YTSEJAM digest 5905

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Wed Jul 18 2001 - 20:40:32 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5905

    Today's Topics:

      1) Kamelot - "Karma" / "Addition by Subtraction"
     by Jeff Gutenberg <aurakle@earthlink.net>
      2) James LaBrie / Pain of Salvation
     by "Joe DeAngelo" <joe.deangelo@home.com>
      3) PoS, DT and emotion
     by "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net>
      4) Boston G3 Pics / Update on Boston G3 Boot
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
      5) YTSEJAM shirts
     by "T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
      6) Re: YTSEJAM shirts
     by "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com>
      7) Re: Response to POS review (JL props)
     by "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
      8) AudioGalaxy Spyware...
     by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)

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    Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:04:17 -0400
    From: Jeff Gutenberg <aurakle@earthlink.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Kamelot - "Karma" / "Addition by Subtraction"
    Message-ID: <200107180105.SAA29113@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

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    Hey all...

    The new Kamelot album is excellent; the band just keeps getting better
    and better. I wish they'd get a full-time keyboard player, though. As
    for the "Addition by Subtraction" album, that one is by the
    extraordinary triumvirate of Scott McGill (guitars), Michael Manring
    (bass) and Vic Stevens (drums), with guest performances by the one and
    only Jordan Rudess -- and it is absolutely scorching. If you love
    jazz-rock fusion in the vein of Allan Holdsworth, you must purchase this
    disc.

    Jeff
    AIM: AURACLE
    ICQ: 122811067

    > Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:04:32 -0300
    > From: "Tony/Alexis/Axel" <alexis1@prtc.net>
    > To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    > Subject: new Kamelot, more (some DT content)
    > Message-ID: <005201c10f0c$77ba3240$c1153242@prtc.net>
    >
    > Hey, any reviews of the new Kamelot album? And also, any reviews of an
    > album that's on the Laser's Edge label, which has Michael Manring on
    > bass
    > and Jordan Rudess as a guest performer? I forgot the name of the
    > album (I
    > think it might be Addition by Substraction or something like that), and
    > the
    > band's name is the last names of the bassist, drummer and guitarist.
    > Thanks!
    >
    > Alexis
    >

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    <bold>Hey all...

    The new Kamelot album is excellent; the band just keeps getting better
    and better. I wish they'd get a full-time keyboard player, though.
    As for the "Addition by Subtraction" album, that one is by the
    extraordinary triumvirate of Scott McGill (guitars), Michael Manring
    (bass) and Vic Stevens (drums), with guest performances by the one and
    only Jordan Rudess -- and it is absolutely scorching. If you love
    jazz-rock fusion in the vein of Allan Holdsworth, you must purchase
    this disc.

    </bold>

    <bold>Jeff

    AIM: AURACLE

    ICQ: 122811067

    </bold>

    <excerpt>Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:04:32 -0300

    From: "Tony/Alexis/Axel" <<alexis1@prtc.net>

    To: "ytsejam" <<ytsejam@torchsong.com>

    Subject: new Kamelot, more (some DT content)

    Message-ID: <<005201c10f0c$77ba3240$c1153242@prtc.net>

    Hey, any reviews of the new Kamelot album? And also, any reviews of an

    album that's on the Laser's Edge label, which has Michael Manring on
    bass

    and Jordan Rudess as a guest performer? I forgot the name of the
    album (I

    think it might be Addition by Substraction or something like that),
    and the

    band's name is the last names of the bassist, drummer and guitarist.

    Thanks!

    Alexis

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    Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 22:59:37 -0400
    From: "Joe DeAngelo" <joe.deangelo@home.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: James LaBrie / Pain of Salvation
    Message-ID: <004301c10f35$ae53dee0$d0c90741@stcl1.mi.home.com>

    > He is a perfect match for DT, and for the
    > quality of music they are creating and performing.

    I agree completely. I can't even really imagine DT without James at the
    helm. He's a huge part of their wonderful sound, and also the success
    they've had.

    > Now about the review-The reviewer obviously wasn't a big fan of prog
    > in general which is why I think he judged DT so harshly in the review. I
    > won't blame P.O.S. for the review-they didn't utter a Blind Melon-esque
    > comment. I will give them a listen if I find something of theirs around.

    Definitely don't blame Pain of Salvation. They're fans of Dream Theater
    (they name Dream Theater as an influence).

    And yes, you really should check them out! They are absolutely the best
    (and most original) prog-metal band to come around since DT, at least IMO.

    - Joe D.

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    Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 23:33:15 -0400
    From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: PoS, DT and emotion
    Message-ID: <3B55037B.DA0@atl.mediaone.net>

    > Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:06:33 -0700
    > From: "Tim Detman" <TimDetman@ematic.com>
    > To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    > Subject: RE: Response to POS review (JL props)
    >
    > Also...about the POS review, I don't agree they sound much like DT at
    > all. There are some similarities, but saying that POS has more soul and
    > emotion...that kind of discredits the whole review I think.

    I think the reviewer was using, as his DT yardstick, the "cold" feeling
    of I&W (having Mike's drums sampled and triggered didn't help) and DT's
    reputation, up through the I&W tours and the Awake recording sessions,
    as a relatively emotionless band.

    Clearly the reviewer hasn't watched the DVD. He clearly didn't see the
    animation that DT developed onstage after the addition of Derek
    Sherinian to their live setting -- you can say what you want about
    Derek, but there's no question he helped bring DT's live shows up a few
    notches in the "fun" department, and it looked as if the other guys in
    the band played off that; the result was a more laid-back live "feel."

    PoS more emotional than DT? Sure, quite possibly this is true. Their
    performance in Chicago was easily one of the best 5 concerts I've EVER
    seen. But DT has made huge strides since the cold, technical I&W days,
    and I think that reviewer overlooked this.

    -- 
    +--- Paul W. Cashman, pellaz@atl.mediaone.net  ICQ 4151223  ----+
    |      Website:  http://people.atl.mediaone.net/pellaz/         |
    |                     or  www.paulcashman.com  :)               |
    +---------------------------------------------------------------+
    

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    Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 12:27:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu> To: themirror@yahoogroups.com, ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Boston G3 Pics / Update on Boston G3 Boot Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0107181224470.54290-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>

    I had taken a whopping 72 pics of the concert in Boston, but when I actually looked at them, some of them just didn't cut it. Apparently they looked much better in the LCD viewfinder than on a computer screen. :) Anyway, I put all the decent/good ones on my website at http://cout.dhs.org/g3/ so go check 'em out.

    As for the Boston G3 Boot that was supposed to go up at Lines in the Sand... Apparently our media server's network has been having some problems and so it's down right now. We don't know why it won't come back up or when it will come back up, so right now we're unable to upload the G3 show. Sorry. :(

    ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu http://cout.dhs.org/ ------------------------------------------------- The only stupid question is the one that is never asked, except maybe "Don't you think it's about time you audited my tax return?" or "But officer, isn't it morally wrong to give me a warning when, in fact, I was speeding?" -------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:38:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: YTSEJAM shirts Message-ID: <20010718163819.57155.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>

    I wore my ytsejam shirt to a MP.com forum get-together and the G3 show in DC last night. I received a few responses from it, so thanks to the guy that made and sold them!

    Todd

    PS great show!

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    Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:21:13 -0400 From: "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM shirts Message-ID: <008901c10fae$0c0eb0a0$0300005a@kezp3800>

    ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:53 PM Subject: YTSEJAM shirts

    > I wore my ytsejam shirt to a MP.com forum get-together > and the G3 show in DC last night. I received a few > responses from it, so thanks to the guy that made and > sold them! > > Todd > > PS great show! >

    Yo Todd,

    I wore mine, too, remember? Had on my canary yellow model for the rooftop gathering, then got so sweaty walking back to the car from Metro before the show that I decided to change into my old school(ax.com) black model. Someone outside the Warner, during one of the intermissions, asked me where in the world I got the shirt. hehe Told him they were long since gone.

    And yeah, thanks to Josh, and to Pat D.(he did the old one, I believe) for continuing the YtseShirt tradition.

    Kez, still on Cloud G3

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    Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 05:12:02 +0300 From: "Nicholas Sakkos" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr> To: "Ytsejam list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Response to POS review (JL props) Message-ID: <000c01c10f2f$09fdebc0$92df6693@----->

    >>My suggestion to you is this: go out to your local >used CD store (that is where you'll find all the grunge) and purchase as >much >nasty garbage as you can (i.e. Nirvana, uck) and then lock yourself in a >room >for a day listening to all of that garbage. > That is the worst suggestion I have ever heard. I can't imagine spending >money on grunge music, even used music. Funny how they sell grunge as >"used" now. I didn't know music was disposable. I guess stuff like grunge >is. :-) >

    Grunge was not garbage.Grunge was not just Nirvana.Do lock yourself in a room and listen to Soundgarden or Alice in Chains and tell me that they're disposable or that Chris Cornell is so awful that just makes you love Kevin James La Brie in an instance.

    cheers mate

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    Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:30:04 -0400 (EDT) From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: AudioGalaxy Spyware... Message-ID: <m15N0lY-000JltC@mail.interzone.com>

    For those of you who use AudioGalaxy, you should be aware that it has a Spyware component called 'webhancer'. This component uploads information about what web sites you visit to a remote site. Be very careful if you try to remove this webhancer program yourself since it can cause system problems if you don't do it correctly. See these web pages for more information.

    Details on how AudioGalaxy is Spyware: http://www.infoanarchy.org/?op=displaystory&sid 01/3/8/85932/50858 http://www.net-security.org/text/bugs/986812078,22787,.shtml

    Look to see if specific software you have downloaded is Spyware: http://www.spychecker.com/ Specific info on WebHancer near the bottom of the page: http://www.angelfire.com/rock2/thespiralarchitect/security.htm

    Also, there is supposed to be a way to remove the webhancer spyware from your system (and presumably still use AudioGalaxy). I have not tried it yet (I don't have AudioGalaxy). To remove it get AdAware 5: http://www.lavasoftUSA.com/

    Steve

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