YTSEJAM digest 6189

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Thu May 02 2002 - 19:00:46 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Zero tolerance of PULL ME UNDER?
     by "Scott (Virtuality)" <ninja@mindspring.com>
      2) Re: The song we all love to... love?
     by Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
      3) DT best of CD
     by WoodyTJ34@aol.com
      4) Space-Dye Vest demo version history
     by "Rob P" <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com>
      5) RUSH and DREAM THEATER
     by David or Tammy Landis <tdlandis@earthlink.net>
      6) Re: DT best of CD
     by Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>

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    Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:38:33 -0400
    From: "Scott (Virtuality)" <ninja@mindspring.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Zero tolerance of PULL ME UNDER?
    Message-ID: <3CD07C69.2891E439@mindspring.com>

    Well, that's rather interesting, I don't hear it on the radio much, nor do I think it's
    a BAD song. Now if you wanted to pose the same bantering about 'Anna Lee' or 'Silent
    Man', I would THINK about it, but it's just too much trouble to go protesting songs by
    a great band. Perhaps we need to take this 'veritable musicial cyberspace sit-in' to
    the Nirvana or O-Town board! lol...

    Just my .02" out of a hard-earned $1.

    - Your Friendly Neighborhood Allroundniceguy
    Scott Mosher - The VIRTUALITY CD
    http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality/

    "When I was younger I hated going to weddings...it seemed that all of
    the aunts and the grandmotherly types would come up to me, poke me in
    the ribs, and tell me, "You're next." They stopped that shit after I
    started doing the same thing to them at funerals."

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    Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 17:04:19 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: The song we all love to... love?
    Message-ID: <20020502000419.82100.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com>

    --- Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
    > overplayed?? certainly not on the radio, that's for sure.
    > i'd shite myself if i heard DT on the radio once again, the
    > last time being back in `93-`94 when pittsburgh had GOOD rock
    > radio. i think no one's supporting you simply because,
    > regardless of how many times you hear it, a good song is a
    > good song no matter what. you can get tired of any song after

    > too many repeated listenings.

    Didn't DT almost break up in events that followed the explosion
    of PMU as a pseudo-hit? It definitely grabbed more attention
    than any other DT song, for sure. I don't dislike it, it was
    actually the song that made me want to give DT a shot, way back
    when. I think the key to being able to listen to the song a
    bunch of times and not getting tired of it is not listening to
    it many times in a row. And if you're in the band, you can get
    tired of any song, since you have to learn it and practice it
    numerous times.

    What is it that people don't like about it, anyway? Does it
    just sound like something that, were it not hypothetical, could
    potentially suck? Is that even a viable reason?

    OK, I've now exhausted my need to comment on this whole PMU
    mess. Thanks for reading.

    Ilia

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    Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 21:40:23 EDT
    From: WoodyTJ34@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: DT best of CD
    Message-ID: <15d.d4a5c50.2a01f307@aol.com>

    I sent this to post last week & I don't think it went through. If it did,
    sorry for the duplicate post.

    I just put together a CD for one of my friends. I took most of my favorites
    but I focused on all the heavy tracks. The ones I picked were:
    1. The Glass Prison
    2. Strange Deja Vu
    3. Pull Me Under
    4. Burning My Soul
    5. Mirror
    6. Home
    7. The Test That Stumped Them All
    8. Lie
    9. Beyond This Life
    10. War Inside My Head
    I think it would be hard to come up with a true best of CD. Would you make
    it hard or soft? There is only on clear cut DT hit and that is PMU. The
    rest of the world could give two shits about anything this band puts out. On
    the other hand, DT's fans will buy anything they put out. I would love to
    see it come out, but I think this fan base is so diverse with their favorite
    songs that one cd would not be enough or would not cover the entire spectrum.

    I have recently gone through all the albums w/ James on vocals from front to
    back & put them in order from favorite to least favorite. I'll post it when
    I have the time. I think it would be interesting to Poll this. Someone with
    a ton of spare time on their hands could then put together, then, we could
    have a true list of the best of DT.
    See ya,
    Todd

    P.S. Could some on put the word "ytsejam" on the list & sound it out
    phonically? I am still puzzled on how to pronounce it to friends & family.

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    Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:27:03 -0400
    From: "Rob P" <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Space-Dye Vest demo version history
    Message-ID: <F7g8eBpx7OfKSSc8m8M00007ddd@hotmail.com>

    A little history...Kevin did 2 demos way back when. "Space Dye Vest" and
    "Blanket" were recorded at the same time along with a version of the Tori
    Amos song "Song For Eric". Kevin took Tori's version which is acapella
    (sp?) and added his own music. At that point, Kev was rather obsessed with
    Tori. Former jammer Jen Albert gave me a tape of all 3 songs that she got
    right from Kev back in late 1993. At the time I didn't think for a second
    that DT would do SDV. I don't think that was Kev's plan either!

    Rob

    >From: "HJ Rivera" <hrivera@crp.org>
    >Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    >Subject: RE: Re : Space-Dye Vest live
    >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 06:53:57 -0700 (PDT)
    >
    > >Actually DT did play Space-Dye Vest live... It's on the "Uncovered" boot
    > >from Ronnie Scotts.
    >
    >Nope. That is the demo version of S-DV that's on Uncovered. It has never
    >been played live.
    >
    >joe
    >

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    Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 00:48:03 -0500
    From: David or Tammy Landis <tdlandis@earthlink.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: RUSH and DREAM THEATER
    Message-ID: <3CD0D313.9070903@earthlink.net>

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    I brought up the idea of DT and Rush touring together a few weeks ago
    and now I found this message from Mike P. from the DT UACM Newsletter.
    Looks like they were hoping for this tour too!!!!!
    -david

      Mike Portnoy writes liner notes of Japanese version of new Rush CD
      (News : Mike Portnoy)

        Here is a message from Mike Portnoy:

         "RUSH

          I am honored to have been asked to write the liner notes
          for the Japanese version of their long-awaited, upcoming
          CD "Vapor Trails", so I have been listening to this since
          early last week....

          The new CD is excellent and it's great to have them back!

          If only they would take out an opener (cough*US*cough)
          on this tour.....

          MP"

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    Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 06:21:45 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: DT best of CD
    Message-ID: <20020502132145.7042.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com>

    --- WoodyTJ34@aol.com wrote:
    > I have recently gone through all the albums w/ James on vocals
    > from front to back & put them in order from favorite to least
    > favorite. I'll post it when I have the time. I think it
    > would be interesting to Poll this. Someone with a ton of
    > spare time on their hands could then put together, then, we
    > could have a true list of the best of DT.

    I'll run a poll, if anyone's interested. I set up an e-mail
    address, bestofdtpoll@dreamtheater.zzn.com. Here's what we're
    looking for:

    Part I: favorites.

    1. Favorite Dream Theater studio album?
    2. Favorite DT live album?
    3. Top 3 songs from WD&DU?
    4. Top 3 songs from I&W?
    5. Top 3 songs from Awake?
    6. Top 3 songs from FII?
    7. Top 3 tracks from SfaM?
    8. Top 3 tracks from 6DoiT?
    9. Top 3 live renditions?
    10. Favorite cover by DT?
    11. Least favorite studio album?
    12. Was ACoS a weak or a strong release for DT (extended
    commentary welcome)?
    13. Least favorite song from WD&DU?
    14. Least favorite song from I&W?
    15. Least favorite song from Awake?
    16. Least favorite song from FII?
    17. Least favorite song from SfaM?
    18. Least favorite song from 6DoiT?
    19. Least favorite live rendition?

    Part II: True/False

    1. DT should release a best-of compilation.
    2. DT will release a best-of compilation.
    3. PMU should be included on any best-of DT.
    4. PMU will be included if a best-of DT is ever released.
    5. SDV should be included on any best-of DT.
    6. SDV will be included if a best-of DT is ever released.
    7. WD&TU was superior to WD&DU.
    8. Any best-of DT compilation should only contain tracks with
    LaBrie on lead vocals.
    9. Any best-of DT compilation should only contain original DT
    material.

    On a scale from 1 to 5, rate how much you like PMU and SDV.
    1=hate it, 5=love it.

    Feel free to write in any comments regarding any of the
    question, if the response may be ambiguous. Again, the address
    is bestofdtpoll@dreamtheater.zzn.com.

    > P.S. Could some on put the word "ytsejam" on the list & sound
    > it out phonically? I am still puzzled on how to pronounce it
    > to friends & family.

    OK, and I recorded myself saying the word "majesty" and played
    it backwards. It sounds like "YIT-SE-JAM." I don't know if the
    original idea was the spelling or the pronounciation as well,
    but I was just curious.

    - Ilia.
    http://www.44lbs.com

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