YTSEJAM Digest 6210
Today's Topics:
1) RE: john williams
by yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
2) Re: Welcome back...
by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
3) new Mike Portnoy side project
by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
4) Sloppy Scenes Scenario
by pervin@digital.net (Edward Pervin)
5) Re: new Mike Portnoy side project
by "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" <calfaro@yunque.net>
6) RE: Sloppy Scenes Scenario
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
7) RE: Sloppy Scenes Scenario
by "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
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Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 19:09:41 +0200
From: yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: RE: john williams
Message-ID: <000301c2027c$a1aa5490$78ae003e@yallinmmd>
Actually I didn't notice it at all...
I will now stand in the corner and be ashamed of myself.
Anyway, when I read Chris' post, I automatically thought of Prokofiev's
"Peter and the Wolf", a children's composition where every character has
its own instrument and there's a "Peter" theme, a "Wolf" theme and so
on...
I bet Williams was into that piece when he wrote the score for Star
Wars...
-----Original Message-----
From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On Behalf Of
Chris Elder
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:26 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: john williams
Oh yeah. Actually, each main character has their own themes.
Luke = french horn.
Leia = flutes & Clarinets
Darth Vader = Brass
Yoda = a good mix of everything, he is wise and encompassing everything
Jabba the Hutt = Tuba Ewoks = Strings, flutes & clarinets Emperor
Strings, tympani & chorus
Watch the movies again, and listen closely. Everytime each character is
on screen there is an instrument representing them. It is quite
amazing, how you think you are listening to one piece of music, but if
you listen close you are hearing something a little different.
Lucas wants to go back and redo the music for Star Wars, to add more of
these themes, that may have come later in the series. Like "the
Imperial March" was from Empire, but he wants to go back and add it to
the opening of Star Wars when Vader makes his grand entrance. (he's
even filmed more scenes to add to the Special, Special Edition with
Jimmy Smits as Bail
Organa)
John Williams is a genius.(minus the slump between Jurassic Park and
Episode
1) You can't hit a homerun every time. ;)
-chris
>
> Now I've got to go see the movie again. I didn't even realize the
musical
> themes in the background. That's cool. First time to see the movie
I was
> more visual-oriented. But seeing it again I can pay more attention to
> the music. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 14:30:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Welcome back...
Message-ID: <m17AxMF-000K3QC@mail.interzone.com>
>
>whew it has been some time since I posted I guess.
>
>I really don't have a clue who is still on this list as of today, but
>I guess some people here will know me, I've been a jammer since 1996,
>and I guess some people will know my previous band Lemur Voice or my
>current band Sun Caged.
>
>Anyway, just wanted to say hello to ya all, feel free to check out
>my site to know more: http://www.marcelcoenen.com or my band's site:
>http://www.suncaged.com .
>
>Marcel
>
Wooo! Good to hear from you Marcel! :-) Do you expect to
have another Sun Caged CD out soon? Are you selling your CDs
exclusively through your web site?
Steve
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Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 19:32:58 -0700
From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: new Mike Portnoy side project
Message-ID: <B912F46A.3DBE%schansen@cts.com>
I didn't get the chance to be a part of the chat Mike Portnoy did at his
chatroom this evening, but one of the moderators will be posting a
transcript of the interview shortly. Here's the gist of the info on the new
side-project:
Mike just confirmed via chat:
New project:
Jim Matheos- Fates Warning
MP
Daniel G- POS
Kevin Moore!!!!!
Sean Malone- Gordian Knot.
Other project news:
Steve Lukather
Zakk Wylde
AlDiMeola
Jonathan Mover
Tim Alexander
Stu Hamm
Steve Vai
More news to come!
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Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 23:08:45 -0400
From: pervin@digital.net (Edward Pervin)
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Sloppy Scenes Scenario
Message-ID: <v01530509b91300760a76@[216.97.200.242]>
I bought the "Scenes From New York" DVD a few weeks ago. It's a great
concert, and the musicianship is astounding, but I need to ask seriously...
Do Dream Theater fans put up with the gaping holes in the plot of Scenes
for the sake of the music? Or do you just pretend the holes aren't there?
"They continued to investigate!" shrieks LaBrie, but who were these
investigators, the Three Stooges? Moe didn't notice that the "killer" and
the "witness" just happened to be brothers. Larry didn't check to see
whose handwriting the "suicide letter" was written in. Curly didn't bother
to examine the fingerprints on the gun. And Shemp thought it was
completely reasonable for a person to commit suicide by shooting himself
twice in the chest.
Don't get me wrong, the musicianship really was shockingly good. High
points for me included "Home" with Rudess playing the "sitar" parts on
keyboards, and, of course, the tracks with Theresa Thomason.
But that plot... The plot doesn't have holes, it IS a hole.
So what do you hardcore DT fans really think about the SFaM "story"? Is
it just a way of setting a mood, like the "story" in Marillion's Brave, or
Genesis's Lamb? Or have you tricked yourselves into pretending the "story"
makes sense? I'm just curious.
P.S. How do I navigate to the "full length audio commentary by the band"?
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 00:54:15 -0500
From: "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" <calfaro@yunque.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: new Mike Portnoy side project
Message-ID: <001001c202e7$71489bc0$09f958d1@carlosbook>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Hansen" <schansen@cts.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 9:49 PM
Subject: new Mike Portnoy side project
> I didn't get the chance to be a part of the chat Mike Portnoy did at his
> chatroom this evening, but one of the moderators will be posting a
> transcript of the interview shortly. Here's the gist of the info on the
new
> side-project:
>
>
> Mike just confirmed via chat:
>
> New project:
>
> Jim Matheos- Fates Warning
> MP
> Daniel G- POS
> Kevin Moore!!!!!
> Sean Malone- Gordian Knot.
>
>
>
PLEASE TELL ME YOURE NOT SHITTING ME PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!
DANIEL GILDENLOW AND KEVIN MOORE!????????
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 07:54:25 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Sloppy Scenes Scenario
Message-ID: <3CEB2BD450223743A4895C0D0C5DFC3AE1011B@haxlcsechp0.healthaxis.dom>
You are forgetting the story took place around 1928. The police weren't
that advanced back then. And this really didn't happen, by the way... it's
a story they made up and are telling. Does that even have to be said ?
Later..
JM
-----Original Message-----
> From: pervin@digital.net [SMTP:pervin@digital.net]
>
> I bought the "Scenes From New York" DVD a few weeks ago. It's a great
> concert, and the musicianship is astounding, but I need to ask
> seriously...
> Do Dream Theater fans put up with the gaping holes in the plot of Scenes
> for the sake of the music? Or do you just pretend the holes aren't there?
>
> "They continued to investigate!" shrieks LaBrie, but who were these
> investigators, the Three Stooges? Moe didn't notice that the "killer" and
> the "witness" just happened to be brothers. Larry didn't check to see
> whose handwriting the "suicide letter" was written in. Curly didn't
> bother
> to examine the fingerprints on the gun. And Shemp thought it was
> completely reasonable for a person to commit suicide by shooting himself
> twice in the chest.
>
> Don't get me wrong, the musicianship really was shockingly good. High
> points for me included "Home" with Rudess playing the "sitar" parts on
> keyboards, and, of course, the tracks with Theresa Thomason.
> But that plot... The plot doesn't have holes, it IS a hole.
> So what do you hardcore DT fans really think about the SFaM "story"? Is
> it just a way of setting a mood, like the "story" in Marillion's Brave, or
> Genesis's Lamb? Or have you tricked yourselves into pretending the
> "story"
> makes sense? I'm just curious.
>
> P.S. How do I navigate to the "full length audio commentary by the
> band"?
>
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 08:40:48 -0500
From: "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Sloppy Scenes Scenario
Message-ID: <029f01c20328$9cee8e10$3864a8c0@klindt.org>
I thought some of the things the original poster did when I first heard
the CD and read the story. To say, "It's just made up, live with it"
seems a bit too easy. I mean, how many times have you watched a TV show
or a movie that was fiction and the story did something so completely
ridiculous that couldn't let it go? It's just made up, why does it
matter? I guess when I read (or watch) a story, I wish for it to make
sense. Some parts of SFAM just don't.
Great CD though. Home is one of my favorite DT songs ever.
tk
-----Original Message-----
From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On Behalf Of
Souter, Jan-Michael
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 7:56 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: RE: Sloppy Scenes Scenario
You are forgetting the story took place around 1928. The police weren't
that advanced back then. And this really didn't happen, by the way...
it's a story they made up and are telling. Does that even have to be
said ? Later..
JM
-----Original Message-----
> From: pervin@digital.net [SMTP:pervin@digital.net]
>
> I bought the "Scenes From New York" DVD a few weeks ago. It's a
> great concert, and the musicianship is astounding, but I need to ask
> seriously...
> Do Dream Theater fans put up with the gaping holes in the plot of
> Scenes for the sake of the music? Or do you just pretend the holes
> aren't there?
>
> "They continued to investigate!" shrieks LaBrie, but who were these
> investigators, the Three Stooges? Moe didn't notice that the "killer"
> and the "witness" just happened to be brothers. Larry didn't check to
> see whose handwriting the "suicide letter" was written in. Curly
> didn't bother to examine the fingerprints on the gun. And Shemp
> thought it was completely reasonable for a person to commit suicide by
> shooting himself twice in the chest.
>
> Don't get me wrong, the musicianship really was shockingly good.
> High points for me included "Home" with Rudess playing the "sitar"
> parts on keyboards, and, of course, the tracks with Theresa Thomason.
> But that plot... The plot doesn't have holes, it IS a hole.
> So what do you hardcore DT fans really think about the SFaM "story"?
> Is it just a way of setting a mood, like the "story" in Marillion's
> Brave, or Genesis's Lamb? Or have you tricked yourselves into
> pretending the "story" makes sense? I'm just curious.
>
> P.S. How do I navigate to the "full length audio commentary by the
> band"?
>
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