YTSEJAM digest 5842

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Fri May 04 2001 - 01:32:18 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 5842

    Today's Topics:

      1) MetalMayhem...
     by Paul Ninnis <PaulN@TimeAndPeople.com.au>
      2) Re: FII etc.
     by Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
      3) Re: Eternity X
     by Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
      4) Re: tour photos
     by "Zalozba Izolit" <izolit@siol.net>
      5) member..huh huh
     by Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
      6) Re: FII etc.
     by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
      7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 5841
     by Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com>
      8) RE: member..huh huh
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
      9) dvd comments
     by "Daniel Mikkola" <jcdrummer67@hotmail.com>
     10) Re: dvd comments
     by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <prog@yunque.net>
     11) Re: Eternity X
     by Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu>
     12) Metropolis 2000: Scenes from New York
     by Richard <karies@wxs.nl>
     13) DVD Easter Eggs (I guess you might think this needs a SPOILER ALERT)
     by Richard <karies@wxs.nl>
     14) vinnie/jennifer
     by trevor hoit <trevorhoit@yahoo.com>
     15) dark mood
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
     16) Re: great last jam
     by "Dark Majesty" <shadow_majesty@hotmail.com>

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:16:36 +0930
    From: Paul Ninnis <PaulN@TimeAndPeople.com.au>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: MetalMayhem...
    Message-ID: <61BA286C6C56D11187B50000E83A13CB316084@EDDIE>

    > I'd avoid MetalMayhem as much as possible. They are way overpriced,
    trying
    > to cash in on people looking for OOP stuff.

    Don't confuse this store with the Australian
    store of the same name: www.metalmayhem.com.au
    I've dealt with them solidly, and they have
    alot of stuff thats is normally pretty hard
    to get hold of anywhere in Australia, and
    their prices are quite decent.
    If you're from the US, you should check them
    out coz our exchange rate is currently quite
    shocking, and you may be surprised by what
    prices you'll end up getting stuff for.

    Reimport again ;-)

    NP: Eternity X - The Edge (more emotion than you can poke a stick at)

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    Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 23:18:54 -0700
    From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: FII etc.
    Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010502231657.04990aa0@pop.business.earthlink.net>

    At 09:23 AM 5/2/2001, you wrote:
    >It doesn't have to be dark to be emotional. Jordan's music is emotioinal.
    >It's happy.

    "limited emotional spectrum" doesn't mean "unemotional" -- He's limited to
    happier tunes.

    >Anyway, according to DT on the commentary, Finally Free was mainly a Jordan
    >piece, and I find parts of that to be particularly dark and somber.

    The lyrics are certainly dark, but the music isn't too dark. Heck, the
    chorus with slightly different words could be a love song...

          ~Chris

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    Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 23:21:30 -0700
    From: Chris Oates <aspect-lists@tinagh.org>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Eternity X
    Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010502232039.00abadb0@pop.business.earthlink.net>

    >NP: Eternity X - The Edge (more emotion than you can poke a stick at)

    Is that the same band who did "Zodiac"? -- I couldn't even get through that
    album once due to the cheeze factor. Is this one better?

          ~Chris

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 09:09:24 +0200
    From: "Zalozba Izolit" <izolit@siol.net>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: tour photos
    Message-ID: <000701c0d39f$fd01fa80$0600005a@si.arnes.si>

    > So has anyone been able to spot themselves in the tour photos? <g> Keith
    > thinks he may have, but I say we need to watch on a bigger TV to know for
    > sure. ;)

    Ljubljana, front row center, red t-shirt, can't miss me :)

    Matej

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    Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 04:10:46 -0400
    From: Joshua Rasiel <megafunk@optonline.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: member..huh huh
    Message-ID: <3AF11286.DC9F4986@optonline.com>

    >Although I did rather enjoy the Hot Asian Girls
    >at the top oft he last Jam. Members only or free for all
    >doesn't really matter to me as long as it's not the "members"
    >clogging up the Jam with

    I'd love to clog up some Asian Girls with my member.

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    Date: 03 May 2001 10:47:31 +0100
    From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: FII etc.
    Message-ID: <86elu6u5l8.fsf@picsel.com>

    JamesAhab@aol.com writes:

    > It doesn't have to be dark to be emotional. Jordan's music is
    > emotioinal. It's happy.

    I think his parts in Finally Free, specifically the chimes, are
    suitably dark and sinister.

    -- 
    Graham Borland                                   Picsel Technologies Ltd
    graham@picsel.com                                      Glasgow, Scotland
    

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 13:30:14 +0200 From: Steffen Barabasch - The Mirror <TheMirror@dtifc.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 5841 Message-ID: <p04330101b716efc91caf@[192.168.1.155]>

    >Fully agreed! Kevin Gilbert really was something special. Of course a good >question is: what would FII have sounded like, when he'd have produced it. I >think that it would have been even more into the progressive rock direction >also including many pop elements.

    Which is exactly the style of FII, so it would have fit perfectly.

    >Listen to KGs music and you'll realize that hes done the most sophisticated >pop/rock music on earth, not to mention his unbelievable production skills.

    Indeed. This is not your typical crappy Top 40 "pop".

    > > Oh, BTW, regarding the 2000 Xmas CD, please be patient, they are on > > the way to the US and will be shipped to you all ASAP. After all > > those delays you can wait a few more FUCKING DAYS, RIGHT? > >In technical terms its called "reimport", right? ;)

    No, it was made completely in Europe (Italy, Germany, France), so technically it's simply an import.

    Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch (mailto:TheMirror@dtifc.com) THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fan Club (http://www.dtifc.com/themirror)

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 08:34:44 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: member..huh huh Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A04B33B57@ISDCRE00>

    hahahaha Go Joshua Go !!!

    > -----Original Message----- > From: Joshua Rasiel [SMTP:megafunk@optonline.net] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 3:23 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: member..huh huh > > > >Although I did rather enjoy the Hot Asian Girls > >at the top oft he last Jam. Members only or free for all > >doesn't really matter to me as long as it's not the "members" > >clogging up the Jam with > > I'd love to clog up some Asian Girls with my member. > >

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    Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 06:59:12 -0700 From: "Daniel Mikkola" <jcdrummer67@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: dvd comments Message-ID: <F38tniFKULPEhGD1XyC00000b76@hotmail.com>

    <html><DIV>Well i thought the dvd was good. I was dissappointed that Portnoy didnt have a drum solo. but i guess thats that. </DIV><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com><br></p></html>

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    Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 10:09:59 -0400 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <prog@yunque.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: dvd comments Message-ID: <3AF166B7.5E8C4E07@yunque.net>

    Daniel Mikkola wrote:

    > <html><DIV>Well i thought the dvd was good. I was dissappointed that Portnoy didnt have a drum solo. but i guess thats that. </DIV><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com><br></p></html>

    Im not sure if he, as producer had anything to do with choosing who got more "screen time" but i noticed that in this DVD Mikey doesnt get as much screen time as on other discs!! Shy maybe? :)

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 10:56:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric George <edgeorge@geneva.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Eternity X Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1010503105206.23733A-100000@sparcy.geneva.edu>

    seeing the name of this song made me think of another band who does a song by the same name, only spelled "Xodiac". anyone familiar with geezer butler, the bassist from black sabbath? he did a little solo thing a while back, simply under the name "geezer", and the album is called "black science". there are songs on it i love, and songs on it i absolutely can't stand. the singer isn't necessarily a cookie monster at times, but he is definelty a screamer. however, he puts his voice through so many chameleon-like changes, that i can't help but be impressed. the music is very solid too, however a far cry from anything resembling sabbath. anyone else heard of this album? what do you think about it? give it a shot if you haven't.

    -ryften

    On Wed, 2 May 2001, Chris Oates wrote:

    > > > >NP: Eternity X - The Edge (more emotion than you can poke a stick at) > > Is that the same band who did "Zodiac"? -- I couldn't even get through that > album once due to the cheeze factor. Is this one better? > > ~Chris > >

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    Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 17:17:34 +0200 From: Richard <karies@wxs.nl> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Metropolis 2000: Scenes from New York Message-ID: <3AF1768E.7D3956F0@wxs.nl>

    I just posted a full review of the DVD (with spoilers, so don't even check it out if you don't want to be, um, spoiled) in Metal-E-Zine. It's in the music section at http://www.metal-e-zine.com. -- \=------------ Richard Karsmakers -- k@rsmakers.com ------------=/ | P.O. Box 67, NL-3500 AB, Utrecht - The Netherlands | /===------------------ http://www.42nd.net -------------------===\

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    Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 17:19:05 +0200 From: Richard <karies@wxs.nl> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DVD Easter Eggs (I guess you might think this needs a SPOILER ALERT) Message-ID: <3AF176E9.4C62A748@wxs.nl>

    Hi guys,

    I have the DVD now and I am wondering how many easter egg kindof hidden things there are. I found one (keywords: hypnotist acting), and I wonder if there's more. I seem to miss some of the 190 total minutes. -- \=------------ Richard Karsmakers -- k@rsmakers.com ------------=/ | Gwar FUQ; Shred NetRing; Fear of God; UVK 2000; Wowbagger | | Metal-E-Zine; Twilight World; Plantiac; Detente; Strat Central | >----------------------------------------------------------------< | P.O. Box 67, NL-3500 AB, Utrecht - The Netherlands | /===------------------ http://www.42nd.net -------------------===\

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 13:46:07 -0700 (PDT) From: trevor hoit <trevorhoit@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: vinnie/jennifer Message-ID: <20010503204607.25532.qmail@web612.mail.yahoo.com>

    Gemm.com has the Jennifer Batten disc starting at $8.82 and the Vinnie Moorestarting at $6.95.Half.com has the Vinnie Moore starting at $5.98.

    You can get JB-ABB at batten.com for $15 (temp out of stock tho)I love half .com trevor

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    Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:48:49 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: dark mood Message-ID: <74ACE5A6CB89D3119E6F00609720274A04B33B88@ISDCRE00>

    I love listening to DT's AWAKE CD for the dark mood and aggressive atmosphere. It's all over that CD and I eat it up.

    JM

    > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Oates [SMTP:aspect-lists@tinagh.org] > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:07 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: FII etc. > > > At 06:14 AM 5/1/2001, you wrote: > >I guess it's that dark mood and atmosphere that's still missing from > >DT nowadays and that makes people listen to I&W for the gazillionth > >time. I wonder if it's lost with the departure of Kevin or if they > >can bring it back someday? (Guys, are you listening? ;-)) > > Well, from what I've heard so far (LTE 1 and 2, SFaM, Jordan's "Listen") I > > don't think Jordan has a dark, somber musical bone in his body. > Musically, > he's amazingly talented, but he seems a bit limited in his emotional > spectrum in terms of composition. > > ~Chris

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    Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 18:55:24 -0500 From: "Dark Majesty" <shadow_majesty@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: great last jam Message-ID: <F10q5Z3JjQWrBSXaD8z00010e03@hotmail.com>

    OK, I give up! Where on earth can I get a copy of StM or TLF, or any of those other non-album songs? Also, does anyone know where I can purchase the DT singles for Lie, Hollow Years, et cetera? I am very interested in buying all of DT's non-album material, but I don't want to buy any bootlegs, just the commercially available stuff.

    Thanks everyone,

    --96

    ><Would I have preferred Speak to Me over any of those last three? of course! I also would have liked to see To Live Forever(a PHENOMENAL song) replace The Silent Man.>< _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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