YTSEJAM Digest 6020
Today's Topics:
1) CDR question - NDTC
by Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
2) RE: CDR question - NDTC
by PWorrall@netscape.net (Pat Worrall)
3) Tales from ProgPower... (long)
by Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com>
4) RE: CDR question - NDTC
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
5) Re: CDR question - NDTC
by "AdmiralDave" <admdave@qis.net>
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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:38:33 -0600 (CST)
From: Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: CDR question - NDTC
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.31.0111122134290.17933-100000@ux12.cso.uiuc.edu>
Not being well-versed in CDRs, and having a CD burner on my computer, I
was wondering if anyone out there could give me some advice on what CDRs
are good as far as quality goes such as which brands are best). I had a
friend who made copies of CDs on a brand where there was a skipping sound
when played at higher volumes. I'm sure recording speed plays a role,
too. But I just want a brand where I can get the best value (sound
quality for not much money). Private e-mail is fine. Thanks!
Rob
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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:21:52 -0500
From: PWorrall@netscape.net (Pat Worrall)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: RE: CDR question - NDTC
Message-ID: <41A95A9E.17F4F330.007AC117@netscape.net>
memorex is good. I've never had any problems with any of their disks. there was one brand that I've had trouble with but It wasn't one that I bought so I don't remember what it was. I'd recommend Memorex though. I've never had any problems with them.
As far as the skipping sound, I really can't help you there. Possibly the burner but very likely the software.
-Pat
Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>Not being well-versed in CDRs, and having a CD burner on my computer, I
>was wondering if anyone out there could give me some advice on what CDRs
>are good as far as quality goes such as which brands are best). I had a
>friend who made copies of CDs on a brand where there was a skipping sound
>when played at higher volumes. I'm sure recording speed plays a role,
>too. But I just want a brand where I can get the best value (sound
>quality for not much money). Private e-mail is fine. Thanks!
>
>Rob
>
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:06:46 -0800 From: Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> To: fateswarning@yahoogroups.com, tbh@yahoogroups.com, teof@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Tales from ProgPower... (long) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011112195334.01fe9e20@pop-server.san.rr.com>
OK, just some thoughts on the ProgPower event this past weekend.
Thursday: Flight out, no problems, avoid "winning" the random search lottery. Meet up my friends Mary and Deb Seeger at the airport, wait a bit for Rich "Shred veins" Horner to complete his marathon distance jog from plane to Wendys. All of us catch the Marta (public trans. train) to the hotel, standing room only, and a good way to gain your sea legs... Split a gut laughing at Rich's many stories of sleep deprivation, alcohol consumption and guitar shredding. Made it downtown to the hotel (pretty close to the Marta and the venue). Cool. Check in (no problems, although the hotel did overbook, so some people lost rooms -- that sux big time). Quickly made our way to the free cocktail hour, met up with a few people including and a couple of the guys from Evergrey (we would tend to find these guys just about anywhere within arm's distance of alcohol, throughout the event. Very cool guys too). After some cocktail lubrication, it was time to head over to the pre-show party at the Cotton Club. Took the Marta part way there and wandered around a bit before finally finding the club. Not too much memorable here, other than meeting up with lots of cool people from the internet and a couple of the guys from Symphony X. I seem to remember a couple of mediocre local nu-metal (or whatever you want to call it) bands playing (someone referred to it as "Passing a kidney stone fest" ;-)... After some point I think the drinks really started kicking in and I remember trying for quite some time trying to get back to the hotel (two cabs, first cab went to the wrong hotel, and plenty of walking through Atlanta at 2am or so). Back at the hotel only to find plenty of people still up and partying, so why not... a bunch came back over to the soon to be infamous Rm303 and stayed up until 3 or 4 laughing our asses off.
Friday: Recovered mostly from Thursday night (sleeping in until about noon helps), met up with a bunch of TEoF listers (Matthew, JW, Jeffro, Kostas -- all very cool people). And in some order had a few beers, searched for food, assaulted an uncooperative ATM (with a screen covered in a questionable substance), avoided the pockets of "Atlanta-ass-air" (those who walked around the town probably remember being assaulted by this fragrance) and headed over to the venue to grab the coveted "gold badges". Whew... Busy day, especially since it just began a couple of hours earlier. Show info now-- The venue was very cool, it was great to have this type of festival in such a professional establishment. Lots of vendors selling CDs and such. I am sure plenty of people will probably give detailed reviews of the shows, so I'll just give my quick one liners. Balance of Power: Not bad, enjoyed watching them, but nothing really made me want to rush out and buy their album. Nightingale: Wasn't familiar with these guys and didn't think much about the first couple of songs, went out to inspect the CDs for sale and mingle a bit. Angel Dust: Pretty good, very energetic and loud, but I wasn't into them too much... Dime-bag Darrell Jr. on guitar was funny to watch as it looked like he was trying to pass a brick or two. Ark: I was looking forward to seeing these guys, and the stuff was OK (I should give the CD a spin or two), a few technical problems and that corpse-paint the singer was wearing has to go. ;-) Symphony X: Kicked some major ass, the larger stage gave Russell a chance to run around more (and that he did), great show, nuff said. After show (promptly lead out of the venue by security at 2am) and back to the hotel, no food could be found anywhere and people were dying (well, at least mildly suffering). So a lovely stroll over to a gas station at 3am or so for some Pizza HotPockets(I guess they didn't kill Mary like the priest in Operation:Mindcrime, but I didn't take any chances) and popcorn (Smartfood rules, but we found out it really doesn't make you THAT much smarter after all. Crash now, sleep, needed, muchly...
Saturday: Up around 10:30am or so, gotta go to the TEoF meet and greet luncheon with Symphony X (organized and financed by Jax who rules verily). Had a good time meeting a ton of cool people and meeting the guys in SX. I am sure Russell really appreciated all that LOUD clapping and hooting once he finally made it down... Gee, was it bright in there for him? Shades on and all... hehe... Also, got to see Rich do his death metal band poses to the enjoyment of a few onlookers. After that it was time to run back to the gas station to stock up on supplies for after show festivities, grab some food, and head to the venue for the second round of musical mayhem. Show Info-- Superior: So glad to see these guys finally. They ruled. period. Spiral Architect: Very cool set, I'm still not totally into their album, but it was cool to see them pull this stuff off live. These guys definitely know how to play. Steel Prophet: Pretty 80s sounding straight ahead metal, very energetic, but I wasn't really into them enough to stand through a whole set... went out to take a breather. I think it was at this point I talked to Martin and Michael Muller from Superior. Ultra nice guys and so, so appreciative of the fans. Great guys. Evergrey: I really like their new album, and they kicked major ass this night. Check these guys out. Kamelot: Great show, I like Kahn but am not super enthralled by Kamelot's stuff (I liek it fine, but I still miss Conception). Highlight, Kahn announcing the after party in Rm303... Oh boy, there might be a crowd now... ;-) Rm303...well, yes quite a crowd did show up, including many members of the various bands... Quite the experience. Rick (singer from Steel Prophet) was insane the whole night. Rich Horner almost had a full time job of capturing him on video (mock interviews with the singer from Spiral Architect, he likes "stuff", Marilyn Manson impersonations, past life discussions, etc. -- crazy). It would take volumes to write about this whole evening, so you'll just have to buy the video when it comes out <grin>. Suffice it to say, the party really ended about 6am or so (except for SA's singer who needed some extra nap time on the couch), a bunch of us went down for a little free grub in the hotel and back up to boot the "couch guest" after much prodding and hilarity... That guy is too funny. Quick clean up of sorts (no major damage done -- no harm to foul), check out and make out way to the airport (fatigue setting in now), long lines in security only compound the problem. Board plane, sleep a bit here and there, but not much. Get home and crash for several hours (sure glad I took Monday off of work too!)
Well, that about scratches the surface of a great few days... Cheers to all the great people I met (or met again) at the show...
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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:10:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: CDR question - NDTC Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.33.0111130551570.18288-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>
On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Pat Worrall wrote:
> memorex is good. I've never had any problems with any of theirs. > > As far as the skipping sound, I really can't help you there. Possibly the burner but very likely the software. >
> Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> wrote: > > >Not being well-versed in CDRs, and having a CD burner on my computer, I > >was wondering if anyone out there could give me some advice on what CDRs > >are good as far as quality goes such as which brands are best). I had a > >friend who made copies of CDs on a brand where there was a skipping sound > >when played at higher volumes. I'm sure recording speed plays a role, > >too. But I just want a brand where I can get the best value (sound > >quality for not much money). Private e-mail is fine. Thanks! > > > >Rob
rob, i can tell you that you're probably going to pretty safe with most major name brands. however, i have to agree that out of all the ones that i've used, i find myself going back to memorex as well. i've NEVER had a problem with them, plus they always seem to have the best offer for the $$$ spent. check your nearest Target, Wal-mart, Kmart, etc.
and as far as that skipping noise you mentioned is concerned, it very well could be as pat mentioned above: a problem with the burner or the software, but it's probably more likely that you were listening to a cd that had been burned from mp3's. because the audio compression on mp3's is far from flawless, if you are listening on ANY sound system that actually plays music, you'll hear popping noises to various degrees if you have the volume turned up anywhere beyond slightly loud. i would put my money on that being the culprit behind the poor audio quality, unless it was done on a real P.O.S. burner.
the moral behind the story? go out to the store, purchase your memorex cdr's, and for the best sound quality, always pre-record (for tracks ripped from an existing cd) or convert (for existing mp3's) your audio tracks to wave files, then burn THOSE tracks straight from the 'puter to your cdr. hope all this babble was at least slightly informative. happy burning. peace, eric
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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:23:33 -0500 From: "AdmiralDave" <admdave@qis.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: CDR question - NDTC Message-ID: <00c701c16c70$5c751b00$0101a8c0@first>
I've always used Memorex's 700 MB CDRs and I've never had a problem with them.
Keep It Spooky
-AdmiralDave (admdave@qis.net)
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