YTSEJAM Digest 6103
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Do we WANT DT on MTV?
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
2) in agreement
by jewels737@aol.com
3) RE: DT: the ultimate rip-off artists
by David or Tammy Landis <tdlandis@earthlink.net>
4) Re: Classic Rock/DTin Oz
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
5) enjoying melodies, Superior trailer
by "Alexandra O'Connell" <nocalc@yahoo.com>
6) new superior
by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
7) Re: enjoying melodies, Superior trailer
by "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com>
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Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 04:02:54 +0000 (UTC)
From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Do we WANT DT on MTV?
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.33.0202050401100.752-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 LaxBoy329@aol.com wrote:
> i have seen them play Rush videos every so often on that show on vh1
yup, The Rock Show. saving graces can be found during that show to
provide refreshment from the majority-based modern day mindless B.S.
that's on the "regular" rotation.
-eric
-- "The least important things in life seem to get the most appreciation. The most important things in life don't seem to get enough."-me
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Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 23:51:05 EST From: jewels737@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: in agreement Message-ID: <ae.21d9c916.2990beb9@aol.com>
IIia, I totally agree with you. That's what I was trying to say before. All variations of music will have similarities. If only people will understand this. For example...Just because a DT song has the same tempo as Stairway to Heaven, and they use the world "and" and you know what? Hotel California uses that word too...oh my... They're DT...and they rock...and they're unique...even if they get their INSPIRATION from other musicians. Those other musicians are great too. They're not copying...inspiration is not copying. I'm glad others feel the way I do. Because I love DT because they are pure Progressive rock...at it's finest. And this cd does not sound like everything else. Although I'm glad that it gets good reviews from people who normally trash this kind of music-which is better than all their crap anyway.
Julie
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Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 23:38:38 -0600 From: David or Tammy Landis <tdlandis@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: RE: DT: the ultimate rip-off artists Message-ID: <3C5F6FDE.4090504@earthlink.net>
Funny. But when a song sounds exactly like another popular song on the radio, and every time you hear it you start singing TOOL.... You think they'd say, OK, let's change this. ---
Man these guys are totally unoriginal. They use the same damn 12 notes everyone else uses. How pathetic is that?
And they use the same instruments. I mean, guitar, bass, drums, keyboards, and vocals. That's been done to death already...
If they were really great, they'd be inventing new instruments for their music, which would use all new notes. I mean, they're just ripping everybody off right now.
If they can't invent new instruments, at the very least, they should make their own instruments and amps. Get this - you or I could buy the exact keyboard Jordan uses! Is that ridiculous? If he's such a keyboard wiz, why doesn't he build his own? And I hear some company named Yamaha builds Myung's basses. How very unoriginal.
It's no wonder you all think their songs sound like someone else. They're pathetic...
Paul
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Date: 05 Feb 2002 11:34:54 +0000 From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Classic Rock/DTin Oz Message-ID: <86ofj4uppd.fsf@daffy.picsel.com>
Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com> writes:
> I must sound completely ignorant... but how would one go about finding > this interview?
Buy the magazine in which it is published! Classic Rock, available from <http://www.futurenet.com/>. I highly recommend this magazine; it's the only real English-language newstand rock magazine aimed at the more "mature" audience, and it's quite open-minded about the kinds of music it covers. It ain't shy of featuring Dream Theater, anyway. :-)
-- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:45:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Alexandra O'Connell" <nocalc@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: enjoying melodies, Superior trailer Message-ID: <20020205174541.78930.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com>
Hey!
>What I'm trying to say here is, let's label Dream >Theater as Dream Theater, and not by labels of songs >that came before them.
You make a very good point. And I agree. However, even without the possible "rippoff?" aspect of these kinds of discussions, at some point there is going to be discussion of similarities, at least on this list. It's a grey zone, unfortunately, that can stray into what you would prefer to avoid.
I personally can't comment on any of the similarities, because I still don't own the album. *gulp*
And Bernd: thanks for posting the link to that trailer. I really enjoyed it. And I really wanted to see/hear more! I suppose that's the number one quality of a successful trailer/tease. I'm definitely looking forward to the new album. Good stuff happening in March (that and Vanden Plas).
chiggity-chillin', Alex
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Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:09:41 -0800 From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: new superior Message-ID: <00be01c1ae70$4825ede0$3d44e40c@attbi.com>
>From: Bernd.Basmer@t-online.de (Bernd Basmer) >The trailer for our new album ULTIMA RATIO is online! You can have >a look at it here: http://www.ultimaratio2002.de/
Didn't we learn the answer to that question on 9/11?
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Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 13:41:36 -0500 From: "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: enjoying melodies, Superior trailer Message-ID: <003301c1ae74$be47cb20$0300005a@kezp3800>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandra O'Connell" <nocalc@yahoo.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:57 PM Subject: enjoying melodies, Superior trailer
> Hey!
> > I personally can't comment on any of the similarities, > because I still don't own the album. *gulp*
Shame Shame Shame
> > And Bernd: thanks for posting the link to that > trailer. I really enjoyed it. And I really wanted to > see/hear more! I suppose that's the number one > quality of a successful trailer/tease. I'm definitely > looking forward to the new album.
I am SOOOO looking forward to this. The 2 songs they did at PP2.0 were killer, imo.
>Good stuff > happening in March (that and Vanden Plas).
I just got the VP in the mail 5 minutes ago. Can't wait to put it on(I probably WILL wait until after the Don and Mike Show, though....hehe).
> > chiggity-chillin', > Alex
typitty-typin', Kez
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