YTSEJAM Digest 5904
Today's Topics:
1) Boston G3 gig / Anybody want a bootleg?
by Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
2) RE: holy...
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
3) Re: G3 tix price
by "Shadow Mage" <shadow_majesty@hotmail.com>
4) Response to POS review, Tim Detman
by Fireprotectguy@cs.com
5) RE: Response to POS review (JL props)
by "Tim Detman" <TimDetman@ematic.com>
6) new Kamelot, more (some DT content)
by "Tony/Alexis/Axel" <alexis1@prtc.net>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 01:16:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Coutermarsh <a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Boston G3 gig / Anybody want a bootleg?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0107170104400.79225-100000@oz.plymouth.edu>
So I just got back from the Boston G3 gig, which I went to with Bogie and
Skadz, whom I met for the first time today. Nice guy. ;)
Anyway, not only did we manage to sneak Bogie's DAT in, but I also got my
digital camera through the gates as well, and managed to take an astound-
ing *72* pictures of the four sets. They will ALL go online within the
next few days, but I have to wait until I get home from Boston because I
don't have any of the connection cables to download the photos to PC.
Bogie and I have been listening to the Petrucci set on his computer, and
we've started remastering it so we can upload it to Lines in the
Sand. And we will most definitely be uploading the MP3 version at the
very least TONIGHT. The CD Audio version may have to wait a little bit
longer simply because it takes longer to upload. In addition, it looks
like the machine which hosts our media files for LITS is down at the
moment; the problem is being addressed even as I type this.
So check LITS tonight / Wednesday morning-afternoon and you should find a
fresh new boot!
Oh yeah, and we just uploaded a CD-Audio version and an MP3 version of
Nighttown Nostalgia to LITS, so keep on the lookout for that as
well. (For those of you who don't know what NN is, it was 6/22/98, the
Rotterdam Fan Club gig.)
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Andrew Coutermarsh
a_couter@mail.plymouth.edu
http://cout.dhs.org/
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"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool
than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 08:38:34 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: holy...
Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A05A8A86D@ISDCRE00>
You might like it. If there is a Mexican Food Restaurant in your area, get
a side dish and use it like dip for your chips.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicholas Sakkos [SMTP:el00144@mail.ntua.gr]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:34 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: holy...
>
> what's a guacamoli and how is it properly spelled?
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:50:36 -0500
From: "Shadow Mage" <shadow_majesty@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: G3 tix price
Message-ID: <F182tzcbLDiKBsuZ2K400007e5c@hotmail.com>
><Last year's G3 DVD????? What the hell. How did I miss this? What's it
all about? The only G3 video I knew of was the original lineup of
Satch/Johnson/Vai. Didn't know there was anything else released with any
other G3 lineup, even though there have been several since then. Tell me
more....><
OK, minor wording problem on my part. Last year's DVD was S/J/V, I was just
saying that if I can't see this year's G3 I could get that DVD and SFNY and
have videos of Satch, Vai, and Petrucci, although not together. I only wish
that SymX had a DVD out... Sorry about getting your hopes up, I should have
been a little more careful in my wording. But, your idea was a great one:
maybe we could start a petition for Petrucci, Romeo, and somebody else
(Steve Howe? Steve Morse?) to do their own G3 tour and make a DVD. THAT
would be sweet. Hehe...
I better stop with the Prog fantasies before someone hurts his/herself!
--The Other Christopher
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 11:45:03 EDT
From: Fireprotectguy@cs.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Response to POS review, Tim Detman
Message-ID: <120.1c5da65.2885b77f@cs.com>
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Tim Detman wrote: "some things i agree with, some i don't.
I agree with the singer comment. the more i listen to dt, the more i
realize that james labrie doesn't fit. he's great when he's processed in a
studio environment. but when he's live he sometimes pushes his voice past
what it is meant to do. just my opinion..."
My Response:
I totally disagree with this comment. In fact, I couldn't disagree more. In
a era of music whose blueprint for success in song writing is "verse-sing,
chorus-scream, verse-sing, repeat", it is a pleasant surprise to hear some
music from time to time that involves talent and musicianship. I have seen
Dream Theater some 17 times in concert, I realize that barely touches the
amount of times that some people have seen DT live. Although I am humbled by
the number of shows people like Skadz have been to, I can make a judgement
for myself on K. James LaBrie. I can tell you that for every off night that
JL has, he has 20 good ones. He is a perfect match for DT, and for the
quality of music they are creating and performing. It is essential that the
singer for DT have the ability and vocal range that spans a wide range. DT
has so much ability that it would be a shame to see someone sing for the band
who couldn't hit the high notes or had a monotone voice as many vocalists in
bands do today. JL represents an educated singer, someone who takes vocals
very seriously, not some "joe" off the street who can sing monotone or scream
hard and loud.
I will admit (and don't take this as a personal shot at you Tim) that
when I first started listening to DT, JL bothered the shit out of me. Why?
Because I was so used to the commercial, mass-produced, over-digitized
garbage that was being created in the early 90's that was postceded by a
wonderful (insert sarcasm) creation called "Grunge" but I won't even get into
that. Anyways, DT was a salvation for me, and JL grew on me so quickly that
I never looked back. My suggestion to you is this: go out to your local
used CD store (that is where you'll find all the grunge) and purchase as much
nasty garbage as you can (i.e. Nirvana, uck) and then lock yourself in a room
for a day listening to all of that garbage. Then, at the end of the day, put
on some DT. You'll find you'll accept JL like a steak to a starving tiger.
I sympathize with you Tim because I did the same thing. I don't know how
long you've been listening to DT though so I am not sure what "stage" of
listening you are in when it pertains to them. I know that at first I
thought JL didn't fit DT, but the more I listen to DT, the more I feel that
he is the PERFECT match for them-especially after listening to WDADU, damn, C
Dominici sucked!
Now about the review-The reviewer obviously wasn't a big fan of prog
in general which is why I think he judged DT so harshly in the review. I
won't blame P.O.S. for the review-they didn't utter a Blind Melon-esque
comment. I will give them a listen if I find something of theirs around.
Jeremy Kube
Student/Consultant
Oklahoma State University
School of Fire Protection and Safety Engineering Technology
Office of Radiation Safety
fireprotectguy@cs.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:06:33 -0700
From: "Tim Detman" <TimDetman@ematic.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Response to POS review (JL props)
Message-ID: <NFBBLNEFEPNCDBJOJHBIKECJCAAA.TimDetman@ematic.com>
I've been listening to DT for a few years now. Have seen them 3 times
live. I have heard countless live recordings/bootlegs. In my opinion they
are the best band ever. I have never seen a group live that can put on a
show like they do. Everything they do is about the music. They don't need
giant props or 8,000 lights. That is what I love about them.
>He is a perfect match for DT, and for the quality of music they are
creating and performing.....JL represents an educated singer, someone who
takes vocals very seriously, not some "joe" off the street who can sing
monotone or scream hard and loud.
I agree he is an excellent singer. He actually knows what he is doing. I
have a great amount of respect for him. Today most "singers" for bands have
no idea what they are doing with their voice, they just decide they can sing
one day and start singin'. My main annoyance with JL is what he does when
he sings live. Sometimes he lets himself get too loud. Sounds like a knife
comming out of my speakers. I say this in contrast to his studio recordings
where they seem to mix him into the total sound more.
>My suggestion to you is this: go out to your local
used CD store (that is where you'll find all the grunge) and purchase as
much
nasty garbage as you can (i.e. Nirvana, uck) and then lock yourself in a
room
for a day listening to all of that garbage.
That is the worst suggestion I have ever heard. I can't imagine spending
money on grunge music, even used music. Funny how they sell grunge as
"used" now. I didn't know music was disposable. I guess stuff like grunge
is. :-)
In my short blurb I never meant to come off as meaning DT should find a
new singer. That would be the dumbest thing they could ever do. I just
think sometimes he should relax, esp. live. But believe me, he's never
going to stop me from supporting DT. They are the best at what they do.
Also...about the POS review, I don't agree they sound much like DT at
all. There are some similarities, but saying that POS has more soul and
emotion...that kind of discredits the whole review I think.
-Tim
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:04:32 -0300
From: "Tony/Alexis/Axel" <alexis1@prtc.net>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: new Kamelot, more (some DT content)
Message-ID: <005201c10f0c$77ba3240$c1153242@prtc.net>
Hey, any reviews of the new Kamelot album? And also, any reviews of an
album that's on the Laser's Edge label, which has Michael Manring on bass
and Jordan Rudess as a guest performer? I forgot the name of the album (I
think it might be Addition by Substraction or something like that), and the
band's name is the last names of the bassist, drummer and guitarist.
Thanks!
Alexis
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