YTSEJAM Digest 6207
Today's Topics:
1) RE: Attack of the Clones
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
2) Re: Circle of Dust / Celldweller / Criss Angel / Angeldust
by "Ian Perge" <scarred2112@hotmail.com>
3) Re: Attack of the Clones
by Dan Temmesfeld <dtemm@yahoo.com>
4) RE: Attack of the Clones (perhaps a spoiler or two)
by Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
5) Argyle Park
by Dan Temmesfeld <dtemm@yahoo.com>
6) My part on Attack of the Clones *** hopefully no spoliers but who
by yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
7) Re: My part on Attack of the Clones *** hopefully no spoliers
by Marc Chadwick <wrath@webrealm.org>
8) Re: Circle of Dust / Celldweller / Criss Angel / Angeldust
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
9) Re: Argyle Park
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
10) oh, my brain hurts....
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
11) CD copy protection scheme over-written...
by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
12) Re: Circle of Dust / Celldweller / Criss Angel / Angeldust
by Dan Temmesfeld <dtemm@yahoo.com>
13) Hello all, been some time :)
by "Marcel Coenen" <marcel.coenen@sittard-geleen.nl>
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Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:50:07 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Attack of the Clones
Message-ID: <3CEB2BD450223743A4895C0D0C5DFC3AE0FFDE@haxlcsechp0.healthaxis.dom>
I did manage to take in a viewing Sunday afternoon. Excellent movie. Never
listen to critics again. The dialog didn't bother me, nor did the love
scenes. That part has to be built up. It was handled just fine. How about
that white uniform? ;)
Thumbs UP on Episode II.
JM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David or Tammy Landis [SMTP:tdlandis@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:22 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: RE: Attack of the Clones
>
> YES!!!!! Samuel L. Jackson has a PURPLE LIGHT SABER!!
>
> So does Samuel L. Jackson have a different colored saber ?
>
> JM
>
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Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:19:17 -0400
From: "Ian Perge" <scarred2112@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Circle of Dust / Celldweller / Criss Angel / Angeldust
Message-ID: <F54yBXmfiaGUNAlGVEC00002ee2@hotmail.com>
On Sunday May 19th Daniel Temmesfeld wrote:
>right-o... Circle of Dust "Brainchild" was the 2nd album... it was >also
>released as Brainchile "Mindwarp," but it was the same exact >album...
Actually, there *are* differences bewtween the Brainchild "Mindwarp" release
and the Circle of Dust "Brainchild" release. (Klay) Scott Albert remixed
and re-recorded parts of the album for the second release, specifically the
tracks "Deviate", "Telltale Crime", and "Prayers of a Dead Man." IMHO it's
most evident in "Deviate" - the structure of song is pretty different
between the two versions.
Scott worked and was good friends with my old drummer back in the day, so I
got to know him fairly well - he's a great guy, an extremely talanted
musician (he started out as a thrash drummer in the 80's before turning to
guitar and electronics) who never got the financial and critical success he
deserved. If you can find it, pick up the "Argyle Park" CD that was "his"
project under various pseudonyms - an album *years* ahead of its time.
~Ian
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Ian M. Perge
"An artless life is barely distinguishable from death"
IanPerge.com - "New domain name, same old crap."
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Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:21:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Temmesfeld <dtemm@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Attack of the Clones
Message-ID: <20020520162119.54523.qmail@web20703.mail.yahoo.com>
Souter, Jan-Michael wrote:
> I did manage to take in a viewing Sunday afternoon.
> Excellent movie. Never listen to critics again.
> The dialog didn't bother me, nor did the love
> scenes. That part has to be built up. It was
> handled just fine.
it was a good movie, far better than Episode I...
but the dialog was pretty bad. George Lucas has
*always* written bad dialog... look at the first
3 films, for a great example. but it doesn't ruin
the movie.
> How about that white uniform? ;)
yum. double yum.
Dan
np: sixpence none the richer - collage
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Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:24:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: RE: Attack of the Clones (perhaps a spoiler or two)
Message-ID: <20020520162411.74661.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com>
Yeah, I concur. Saw it Sunday evening. They brought back some
of the alien languages, so hopefully they'll do that more in
Episode III - I was most pleased with that aspect of the movie.
The acting wasn't really bad - it was more along the lines of a
bunch of actors going like "Oh shit, we gotta make a STAR WARS
film! What do we do?" They pulled it off quite well, all
things considered. The love scenes seemed awkward, just as they
would be if the characters were real - so I don't think that's
even a problem.
The cartoonishness of Episode I seemed to abate as well, which
is a welcome change. The scenes of Coruscant are incredible.
The references to Episodes IV-VI were very well placed,
including Kenobi saying "Anakin, you're going to be the death of
me." And, of course, the end sequence (all of it) was a real
treat. Everyone in the theater, including me and my party, were
applauding through the end credits.
What was most impressive is the plot development. I think Lucas
did an incredible job of developing the story that is to lead
into the original trilogy. Can't wait for Episode III, that's
going to be awesome. Never will I doubt Lucas again.
- Ilia.
--- "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> wrote:
> I did manage to take in a viewing Sunday afternoon. Excellent
> movie. Never
> listen to critics again. The dialog didn't bother me, nor did
> the love
> scenes. That part has to be built up. It was handled just
> fine. How about
> that white uniform? ;)
>
> Thumbs UP on Episode II.
>
> JM
>
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Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Temmesfeld <dtemm@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Argyle Park
Message-ID: <20020520165546.98501.qmail@web20709.mail.yahoo.com>
Ian Perge <scarred2112@hotmail.com> wrote:
> If you can find it, pick up the "Argyle Park" CD
> that was "his" project under various pseudonyms -
> an album *years* ahead of its time.
i agree that it was ahead of its time... but it
wasn't just him (Scott Albert)... it was more of a
collaboration between he, Buka, Deathwish, Dred,
Klank, Marc Soloman, the guys from Mortal/Fold
Zandura, etc...
i've met both Buka and Dred, and I know that they
aren't pseudonyms of Scott's... they're real people...
Argyle Park _Misguided_ is a great CD... the second
Argyle disc... under the moniker AP2 wasn't as good...
it's more of Buka and Dan Levler's project... i think
Celldweller (Scott) had some production credits on
a few songs, but he pretty much wasn't on it much...
ah, the mystery of Scott Albert.
Dan
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 00:19:15 +0200
From: yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
To: "'ytsejam mailing list'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: My part on Attack of the Clones *** hopefully no spoliers but who
Message-ID: <000a01c2004c$61b0b3c0$40a8003e@yallinmmd>
Hi all,
Since we're a music-related mailing list, I thought I'll point out a few
of the musically brilliant things I found out in Eps II:
1) First of all, John Williams is simply a genius. No doubt.
2) It is well-known that Star Wars has 3 main musical themes: the main
theme, the Empire theme (the most known one) and the Jedi theme (more
common in Return of the Jedi); throughout Eps II I caught glimpses of
those themes. What was really cool to me is that every time Anakin has
done something bad that leads him more towards the dark side, a little
bit of the Empire theme appears. At first, it was just a few notes, and
as the movie developed, the appearances became longer, and in the ending
sequence, the whole glory of the Empire theme bursts! I was near
tears...
May the force be with you :-)
shai
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Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:01:39 -0400
From: Marc Chadwick <wrath@webrealm.org>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: My part on Attack of the Clones *** hopefully no spoliers
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020520195933.039df958@localhost>
>What was really cool to me is that every time Anakin has
>done something bad that leads him more towards the dark side, a little
>bit of the Empire theme appears. At first, it was just a few notes, and
>as the movie developed, the appearances became longer, and in the ending
>sequence, the whole glory of the Empire theme bursts!
Yes, this was very cool. Lets not forget the Duel of Fates piece during the
speeder bike scene, though. Its a very symbolic thing as you can imagine
the mental turmoil throughout the ride. And this being just before a major
turning point was well placed.
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 00:32:23 +0000 (UTC)
From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Circle of Dust / Celldweller / Criss Angel / Angeldust
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0205210023370.9756-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>
On Mon, 20 May 2002, Ian Perge wrote:
> If you can find it, pick up the "Argyle Park" CD that was "his"
> project under various pseudonyms - an album *years* ahead of its time.
>
and if you can't get a hold of the entire CD, then i would recommend at
least trying to get find online the song "Misanthrope 5:33" from the
Argyle Park disc. probably one of, if not THE best song on the album.
oh yeah, and that "other" industrial band i was thinking of but couldn't
name: Global Wave System, and thier album "Life Equals Death". very
heavy, but very good. NOT Scott Albert related, though. Anyone else
who's familiar with Circle of Dust feel that his most complete & polished
work as C.o.D. was the 3rd & final album "Dissengage"?? absolutely
INCREDIBLE stuff. just my opinion though. anyone???
-eric
np.- Green Carnation "Light of Day, Day of Darkness"
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 00:39:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Argyle Park
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0205210034530.9756-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>
On Mon, 20 May 2002, Dan Temmesfeld wrote:
> i agree that it was ahead of its time... but it
> wasn't just him (Scott Albert)... it was more of a
> collaboration between he, Buka, Deathwish, Dred,
> Klank, Marc Soloman, the guys from Mortal/Fold
> Zandura, etc...
>
aahhhhhh, Mortal...... what a wonderful & ever-surprising band they were.
their best is a combination of both "Fathom" & "Pura" albums. both at
opposite ends of the spectrum of what Mortal accomplished, but both at the
top of their form. the stuff they did as Fold Zandura is decent, but just
isn't as top rate as Mortal. the F.Z. stuff holds up real well live (seen
`em twice), but not as grabbing as Mortal was. oh well, can't win them
all.
-eric
--
"The least important things in life
get the most appreciation.
The most important things in life
don't seem to get enough."
-me
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 01:06:16 +0000 (UTC)
From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: The `Jam <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: oh, my brain hurts....
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0205210101001.12032-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>
holy shit, i just got done listening to Green Carnation's "Light of Day,
Day of Darkness". my brain feels like it's going to pop. boy, that was a
LOT of stuff to digest all at once. i'll give a better review after i
give it a few more listens. since this was only my first though, i need
to experience it a few more times before an honest opinion can be given.
where's the advil???
-eric
np.- "Pentathalon" by On The Virg (Virgil Donati's gig) odd choice for
someone who's just been through a 1-hour mindscrew, but i'm a glutton for
punishment i suppose.
--
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get the most appreciation.
The most important things in life
don't seem to get enough."
-me
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Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 22:52:10 -0700
From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: CD copy protection scheme over-written...
Message-ID: <B90F2E9A.3D7E%schansen@cts.com>
Someone posted this on Mike Portnoy's message board - thought you all might
apprciate it - dunno if it will work with the copies of 6DoIT that some of
you have that seem to have that copy protection, but it's worth a shot.
http://webcenter.newssearch.netscape.com/aolns_display.adp?key 02052013080
00270271_aolns.src
Scott
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 03:16:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Temmesfeld <dtemm@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Circle of Dust / Celldweller / Criss Angel / Angeldust
Message-ID: <20020521101609.43514.qmail@web20707.mail.yahoo.com>
Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> Anyone else who's familiar with Circle of Dust
> feel that his most complete & polished work as
> C.o.D. was the 3rd & final album "Dissengage"??
yep... that was his defining moment. great album.
i rarely pick up the others one due to Disengage
being so phenomenal...
Dan
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 13:50:14 +0200
From: "Marcel Coenen" <marcel.coenen@sittard-geleen.nl>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Hello all, been some time :)
Message-ID: <scea50b5.092@gelgw01>
Hello peeps,
whew it has been some time since I posted I guess.
I really don't have a clue who is still on this list as of today, but I guess some people here will know me, I've been a jammer since 1996, and I guess some people will know my previous band Lemur Voice or my current band Sun Caged.
Anyway, just wanted to say hello to ya all, feel free to check out my site to know more: http://www.marcelcoenen.com or my band's site: http://www.suncaged.com .
Greetz
Marcel
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