YTSEJAM digest 6205

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Greg Howe
     by "Neil Evans" <progmtl@mindspring.com>
      2) Criss Angel / Angeldust - NY, NY
     by "Daniel J. Temmesfeld" <dtemm@yahoo.com>
      3) Re: Criss Angel / Angeldust - NY, NY
     by Craig Maloney <craig@ic.net>
      4) Re: Greg Howe
     by Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
      5) G3 show Greg Howe
     by "Mauricio Martinez" <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
      6) Re: Criss Angel / Angeldust - NY, NY
     by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
      7) Re: Circle of Dust / Celldweller / Criss Angel / Angeldust - NY, NY
     by "Daniel J. Temmesfeld" <dtemm@yahoo.com>
      8) Re: G3 show Greg Howe
     by Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
      9) Re: Circle of Dust / Celldweller / Criss Angel / Angeldust - NY, NY
     by Craig Maloney <craig@ic.net>
     10) Re: digest 6202
     by "Ambassador Nelaskon" <moc_liam@mail.com>

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    Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 14:26:09 -0400
    From: "Neil Evans" <progmtl@mindspring.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Greg Howe
    Message-ID: <005a01c1fe99$7c750620$f00df7a5@byteme>

    Ilia,

    I just picked up Parallax, Introspection, and Ascend. The first two are
    Howe-style jazz/fusion guitar fests. Ascend features Vitalij Kuprij on
    keyboard and has a more neo-classical style, which Howe admits was just a
    departure from his normal style in the liner notes (and a return to some of
    his influences). Ascend also features a killer cover of La Villa
    Strangiato.

    Greg Howe's self-titled debut album is also quite mindblowing - I'd
    recommend that to any guitar fan.

    cheers,
    -Neil.

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    Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 14:48:51 -0400
    From: "Daniel J. Temmesfeld" <dtemm@yahoo.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Criss Angel / Angeldust - NY, NY
    Message-ID: <000001c1fe9c$a907ab90$9c057fd8@dan>

    anybody seen the industrial music magic performance
    of Criss Angel (Angeldust) in the New York City
    area?

    any thoughts...?

    i'm thinking of going out to one...

    maybe,
    Dan

    np: criss angel - mindfreak

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    Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 15:30:18 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Craig Maloney <craig@ic.net>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Criss Angel / Angeldust - NY, NY
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0205181528100.15321-100000@ic.net>

    I'm more familiar with Clay (AKA Scott Albert, AKA Circle of
    Dust, AKA Clay Scott) I'd go see it if you can get the chance. Should be a
    good show).

    On Sat, 18 May 2002, Daniel J. Temmesfeld wrote:

    >
    > anybody seen the industrial music magic performance
    > of Criss Angel (Angeldust) in the New York City
    > area?
    >
    > any thoughts...?
    >
    > i'm thinking of going out to one...
    >
    > maybe,
    > Dan
    >
    > np: criss angel - mindfreak
    >
    > *here are 2 wonderful pages that I maintain*
    > VISIT - My Essential Music Favorites List:
    > http://www.dlm.net/gc/
    > VISIT - Pixie Princess Jewelry Studios at:
    > http://www.pixieprincess.com/
    >
    >

    Craig
    (craig@ic.net, http://ic.net/~craig)

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    Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 13:01:31 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Greg Howe
    Message-ID: <20020518200131.45075.qmail@web11306.mail.yahoo.com>

    Hyperacuity I think was his most experimental of all, I'd say.
    Along with a Stevie Wonder cover. I can't wait to hear his new
    one with Victor Wooten. Just the other day, I was talking to a
    friend of mine, and we thought that it'd be cool to see Greg
    Howe on the next G3 tour. I still think that'd be a great idea.

    - Ilia.

    > I just picked up Parallax, Introspection, and Ascend. The
    > first two are
    > Howe-style jazz/fusion guitar fests. Ascend features Vitalij
    > Kuprij on
    > keyboard and has a more neo-classical style, which Howe admits
    > was just a
    > departure from his normal style in the liner notes (and a
    > return to some of
    > his influences). Ascend also features a killer cover of La
    > Villa
    > Strangiato.
    >
    > Greg Howe's self-titled debut album is also quite mindblowing
    > - I'd
    > recommend that to any guitar fan.
    >
    > cheers,
    > -Neil.
    >
    >
    >

    ====
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       --- Wernher Von Braun

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    Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 16:07:09 -0500
    From: "Mauricio Martinez" <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: G3 show Greg Howe
    Message-ID: <00a001c1feaf$f9b7f8c0$b3a8f094@compaq.net.mx>

    G3 played here yesterday BTW. It was a great, lenghty show, but i thought it
    would have been a great idea to let Tony Macalpine join his g3 fellows on
    the stage for the final jam. Ok, so, there was sometimes very much guitar
    wankering going on, but i wanted to hear some fusion chops from tony.

    Plus, on the original g3, keneally, if i'm not mistaken, joined the jam, as
    well as bynoe (vai's bassist at the time), with Satch's band's as well.

    Virgil donati was a monster....i'll have to check his stuff out later. Hey,
    maye him and tony could've done some planet x. But it isn't their show
    anyway...

    Of the 3, i have to say that petrucci's stuff and show was the weakest,
    IMHO. Vai's song selection was cool, and Satch's was a little
    better.......it's just that i want to hear the old stuff, but they have to
    promote their newer stuff. But i think the old Petrucci instrumental songs
    (gemini, necronomicon, the cool prog song from Rock Disclipline...) were WAY
    better than his newer songs. These just bore me a little.

    Mauricio

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ilia" <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
    To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 3:13 PM
    Subject: Re: Greg Howe
    >
    > Hyperacuity I think was his most experimental of all, I'd say.
    > Along with a Stevie Wonder cover. I can't wait to hear his new
    > one with Victor Wooten. Just the other day, I was talking to a
    > friend of mine, and we thought that it'd be cool to see Greg
    > Howe on the next G3 tour. I still think that'd be a great idea.
    >
    > - Ilia.

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    Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 23:26:27 +0000 (UTC)
    From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Criss Angel / Angeldust - NY, NY
    Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0205182318410.18724-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>

    On Sat, 18 May 2002, Daniel J. Temmesfeld wrote:

    > anybody seen the industrial music magic performance
    > of Criss Angel (Angeldust) in the New York City
    > area?
    >
    whoa!!!! hold on a sec. i haven't heard the name Angeldust in a loooong
    time. the last i heard it mentioned was when Scott Albert, the driving
    force behind industrial-splendor Circle Of Dust was hanging up the towel
    with C.O.D. after 3 albums (all of which i have, and all are wonderful)
    and taking up a new project called Angeldust. then i never heard anything
    more about it. has he been doing music this whole time?? what info is
    there about it?? where can i find some??? i must know.

                                            -eric

    p.s.- for those out there who appreciate GOOD industrial, & know who i'm
    talking about when i say Circle Of Dust, then i would also recommend
    Argyle Park, Klank (more metal influence), and Passafist. there's one
    other left, but the name escapes me at the moment...... oh well...

    -- 
    "The least important things in life
        get the most appreciation.
     The most important things in life
        don't seem to get enough."
    

    -me

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    Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 20:51:40 -0400 From: "Daniel J. Temmesfeld" <dtemm@yahoo.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Circle of Dust / Celldweller / Criss Angel / Angeldust - NY, NY Message-ID: <000201c1fecf$57bd6580$8a057fd8@dan>

    Eric George wrote: >> anybody seen the industrial music magic >> performance of Criss Angel (Angeldust) >> in the New York City area? > > whoa!!!! hold on a sec. i haven't heard > the name Angeldust in a loooong time. the > last i heard it mentioned was when Scott > Albert, the driving force behind industrial- > splendor Circle Of Dust was hanging up the > towel with C.O.D. after 3 albums (all of > which i have, and all are wonderful) and > taking up a new project called Angeldust. then i never heard > anything more about it. has he been doing music this whole > time?? what info is there about it?? where can i find > some??? i must know.

    Klayton (Scott) is still doing *tons* of music. there are 4 Angeldust/Criss Angel CDs out now... his new project entitled Celldweller is about to put out a new CD... he's got tons of mp3's up at http://www.mp3.com/celldweller

    also... http://www.celldweller.com/ http://www.worldofillusion.com/

    Chatterbox was the other band that you were probably thinking of... Klayton (aka Klay Scott aka Scott Albert aka Celldweller) worked on it... he didn't do the Passafist one, though... that was a Wade Jaynes and David Perkins thing, i think...

    Dan

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    Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 20:59:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: G3 show Greg Howe Message-ID: <20020519035925.36661.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com>

    Well, I meant Greg Howe as the third G, so to speak. Like Petrucci was on this tour. Howe definitely doesn't lack in fusion chops!

    - Ilia.

    P.S. By the way, if no one else is going to respond to the best of DT survey, I'm going to post the results as they stand right now. Won't be too interesting, though - it only got about 15 respondents. So if anyone is still interested in answering, e-mail me for the questions. If not - I'll give it until Monday evening.

    --- Mauricio Martinez <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> wrote: > i thought it > would have been a great idea to let Tony Macalpine join his g3 > fellows on > the stage for the final jam. Ok, so, there was sometimes very > much guitar > wankering going on, but i wanted to hear some fusion chops > from tony.

    ==== Always use the word impossible with the greatest caution. --- Wernher Von Braun

    __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com

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    Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 00:09:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Craig Maloney <craig@ic.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Circle of Dust / Celldweller / Criss Angel / Angeldust - NY, NY Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205190009000.4013-100000@localhost.localdomain>

    On Sat, 18 May 2002, Daniel J. Temmesfeld wrote:

    > Chatterbox was the other band that you were probably thinking of... > Klayton (aka Klay Scott aka Scott Albert aka Celldweller) worked on > it... he didn't do the Passafist one, though... that was a Wade Jaynes > and David Perkins thing, i think...

    there was also his other project "Brainchild". He was also responsible for the first track of Prong's "Rude Awakening" album.

    talented fellow.

    -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig Maloney (craig@ic.net) http://ic.net/~craig There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. -- J.S. Bach

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    Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 01:22:31 -0800 From: "Ambassador Nelaskon" <moc_liam@mail.com> To: Ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: digest 6202 Message-ID: <20020519092231.23455.qmail@mail.com>

    Damn ... I tried to send it before, but it didn't go through.

    The one that got on digest 6203 was the second one I sent, which is why it said "I forgot to mention" and stuff... Oh well, here goes again :)

    >>>I was in Best Buy picking up the new Rush and saw a cd by a band called Deadsy for $6.99. I had heard a little about them so at seven bones, what the heck. They are kinka gothy/rocky/80's new-wavey which seem like a weird combination but it works for me. Also, interestingly and suprisingly they cover Rush's Tom Saywer. The main singer/songwriter is Elijah Blue, son of Cher and Greg Allman. A quick trip to www.deadsy.com found this:

    "..in my younger years I was pretty much just straight metal, and a little bit of industrial, new wave metal." The metal background is still present...but there are absolutely others -Bowie is a big influence for me, and King Crimson, Keith Emerson and '70s prog." <<<

    So how is it? What you've described actually sounds VERY good, except fot the concern that they might sound a little cheesy (I am critical of stuff done now that sounds too much like the early 70s) ... but Goth/New Wave/Metal sounds very intriguing.

    I like Evergrey and Lacuna Coil, but I haven't really heard the New Wave in there, unless you would say Royal Hunt does it a bit. All 3 great bands, RH "The Mission" being my CD of the Year 2001. :)

    >>> Hey:

    Understanding that this is a DT list, but with many Rush fans and, since I'm not gonna get my Vapor Trails CD 'til May 25 (I'm not in USA), will someone please post a review of this new album you lucky-before-no-one-and-enjoying-already-this-CD-listeners?

    Thanks.

    Colt <<<

    Heh, well it certainly takes a few listens to "get". The first time I heard it, it sounded decent, but nothing memorable. A lot like "My Favorite Headache" without the softer parts or keyboards. And a little drier like Counterparts, but moreso in those directions.

    So of course that means it's good, but the only thing that stuck in my mind at first was not any melodies or lines, just the overall noisy sound they got. So I listened to it again the same night, and it sounded better. I already knew what to expect, and I recognized a few of the tracks.

    Anyway, so I heard it again (again), and it's actually starting to sound pretty dang good by now. I think it's just the "noisy"-yet-complicated sound of it takes a few listens to really understand, if you know what I mean.

    So anyway, with most CDs I either think it's good, or not good, at 1st or second listen. This time, I was like "what?" at first ... and it's really growing on me. By now it is starting to become one of my favorites of theirs.

    I know this isn't a review, but hopefully you'll get something out of it. Maybe. :)

    >>> Heya.

    Why look, some creative soul made this cute little quiz. "Which Degree of Inner Turbulence Are You?"

    http://www.angelfire.com/goth/vanisher/turbulencequiz.html

    For the record, I was 2nd. pH33r me. <<<

    1st Degree here.

    Cyaron

    "Never stop dreaming, because your dreams will never die. When you forget how to dream, you forget how to live." - Max Verran

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