YTSEJAM Digest 6086
Today's Topics:
1) Re: DT/Rush summer tour...
by "Zachary Gemmill" <Zachary.Gemmill@nsc.com>
2) Re: ticket prices
by "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com>
3) mpls pre-show party
by "segue mike" <jp62693@hotmail.com>
4) BB King Ticket
by "mikE emerson" <cthulhu@cybernex.net>
5) Ticket Prices (Ticketmaster)
by "Dr. Scott Mosher" <ninja@mindspring.com>
6) re: the battle against copy protection
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
7) DVD Audio to CD-R?
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
8) Re: Ticket Prices (Ticketmaster)
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
9) RE: DT at #2
by "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
10) Re[2]: DT at #2
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
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Date: 18 Jan 2002 13:08:33 -0800
From: "Zachary Gemmill" <Zachary.Gemmill@nsc.com>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: DT/Rush summer tour...
Message-ID: <
>Hahaha! I don't know about that, it would seem Mike P. would have to
>come to terms with Neil Peart's comments (which were seemingly out of
>character for him) regarding the 'bar band' Rush Tribute CD a few years
>back.
He was not too far off. I thought Working man wasn't that great a tribute.
>Maybe DT and FW at some point!
As long as FW leaves their new stuff at home.
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:18:14 -0500
From: "Kez" <kez@stickdog.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: ticket prices
Message-ID: <001701c1a065$a4cca2a0$0300005a@kezp3800>
----- Original Message -----
From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: ticket prices
> I paid a flat $27 for mine by going to the 930 Club's ticket window ;)
>
> joe
>
>
Smartass city dwellers......... ;)
I'll be seeing you there.
Kez
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:12:10 +0000
From: "segue mike" <jp62693@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: mpls pre-show party
Message-ID: <F160ClPOpsUnbMvLmPt0000eb3d@hotmail.com>
I am setting up a pre-show party at The Rock Bottom Brewery,
next door to the Orpheum. I will decide on a time after the
tickets go on sale and I have a show start time.
Please email me privately and I will add you to my list for
future updates.
I will email the band and see if any of them are interested in
making an appearance.
Thanx
Mike K
dodo lurker
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:55:08 -0500
From: "mikE emerson" <cthulhu@cybernex.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: BB King Ticket
Message-ID: <009a01c1a073$2dcedf20$6401a8c0@mje002>
i have an extra ticket for the show on saturday, january 19th (i've already
posted this on the forum on mp's site, but i'm just trying to get this
across to more people, since the show's TOMORROW!!!!
(yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)...)
e-mail me asap if you're interested...
mikE emerson
cthulhu@cybernex.net
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 18:11:53 -0500
From: "Dr. Scott Mosher" <ninja@mindspring.com>
Subject: Ticket Prices (Ticketmaster)
Message-ID: <3C48ABB2.F66FE7C4@mindspring.com>
(Rant mode on)
We, the citizens (fans, supporters, fellow artistes, aficionados, connoisseurs, whatever the term of the day may be), are inundated with ridiculous (and rising) ambiguous fee's and surcharges from TICKETMASTER, which is one reason I don't attend many major events any longer. I don't want to support a
monopolized industry that is robbing from the citizens to feed their growing coffers, and offering nothing in return but a 'ticket'. Exchanges, refunds, and good customer service (if you can even get THAT far) are virtually unheard of, so, like with computer software, we pay inflated prices,
rationalized by 'customer services improvements' which is a load of rubbish, and the quality and quantity of service dwindles to what amounts to acceptable legal extortion. Look at the breakdown of prices that Kez posted: Verilly, almost 36% of a ticketprice is abstract corporate bullshit price
inflation without rhyme or reason, as far as I know. Where are the Deities of Justice and Compassion, I ask thee?
(Rant mode off)
Wish I was going to see DT. I don't have many options, they aren't even playing close to the Carolina's.
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:12:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: the battle against copy protection
Message-ID: <20020119001222.24764.qmail@web12107.mail.yahoo.com>
Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com> wrote:
>Go Philips!
>http://news.com.com/2100-1023-817937.html
Great link! Gotta love this part, they're building in
"planned obsolescence" too:
"Even when the protection technology works as
intended, Wirtz said that normal wear and tear could
eventually overwhelm the error correction for the
altered discs, causing them to become unreadable
within a few years. "
Lot's of other good stories there too:
Returing cd's can defeat them:
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-276036.html?legacy=cnet
Name 'em and shame 'em:
http://www.fatchucks.com/corruptcds/
As for dvd's that can't be recorded onto VHS, it looks
like AOL Time Warner has taken the lead and made all
of their dvd's unrecordable. Unfortunately, that
includes the dvd of DT/SFaM...
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:19:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: DVD Audio to CD-R?
Message-ID: <20020119001927.84448.qmail@web12104.mail.yahoo.com>
What software is commonly used to turn DVD audio into
WAV files? I assume that's what will be required for
me to take songs off of my dvd's and put them onto a
cd-r. Or have they figured out how to stop us from
doing that too?
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:19:29 -0600
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mauricio_Mart=EDnez <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Ticket Prices (Ticketmaster)
Message-ID: <023b01c1a08f$b9fcbb40$055af094@compaq.net.mx>
Right on dude. G3 was comin' to my town, but changed their mind after the
9/11 events that followed. Soooo, TicketBastich ripped me and my buddies
off, with about $5 of so called service when we went in for the refund.
Now, DT is comin', and we had the chance to buy the tickets without the TM
surcharge if we bought them at the venue, but, unfortunately those ticket
sales go off until february i think, while the TM tickets already are in
sale. The venue is kinda small (1500-2000 capacity), so we were in a way
obligated to buy a ticket now off TM if we wanted to make sure that we go to
the concert, 4cause i don't think that there'll be any tickets left by
february.
Mauricio
PS. The surcharge for this ticket is actually almost half of that ticket for
the G3 concert. But then, the G3 gig was going to take place in a way bigger
venue.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Scott Mosher" <ninja@mindspring.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 5:18 PM
Subject: Ticket Prices (Ticketmaster)
> (Rant mode on)
>
> We, the citizens (fans, supporters, fellow artistes, aficionados,
connoisseurs, whatever the term of the day may be), are inundated with
ridiculous (and rising) ambiguous fee's and surcharges from TICKETMASTER,
which is one reason I don't attend many major events any longer. I don't
want to support a
> monopolized industry that is robbing from the citizens to feed their
growing coffers, and offering nothing in return but a 'ticket'. Exchanges,
refunds, and good customer service (if you can even get THAT far) are
virtually unheard of, so, like with computer software, we pay inflated
prices,
> rationalized by 'customer services improvements' which is a load of
rubbish, and the quality and quantity of service dwindles to what amounts to
acceptable legal extortion. Look at the breakdown of prices that Kez posted:
Verilly, almost 36% of a ticketprice is abstract corporate bullshit price
> inflation without rhyme or reason, as far as I know. Where are the Deities
of Justice and Compassion, I ask thee?
>
> (Rant mode off)
>
> Wish I was going to see DT. I don't have many options, they aren't even
playing close to the Carolina's.
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Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:52:53 +1100
From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: DT at #2
Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMAEFECAAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:42:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: Adam Perkowsky <perk1994@yahoo.com>
>
> Wow, No. 2. What an accomplishment. All this shows me
> is that there are too many Dream Theater fans who
> don't get out of the house much. Here's a thought. On
> Jan. 29, venture out of the house and buy the CD at a
> record store! :)
What this shows me is that there are lots of people who don't trust their
local CD shops to supply the disc on the release date or close enough to. I
thought this problem wasn't mine with Utopia Records here in Sydney. They
had SFaM ready and waiting for the release date to tick over.
However, from my calls to them, they refuse to give a date when they'll have
it, and they only say "early february". This might just be store policy to
not give exact dates, but it still makes me paranoid. However, I will pin my
hopes on Utopia... so they'd better come good!
Cheers,
Niall
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Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 18:03:37 +1100
From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
To: Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re[2]: DT at #2
Message-ID: <1446162726.20020119180337@optushome.com.au>
Hello Niall,
NC> However, from my calls to them, they refuse to give a date when they'll have
NC> it, and they only say "early february". This might just be store policy to
NC> not give exact dates, but it still makes me paranoid. However, I will pin my
NC> hopes on Utopia... so they'd better come good!
I asked a guy at Utopia yesterday and he told me they would have it in
stock on Jan 24th, both normal jewel case version and digipak. He told
me they would have 100 or so copies.
-- Best regards, Graham mailto:gjboyle@optushome.com.au------------------------------
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