YTSEJAM digest 5749

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Sun Jan 28 2001 - 10:15:09 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5749

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Denon experts
     by Ryan Veety <ryan@ryanspc.com>
      2) Why "Cell" phones in America... (NDTC)
     by Josh Brand <jbrand@mtu.edu>
      3) Re: Setlist Scotty's NAMM Adventure pt2
     by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
      4) NAMM Adventure parts out of sequence
     by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
      5) Re: Why "Cell" phones in America... (NDTC)
     by "Timo Virkkala" <wt@nic.fi>
      6) Re: NAMM Adventure parts out of sequence
     by Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
      7) supporting the bands
     by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>

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    Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:11:21 -0500 (EST)
    From: Ryan Veety <ryan@ryanspc.com>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Denon experts
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0101271401470.19232-100000@RyansPC.com>

    Thats true, but extra low sounds below human hearing is always nice. You
    can't hear 20Hz but you sure can feel it. My car stereo's response is
    actually goes down to about 16hz. The low bass can also give a feeling of
    spaciousness which is kinda cool.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't have a homie bass system. I put a lot of time
    and money into my car stereo to give the flattest frequency response I can
    get and the clearest audio on my limited budget. I have a subsonic filter
    switch on my EQ and I enjoy the sound much more when its off.

    Ryan

    On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Mustaine Fan wrote:

    >
    > I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but the audio
    > frequencies are 20Hz to 20,000Hz. There's no real point in
    > getting any freqencies above or below this, because the
    > average human ear won't be able to hear it anyways. I
    > noticed (particulary with car systems) speakers have a 2
    > way model with a response of 60Hz-22KHz, and a three way
    > of 60Hz-32KHz. These are pointless and not worth your
    > money. I don't think you have that problem in home audio.
    >
    > Have Cool, Will Travel.
    >
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    Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:52:12 -0500
    From: Josh Brand <jbrand@mtu.edu>
    To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Why "Cell" phones in America... (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <B698911B.309F%jbrand@mtu.edu>

    For whoever asked about why I call my Nokia 6161i a cell phone and not a
    mobile... (it doesn't do custom ring tones...but it plays Ode To Joy when my
    gal calls :) )

    Around 1947 AT&T had ideas for mobile phones. The idea was that instead of
    large radio towers and big, bulky, ultra-powerful phones, small towers with
    limited range and similar phones would be used. This could be accomplished
    if each tower was spaced apart so that their useful trasmitting ranges just
    overlapped, and than all could use the same frequencies over and over within
    their own transmitting/receiving area. When a call left a tower's coverage
    area, it was "handed-off" to another tower on another frequency. When drawn
    on a map, these zones looked like a honeycomb. When van Leeuwenhoek first
    used a microscope to look at cork tissue, their honeycomb-like arrangement
    reminded him of the cells of monks, so he called the spaces cells, and we
    still do in biology today. So, being the creative guys they were at Ma Bell,
    they did the same thing with their multi-tower map, and each coverage area
    became known as a "cell".

    In case you're wondering why cell phones are rather new when the idea was
    put forth just after WWII, it's because the technology to actually do the
    cellular scheme didn't exist. When AT&T asked the Federal Communications
    Commission (which regulated all airwaves in the US) to give them some
    bandwidth to work in so that the idea would be marketable if worked on, the
    FCC gave them hardly any space. (The rest of the world was slow going on
    this technology 'cause they were all mostly beat to shit by the war and had
    other stuff to do, like feed people.) So it wasn't really until thirty years
    later, when Ameritech first set up a trial commercial cell service in
    Chicago, that we finally had cell service in America. The rest is history.

    As for why the rest of the world calls these phones "mobile", I'm not sure.
    Maybe the "cell" idiom didn't transfer well, or if European engineers were
    working on these phones as well, they certainly weren't going to use AT&T's
    name for it. So the simple name mobile was adopted.

    Anyway, sorry to rant. Just thought I'd throw my .02 in since I actually had
    info. --J

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    Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:17:40 -0800
    From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Setlist Scotty's NAMM Adventure pt2
    Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010127121320.00a31300@mail.phoenixdsl.com>

    At 06:14 PM 1/26/01 -0800, you wrote:

    >tracks. After JP, Steve Lukather came up on stage and did a track. Last up
    >was Albert Lee, joined by the EB/MM bigwig who was MC'ing that night on
    >bass,
             That would have been Ernie Ball himself if I remember right. :-)

    >was one with Albert Lee singing (as was Tear It Up). They each had their
    >section to solo over and i must admit that JP seemed a bit out of his
    >element during this jam. Not that what he played sucked or anything (I
    >thought it was good) but he looked uncomfortable up there.
             Yeah, he wasn't into the rhythym part of the jam, I don't think he
    knew what they were playing actually, because Steve Lukather kept showing
    him what the chords were. But, after Albert Lee ripped it up (country
    flat-picking style) for his solo spot, John P. did a really cool solo in
    that same style (although at JP break neck speed)... you could see Albert
    Lee and Ernie Ball nodding and smiling in approval.

    >to your imagination! They did end the main set with Cruise Control tho! And
    >for the encore, Van and Rod Morgenstein did a drum solo/duet before the rest
    >of the Dregs came back on stage and they played a song with both drummers.
             I'll second it... the Dregs kicked some butt, and the dual drum
    solo was one of the coolest points of the night...

    ~Michael Kizer < mike@ivorygate.com > < ICQ # 2070538 >
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    Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:56:59 -0800
    From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: NAMM Adventure parts out of sequence
    Message-ID: <B698761B.15FF%schansen@cts.com>

    Just an FYI, when I sent my NAMM Adventure to the Jam, I did do it in order!
    :p

    Scott

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    Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:31:34 +0200
    From: "Timo Virkkala" <wt@nic.fi>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Why "Cell" phones in America... (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <008b01c088a8$8f2c43e0$4ee126d4@pentium>

    ]From: "Josh Brand" <jbrand@mtu.edu>
    > As for why the rest of the world calls these phones "mobile", I'm not
    sure.
    > Maybe the "cell" idiom didn't transfer well, or if European engineers w=
    ere
    > working on these phones as well, they certainly weren't going to use
    AT&T's
    > name for it. So the simple name mobile was adopted.

    I know that the term cell phone is mainly used in the U.S. and mobile pho=
    ne
    in the rest of the world (while speaking English) but guess what we Finns
    call them? Hand phones. Or, actually, "hand phone" would be "k=E4sipuheli=
    n"
    and we mainly use "k=E4nnykk=E4", which could probably be translated as "=
    handy"
    (as in a short for hand phone, not as in useful). We also have other, les=
    s
    common and more humorous names for them... (I actually know one person wh=
    o
    refers to his phone as "dildo" =3D)

    -WT-

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    Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:31:57 -0500 (EST)
    From: Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: NAMM Adventure parts out of sequence
    Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1010128013103.11188A-100000@sparcy.geneva.edu>

    On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Scott Hansen wrote:

    >
    > Just an FYI, when I sent my NAMM Adventure to the Jam, I did do it in order!
    > :p
    >
    > Scott
    >
    >

    We believe you, honest. Thanks for posting it in the first place. Muchas
    gracias, mi hermano.

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    Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 09:06:04 -0600
    From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
    To: <jmsouter@airmail.net>
    Subject: supporting the bands
    Message-ID: <001001c0893b$d564c240$0238240a@airmail.net>

    This is an excellent point.

    -----Original Message-----
    ]From: Veronique.paul@eurodb.be [mailto:Veronique.paul@eurodb.be]
    Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:52 AM
    To: nightwish@egroups.com

    Hi,

    To really support the band when you buy a cd, it is better to buy it to
    the merchandising of the band during the gig. They buy the cd's at a
    preferential price to the recording company, and the difference between
    the normal price and the price they paid for it is for the band (minus
    merchandising costs). The band earn more on this kind of sale than if
    you buy cd in shops. Of course, this is only possible when the band
    have a merchandising on tour.

    Véro

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