YTSEJAM Digest 6088
Today's Topics:
1) 6DoIT from Italy
by "Francesco Racioppa" <racioppa@tin.it>
2) TicketBastard: a tepid defense
by "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net>
3) Re: Green Carnation
by WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
4) NYC show
by "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net>
5) CD Protection.
by Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
6) Re: Various odd's & Ends. To what end I don't know...
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
7) Re[2]: Green Carnation
by Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au>
8) GOT IT!
by "Adrian Longley" <adrian@adrianlongley.com>
9) Re: GOT IT!
by Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com>
10) wierd strato message
by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
11) 6DoIT - I now own a copy!!!
by fredrik@kilander.com
12) Re: wierd strato message
by WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
13) Re: wierd strato message
by "Christopher J. Cerminara" <ccerminara@yahoo.com>
14) RE: weird strato message
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:18:37 +0100
From: "Francesco Racioppa" <racioppa@tin.it>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: 6DoIT from Italy
Message-ID: <001e01c1a208$d1a25780$35291b97@z9m1u7>
Hi man,
i've bought my copy of 6DoIT Friday, and i can't stop ear it!The album is a
masterpiece with an epic epic!!:-)
I can't wait to see DT in Italy in february!
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Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:34:48 -0500
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: TicketBastard: a tepid defense
Message-ID: <3C4B8C58.393B@atl.mediaone.net>
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> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 18:11:53 -0500
> From: "Dr. Scott Mosher" <ninja@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Ticket Prices (Ticketmaster)
>
> (Rant mode on)
>
> We, the citizens (fans, supporters, fellow artistes, aficionados, connoisseurs, whatever the term of the day may be), are inundated with ridiculous (and rising) ambiguous fee's and surcharges from TICKETMASTER, which is one reason I don't attend many major events any longer. I don't want to support a
> monopolized industry that is robbing from the citizens to feed their growing coffers, and offering nothing in return but a 'ticket'.
Err, this isn't quite true. For out-of-town ticket-buyers, Ticketmaster
offers universal access to concert tickets nationwide via their website,
obviating the need for a long-distance call to one of the regional TM
outlets to get a ticket, assuming you can get the number in time....
When you add their tour-date listings to www.pollstar.com's, you get a
pretty accurate look at all the dates on a tour, so in a sense TM's
website is itself a 'service.'
> Exchanges, refunds, and good customer service (if you can even get THAT far) are virtually unheard of, so, like with computer software, we pay inflated prices,
> rationalized by 'customer services improvements' which is a load of rubbish, and the quality and quantity of service dwindles to what amounts to acceptable legal extortion.
I had a problem with a ticket that never arrived in the mail from
Ticketmaster, which was resolved at BB King's. I've gotten refunds from
them too, for good cause, like show-cancellations.
> Look at the breakdown of prices that Kez posted: Verilly, almost 36% of a ticketprice is abstract corporate bullshit price
> inflation without rhyme or reason, as far as I know. Where are the Deities of Justice and Compassion, I ask thee?
They're waiting for tickets to a show, in line at the box-office. Since
they're deities, they aren't feeling the cold. Are you so lucky?
I'm the first to say that TM's "service charges" are about 20-30% too
high. But saying that ALL you get from them is a ticket is silly.
Their website, keeping it current, etc., costs money. I don't begrudge
them -some- money so they can stay in business.
-- +--- Paul W. Cashman, pellaz@atl.mediaone.net ICQ 4151223 ----+ | Website: http://people.atl.mediaone.net/pellaz/ | | or www.paulcashman.com :) | +---------------------------------------------------------------+------------------------------
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:34:51 -0500 From: WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Green Carnation Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20020120222719.018935e0@cs.millersville.edu>
>Just thought I would ring in with a new band I discovered today. Green >Carnation-Light of Day, Day of Darkness.
I second this recommendation. Light of Day, Day of Darkness is a killer album. If you're a fan of bands like Amorphis or Opeth, you are almost guaranteed to dig this album.
Speaking of Amorphis, Shape of Despair, featuring Amorphis' Pasi Koskinen, has a new album coming out. Outstanding atmospheric doom.
Brian
============================================= WB Henderson [wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu] Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio, 10-11.30pm Wed): http://ahp.musicpage.com/ Metalmaton Grit Patrol (metal-radio, 11.30pm-1am Wed): http://www.wixq.com/metal/MGP/ WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com/ WIXQ-METAL: http://www.wixq.com/metal/ =============================================
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Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:51:42 -0500 From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@atl.mediaone.net> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: NYC show Message-ID: <3C4B904E.3FCB@atl.mediaone.net>
Whew, what a fun time and a great (if far from perfect) show! But who cares, I was there to see old friends, and meet new ones, too. :)
> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 12:01:34 GMT > From: "Emre Topuzoglu" <emret@ispro.net.tr> > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Videos of NYC Turbulence ! > Message-ID: <200201201201.g0KC1Yw02302@finland.ispro.net.tr> > > [...] > BTW, It was great to meet some of you ytsejammers from here !
Emre was one I hadn't met in person yet. Great to finally meet you in person, man!
Pics from the show, as well as some tourist shots and some after-show zaniness, should now be posted in: http://www.dragoncon.org/private/dt-0102/
They get better as you go, since the crowd worked me closer and closer to the front, and I decided to start using my flash since everyone else was..... :)
The after-show pics are mostly MP.com regulars. I'm proud to say that a cheer went up for our own Skadz as well, after the show. :)
The setlist was posted (within 45 min.) on the MP.com Forum -- quite a few surprises, some happy returns and a few lamented omissions, but that's okay -- it's not like it was a 'real' show, after all, just a rehearsal. :)
-- +--- Paul W. Cashman, pellaz@atl.mediaone.net ICQ 4151223 ----+ | Website: http://people.atl.mediaone.net/pellaz/ | | or www.paulcashman.com :) | +---------------------------------------------------------------+
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Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:48:59 -0800 (PST) From: Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: CD Protection. Message-ID: <20020121044859.85941.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com>
This is an interesting article, for those following this whole development. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/23736.html.
Got my tix to the 9:30 show this morning, from ticketmaster no less. Yes, I paid an extra 5 bucks, but it's getting delivered to my door. Who else is going to that show? Hope to see some of you all there.
- Ilia. http://www.44lbs.com
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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 05:59:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Various odd's & Ends. To what end I don't know... Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.33.0201210548001.8749-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Dr. Scott Mosher wrote:
> Anyhow, just my opinion. One of the best FW songs ever is on Disconnected, "One". Incredibly melodic, heavy, yet still maintains the esssence of Fates Warning. >
i must say that i agree with your choice of FW songs, only to be possibly ousted by the 6th track from the same disc. the song "Still Remains" is an epic of a song, and is a true masterpiece IMHO. one of the most melodic and powerful FW moments is in this song, during the section where the lyric structure suddenly changes. i believe it's a good 10 or 11 minutes into the song, but i'm not exactly sure. if you own the disc (meaning liners, lyrics, etc..), wait for the "Where is the way / where is direction / the ever open arms / of over protection." section of the song. just see if i've led you wrong. i think not... :)
oh yeah, & by the way scott, i've had your cd for several months now, and have been absolutely blown away by it!! i know that i promised you an in depth review a while back, but life got in the way. so, never fear, the review is on it's way shortly! keep rocking.
-eric
-- "The least important things in life seem to get the most appreciation. The most important things in life don't seem to get enough."
-me
drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org IM screename - Ryften13 SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:26:13 +1100 From: Graham Boyle <gjboyle@optushome.com.au> To: WB Henderson <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re[2]: Green Carnation Message-ID: <392530784.20020121172613@optushome.com.au>
WH> I second this recommendation. Light of Day, Day of Darkness is a killer WH> album. If you're a fan of bands like Amorphis or Opeth, you are almost WH> guaranteed to dig this album.
You can add Pain Of Salvation and a host of others, it's got a lot of variety, for an album with 1 60 minute song :) I can highly recommend it.
WH> Speaking of Amorphis, Shape of Despair, featuring Amorphis' Pasi Koskinen, WH> has a new album coming out. Outstanding atmospheric doom.
Yes indeed, not for the faint hearted either, Pasi vocals are almost scarey on this album. You should also check out Pasi side project band, Ajattara, Pasi not only sings, but plays guitar and keys.
-- Best regards, Graham mailto:gjboyle@optushome.com.au
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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:53:10 -0000 From: "Adrian Longley" <adrian@adrianlongley.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: GOT IT! Message-ID: <005001c1a261$72da4880$453cc9c2@pc065882>
For once I'm glad to be in the UK.
Tower Records, Picadilly Circus at 8:43 AM (24.99 GBP)
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Date: 21 Jan 2002 14:39:20 +0000 From: Graham Borland <graham@picsel.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: GOT IT! Message-ID: <86adv7ydif.fsf@daffy.picsel.com>
"Adrian Longley" <adrian@adrianlongley.com> writes:
> For once I'm glad to be in the UK.
Me too. I paid a stupidly high price at the nearest HMV, but I don't care. I would have paid double! -- Graham Borland Picsel Technologies Ltd graham@picsel.com Glasgow, Scotland
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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:14:59 -0800 From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: wierd strato message Message-ID: <007b01c1a2b8$4d25f560$3d44e40c@attbi.com>
Anyone else get this weird post from a "Stefano" with an .exe attached? I didn't open it for fear of a virus......
"Staffan did not want to play in Stratovarius anymore and he left one week before the band was supposed to play one gig in Aalborg, Denmark. Tuomo Lassila phoned to Timo Tolkki and asked him to join the band. Timo learned all the songs from cassette tape and after a few rehearsals the band travelled to Denmark."
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Date: 21 Jan 2002 20:45:28 -0000 From: fredrik@kilander.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: 6DoIT - I now own a copy!!! Message-ID: <20020121204528.1666.qmail@www2.nameplanet.com>
YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
Bought Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence today. I think I'll just lock myself up with it on repeat until the show on the 29th...
-- Get your firstname@lastname email at http://Nameplanet.com/?su
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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:45:10 -0500 From: WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: wierd strato message Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20020121154419.0185b658@cs.millersville.edu>
>Anyone else get this weird post from a "Stefano" with an .exe attached? >I didn't open it for fear of a virus......
Yep. Something .bat, which Norton promptly threw a fit over. Mine wasn't in English, however.
Brian
============================================= WB Henderson [wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu] Automaton Hit Parade (prog-radio, 10-11.30pm Wed): http://ahp.musicpage.com/ Metalmaton Grit Patrol (metal-radio, 11.30pm-1am Wed): http://www.wixq.com/metal/MGP/ WIXQ ON-LINE: http://www.wixq.com/ WIXQ-METAL: http://www.wixq.com/metal/ =============================================
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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:49:29 -0500 From: "Christopher J. Cerminara" <ccerminara@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: wierd strato message Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020121154848.00a5d210@pop.mail.yahoo.com>
At 12:31 PM 1/21/02 -0800, you wrote:
>Anyone else get this weird post from a "Stefano" with an .exe attached? >I didn't open it for fear of a virus......
Yep. I didn't open it either, so I have no idea what it is.
Chris
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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:07:49 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: weird strato message Message-ID: <3CEB2BD450223743A4895C0D0C5DFC3A733BB0@haxlcsechp0.healthaxis.dom>
It did have a virus. Don't open it. Norton AntiVirus caught it.
JM
> -----Original Message----- > From: TREVOR HOIT [SMTP:trevorhoit@attbi.com] > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 2:31 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: wierd strato message > > > > Anyone else get this weird post from a "Stefano" with an .exe attached? > I didn't open it for fear of a virus...... > >
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