
Yeah, but if you want them to sound decent, you shouldn't use a computer's
MIDI playback engine, since all of them have really wimpy samples. For the
best sound, you need to go to a good MIDI instrument and record them the
long way.
~Chris
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:06:45 -0400
From: "Andre Navarro" <gan_andre@hotmail.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
Message-ID: <OE55WmNpNpupMQG2inw0000566e@hotmail.com>
yeah but MIDI will always sound so 80's even on a good MIDI instrument.
----- Original Message -----
]From: "Chris Oates" <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
>
> At 05:28 PM 1/2/2001, you wrote:
> >OR.... You could play the MIDI's in winamp and set it to output to WAVE,
and
> >oh, you have waves of all your midis, instead of doing it the long way
like
> >Mr.Souter here suggested ;)
>
> Yeah, but if you want them to sound decent, you shouldn't use a computer's
> MIDI playback engine, since all of them have really wimpy samples. For
the
> best sound, you need to go to a good MIDI instrument and record them the
> long way.
>
> ~Chris
>
>
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:28:55 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D11B6@ISDCRE00>
hahahah I forget about WinAmp's Wave-Out option......... Never used it but
heard about it.. Good suggestion.
JM
-----Original Message-----
> From: Andre Navarro [SMTP:gan_andre@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:18 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
>
>
> yeah but MIDI will always sound so 80's even on a good MIDI instrument.
> ----- Original Message -----
> ]From: "Chris Oates" <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:24 AM
> Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
>
>
> >
> > At 05:28 PM 1/2/2001, you wrote:
> > >OR.... You could play the MIDI's in winamp and set it to output to
> WAVE,
> and
> > >oh, you have waves of all your midis, instead of doing it the long way
> like
> > >Mr.Souter here suggested ;)
> >
> > Yeah, but if you want them to sound decent, you shouldn't use a
> computer's
> > MIDI playback engine, since all of them have really wimpy samples. For
> the
> > best sound, you need to go to a good MIDI instrument and record them the
> > long way.
> >
> > ~Chris
> >
> >
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:31:02 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A037D11B7@ISDCRE00>
OR..... another long suggestion.... learn to play keys themselves and
program the drums and sounds and record THAT ! haha
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Oates [SMTP:aspect-lists@tinagh.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 5:24 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: little bunch of questions and thoughts about dt ...
>
>
> At 05:28 PM 1/2/2001, you wrote:
> >OR.... You could play the MIDI's in winamp and set it to output to WAVE,
> and
> >oh, you have waves of all your midis, instead of doing it the long way
> like
> >Mr.Souter here suggested ;)
>
> Yeah, but if you want them to sound decent, you shouldn't use a computer's
>
> MIDI playback engine, since all of them have really wimpy samples. For
> the
> best sound, you need to go to a good MIDI instrument and record them the
> long way.
>
> ~Chris
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:58:30 -0700
From: Jared Emery <jared@fourwinds-trading.com>
To: Jared Emery <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: New Tunes
Message-ID: <1010003100203.KAA12435@gate.fourwinds-trading.com>
So, due to recommendations from all you ytse-heads, i have bought four new =
disks.=20
Children of Bodom- hatebreeder
Vanden Plas- far off grace
Pain of Salvation- the perfect element
Quo Vadis- Angel
all i can say, is thank you to all who consistently provide new music sources, =
i also want to help by bringing up a band called Madsword. I think they're from =
italy, and their music is very cool, but i can only find like one or two songs =
off napster, and i am willing to buy the disk, but no where to find it. Can =
anyone help?
also, any recommendations for new music please reply.....oh yeah, where can i =
find the vanden plas "spirit of live" disk?
Jared
"Never confuse lack of talent with genius" (like kirt cobain)
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:09:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Korg Ecksthrey philosophy
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0101031405350.6575-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
I was looking through my archive of old jam material (I have ack mode
messages dating back to 5/1/99, that's over eleven thousand messages...
Jeez) and came across this message from Korg (well, it's only part of a
message, but it's the important part):
<< Korg's daily thought:
And if you think about it, if Jesus were alive today and went around
curing illnesses and stuff, do you realize what the first thing that would
happen once word got out would be? A crazed team of government dispensed
scientists would tackle him and cut him up to see what made him tick. Of
course they'd dissect as many of the recipients of his belevolence as
well. At least, anyway, he'd make the cover of Enquirer or Weekly World
News. -- Thought spawned from listening to Ocean Machine's "Greetings."
Don't you love modern society? Or do I just watch too much TV? :) >>
I realized, as I did when I first read this a year ago, how profound this
was. Just thought I'd share it with everybody...
-------------------------------------------------
Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
Cloak on IRC
ICQ: 2513441
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Researchers have discovered that chocolate
produces some of the same reactions in the brain
as marijuana. The researchers also discovered
other similarities between the two, but can't
remember what they are.
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:26:34 +0200
From: "Jyrki Takalo-Kastari" <jykke@nic.fi>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: New Tunes
Message-ID: <002101c075bb$23724780$41f026d4@jykke>
----- Original Message -----
]From: "Jared Emery" <jared@fourwinds-trading.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:19 PM
Subject: New Tunes
> So, due to recommendations from all you ytse-heads, i have bought four new
=
> disks.=20
>
> Children of Bodom- hatebreeder
> Vanden Plas- far off grace
> Pain of Salvation- the perfect element
> Quo Vadis- Angel
>
> also, any recommendations for new music please reply.....oh yeah, where
can i =
> find the vanden plas "spirit of live" disk?
>
The new Children of Bodom album called Follow the Reaper is very good also.
Also check out another finnish band called Sentenced if you haven't yet.
Start with Crimson, Frozen or Down. They're all great albums.
I've seen Spirit of Live in atleast 3 music stores here where I live so it
shouldn't be so hard to find.
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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:14:04 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: MIDI files
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010103101207.036ca358@pop3.norton.antivirus>
At 06:18 AM 1/3/2001, you wrote:
>yeah but MIDI will always sound so 80's even on a good MIDI instrument.
You've obviously never heard a REAL pro-level MIDI keyboard, or aren't
aware that you've heard one.
>OR..... another long suggestion.... learn to play keys themselves and
>program the drums and sounds and record THAT ! haha
Why would that be different? If the MIDI data already exists, then why not
just route it through a good keyboard rather than play it again? Unless
the MIDI files have some mistakes in the data...
~Chris
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:32:42 -0800
From: "Trevor Hoit" <thoit@winstar.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: vanishing points-little DTC
Message-ID: <001601c075bb$f1812240$574b010a@winstar.com>
Has anyone heard Vanishing Point-Tangled in Dream cd?
It's decent Australian melodic metal with some prog tendencies, but the
thing that stands out is the most Space-Dye Vest inspired/rip-off/clone
song called Dancing with the Devil. It's a keyboard/vocal track
with tv/movie samples just like SDV. They also cover Floyd's
On the Turning Away.
Not a bad cd, but not as prog as they would like you to think.
My 2 cents (US),
Trevor
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:55:24 -0700
From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <stinkfist@digitalfeces.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Korg Ecksthrey philosophy
Message-ID: <002b01c075bf$2e1f2410$645892d0@default>
It makes sense, though, doesn't it? I mean, if the Biblical Jesus existed
(hey, I'm a skeptic) and thus returned, why do people think he'd come back
in a flash of colored light, 300 feet tall, or with sparkling little faerie
lights dancing around his head? And if Jesus were to return as a regular
bloke, I'd wager that 99.99999999...% of Christians would denounce him.
(David Koresh, anyone?) Ah, well. Just food for thought. :)
-- KorgX3 doesn't care either way, cuz if there's a hell, it's gonna be a killer party place. :D------------------------------
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